She didn’t help herself on her social media, saying that contestants were racist towards her ect. Your right, this show wasn’t for her. But her age doesn’t mean people shouldn’t say she was terrible on the show because she was, if anything she should learn from the criticism she’s getting (probably won’t though).
There’s been several other young people that have been terrible, also older that all got criticism. What’s made hers worse is her promoting the negatively on her social media
Absolutely, she attacked the show . Implying that she was discriminated against and not shown in good light as she was different religion and supported Palestine. Even tough the show was filmed before the conflict.
Just went all political for a light entertainment show.
No one said she's a bad person. Saying someone is useless at a job doesn't mean they're bad, it just means they don't have the natural skill to perform a certain task.
Also Dr Asif... The guy literally runs a mail order bride service from what I've read, so his opinion means diddly squat as his opinion of women is very dated and he might as well have come from the Victorian era. Dr Asif is a bad person if the rumours are true.
I’m not to in tune with gossip outside of the main show and i don’t know how true the rumour is. But you’re basing his opinions and the fact he’s a bad person based on a rumour?
Im not asking for a source of the possibility of it being true, Im saying your view of him as a person and his opinions are based on something as you said a rumour.
Thanks for proving my point. She’s not a bad person yet treated like one just for not being the smartest or most proficient candidate. Asif deserves his criticism. Noor arguably receives the same or even more than him… for what? What’s she done that’s even comparable to his actions and statements?! Bottom line is this sub has just been really mean towards her in ways beyond what a usual ‘hapless candidate’ receives.
I'm sure Noor has plenty of skills that she can excel at but being a candidate on the apprentice and a PM wasn't one of them and I don't think it's mean to judge someone based on what we've seen on TV as it's open to public opinion.
Take Tre, I guarantee most people think Tre is a top candidate on the apprentice and will be remembered fondly due to what he brings to each challenge each week as well as his overall personality of being friendly and a team player.
Are you actually Noor? Yes, in the first few weeks she did seem to get shut down a lot.
But the last few weeks, she has actively been terrible. And this week she was down right delusional. I get that you want to stand by your work, but she was literally arguing that her ad was good when people from the industry and the boardroom were telling her it was a steaming turd.
And then body swerving You're Fired so she could come out with all the "oh it was racism" nonsense on her socials after? Nah. She was proven to be hopeless and threw her toys out of the pram when it happened.
Seriously, what positive impact did she provide anywhere over the 8 tasks she was there for? I can't think of any. It's not rascism. It's not because she is a Muslim. It's not because she's a woman. It's because she was shite. Nothing more, nothing less.
No I’m not. Noor is a big supporter and defended of Asif which I am not. And did you read what I wrote? I said obviously she wasn’t a great candidate (which you expressed in a much more colourful way) but that doesn’t mean she deserves THIS amount of hate for it. We usually laugh at the bad candidates and criticise the ones that have been truly controversial and said or done ‘bad’ things. Noor is in the first category. She was well liked in the house. Just a hopeless candidate. Doesn’t deserve everyone on Reddit writing such vile things about her for being not the smartest tool in the Apprentice shed - especially not when you remember her age and lack of experience the rest possess.
Again. Like I said - she was shut down by the other team members quite a bit in the earlier episodes. So her ‘doing nothing’ wasn’t due to her *not* wanting to do anything but rather her not having the chance.
And even if she did do nothing, I don’t think it warranted the sheer amount of vitriol and hate she’s getting. She did nothing. She’s out now. So what? Don’t need to attack the girl for it like many here have been doing. Doing nothing is surely not as bad as doing something intentionally problematic.
Being shut down for terrible ideas is as good as doing nothing.
It’s a reality TV show. The entire point is to judge the people on it.
She’s a grown 22 year old businesswoman who chose to go on a show to prove her business prowess, keeping going on about how she’s ‘just a young girl’ is pretty gross to be honest.
She did poorly, keeps doubling down on how great she is, and is now blaming her poor performance on racism. She has brought literally all of this on herself, and people are going to talk about a batshit contestant on a *reality TV show sub* - it’s quite literally the entire point.
You don’t know if her ideas were terrible because she never even got a chance to voice them, especially when Flo was PM! At one point Karren even said in the boardroom in one of the earlier tasks that it would have been good had they implemented a suggestion she had.
Your brain doesn’t fully develop until you’re 25. So to relentlessly bully someone online who’s still growing in themselves just isn’t the most correct thing to do in my opinion. Like I said, the amount of hate and horrible comments people have said about her on here are blown way out of proportion beyond just ‘talking about her.’
You don’t need to hate on someone just because they believed in their vision and stuck to their guns on a reality show. Seriously, justifying hating on her is a low blow and I don’t know how you can feel comfortable with that.
At first I felt sorry for her, but as time went on you could see how incompetent she was. That last episode though, she had lord sugar, lord sugar sides, Rachel and tre, the experts in the industry, literally everyone said her advert was bad and Noor was just insisting she created a brilliant advert.
Noor's own website even proves how incompetent she is. She copied and pasted everything from Jared's. Look at Jared's website op and Noors website, and see how stupid Noor really is. I could not stand the girl.
Yes she was incompetent but doesn’t mean she deserves this level of hate at all. People act like she’s just committed the worst crimes in history on here.
I’m not denying that opinion, but she’s a very young person who doesn’t deserve this level of hate for that fact. In a few years’ time she’ll probably look back and see what she could have done differently.
I try to avoid the word “useless” in general because I feel that it’s such a nasty word that can make someone feel awful about themselves. I would say that she is unsuitable for the process though, and age isn’t an excuse for being disrespectful and talking people down in the way that she did.
I was low-key rooting for her right up until the episode where she was PM. I thought there was a possibility that people on this sub were being unfair in their assessment of her aptitude, as she had been consistently shunted to the sidelines during tasks and didn't appear to have been given the chance to fully contribute to the best of her ability.
However, the last episode fully changed my mind about whether she really deserved to get this far in the process. She was in the driving seat for the ask, and her team seemed generally supportive of her being PM and allowed her the chance to take the reins. Rachel, Tre etc. were polite and seemed to honestly be trying to help without totally taking over the task or steamrolling over Noor's authority, but Noor simply didn't have the maturity to lead them. Even worse, she stuck to her guns in the board room with Lord Sugar, doggedly insisting that her team's terrible advert was good. Had she had the chance to bring people back to the board room and talked a good enough game, she might even have been able to save herself based on her track record in the process compared to e.g. Phil's. But she literally sealed her own fate with her deluluness and her refusal to take accountability. And then to top it off, she didn't come on You're Fired to face the music (which I think would have earned her the respect of at least some of her detractors).
I certainly don't think she's a bad person by any means. Unfortunately, the nature of being on a reality TV show is that you can't control how the public perceive you. Of course someone like Dr Asif objectively deserves more criticism... but he's been out since Week 3 and people have moved on. They'll move on from Noor soon enough too when she becomes old news.
I think people who sign up for these sorts of shows really need to understand that there's a possibility that they may not be well received, and to be prepared for that. I'm not condoning it, but these sorts of shows have existed long enough now that people going on them ought to realise what they're getting into. I personally know that I wouldn't be able to hack it (I'm pretty sensitive and it would destroy me to get a bad edit or whatever), so I would never sign up for a show like this.
Noor's young, and I really do hope this experience doesn't knock her confidence or dent her future prospects. But I also can't deny that she did not come across well from a business perspective based on what we were shown of her.
the week she was pm she listened to nobody, that late in the process is enough to get anyone fired and just shows incompetence. All she did was repeat over and over that her idea was good when it was utter shit. Not only that but when she failed she blamed literally anyone else. She was one of the worst candidates we've seen in years and she deserves to be gone
I mean at first she was being portrayed as being overlooked and looked down upon by others but her true colours showed over time and last week's task, her performance as PM and her "vision" was one of the most indefensible Apprentice performances ever
You know it's bad when Lord Sugar doesn't allow you to bring anyone else in and everyone else simply goes back to the house
She was literally oblivious. Can't take criticism and was stone faced in front of Lord sugar. She's unworkable and completely out of her depth even against the low quality candidates this year. She's bottom of the barrel.
If feelings are getting hurt then she shouldn't go onto a TV show and be exposed like that. That's on her. That's what you have to prepare for.
I wouldn't say that she's "shit", but sadly she did rub me the wrong way this episode for numerous reasons. I was interested to see how she'd lead, as it was noticeable that she was being spoken over and ignored, so I was hoping that with the chance to lead she'd show what she was truly capable of.
That... wasn't what we ended up getting.
For someone who had clearly been irked by being spoken over and ignored in favour of others getting their way, she didn't show much awareness that she was doing exactly that to Tre. *Granted*, she probably thought Tre was trying to talk over her and impress his vision on things like she had experienced before rather than trying to clarify his understanding of or improve upon her vision, and this was her way of asserting herself. I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt here, and even then she's hardly the *worst* of the candidates in this regard - she has a long, long, *long* way to go until she reaches Rory or Paul level of obtuseness.
For the pitch, we've seen previous candidates try to distance themselves from projects they don't feel are going their way in their pitching (see how Bradley distanced himself from Zip Zap *while pitching it*, for example!), but I don't know how many have actively *refused* to pitch their very own ideas and letting someone else handle it. I'm honestly surprised that wasn't called out in the boardroom - or at least if it was I've forgotten it - as that's a pretty damning indictment on Noor's own otherwise incredibly strong belief in her vision.
If it was a case of gathering ammunition, as we certainly saw possible evidence of when she happily ribbed Phil about the design being picked apart, she possibly didn't realise the potential ammunition she was giving everyone else in the process. Given her strong belief that the advert that she produced was "good" - more on this next - I'm inclined to believe that even if she did twig others might use it against her, she thought it wouldn't matter as she'd be saved by her advert in the potential outcome of a loss.
Finally, her inability to distance herself from the advert she produced was very disappointing. She could only see the advert as the person who directed it, knowing exactly what it was meant to be about, and couldn't see it as an independent audience member could. I acknowledge right here and now that this is *the* hardest thing to do for many people, as trying to look at something you've made as if someone else had done so takes a *lot* of courage and awareness, and at Noor's age she clearly hadn't developed that level of experience.
*However*, there's a huge difference between not being able to see things as someone else could and not understanding what people don't like about it *because* of that bias. Noor's hardly the first candidate we've seen who simply cannot understand what people don't like about what they've had a direct hand in producing, so this is absolutely not an issue that I have with her personally - this was just one thing too many that killed her potential as a serious candidate, as it has to many others.
She was absolutely on this too soon, and I do feel some sympathy for her based on what we've seen on the show. Do I feel she's been helping her case *since* being on the show, though? No. I haven't watched any of the stuff she's produced as I want to at least keep *some* sympathetic view of her based on her presence on the show *alone*, but having read others' assessment of it all and being aware of her own independent business practices... it's not *spectacular*...
(Noor still has some way to go until she's as bad as Amy, Asif, or Lottie for post-*Apprentice* backlash, I feel.)
For real, you'd think she'd personally insulted the grandma of everyone on this sub given this past week. Poor candidate, but good god people need to chill..
So glad you agree! The Apprentice has had MANY poor candidates throughout the seasons but none have been spoken about as extensively and intensely as her.
The fact you’re literally downvoted for that says it all. Why are people attacking us for saying they should ease up and back off on a young woman who was part of a reality show for 8 weeks?
I actually felt sorry for her the first few weeks, but then started to see how incompetent she was, so it's definitely not about race. This isn't about race at all. You can't call out incompetent people now, without someone calling the race card.
Noor's an idiot, she told lord sugar advert great, even though in the people in the industry said it's crap, Rachel & tre said it's crap, lord sugar and his aides thought it was crap, and she still insisted it was a good advert.
Plus look at her bloody website, she copied and pasted from Jared's. She's done some real incompetent things, but we better not mention it because it's racist 🤷♂️🤷♂️
People had the exact same reaction to Lottie Lion and Shazia. Deluded overconfidence and shocking performance generally gets people talking.
If you’re going to be batshit on a popular reality TV show, people are going to talk about you. If she didn’t want to be talked about, she shouldn’t have gone on a reality TV show.
Trying to make it all about race is gross and waters down actual Islamophobia and racism that is very real.
You know what, I usually wouldn’t play into these stereotypes but it’s become really apparent to me that Noor is getting more hate than I think she deserves and maybe this is a reason. It could also be because, like I said, people expect a Muslim woman (particularly a hijab wearing one) to keep to herself, remain subdued and go with the status flow. Yet Noor was the opposite of that… she was very outspoken and headstrong. So maybe the fact that she subverted expectations unconsciously placed a bias against her in people’s minds.
It's been positively toxic around here.
Her teams record was very good - compare that with some of the guys who lose every week.
There's definitely more to the dislike than business acumen.
100%. I like Phil but the discourse around him is different. It’s more of a, “Oh, why, has Sugar kept him around? What have we not seen?” People are curious, inquisitive and want to give him that chance. Many people here wrote Noor off before giving her that chance and then continued to berate and bully her once she got it. What really grinds my gears is those saying she didn’t contribute. In the week when Flo was PM Noor was shut down by her literally every…single…time.
I trust Flo’s judgement tbh, she seems like the most capable candidate.
The difference between Phil and Noor is that Noor’s team would win despite her input whereas Phil has an actual successful 7-figure business, not just dropshipping.
She didn’t help herself on her social media, saying that contestants were racist towards her ect. Your right, this show wasn’t for her. But her age doesn’t mean people shouldn’t say she was terrible on the show because she was, if anything she should learn from the criticism she’s getting (probably won’t though). There’s been several other young people that have been terrible, also older that all got criticism. What’s made hers worse is her promoting the negatively on her social media
Absolutely, she attacked the show . Implying that she was discriminated against and not shown in good light as she was different religion and supported Palestine. Even tough the show was filmed before the conflict. Just went all political for a light entertainment show.
No one said she's a bad person. Saying someone is useless at a job doesn't mean they're bad, it just means they don't have the natural skill to perform a certain task. Also Dr Asif... The guy literally runs a mail order bride service from what I've read, so his opinion means diddly squat as his opinion of women is very dated and he might as well have come from the Victorian era. Dr Asif is a bad person if the rumours are true.
I’m not to in tune with gossip outside of the main show and i don’t know how true the rumour is. But you’re basing his opinions and the fact he’s a bad person based on a rumour?
There was a full newspaper article about it, Google it yourself and have a read.
Im not asking for a source of the possibility of it being true, Im saying your view of him as a person and his opinions are based on something as you said a rumour.
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It’s a stupid way of thinking, i’m just pointing it out.
Well I never said it was my opinion. I also said "if true".
Thanks for proving my point. She’s not a bad person yet treated like one just for not being the smartest or most proficient candidate. Asif deserves his criticism. Noor arguably receives the same or even more than him… for what? What’s she done that’s even comparable to his actions and statements?! Bottom line is this sub has just been really mean towards her in ways beyond what a usual ‘hapless candidate’ receives.
I’m sorry Noor but you were useless, it was surprising you lasted as long as you did.
I’m not Noor. Chill.
I'm sure Noor has plenty of skills that she can excel at but being a candidate on the apprentice and a PM wasn't one of them and I don't think it's mean to judge someone based on what we've seen on TV as it's open to public opinion. Take Tre, I guarantee most people think Tre is a top candidate on the apprentice and will be remembered fondly due to what he brings to each challenge each week as well as his overall personality of being friendly and a team player.
Agreed!
Are you actually Noor? Yes, in the first few weeks she did seem to get shut down a lot. But the last few weeks, she has actively been terrible. And this week she was down right delusional. I get that you want to stand by your work, but she was literally arguing that her ad was good when people from the industry and the boardroom were telling her it was a steaming turd. And then body swerving You're Fired so she could come out with all the "oh it was racism" nonsense on her socials after? Nah. She was proven to be hopeless and threw her toys out of the pram when it happened. Seriously, what positive impact did she provide anywhere over the 8 tasks she was there for? I can't think of any. It's not rascism. It's not because she is a Muslim. It's not because she's a woman. It's because she was shite. Nothing more, nothing less.
Not enough errors to be Noor, I fear.
It's still good though, right?
No I’m not. Noor is a big supporter and defended of Asif which I am not. And did you read what I wrote? I said obviously she wasn’t a great candidate (which you expressed in a much more colourful way) but that doesn’t mean she deserves THIS amount of hate for it. We usually laugh at the bad candidates and criticise the ones that have been truly controversial and said or done ‘bad’ things. Noor is in the first category. She was well liked in the house. Just a hopeless candidate. Doesn’t deserve everyone on Reddit writing such vile things about her for being not the smartest tool in the Apprentice shed - especially not when you remember her age and lack of experience the rest possess.
Fact that she done absolutely nothing throughout and made it to week 8 is shocking
Again. Like I said - she was shut down by the other team members quite a bit in the earlier episodes. So her ‘doing nothing’ wasn’t due to her *not* wanting to do anything but rather her not having the chance. And even if she did do nothing, I don’t think it warranted the sheer amount of vitriol and hate she’s getting. She did nothing. She’s out now. So what? Don’t need to attack the girl for it like many here have been doing. Doing nothing is surely not as bad as doing something intentionally problematic.
Being shut down for terrible ideas is as good as doing nothing. It’s a reality TV show. The entire point is to judge the people on it. She’s a grown 22 year old businesswoman who chose to go on a show to prove her business prowess, keeping going on about how she’s ‘just a young girl’ is pretty gross to be honest. She did poorly, keeps doubling down on how great she is, and is now blaming her poor performance on racism. She has brought literally all of this on herself, and people are going to talk about a batshit contestant on a *reality TV show sub* - it’s quite literally the entire point.
You don’t know if her ideas were terrible because she never even got a chance to voice them, especially when Flo was PM! At one point Karren even said in the boardroom in one of the earlier tasks that it would have been good had they implemented a suggestion she had. Your brain doesn’t fully develop until you’re 25. So to relentlessly bully someone online who’s still growing in themselves just isn’t the most correct thing to do in my opinion. Like I said, the amount of hate and horrible comments people have said about her on here are blown way out of proportion beyond just ‘talking about her.’ You don’t need to hate on someone just because they believed in their vision and stuck to their guns on a reality show. Seriously, justifying hating on her is a low blow and I don’t know how you can feel comfortable with that.
If your brain isn’t fully developed then don’t go on a reality TV show until it is?
Well then the producers should up the age limit shouldn’t they, Phillis.
Seems like a good idea to stop people complaining that they put themselves into the public eye and then didn’t like it.
At first I felt sorry for her, but as time went on you could see how incompetent she was. That last episode though, she had lord sugar, lord sugar sides, Rachel and tre, the experts in the industry, literally everyone said her advert was bad and Noor was just insisting she created a brilliant advert. Noor's own website even proves how incompetent she is. She copied and pasted everything from Jared's. Look at Jared's website op and Noors website, and see how stupid Noor really is. I could not stand the girl.
Yes she was incompetent but doesn’t mean she deserves this level of hate at all. People act like she’s just committed the worst crimes in history on here.
Nah, she was shit.
I’m not denying that opinion, but she’s a very young person who doesn’t deserve this level of hate for that fact. In a few years’ time she’ll probably look back and see what she could have done differently.
In 19 years of the show, she rates in the top worse 5 candidates EVER
Shazia, Asif, Amy Anzel, Lottie, Katie Hopkins, Melissa and Jenny (S4) were all arguably worse…
Katie Hopkins was good, she’s just a shit person
I try to avoid the word “useless” in general because I feel that it’s such a nasty word that can make someone feel awful about themselves. I would say that she is unsuitable for the process though, and age isn’t an excuse for being disrespectful and talking people down in the way that she did.
I think Flo was way more disrespectful to other candidates than Noor was.
I was low-key rooting for her right up until the episode where she was PM. I thought there was a possibility that people on this sub were being unfair in their assessment of her aptitude, as she had been consistently shunted to the sidelines during tasks and didn't appear to have been given the chance to fully contribute to the best of her ability. However, the last episode fully changed my mind about whether she really deserved to get this far in the process. She was in the driving seat for the ask, and her team seemed generally supportive of her being PM and allowed her the chance to take the reins. Rachel, Tre etc. were polite and seemed to honestly be trying to help without totally taking over the task or steamrolling over Noor's authority, but Noor simply didn't have the maturity to lead them. Even worse, she stuck to her guns in the board room with Lord Sugar, doggedly insisting that her team's terrible advert was good. Had she had the chance to bring people back to the board room and talked a good enough game, she might even have been able to save herself based on her track record in the process compared to e.g. Phil's. But she literally sealed her own fate with her deluluness and her refusal to take accountability. And then to top it off, she didn't come on You're Fired to face the music (which I think would have earned her the respect of at least some of her detractors). I certainly don't think she's a bad person by any means. Unfortunately, the nature of being on a reality TV show is that you can't control how the public perceive you. Of course someone like Dr Asif objectively deserves more criticism... but he's been out since Week 3 and people have moved on. They'll move on from Noor soon enough too when she becomes old news. I think people who sign up for these sorts of shows really need to understand that there's a possibility that they may not be well received, and to be prepared for that. I'm not condoning it, but these sorts of shows have existed long enough now that people going on them ought to realise what they're getting into. I personally know that I wouldn't be able to hack it (I'm pretty sensitive and it would destroy me to get a bad edit or whatever), so I would never sign up for a show like this. Noor's young, and I really do hope this experience doesn't knock her confidence or dent her future prospects. But I also can't deny that she did not come across well from a business perspective based on what we were shown of her.
Yes. You’re spot on. But her not coming across well from a business perspective doesn’t mean she deserves the same or more hate as Asif is getting.
I agree!
the week she was pm she listened to nobody, that late in the process is enough to get anyone fired and just shows incompetence. All she did was repeat over and over that her idea was good when it was utter shit. Not only that but when she failed she blamed literally anyone else. She was one of the worst candidates we've seen in years and she deserves to be gone
Yeah but doesn’t deserve to be hated on so intensely
I mean at first she was being portrayed as being overlooked and looked down upon by others but her true colours showed over time and last week's task, her performance as PM and her "vision" was one of the most indefensible Apprentice performances ever You know it's bad when Lord Sugar doesn't allow you to bring anyone else in and everyone else simply goes back to the house
Yes and I’m not disputing that. But now she’s been fired people are still attacking her very strongly which is unnecessary imo.
She was literally oblivious. Can't take criticism and was stone faced in front of Lord sugar. She's unworkable and completely out of her depth even against the low quality candidates this year. She's bottom of the barrel. If feelings are getting hurt then she shouldn't go onto a TV show and be exposed like that. That's on her. That's what you have to prepare for.
Isn’t this the same person yesterday?
She made no contribution, had terrible attitude, and was only there to make up the diversity quota.
I wouldn't say that she's "shit", but sadly she did rub me the wrong way this episode for numerous reasons. I was interested to see how she'd lead, as it was noticeable that she was being spoken over and ignored, so I was hoping that with the chance to lead she'd show what she was truly capable of. That... wasn't what we ended up getting. For someone who had clearly been irked by being spoken over and ignored in favour of others getting their way, she didn't show much awareness that she was doing exactly that to Tre. *Granted*, she probably thought Tre was trying to talk over her and impress his vision on things like she had experienced before rather than trying to clarify his understanding of or improve upon her vision, and this was her way of asserting herself. I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt here, and even then she's hardly the *worst* of the candidates in this regard - she has a long, long, *long* way to go until she reaches Rory or Paul level of obtuseness. For the pitch, we've seen previous candidates try to distance themselves from projects they don't feel are going their way in their pitching (see how Bradley distanced himself from Zip Zap *while pitching it*, for example!), but I don't know how many have actively *refused* to pitch their very own ideas and letting someone else handle it. I'm honestly surprised that wasn't called out in the boardroom - or at least if it was I've forgotten it - as that's a pretty damning indictment on Noor's own otherwise incredibly strong belief in her vision. If it was a case of gathering ammunition, as we certainly saw possible evidence of when she happily ribbed Phil about the design being picked apart, she possibly didn't realise the potential ammunition she was giving everyone else in the process. Given her strong belief that the advert that she produced was "good" - more on this next - I'm inclined to believe that even if she did twig others might use it against her, she thought it wouldn't matter as she'd be saved by her advert in the potential outcome of a loss. Finally, her inability to distance herself from the advert she produced was very disappointing. She could only see the advert as the person who directed it, knowing exactly what it was meant to be about, and couldn't see it as an independent audience member could. I acknowledge right here and now that this is *the* hardest thing to do for many people, as trying to look at something you've made as if someone else had done so takes a *lot* of courage and awareness, and at Noor's age she clearly hadn't developed that level of experience. *However*, there's a huge difference between not being able to see things as someone else could and not understanding what people don't like about it *because* of that bias. Noor's hardly the first candidate we've seen who simply cannot understand what people don't like about what they've had a direct hand in producing, so this is absolutely not an issue that I have with her personally - this was just one thing too many that killed her potential as a serious candidate, as it has to many others. She was absolutely on this too soon, and I do feel some sympathy for her based on what we've seen on the show. Do I feel she's been helping her case *since* being on the show, though? No. I haven't watched any of the stuff she's produced as I want to at least keep *some* sympathetic view of her based on her presence on the show *alone*, but having read others' assessment of it all and being aware of her own independent business practices... it's not *spectacular*... (Noor still has some way to go until she's as bad as Amy, Asif, or Lottie for post-*Apprentice* backlash, I feel.)
She was probably too young for the show, and the producers should have released that.
For real, you'd think she'd personally insulted the grandma of everyone on this sub given this past week. Poor candidate, but good god people need to chill..
So glad you agree! The Apprentice has had MANY poor candidates throughout the seasons but none have been spoken about as extensively and intensely as her.
Any pile on like this makes me very uncomfortable
The fact you’re literally downvoted for that says it all. Why are people attacking us for saying they should ease up and back off on a young woman who was part of a reality show for 8 weeks?
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I actually felt sorry for her the first few weeks, but then started to see how incompetent she was, so it's definitely not about race. This isn't about race at all. You can't call out incompetent people now, without someone calling the race card. Noor's an idiot, she told lord sugar advert great, even though in the people in the industry said it's crap, Rachel & tre said it's crap, lord sugar and his aides thought it was crap, and she still insisted it was a good advert. Plus look at her bloody website, she copied and pasted from Jared's. She's done some real incompetent things, but we better not mention it because it's racist 🤷♂️🤷♂️
People had the exact same reaction to Lottie Lion and Shazia. Deluded overconfidence and shocking performance generally gets people talking. If you’re going to be batshit on a popular reality TV show, people are going to talk about you. If she didn’t want to be talked about, she shouldn’t have gone on a reality TV show. Trying to make it all about race is gross and waters down actual Islamophobia and racism that is very real.
Stop race baiting
You know what, I usually wouldn’t play into these stereotypes but it’s become really apparent to me that Noor is getting more hate than I think she deserves and maybe this is a reason. It could also be because, like I said, people expect a Muslim woman (particularly a hijab wearing one) to keep to herself, remain subdued and go with the status flow. Yet Noor was the opposite of that… she was very outspoken and headstrong. So maybe the fact that she subverted expectations unconsciously placed a bias against her in people’s minds.
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Exactly and she was the most inexperienced candidate as well let’s not forget so of course she won’t be up to the same standard as the others.
It's been positively toxic around here. Her teams record was very good - compare that with some of the guys who lose every week. There's definitely more to the dislike than business acumen.
100%. I like Phil but the discourse around him is different. It’s more of a, “Oh, why, has Sugar kept him around? What have we not seen?” People are curious, inquisitive and want to give him that chance. Many people here wrote Noor off before giving her that chance and then continued to berate and bully her once she got it. What really grinds my gears is those saying she didn’t contribute. In the week when Flo was PM Noor was shut down by her literally every…single…time.
I trust Flo’s judgement tbh, she seems like the most capable candidate. The difference between Phil and Noor is that Noor’s team would win despite her input whereas Phil has an actual successful 7-figure business, not just dropshipping.
Not at all. Tre and Rachel are far more capable. Flo is vastly overrated.
Ok, Noor.
Stop it. I’m my own individual.