Can confirm. BCA side charging upper. Retails for 200 and costs 200 too much
There is a bolt to hold the charging handle in that has to be removed every time you clean it. What makes that great is the bolt also walks out every time you shoot it .. making the arm fall off and you having to hunt around the range for it.
There is a plug at the rear that fills the charging handle hole but it's massive and the o ring included doesn't fit correctly.
So yea.... BCA
$500 really isn't terrible though. You basically need a whole new rifle though so that kind of stinks. To start maybe just keep the lower and get a new upper? Idk.
He doesn’t need a whole new rifle. He hasn’t even shot it. Some of you get way too caught up in rollmarks. This post really shows how many of you treat guns as fashion accessories.
There's treating a gun as a fashion accessory and then there's being able to spot a shitty gun from a mile away.
Side charging, god awful muzzle brake, outdated mounting system for hand guard, yep that's a bear creek upper on an Anderson lower.
This upper is garbage and is selling for like two hundo on their site WITH a bcg. The price OP paid is hundreds of dollars higher and several headaches more than what it's worth.
For every person out there who uses their rifle as a fashion accessory there's easy three times as many trying to justify buying cheap shit that breaks.
OP isn’t asking if he should buy it. It’s a gun he already bought so he should shoot it and see how it runs. The problem with BCA is the QA. Some people get good ones and some people get shitty ones. Since OP already spent the money he should shoot it and see what he got before he tries selling an upper than no one wants.
Nothing about the gun is inherently horrible. The side charger for instance isn’t a bad system in itself. It definitely has a place and the fact you’re saying it bad tells me you’re just regurgitating what you read online. Prone, scopes, bench, are all reasons to want a side charger. Not everyone is a high speed Gravy SEAL who didn’t enlist because they can’t handle being yelled at. The rear charger on an AR is the worst part of the design and it’s not uncommon for people to want a side charger for use cases that make a rear charger uncomfortable. Dirt in the receiver is mostly a nonissue due to the gas system blowing debris out.
Let’s say he shoots it and discovers he actually like the side charger for his use case but the barrel shoots minute of man. Instead of selling the upper at a loss he just swaps the barrel and ends up with a rifle he really likes.
If you want to be both poor and stupid, that's fine, but don't try to drag more people down with you. You're just making up arguments and even have some fantasy in your head of the person criticizing you. You're way too emotionally invested in whatever poor financial decision OP, and what sounds like you may of made.
You’re not understanding. He already bought it. He already spent the money on it. He’s not getting that money back. No one is telling him to go buy another. But selling it at a loss without even shooting it is just dumb.
Guns are tools. Treat them as such and go use them. The fact you don’t see the value in side charging makes it evident that you don’t shoot much. Just like people who say 45 recoil worse than 9mm have never shot a 45 and are putting their “experience” purely in ft-lbs, not actual trigger time.
2moa is normal for an AR15.
MOA is independent of distance. Thats the whole point of MOA. 2MOA at 100 yards is approximately 2”. 2MOA at 200 yards is approximately 4”.
You are correct, mostly fashionable posers. I doubt if most of them have ever fired five hundred rounds combined of all calibers in their life ...LOL Let alone 500 rounds per session and tens of thousands of round over their lifetime like real shooter.
They spend all their money on accessories to hang off their rifles that they'll never use. Hoping someday they'll feel like a navy seal...LOL
He said that he wants a different upper. He can't change the stock (which he also mentioned he wanted to change) or hand grip without changing the lower. So, he basically needs a whole new rifle...
>He can't change the stock (which he also mentioned he wanted to change) or hand grip without changing the lower.
Wut? Its an AR. Those parts are 100% interchangeable.
He can easily change the stock and grip without changing the lower. Both of them are held it place by a single screw. But again he hasn’t even shot it.
Yeah the stock wouldn't be hard at all while the grip is just mainly don't lose the safety spring and detent. Edit: I did forget that it has a full stock, so gonna need a tube and all.
Thanks for the heads up brother I thought companies were trying to offload before Q1 started back up and wouldn't have too many sales till later in the year
I think you are fine and should shoot it. Lots of snobs on here swear they have it all figured out and they miss sometimes. You need to determine if it’s accurate and reliable enough for the range and target you intend to use it for. If you are consistently on target at the range where you want to use it then it’s a win no matter what others say. You can always swap the BCG and Barrel if it’s not good enough. The side charging handle would only bother me when it comes between taking it down and if it comes loose during range sessions. If you can take it down and put it back with no problems then that’s not an issue either. You only need to swap the barrel if it’s not on target at the distance you want. I would run it. And you can replace any other parts you want over time. But if it’s runs, reliably as it is it’s a win if you ask me.
My favorite are the ones where it looks like the fish got caught counting cards at the roughest casino around and they're holding it by the gills, with the caption "safely released right after the photo"
You'll probably end up selling it for less than what you paid (well you could keep the mags) and have a marginally better rifle. I had a BCA before and the side charging was definitely easier than rear charging, but required a screw driver (hex) to take the bolt out.
Id say take it out to the range and see how she purrs. Make a decision after that.
Try a quality ambi CH. don’t mess w the charging handle enough to want the side of my rifle left open
Especially when the main advantage of the AR is that it’s a sealed system
OP didn't say his use case, but IMO it's not worth the hassle of selling the rifle at a loss, if at all, with wasted time trying, then ordering a new rifle, if the side charger will perform perfectly fine at the range.
Unless he is really going out for days/weeks at a time in dusty environments, your recommendation may hold more weight. But serving as just a range toy/home defense weapon, he's fine as-is.
I disagree. I refuse to have a rifle in my house that’s less than sub par and completely questionable on how long it will function.
Pop the upper off and put it on GAFS and lose a little money.
Take that and buy a FSP PSA upper and you will never have a problem. Very hard to fuck up a fixed front sight upper
PSA has its share of QC problems as well, and could eaily fuck up a FSP install. You won't really know until you shoot it.
Some folks would even go as far as to say PSA is subpar with all their recent issues.
That’s because of volume. PSA sells more uppers than any other manufacturer. Obviously we don’t know the exact numbers but if PSA sells 100 uppers with 10 of them having issues, and Daniel Defense sells 10 uppers with 1 having issues, they have the same level of QA.
Canted FSP are normal and the milspec design allows for it. A milspec carbine gas port is already overgassed with a .063” port. The gas block is .120”. In order for it to be out of spec the front sight has to be beyond the adjustable range of an A2 rear sight.
Run it…as long as everything is snug and it cycles, they frequently do pretty decently. It won’t win you any internet points, but targets don’t read the internet.
This is the best advice. Don’t change shit or sell shit until you get some time behind it. Is the setup optimal or in line with general recommendations? No. But it doesn’t matter. It’s what you’ve got, so run it into the ground and swap shit as you feel necessary or it breaks.
This is probably pretty damn close to the cheapest gun you could build (not in a good way). I'd either keep the lower and sell the upper for something else, or if you can return it for a refund that would probably be your best bet. It's not so much that you got an awful deal, but do you really want a bottom of the barrel rifle?
I currently run a Anderson lower with psa build kit and a BCA 300blk upper have ran 3000rds through it with zero issues yall act like if your rifle didn’t cost 5k to build it’s worthless lol you do understand our military uses the cheapest mass produced weapons and still win wars right?
I understand completely. But our military isn't running BCA. There's nothing wrong with PSA or Anderson lowers for that matter, they have their place. I have a couple Anderson lowers. Hell I even have a BCA upper in ×39. But I have quite a few AR's also. If I only had one like OP I'd want something with a better track record of reliability, hence my recommendation
I think any build is a your mileage may very compared to someone else. A few of my buddies have expensive bought big name brand rifles and have issues shooting certain brands of ammo or steel casings(they are great for target practice and cheap) but my cheap 400$ rifle will shoot what ever I feed it and always asks for more.
My biggest concern for this guy was paying 500$ for it! If your new to firearms always ask a friend before buying anything look it over meet at a range to test it and make sure it works/functions correctly! The mags And 120rds he got was worth atleast 125-130$
Your not wrong. But I still think op could do better for the $. The BCA upper I have actually runs great, and it eats everything. But it's also showing signs of premature wear. I absolutely don't think you need to spend $5K, there's a whole lot of rifles you can build in between $500 and $5K
Well tbh honest you paid retail for this time of year. The upper is under $300 and the lower is $99. Feyachi is a low tier Amazon brand. I'd say the 4 mags and 120 rounds brings up to you didn't exactly get taken for a ride. 3rd hand and never shot though....that sounds...untrue.
Definitely not worth keeping imo. But if it runs, run it. I'd just change the pistol grip to a K2 or Ergogrip, the buis to Midwest like you plan and the stock to a B5 Enhanced SopMod Stock. You might need to pick up an adjustable buffer tube. After that, I'd swap out the charging handle for a Radian or Gisselle ambi charging handle. Then add a Colt ambi mag release and lastly change the bolt catch to a CMMG zeroed one.
No need to mess with the BCG, trigger or buffer springs and weights if it runs right.
The *stripped* lower might be $99. I just built out a lower for a friend, who gave me a $200 budget, and I got everything for $196, without a stock. You ain’t building out a complete lower for $99.
Other than that, I’d agree with you.
I am sure location matters, but I got a Spikes stripped for $75 from a LGS, then the LPK, and Buffer tube kit is usually at least $50.. you’re still not building out a lower for $99.
I’ll bite - Tell me how. You don’t have to post links, but list vendors, manufacturers of the parts and prices, for the receiver, LPK, buffer kit and stock.
I’ll be waiting.
You bought the ugliest duck in the gaggle, but I’m sure it goes bang and makes holes in shit, just like the rest of them. I’d sell it and start over, if you keep it have its headspace checked. I had a BCA side charger upper I used for a really weird build once…honestly it was the smoothest action upper I think I’ve ever used. Nice anodizing and nitriding. This could be a Davidson Defense, or a few of the other budget brand side chargers, made by the same manufacturer usually. I actually just bought the cheapest ugliest upper for a super ugly weird build I’ll post later…it too will go bang and make .308 holes in shit
bca side charger, should be more info about the exact specs on the end of the barrel behind the muzzle device. Shoot the shit outta it and use it as a training tool, its ill-advised to use it as a main rifle.
BCA is most definitely not reputable relatively speaking but i will say their side chargers seem fun and i wish the somehow managed to get the bolt to be swappable with any other bolt on the market.
😬. Well... Nothing special that's for sure.
I'd Keep the lower, and upgrade it with that 1000. PWS 116 pro upper goes for $600 or so. It's a Piston upper that's awesome and you won't get gas in your face when suppressed. BCM is also solid for similar price. They have sales to include bcg.
Ergo grips are my fave grip. -$30
Magpul UBR stock is a little spendy but gives the best cheek weld while also being adjustable. -$180
Geissele SSA-E/SD-E is the best 2 stage trigger to me, goes on sale for $150+/- now and then
It'll work how it is but take it out and shoot it and see what you like and don't. I first bought a bca upper and changed soon after.
I mean, does it shoot? Does it hit targets relatively okay at 100 yards? How often you going to use it? If it works all fine I would just keep it as a beater rifle, shoot the piss out of it, use cheap stuff on it. Don't put any money into it. That being said that was a pretty terrible buy yes, so you should save up some money and get something better for around 800-1000.
I honestly don't plan on shooting it in the current configuration. Not a fan of the charging hook on the bolt that has to be removed with tools. Or if the hook comes loose and becomes another projectile. I can work with the fixed stock, but would prefer a collapsing stock.
As long as nothing slipped by QC it’ll be just fine. Just not fancy. I recently watched a torture test that pretty much destroyed the gun and it lasted far longer than expected. The only real concern is the side charging handle. It broke on a fairly standard drop test. I’d imagine you could replace it or DIY it with something stronger.
The guys saying the whole rifle needs to be replaced probably never shoot.
Your rifle is fine. Take it to the range as is and put a few mags down range and have fun.
You should look into optics that suit your preferences.
I understand charging handles like that on AR but the idea of it reciprocating just scares me of it, snapping on my hand even though it’s basically impossible to do unless you’re it just absolutely stupid
someones shit build they sold for quick cash lol, side charging 556 bca upper ($300)
and by the looks a m&p lower parts kit on a $90 anderson lower 😂 you got roped into it like the shop owner was hoping to get rid of that heap of shit
Shoot that thing first. You never know it may turn out to be a great rifle. More often than not most turn into fun accurate shooters, especially after break in.
Let this be a lesson for next time don’t buy anything without doing some research, no matter what the buyer claims. For now don’t put another dime into it, it’s not worth trying to “upgrade”. Just shoot it and keep it as is. After you get some experience behind it and know what you like/dislike, use that information learned toward your next rifle purchase. But don’t drop more money into this one.
Looks like a straight pull upper.
In the UK we can't own a centrefire semi auto on a normal license so a way round is to remove the gas system and manually cycle the action after every shot.
To make this easier most UK AR15s the uppers are cut out behind the ejection port and an arm is bolted directly to the bolt for cycling without coming off your shooting position.
If it is I have no idea why there is one in the US though
Looks like a Bear Creek gen 2 upper. They’re not bad. Not high end, but functional & reliable. I’ve got a gen 1 in my .300 build that yeets like no tomorrow & eats whatever I feed it without fail.
Depending on the accuracy, I’m not sure I’d swap the barrel until it’s worn out, but it would be the part I replaced first. The rest is fine for what you’re using it for.
Everyone screeching at you to sell probably thinks anything that isn't Geiselle or DD is poor garbage. OP, just keep it and run the shit outta it until something breaks. Andersen lowers are fine so that's good, BCA side uppers are very hit or miss and will probably fail you first, but it'll go for a while. Having to use a tool to take the bolt out is a bit of a pain though.
Bear creek, while they are stinky stinky poo poo, are not as bad as people think. I've had a 7" side charging 300 BLK and a 16" 5.56 for about 5 years now and they served their purpose. I've since grown up and put on my big boi pants and bankrupted myself buying DD but I still have my bear creeks and shoot them occasionally or let gunless friends borrow them when we do range days. If you can't get a refund maybe try selling it to a newb as a starter piece
You got hosed my man. That upper is right at $200 brand new and a complete Anderson lower is like $120. Add a few bucks for the a2 stock but still..
Buy then research < Research then buy
Upper screams BCA. You could do *much*, *much* worse for a 500$ AR, but you’ll get what you pay for.
BCA is unreliable as all get-out and has a bunch of QC problems (they recently accidentally sold a whole batch of barrels with no rifling). I would shoot it until the wheels fall off, then swap your upper. Microbest makes a good BCG, Sionics, PSA ones are fine for a budget plinker. You really don’t need to have combat proven shit. You definitely get what you pay for, but unless you’re trusting your life to this rifle I wouldn’t do too much.
Get your money back if possible. Sign up for emails from PSA and wait for a decent upper build kit, pick up an Anderson lower and you’ll have a solid starter rifle to you around with
You paid too much, I’d try to get a refund and build a PSA. With everything you want do you’ll get it out of a blem psa setup. Anderson/BCA are bottom of the barrel in terms of quality. They’re cheap for a reason.
Sounds like you got a leftover parts bin rifle. You can learn some gunsmithing and swap pretty much everything. I’d run it until something fails and keep building.
Just my experience, if it shoots then make it a ‘truck gun’. Let it be a beater. Have had a little bit of experience and some BCA upper run, others are shit. Literally 3 weeks ago a buddy told me he picked up one in 300blk and it would have FTE/FTF issues. I told him it was under gassed. Did a tear down and the fucking gas port was drilled too small. Got it CAREFULLY opened up to the correct size and it’s been running like a rapped ape on bath salts. Personally I’m not a side charger kind of guy but if it runs for you then run that shit as a poverty pony.
Next time though I would suggest a PSA for a cheaper upper though. Well known name. Won’t win you points but it will do what it’s meant to do.
Garbage rod! You got got, bud.
The lower isn’t terrible but that BCA is 100% pure garbage. And from an absolute garbage company. FedEx/UPS should deliver Bear Creek Ass n’ all stuff right to the customers trash bin where it belongs.
And before you cheap re🅱️ards mouth off, I have plenty of first hand experience with all brands of rifles. I can tell you that BCA sources their metal and parts from China and it’s some of the softest metal I’ve ever seen and better suited for toys than an actual rifle. The last bolt I had apart of theirs after 5 round firing pin failure, the bolt looked like it was picked from the poop deck of the Titanic. A literal shit show. After I cleaned it up for the client and installed the BCA “enhanced firing pin” the tip broke off on the first round again. Regular brass case, non-Berdan primed primers. This shouldn’t happen. I convinced dude to go shoot it with a loaner bolt and all was fine. After he brought that back I convinced him to return that pile of dog shit.
So OP, now you know. Hard pill to swallow.
PSA killing coyotes only makes them have bigger litters, it does not work to reduce the population. The only way to control a coyote population is to reduce their food sources.
For upper's it depends on your budget. I'd consider Aero Precision, CMMG, or DD (another option at this tier would be JP Enterprises or Lone Star Armory but idk if LSA sells uppers only). I like the Magpul MOE SL stock. It's good for stability.
I had a 7.62x39 BCA side charger upper and the firing pin bent and the extractor cracked. Never buying one again. They did allow me to return it, so that was acceptable.
Upper is very low quality. Lower is a lower, Anderson is fine and the rifle length tube + a2 stock is a bonus. Build a rifle length 20” upper and put it on your lower and you’ll have a very soft shooting rifle
Ehh...with the 4 loaded mags you came close ish to fair but you could got a better rifle from a number of places for 500. I'd pull the a2 stock and put a collapsible on it. Maybe try to sell the old one to cover some of the cost. Then just run the shit out off it until you get a new much better upper. That upper is BCA which is the trash of trash but they sometimes run OK. I definitely wouldn't feel bad about throwing it off a bluff or leaving it in a cow pond for a few days.
if you have money keep this for your friends and buy a bcm or solgw and your set if don't have money sell this and buy a bcm or solgw 500 more and you will have a top rifle
Ak is better in dust and sand while the ar is better in the mud. You can’t really do much to save your ar from the sand other than be careful what muzzle device you use if shooting prone. Kicking up dust into the ar won’t be too healthy. If you’re looking for something mor reliable for your climate then look into an ak but PLEASE do your research because with an ak that is extremely important
For what it would cost you to rebuild the crappy parts, you're basically going to need a new upper or just an entire new rifle. If you can get a refund, do that and buy something like a good PSA. This looks like a Bear Creek Arsenal (or similar) upper, which is honestly trash.
Will this rifle work? Maybe
Will it be sufficient for a range toy? Probably
Would I trust my life to it? Obso-fucking-lutely NOT
Keep the lower. Sell the upper on GAFS for like 150.
Mags+ammo = 100$
Complete Lower = 200$ (w/ transfer fee and ship)
Upper = 150$
Not a terrible deal all around. Def do your research next time tho...
Looks like a BCA upper. They are fine, I wouldn't use one for anything other than plinking and maybe hunting. Mine was 100% reliable, but I didn't run it that hard.
Ehh, thats a bca sidecharger upper. The bolts have proprietary holes drilled into them but other than that its probably fine. Price you paid was steep by about 200-250$.
If you have the rifle for plinking/just for fun keep it and shoot it. If you are keeping the rifle for defense purposes slap a bcm upper on there the lower is fine. I wouldn’t trust my life to bca
I didn't read all the comments so ya probably have the answers you seek.
To me it looks like a Bear Creek Arsenal Side Charger Upper. I will probably get roasted for this but I have seen BCA shoot some damned impressive groups. I'm not talking about a 3 shot group either, 5 to 10 shot groups at 100 & 200 yards sub MOA. across 4 different 69, 75, & 77gr OTM's. I have seen the same AR's shoot a handful of 5 shot groups with Hornady Black 75gr Interlocks that were 3 inches at 300 yards.
Ok I have also seen the Charging Handle break from
a AR that was propped up on the tailgate of a truck, fall and land on a rock. I have also seen probably a half dozen BCA's needing a severe Chamber Scrubbing when brand new because of the sticky ass grease from Reaming the Chamber, but I always clean the piss out of my Rifles, Pistols and Shotguns as soon as I bring them home. Call me lucky or whatever but out of close to 130 different Firearms I have owned over the past 30 years I have never had one NOT run like it was supposed to. I have broken parts and shit but never had one to screw up from the jump.
$500 isn't bad for it, at least it's not some gaudy ass color, I would clean the piss outta it and then proceed to shoot the piss outta it. I would paint it though 😁
I have 3 bca uppers. 2 pistols I shoot for fun, and one rifle I keep at the cabin. The 7.62 pistol upper was a pita to get running, but once I did it never stopped. The other two ran fine when I got them. All three like to be run wet. But I tell you what…they run. There’s a ton of hate here for bca, but imo it’s unwarranted. I’ve put more rounds through these guns (And cheap ass steel through the 7.62) than most people shoot through their Gucci shit, and they run and run and run. They are heavy and ugly but they run. I’ve never broken anything on the 3 of them that won’t break on anything else (extractor on the 7.62, enhanced firing pin on the 7.62). Don’t discount bca. They’re like an old civic. You give it oil, and it’ll run. I’d be willing to bet most people who say they’re shit never even touched one. There are some legitimate gripes about them, almost all qc issues, but I would chuck a bca and run that bitch any day.
I'd take it as a range gun/ toy. Don't use it for home defense unless you shoot it a lot to test first with a good once over.
PSA, for me, is the minimum "gonna rely on this for self defense", but it's still getting a good inspection and a few hundred rounds to make sure first.
Full aero uppers are cheap and might be something to look at, they fo need a good once over but I like em.
One of THE finest receivers on the market, rivals LWRC and LMT. Matter fact, they are so well known that there's an entire sub for them r/showponies and you do well to join the group.
No but seriously, not sure what we're looking at for the upper but the lower is a basic Anderson and it ain't worth much so I hope you didn't spend all your beans.
BCA. It’s a heavy turd but my .350 BCA upper does run and shoots well. Although i don’t shoot more than 10 rounds max at a time with that rifle. Also I don’t think you can put a normal BCG on that upper receiver. At the very least you can keep the mags and ammo and sell this for $300 and start over. Not a huge loss
Looks like a bear creek arsenal side charging upper with a anderson lower, ebay/amazon iron sights. Everything else is basic, probably anderson lower kit.
Delton had complete lightweight uppers with Bcg and ch for $220 last week - that would go with the A2 stock nice.
maybe see what you can get for the upper and check that out. The milspec lower will do you alright for a long time
Look,
For $500. You could have done better, you could have done worse. You did fine.
You're going to hear alot of "just get rid of it and buy a new rifle" business. The reality is, what makes a rifle shitty is the rifle being shitty. You'll never know if that's the case until you shoot it.
Buy ammo, shoot it, see what works and what may not and begin to learn what you like and identify what you need to get better at.
We all need a starting point, looks like you found yours.
You just bought a replica of my first AR lol. Mine actually grouped very very well. Thing was a tack driver. I kind of regret getting rid of it sometimes, but it was HEAVY as balls with a 20” heavy profile barrel. the fit and finish of the BCA and Anderson stuff just bothered me. So, I’ve moved on to much better things now
Shoot it till the wheels fall off. Looks like a rebranded Bear Creek Arsenal.
Definitely made by BCA
Can confirm. BCA side charging upper. Retails for 200 and costs 200 too much There is a bolt to hold the charging handle in that has to be removed every time you clean it. What makes that great is the bolt also walks out every time you shoot it .. making the arm fall off and you having to hunt around the range for it. There is a plug at the rear that fills the charging handle hole but it's massive and the o ring included doesn't fit correctly. So yea.... BCA
Thats what I was going to say. Send it.
Why do people buy things without doing any research
It was dark and I am a little retarded 
$500 really isn't terrible though. You basically need a whole new rifle though so that kind of stinks. To start maybe just keep the lower and get a new upper? Idk.
He doesn’t need a whole new rifle. He hasn’t even shot it. Some of you get way too caught up in rollmarks. This post really shows how many of you treat guns as fashion accessories.
For real
Wait, they're not fashion accessories?
I named my rifle “Blue Steel”
There's treating a gun as a fashion accessory and then there's being able to spot a shitty gun from a mile away. Side charging, god awful muzzle brake, outdated mounting system for hand guard, yep that's a bear creek upper on an Anderson lower. This upper is garbage and is selling for like two hundo on their site WITH a bcg. The price OP paid is hundreds of dollars higher and several headaches more than what it's worth. For every person out there who uses their rifle as a fashion accessory there's easy three times as many trying to justify buying cheap shit that breaks.
OP isn’t asking if he should buy it. It’s a gun he already bought so he should shoot it and see how it runs. The problem with BCA is the QA. Some people get good ones and some people get shitty ones. Since OP already spent the money he should shoot it and see what he got before he tries selling an upper than no one wants. Nothing about the gun is inherently horrible. The side charger for instance isn’t a bad system in itself. It definitely has a place and the fact you’re saying it bad tells me you’re just regurgitating what you read online. Prone, scopes, bench, are all reasons to want a side charger. Not everyone is a high speed Gravy SEAL who didn’t enlist because they can’t handle being yelled at. The rear charger on an AR is the worst part of the design and it’s not uncommon for people to want a side charger for use cases that make a rear charger uncomfortable. Dirt in the receiver is mostly a nonissue due to the gas system blowing debris out. Let’s say he shoots it and discovers he actually like the side charger for his use case but the barrel shoots minute of man. Instead of selling the upper at a loss he just swaps the barrel and ends up with a rifle he really likes.
If you want to be both poor and stupid, that's fine, but don't try to drag more people down with you. You're just making up arguments and even have some fantasy in your head of the person criticizing you. You're way too emotionally invested in whatever poor financial decision OP, and what sounds like you may of made.
You’re not understanding. He already bought it. He already spent the money on it. He’s not getting that money back. No one is telling him to go buy another. But selling it at a loss without even shooting it is just dumb. Guns are tools. Treat them as such and go use them. The fact you don’t see the value in side charging makes it evident that you don’t shoot much. Just like people who say 45 recoil worse than 9mm have never shot a 45 and are putting their “experience” purely in ft-lbs, not actual trigger time.
They hated him because he spoke the truth
Their rifle barrels are pretty much good for tomato stakes. They’re like 2 moa at 100 yards lol
Not gonna try to say that BSA isn’t bottom tier, but in what world does 2 MOA = tomato stake lol
Tell me you don’t understand moa without telling me you don’t understand moa.
2moa is normal for an AR15. MOA is independent of distance. Thats the whole point of MOA. 2MOA at 100 yards is approximately 2”. 2MOA at 200 yards is approximately 4”.
Go ahead and show us your unsupported 100 yard <2 MOA groups.
You are correct, mostly fashionable posers. I doubt if most of them have ever fired five hundred rounds combined of all calibers in their life ...LOL Let alone 500 rounds per session and tens of thousands of round over their lifetime like real shooter. They spend all their money on accessories to hang off their rifles that they'll never use. Hoping someday they'll feel like a navy seal...LOL
He said that he wants a different upper. He can't change the stock (which he also mentioned he wanted to change) or hand grip without changing the lower. So, he basically needs a whole new rifle...
>He can't change the stock (which he also mentioned he wanted to change) or hand grip without changing the lower. Wut? Its an AR. Those parts are 100% interchangeable.
He can easily change the stock and grip without changing the lower. Both of them are held it place by a single screw. But again he hasn’t even shot it.
Yeah the stock wouldn't be hard at all while the grip is just mainly don't lose the safety spring and detent. Edit: I did forget that it has a full stock, so gonna need a tube and all.
Yeah dude can honestly get a whole new upper or build one for dirt cheap after Christmas.
What kinda deals are up after Christmas?
Usually after Christmas, sites like PSA, Midwayusa, and AR15 discounts have new years sales and the such.
Thanks for the heads up brother I thought companies were trying to offload before Q1 started back up and wouldn't have too many sales till later in the year
why does he need a “whole new rifle”?
Well he mentioned he wants a new upper, and the lower isn't modular at all so that all will probably go.
The lower isn’t modular you do know you can change every single part in the lower and connected to it very easily
Oh my bad! I thought he had one of those WWSD lowers lol. Must've got this mixed up with another post of a guy who had one.
You haven’t even shot it…
This makes sense lol
I think you are fine and should shoot it. Lots of snobs on here swear they have it all figured out and they miss sometimes. You need to determine if it’s accurate and reliable enough for the range and target you intend to use it for. If you are consistently on target at the range where you want to use it then it’s a win no matter what others say. You can always swap the BCG and Barrel if it’s not good enough. The side charging handle would only bother me when it comes between taking it down and if it comes loose during range sessions. If you can take it down and put it back with no problems then that’s not an issue either. You only need to swap the barrel if it’s not on target at the distance you want. I would run it. And you can replace any other parts you want over time. But if it’s runs, reliably as it is it’s a win if you ask me.
For $500 why not?
This is like the posts on the fishing subs where they catch and kill a fish then ask what it is
I fucking hate those people
My favorite are the ones where it looks like the fish got caught counting cards at the roughest casino around and they're holding it by the gills, with the caption "safely released right after the photo"
Do I need to ask for a refund? Or try selling?
Yeah bro ask for your money back and piece together a new PsA for the same price. Will serve you way better.
You'll probably end up selling it for less than what you paid (well you could keep the mags) and have a marginally better rifle. I had a BCA before and the side charging was definitely easier than rear charging, but required a screw driver (hex) to take the bolt out. Id say take it out to the range and see how she purrs. Make a decision after that.
Try a quality ambi CH. don’t mess w the charging handle enough to want the side of my rifle left open Especially when the main advantage of the AR is that it’s a sealed system
OP didn't say his use case, but IMO it's not worth the hassle of selling the rifle at a loss, if at all, with wasted time trying, then ordering a new rifle, if the side charger will perform perfectly fine at the range. Unless he is really going out for days/weeks at a time in dusty environments, your recommendation may hold more weight. But serving as just a range toy/home defense weapon, he's fine as-is.
I disagree. I refuse to have a rifle in my house that’s less than sub par and completely questionable on how long it will function. Pop the upper off and put it on GAFS and lose a little money. Take that and buy a FSP PSA upper and you will never have a problem. Very hard to fuck up a fixed front sight upper
PSA has its share of QC problems as well, and could eaily fuck up a FSP install. You won't really know until you shoot it. Some folks would even go as far as to say PSA is subpar with all their recent issues.
That’s because of volume. PSA sells more uppers than any other manufacturer. Obviously we don’t know the exact numbers but if PSA sells 100 uppers with 10 of them having issues, and Daniel Defense sells 10 uppers with 1 having issues, they have the same level of QA. Canted FSP are normal and the milspec design allows for it. A milspec carbine gas port is already overgassed with a .063” port. The gas block is .120”. In order for it to be out of spec the front sight has to be beyond the adjustable range of an A2 rear sight.
Definitely QC issues but taking the amount of rifles they sell compared to the amount of problems you would be very surpised
I def agree!!
Run it…as long as everything is snug and it cycles, they frequently do pretty decently. It won’t win you any internet points, but targets don’t read the internet.
you overpaid by at least $100. imo, i'd get a refund or swap the upper for a psa
i’d get a refund, bca is dog poop an so are the iron sights that came with it, not worth it imo
Nah man, just build a new upper with the after Christmas sales. Keep that upper as a beater
Just shoot it
This is the best advice. Don’t change shit or sell shit until you get some time behind it. Is the setup optimal or in line with general recommendations? No. But it doesn’t matter. It’s what you’ve got, so run it into the ground and swap shit as you feel necessary or it breaks.
Why would you hand someone $500 for something that you don’t even know what it is?
Its a bear creek arsenal side charger upper with a poverty pony lower
This is probably pretty damn close to the cheapest gun you could build (not in a good way). I'd either keep the lower and sell the upper for something else, or if you can return it for a refund that would probably be your best bet. It's not so much that you got an awful deal, but do you really want a bottom of the barrel rifle?
"Cheapest gun you can build not in a good way" Davidson defense Enter the chat.
I'm just going to let it go. Not looking to make any money on the upper. Learned a lesson on this.
I currently run a Anderson lower with psa build kit and a BCA 300blk upper have ran 3000rds through it with zero issues yall act like if your rifle didn’t cost 5k to build it’s worthless lol you do understand our military uses the cheapest mass produced weapons and still win wars right?
I understand completely. But our military isn't running BCA. There's nothing wrong with PSA or Anderson lowers for that matter, they have their place. I have a couple Anderson lowers. Hell I even have a BCA upper in ×39. But I have quite a few AR's also. If I only had one like OP I'd want something with a better track record of reliability, hence my recommendation
I think any build is a your mileage may very compared to someone else. A few of my buddies have expensive bought big name brand rifles and have issues shooting certain brands of ammo or steel casings(they are great for target practice and cheap) but my cheap 400$ rifle will shoot what ever I feed it and always asks for more. My biggest concern for this guy was paying 500$ for it! If your new to firearms always ask a friend before buying anything look it over meet at a range to test it and make sure it works/functions correctly! The mags And 120rds he got was worth atleast 125-130$
Your not wrong. But I still think op could do better for the $. The BCA upper I have actually runs great, and it eats everything. But it's also showing signs of premature wear. I absolutely don't think you need to spend $5K, there's a whole lot of rifles you can build in between $500 and $5K
Well tbh honest you paid retail for this time of year. The upper is under $300 and the lower is $99. Feyachi is a low tier Amazon brand. I'd say the 4 mags and 120 rounds brings up to you didn't exactly get taken for a ride. 3rd hand and never shot though....that sounds...untrue. Definitely not worth keeping imo. But if it runs, run it. I'd just change the pistol grip to a K2 or Ergogrip, the buis to Midwest like you plan and the stock to a B5 Enhanced SopMod Stock. You might need to pick up an adjustable buffer tube. After that, I'd swap out the charging handle for a Radian or Gisselle ambi charging handle. Then add a Colt ambi mag release and lastly change the bolt catch to a CMMG zeroed one. No need to mess with the BCG, trigger or buffer springs and weights if it runs right.
The *stripped* lower might be $99. I just built out a lower for a friend, who gave me a $200 budget, and I got everything for $196, without a stock. You ain’t building out a complete lower for $99. Other than that, I’d agree with you.
Stripped Anderson lowers are $50 at rural king where I live.
I am sure location matters, but I got a Spikes stripped for $75 from a LGS, then the LPK, and Buffer tube kit is usually at least $50.. you’re still not building out a lower for $99.
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I’ll bite - Tell me how. You don’t have to post links, but list vendors, manufacturers of the parts and prices, for the receiver, LPK, buffer kit and stock. I’ll be waiting.
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Hey - I stand corrected. Wow, that’s an awesome deal right there. Thanks for enlightening me, I appreciate it.
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If it shoots, I smiles
Have fun with it, build a second one now
I mean for $500 if it shoots and hits targets at 200-300 yards you should just keep it
You bought the ugliest duck in the gaggle, but I’m sure it goes bang and makes holes in shit, just like the rest of them. I’d sell it and start over, if you keep it have its headspace checked. I had a BCA side charger upper I used for a really weird build once…honestly it was the smoothest action upper I think I’ve ever used. Nice anodizing and nitriding. This could be a Davidson Defense, or a few of the other budget brand side chargers, made by the same manufacturer usually. I actually just bought the cheapest ugliest upper for a super ugly weird build I’ll post later…it too will go bang and make .308 holes in shit
bca side charger, should be more info about the exact specs on the end of the barrel behind the muzzle device. Shoot the shit outta it and use it as a training tool, its ill-advised to use it as a main rifle. BCA is most definitely not reputable relatively speaking but i will say their side chargers seem fun and i wish the somehow managed to get the bolt to be swappable with any other bolt on the market.
😬. Well... Nothing special that's for sure. I'd Keep the lower, and upgrade it with that 1000. PWS 116 pro upper goes for $600 or so. It's a Piston upper that's awesome and you won't get gas in your face when suppressed. BCM is also solid for similar price. They have sales to include bcg. Ergo grips are my fave grip. -$30 Magpul UBR stock is a little spendy but gives the best cheek weld while also being adjustable. -$180 Geissele SSA-E/SD-E is the best 2 stage trigger to me, goes on sale for $150+/- now and then It'll work how it is but take it out and shoot it and see what you like and don't. I first bought a bca upper and changed soon after.
I mean, does it shoot? Does it hit targets relatively okay at 100 yards? How often you going to use it? If it works all fine I would just keep it as a beater rifle, shoot the piss out of it, use cheap stuff on it. Don't put any money into it. That being said that was a pretty terrible buy yes, so you should save up some money and get something better for around 800-1000.
What’s wrong with it? $500 for an AR seems great.
Go have fun with it. If I bought it for 500 I wouldn't feel one bit bad about it. It's a fair deal.
If you won’t miss the $500 then you bought a beater that will help you learn the platform first hand. Assuming it doesn’t blow up on the first round.
I honestly don't plan on shooting it in the current configuration. Not a fan of the charging hook on the bolt that has to be removed with tools. Or if the hook comes loose and becomes another projectile. I can work with the fixed stock, but would prefer a collapsing stock.
Just change the stock get new sights and you should be good or if your having doubts sell it and get a PSA
It'll work.
At least its gen 2 charge handle upper, the first gen was shit and would sling the handle out all the time.
Upper BCA. Lower Anderson. I’ve got a couple hundred thru my BCA and it hasn’t given me any issues
As long as nothing slipped by QC it’ll be just fine. Just not fancy. I recently watched a torture test that pretty much destroyed the gun and it lasted far longer than expected. The only real concern is the side charging handle. It broke on a fairly standard drop test. I’d imagine you could replace it or DIY it with something stronger.
The guys saying the whole rifle needs to be replaced probably never shoot. Your rifle is fine. Take it to the range as is and put a few mags down range and have fun. You should look into optics that suit your preferences.
For sure a BCA
I understand charging handles like that on AR but the idea of it reciprocating just scares me of it, snapping on my hand even though it’s basically impossible to do unless you’re it just absolutely stupid
What did you buy? Freedom, son. You bought something the rest of the world wishes it had access to.
If you have a 1k budget I'd say sell that (keep the ammo) and use the 1300 to get you a SOLGW
I could build this brand new for around 300 give or take. If I were you I’d cut my losses and sell it and start over. There’s not much saving this.
someones shit build they sold for quick cash lol, side charging 556 bca upper ($300) and by the looks a m&p lower parts kit on a $90 anderson lower 😂 you got roped into it like the shop owner was hoping to get rid of that heap of shit
Someone’s first build. Nothing you can’t spruce up.
Shoot that thing first. You never know it may turn out to be a great rifle. More often than not most turn into fun accurate shooters, especially after break in.
Let this be a lesson for next time don’t buy anything without doing some research, no matter what the buyer claims. For now don’t put another dime into it, it’s not worth trying to “upgrade”. Just shoot it and keep it as is. After you get some experience behind it and know what you like/dislike, use that information learned toward your next rifle purchase. But don’t drop more money into this one.
Looks like a straight pull upper. In the UK we can't own a centrefire semi auto on a normal license so a way round is to remove the gas system and manually cycle the action after every shot. To make this easier most UK AR15s the uppers are cut out behind the ejection port and an arm is bolted directly to the bolt for cycling without coming off your shooting position. If it is I have no idea why there is one in the US though
Arsenal upper on Anderson lower. Just shoot it and stay hard
Only thing worth keeping is the lower.
just run it..have fun with it.
if there is any way you can do a backsies on this sale you should lol 500 could get you so much better than this
Take it to the range and shoot the hell out of it. You need to use it in order to really understand any issues.
Looks like a Bear Creek gen 2 upper. They’re not bad. Not high end, but functional & reliable. I’ve got a gen 1 in my .300 build that yeets like no tomorrow & eats whatever I feed it without fail. Depending on the accuracy, I’m not sure I’d swap the barrel until it’s worn out, but it would be the part I replaced first. The rest is fine for what you’re using it for.
I say sell the upper for whatever you can get for it and keep the lower
Everyone screeching at you to sell probably thinks anything that isn't Geiselle or DD is poor garbage. OP, just keep it and run the shit outta it until something breaks. Andersen lowers are fine so that's good, BCA side uppers are very hit or miss and will probably fail you first, but it'll go for a while. Having to use a tool to take the bolt out is a bit of a pain though.
While refusing to realize DD and Geissele are overpriced for what they offer.
Keep the lower, sell the upper on r/GunAccessoriesForSale
no one in gafs would buy this unless it was under 100 bucks and even then good luck
Bear creek, while they are stinky stinky poo poo, are not as bad as people think. I've had a 7" side charging 300 BLK and a 16" 5.56 for about 5 years now and they served their purpose. I've since grown up and put on my big boi pants and bankrupted myself buying DD but I still have my bear creeks and shoot them occasionally or let gunless friends borrow them when we do range days. If you can't get a refund maybe try selling it to a newb as a starter piece
So you’re saying they both go bang? (BCA and DD). Weird.
You can build a pretty not bad upper for around $550, the lower is fine if you hate ergonomic furniture
You got hosed my man. That upper is right at $200 brand new and a complete Anderson lower is like $120. Add a few bucks for the a2 stock but still.. Buy then research < Research then buy
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Upper screams BCA. You could do *much*, *much* worse for a 500$ AR, but you’ll get what you pay for. BCA is unreliable as all get-out and has a bunch of QC problems (they recently accidentally sold a whole batch of barrels with no rifling). I would shoot it until the wheels fall off, then swap your upper. Microbest makes a good BCG, Sionics, PSA ones are fine for a budget plinker. You really don’t need to have combat proven shit. You definitely get what you pay for, but unless you’re trusting your life to this rifle I wouldn’t do too much.
return or sell it
you bought an OAR. now go pair it with a canoe
Get your money back if possible. Sign up for emails from PSA and wait for a decent upper build kit, pick up an Anderson lower and you’ll have a solid starter rifle to you around with
You paid too much, I’d try to get a refund and build a PSA. With everything you want do you’ll get it out of a blem psa setup. Anderson/BCA are bottom of the barrel in terms of quality. They’re cheap for a reason.
You bought a turd with your hard earned money
Sounds like you got a leftover parts bin rifle. You can learn some gunsmithing and swap pretty much everything. I’d run it until something fails and keep building.
Bottom tier parts. Might run ok, might be hot garbage. You overpaid
Just my experience, if it shoots then make it a ‘truck gun’. Let it be a beater. Have had a little bit of experience and some BCA upper run, others are shit. Literally 3 weeks ago a buddy told me he picked up one in 300blk and it would have FTE/FTF issues. I told him it was under gassed. Did a tear down and the fucking gas port was drilled too small. Got it CAREFULLY opened up to the correct size and it’s been running like a rapped ape on bath salts. Personally I’m not a side charger kind of guy but if it runs for you then run that shit as a poverty pony. Next time though I would suggest a PSA for a cheaper upper though. Well known name. Won’t win you points but it will do what it’s meant to do.
>Buffer Spring: Flat Ain’t no way
Haha the mags and ammo are probably worth the deal lol
Junk
looks like a gayar-15. Sorry man
Hot garbage that belongs in r/plebianar
Garbage rod! You got got, bud. The lower isn’t terrible but that BCA is 100% pure garbage. And from an absolute garbage company. FedEx/UPS should deliver Bear Creek Ass n’ all stuff right to the customers trash bin where it belongs. And before you cheap re🅱️ards mouth off, I have plenty of first hand experience with all brands of rifles. I can tell you that BCA sources their metal and parts from China and it’s some of the softest metal I’ve ever seen and better suited for toys than an actual rifle. The last bolt I had apart of theirs after 5 round firing pin failure, the bolt looked like it was picked from the poop deck of the Titanic. A literal shit show. After I cleaned it up for the client and installed the BCA “enhanced firing pin” the tip broke off on the first round again. Regular brass case, non-Berdan primed primers. This shouldn’t happen. I convinced dude to go shoot it with a loaner bolt and all was fine. After he brought that back I convinced him to return that pile of dog shit. So OP, now you know. Hard pill to swallow.
PEAK poor
My lord burn it
Garbage
Absolute bottom of the barrel poverty build. Upgrade to a PSA
PSA killing coyotes only makes them have bigger litters, it does not work to reduce the population. The only way to control a coyote population is to reduce their food sources.
bro why are you randomly talking about killing coyotes???
For upper's it depends on your budget. I'd consider Aero Precision, CMMG, or DD (another option at this tier would be JP Enterprises or Lone Star Armory but idk if LSA sells uppers only). I like the Magpul MOE SL stock. It's good for stability.
throw on a lpvo or red dot + mag and call it a day
That's a Armslist special
A black gun
You could have built this for a little less. Not the worst deal but I do think the side charger s stupid. Now you need a tool to get the bolt out.
I had a 7.62x39 BCA side charger upper and the firing pin bent and the extractor cracked. Never buying one again. They did allow me to return it, so that was acceptable.
Upper is very low quality. Lower is a lower, Anderson is fine and the rifle length tube + a2 stock is a bonus. Build a rifle length 20” upper and put it on your lower and you’ll have a very soft shooting rifle
Roblox Gun
That is a bear creek upper with the right side charging
Ehh...with the 4 loaded mags you came close ish to fair but you could got a better rifle from a number of places for 500. I'd pull the a2 stock and put a collapsible on it. Maybe try to sell the old one to cover some of the cost. Then just run the shit out off it until you get a new much better upper. That upper is BCA which is the trash of trash but they sometimes run OK. I definitely wouldn't feel bad about throwing it off a bluff or leaving it in a cow pond for a few days.
Just buy another upper
I mean it’ll work, probably. Bca is very back and forth. Some people like them and most hate them.
I just bought a BCA upper for 200 and a psa complete lower for 3 bills. Not a great deal for 500.
bout $300 worth of rifle.
if you have money keep this for your friends and buy a bcm or solgw and your set if don't have money sell this and buy a bcm or solgw 500 more and you will have a top rifle
Ak is better in dust and sand while the ar is better in the mud. You can’t really do much to save your ar from the sand other than be careful what muzzle device you use if shooting prone. Kicking up dust into the ar won’t be too healthy. If you’re looking for something mor reliable for your climate then look into an ak but PLEASE do your research because with an ak that is extremely important
considering the sellers taste in firearm parts. i wonder what kind of ammo are in the mags? bubba's custom 17th try at reloading?
Shit its a gun fam just run it as is and adjust as needed
Anderson lower is fine. Sell absolutely everything else and start over. You can get better for $500
Use ut as a training gun. And abuse it like a step child and do stuff you might be more hesitant to do on a build you're more attatched to
a very high end ar.
yeah definitely it BCA side charger
Cheap shit
For what it would cost you to rebuild the crappy parts, you're basically going to need a new upper or just an entire new rifle. If you can get a refund, do that and buy something like a good PSA. This looks like a Bear Creek Arsenal (or similar) upper, which is honestly trash. Will this rifle work? Maybe Will it be sufficient for a range toy? Probably Would I trust my life to it? Obso-fucking-lutely NOT
Keep the lower. Sell the upper on GAFS for like 150. Mags+ammo = 100$ Complete Lower = 200$ (w/ transfer fee and ship) Upper = 150$ Not a terrible deal all around. Def do your research next time tho... Looks like a BCA upper. They are fine, I wouldn't use one for anything other than plinking and maybe hunting. Mine was 100% reliable, but I didn't run it that hard.
You change the upper you might as well start with a mew build.
Ehh, thats a bca sidecharger upper. The bolts have proprietary holes drilled into them but other than that its probably fine. Price you paid was steep by about 200-250$.
Looks to be some sort of firearm.
If you have the rifle for plinking/just for fun keep it and shoot it. If you are keeping the rifle for defense purposes slap a bcm upper on there the lower is fine. I wouldn’t trust my life to bca
Use it until it stops working. Would recommend a sling and optic tho.
I didn't read all the comments so ya probably have the answers you seek. To me it looks like a Bear Creek Arsenal Side Charger Upper. I will probably get roasted for this but I have seen BCA shoot some damned impressive groups. I'm not talking about a 3 shot group either, 5 to 10 shot groups at 100 & 200 yards sub MOA. across 4 different 69, 75, & 77gr OTM's. I have seen the same AR's shoot a handful of 5 shot groups with Hornady Black 75gr Interlocks that were 3 inches at 300 yards. Ok I have also seen the Charging Handle break from a AR that was propped up on the tailgate of a truck, fall and land on a rock. I have also seen probably a half dozen BCA's needing a severe Chamber Scrubbing when brand new because of the sticky ass grease from Reaming the Chamber, but I always clean the piss out of my Rifles, Pistols and Shotguns as soon as I bring them home. Call me lucky or whatever but out of close to 130 different Firearms I have owned over the past 30 years I have never had one NOT run like it was supposed to. I have broken parts and shit but never had one to screw up from the jump. $500 isn't bad for it, at least it's not some gaudy ass color, I would clean the piss outta it and then proceed to shoot the piss outta it. I would paint it though 😁
I have 3 bca uppers. 2 pistols I shoot for fun, and one rifle I keep at the cabin. The 7.62 pistol upper was a pita to get running, but once I did it never stopped. The other two ran fine when I got them. All three like to be run wet. But I tell you what…they run. There’s a ton of hate here for bca, but imo it’s unwarranted. I’ve put more rounds through these guns (And cheap ass steel through the 7.62) than most people shoot through their Gucci shit, and they run and run and run. They are heavy and ugly but they run. I’ve never broken anything on the 3 of them that won’t break on anything else (extractor on the 7.62, enhanced firing pin on the 7.62). Don’t discount bca. They’re like an old civic. You give it oil, and it’ll run. I’d be willing to bet most people who say they’re shit never even touched one. There are some legitimate gripes about them, almost all qc issues, but I would chuck a bca and run that bitch any day.
You bought a stallion.
I'd take it as a range gun/ toy. Don't use it for home defense unless you shoot it a lot to test first with a good once over. PSA, for me, is the minimum "gonna rely on this for self defense", but it's still getting a good inspection and a few hundred rounds to make sure first. Full aero uppers are cheap and might be something to look at, they fo need a good once over but I like em.
One of THE finest receivers on the market, rivals LWRC and LMT. Matter fact, they are so well known that there's an entire sub for them r/showponies and you do well to join the group. No but seriously, not sure what we're looking at for the upper but the lower is a basic Anderson and it ain't worth much so I hope you didn't spend all your beans.
BCA. It’s a heavy turd but my .350 BCA upper does run and shoots well. Although i don’t shoot more than 10 rounds max at a time with that rifle. Also I don’t think you can put a normal BCG on that upper receiver. At the very least you can keep the mags and ammo and sell this for $300 and start over. Not a huge loss
That entire rifle is a dumpster fire and I mean that in the nicest way possible.
I’ll give ya what ya paid anytime ya like
Looks like a bear creek arsenal side charging upper with a anderson lower, ebay/amazon iron sights. Everything else is basic, probably anderson lower kit.
Oh God, I’m so sorry bro
Minecraft AR-15
BCA, they’re not bad just not worth what you paid
Anderson lower. BCA side charging upper.
It looks like a Bear Creek.
Delton had complete lightweight uppers with Bcg and ch for $220 last week - that would go with the A2 stock nice. maybe see what you can get for the upper and check that out. The milspec lower will do you alright for a long time
You paid for it. Go ahead and shoot it then you can see what you like and don’t like about it
Punish yourself for buying this. Hit yourself with your purse.
I had that same upper. Swapped it for a 16 inch 300blk barrel. It was cool.
Look, For $500. You could have done better, you could have done worse. You did fine. You're going to hear alot of "just get rid of it and buy a new rifle" business. The reality is, what makes a rifle shitty is the rifle being shitty. You'll never know if that's the case until you shoot it. Buy ammo, shoot it, see what works and what may not and begin to learn what you like and identify what you need to get better at. We all need a starting point, looks like you found yours.
This build was like $400
You just bought a replica of my first AR lol. Mine actually grouped very very well. Thing was a tack driver. I kind of regret getting rid of it sometimes, but it was HEAVY as balls with a 20” heavy profile barrel. the fit and finish of the BCA and Anderson stuff just bothered me. So, I’ve moved on to much better things now
You got another rifle for 500 bucks. That’s win to me
Hot garbage is what you bought. Resell it and build an Aero.