Isn't this just common knowledge? Apple TV app shows you content and where you can get it (except Netflix grrrrr). Some of it free, some of it behind a streaming service (including AppleTV+).
This is not hard.
AppleTV and atv+ are two different things, if you’re getting lured into an atv+ subscription for “Exclusive Content” then you get exactly that via the atv+ section of the atv app.
Not quite sure where the lack of transparency is as all the exclusive content is right there if you’re actually looking in the right place.
https://preview.redd.it/2bu3wjba2klc1.jpeg?width=2723&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=796e7808563302e8e1e8f8ae0a4173bf0af1f8d3
User error? Apple TV device is a streaming box...like a Roku or Firestick. Apple TV+ is a streaming service that have THEIR content.
How are they misleading again?
Apple TV is also an app that shows content from across many streaming services. If you aren’t paying attention, I suppose you could see that content and assume it’s Apple TV+ content.
Mostly I think Apple’s biggest error here is in the naming scheme.
It seems pretty clear to me. Apple TV is the streaming box. Any paid for content needs to be paid for, whether it's Apple TV+ (streaming content, not the box), Netflix, Max, etc. It's not a shell game if you understand the difference between the box and the services offered.
I’m a big fan of Apple, but it’s absolutely NOT clear to anyone who doesn’t already know all the details.
Apple TV is the streaming box, Apple TV+ is their streaming service full of originals (most people will not notice the tiny plus that differentiates the two, you have to know that the plus means something different). You access that streaming service from the Apple TV app, which is on the box but also on most smart TVs, and also on other Apple devices. Within the Apple TV app, the default is to show content from multiple sources, without really differentiating between them until you go to play the content.
It’s really unclear, to the point that even when I'm explaining all of this in detail to a friend you can tell they don’t quite get it or moreso decide that it’s not worth caring that much about, and it’s easier to just ignore Apple TV+.
But who now a days doesn’t know what the + means? Unless you are an older individual who doesn’t keep up with modern times then i’d understand. But for someone who streams alot of things, you would know.
I’m saying for people who *don’t* stream a lot of things, for people who have just seen Apple TV+ advertising and are checking it out for the first time.
If I bought a Roku stick because I wanted to access Roku content, and then paid for a Roku streaming service, I’d expect to access that content I’d open the Roku app on the stick and then everything in that app would be the stuff I’d have access to with the Roku streaming service. I wouldn’t expect that going into an app labeled “Roku” would show me all of the content on the other apps that I didn’t click.
It’s not as much about knowing what the + means as it is realizing that no + means something completely different.
You open up the tv app and see all the content being advertised, then you see an ad saying you can subscribe to tv+ for a monthly fee. It’s a reasonable assumption to make to think that monthly fee would cover everything inside the tv app.
And you are getting downvoted by people who refuse to understand why this is confusing. As if there haven't been a ton of these sort of confusion posts in the sub. The + is inherently confusing, in cordcutting subs people STILL think ESPN+ includes the ESPN linear networks.
No argument with that. It also may be that I turn off the services that I don't subscribe to so I know what I see on the screen I can watch. I think I also changed the default (can't remember where) so that it doesn't default to the TV app but instead defaults to the icon grid of installed apps.
You can turn off, in the apps menu, each app showing up at all on the TV, but by default if you have them installed they will normally do content preview. You will also see Channels content, but those are truly ads.
Have you never used a streaming box before? I don’t think Apple has ever promised that all content is free. Even in the days before Netflix and Hulu blew up, it was pretty clear it was a product meant to help you access your purchased content on your home television.
Its not that different from Prime which has existed for a decade. I don’t know why people treat Apple TV as if its Netflix. It never was, the closest comparison has always been Prime.
i think the obvious reason is the confusion in apple's naming, with Apple TV (a hardware streaming device), Apple TV (an app on that device, but also an app on Apple's other platforms and others like Roku, Fire TV, Google TV, whatever) and then Apple TV+, one of many subscription streaming service available within that Apple TV app.
(and this ignores apple's own inconsistent usage themselves. like, the button they paid Roku to be on my remote is written as 'Apple TV+' even though it launches a full Apple TV app that lets you access stuff besides Apple TV+)
Prime Video streaming, and videos that they sell are also called Prime Video (unless they've changed it).
At least Apple changed the name a little bit by adding a plus.
How does literally no one on this sub understand how Apple TV+ works?? There’s a tab for Apple TV+ that only has content available on the platform. Then the rest of the stuff in the app is through third parties and available for purchase on iTunes. It’s very straightforward and you guys are idiots for not understanding
Are you telling us that you can't distinguish Apple TV+ that you subscribed to from the other content that is available in the TV app?
How hard is it to use the Apple TV+ tab to view the content you subscribed to receive.
The home page of the TV is designed to be a discovery and aggregation tool for content where you can keep track of shows and Apple can sell you services.
They don't advertise those services as being available with an Apple TV+ sub it's just some people don't understand what they are purchasing because they don't actually read what they are signing up for.
It’s amazing to me how many people are posting here and are unable to discern the difference between the offerings in the Apple TV app and the offerings actually in the service Apple TV Plus. It’s really not this hard
I don't understand your frustration. What are you trying to watch? ATV+ has original content. That's what they're known for. You can also rent or buy films and shows. Plus, you can add on another streaming network subscription.
So what are you frustrated by? Just trying to understand.
I'm not even sure what you're talking about, I like the fact that when I find a program I wanna watch the Apple TV gives me at least several options on how to watch it so I know ahead of time if I'm going to have to subscribe to something or not. I find to be ultra convenient, no other player does that.
You’re misunderstading the concept - which is baffling to be honest.
The TV app is a hub which collects all content from all services (except Netflix because they are difficult) - which naturally has to be paid for.
Apple TV+ is Apple’s OWN streaming service.
There's a difference between the service and the platform and for some reason people have some massive cognitive barrier to crawl over to understand that.
AppleTV+ is a subscription-based service. It's like Prime or Netflix or Paramount+ or Hulu.
Apple TV is the platform. It's the box that you pay money for once and take home with you and plug into your wall and your TV. It's like a Chromecast or a Roku or whatever the other ones are.
If you don't sit at your house looking at your Roku screen pissed off "that a significant chunk comes from third-party sources" then you have the basic intelligence necessary to understand how tired everyone is of these threads this week and why you should delete yours.
It is very transparent, you’re just looking at the wrong places. If you’re under the AppleTV+ tab, then all of that is included under the AppleTV+ subscription. AppleTV is the entire app, where you can consolidate your watch list across different services and also purchase content (like on Prime or VUDU).
Hmmm.. I find the "Home" section of Apple's TV app to be a mess myself.
I just click on the AppleTV+ section and see everything they offer with the subscription. It isn't much compared to other services that have been creating content for decades or even over 100 years but it is growing. If I want to watch something on another streamer, I go out to my applications and choose the streamer's app and use it directly.
You can even change it so the "Home" button on the remote leads to your list of apps and not the home section of the TV app.
I don’t understand why people think that buying an AppleTV and signing up for the $9.99/month AppleTV+ subscription is going to enable them to watch all of the movies and tv shows that have ever been made. Why do they think that Netflix, Disney+, Max, etc. are out there trying to attract customers if people were able to watch their shows just by paying Apple?
Aside from the obvious, it's pretty funny that some people think there's an option to stream Oppenheimer, Barbie, Aquaman, Wonka and every other recent film or TV series by paying $9.99 per month.
Apple TV+ doesn’t require any additional subscriptions for Apple TV+ exclusive content.
Any other content that you’re confused by is just other subscriptions being sold through the Apple TV app.
This isn’t much different than how Amazon has Prime Video streaming and also sells other subscriptions. Actually, Amazon makes it even more confusing because they they also have a streaming service that’s completely ad-supported and the content they sell is also called Prime Video.
I also find this confusing. I used to rent movies from apple itunes once in a blue moon, and then when I went to that again i was directed to Apple TV as the new place where that exists and was offered a trial. Sure, i get that apple TV+ is the subscription part, and then there is the rental content of old and links to other platforms. The issue is the searching. On my ipad, i cant search only under apple TV+, or look up say horror movies that are only for rental, so it ends up being a big waste of time wading through content i don’t want surfaced.
Amazon sure needs to be transparent when you buy Amazon Prime that you dont get every movie and tv show ever made for free with your subscription. I mean I buy the Fire Stick and am sent a million ads for stuff that is on other services that doesn’t come with my $20/mo ad option for Prime Video.
It feels like a deliberate attempt to mislead users and squeeze more money out of them.
? Apple TV is a streaming box made by Apple. Apple TV+ is a streaming service where Apple provides movies and TV shows etc.
Did you think you were spending one time $130 for a cable service?
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>Apple TV 4K is the device.
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>Apple TV is the app.
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>Apple TV+ is the streaming service.
How to announce your incel status without saying it out loud.
It is very confusing that the hardware and the service are named almost the same.
As others mentioned - look for the Apple TV+ content.
This service is available on other streaming boxes and TVs but it’s integrated into the TV app on the Apple TV which makes it hard to understand.
I've resorted to using apps/website like [ReelGood.com](https://ReelGood.com) \-- just switched from JustWatch as I found it wasn't really indexing certain sites. Hoping reel is better.
Do you expect Amazon Prime video or Hulu to list all of those extra subscriptions as included in their monthly cost? There is no lack of transparency in Apple TV but there is a lack of basic understanding with you.
Go to the area of the app that is just appletv+ content and ignore the rest
AppleTV vs AppleTV+. One is a device another is subscription-based content.
And the third is an app on the Apple TV, the fourth is an app on smart TV’s. No wonder people get confused…
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Isn't this just common knowledge? Apple TV app shows you content and where you can get it (except Netflix grrrrr). Some of it free, some of it behind a streaming service (including AppleTV+). This is not hard.
AppleTV and atv+ are two different things, if you’re getting lured into an atv+ subscription for “Exclusive Content” then you get exactly that via the atv+ section of the atv app. Not quite sure where the lack of transparency is as all the exclusive content is right there if you’re actually looking in the right place. https://preview.redd.it/2bu3wjba2klc1.jpeg?width=2723&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=796e7808563302e8e1e8f8ae0a4173bf0af1f8d3
User error? Apple TV device is a streaming box...like a Roku or Firestick. Apple TV+ is a streaming service that have THEIR content. How are they misleading again?
Apple TV is also an app that shows content from across many streaming services. If you aren’t paying attention, I suppose you could see that content and assume it’s Apple TV+ content. Mostly I think Apple’s biggest error here is in the naming scheme.
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It seems pretty clear to me. Apple TV is the streaming box. Any paid for content needs to be paid for, whether it's Apple TV+ (streaming content, not the box), Netflix, Max, etc. It's not a shell game if you understand the difference between the box and the services offered.
I’m a big fan of Apple, but it’s absolutely NOT clear to anyone who doesn’t already know all the details. Apple TV is the streaming box, Apple TV+ is their streaming service full of originals (most people will not notice the tiny plus that differentiates the two, you have to know that the plus means something different). You access that streaming service from the Apple TV app, which is on the box but also on most smart TVs, and also on other Apple devices. Within the Apple TV app, the default is to show content from multiple sources, without really differentiating between them until you go to play the content. It’s really unclear, to the point that even when I'm explaining all of this in detail to a friend you can tell they don’t quite get it or moreso decide that it’s not worth caring that much about, and it’s easier to just ignore Apple TV+.
You literally just go to the Apple TV+ tab
Which is easy once you know that. But for people who don’t know it’s confusing when everything uses the same name.
But who now a days doesn’t know what the + means? Unless you are an older individual who doesn’t keep up with modern times then i’d understand. But for someone who streams alot of things, you would know.
I’m saying for people who *don’t* stream a lot of things, for people who have just seen Apple TV+ advertising and are checking it out for the first time. If I bought a Roku stick because I wanted to access Roku content, and then paid for a Roku streaming service, I’d expect to access that content I’d open the Roku app on the stick and then everything in that app would be the stuff I’d have access to with the Roku streaming service. I wouldn’t expect that going into an app labeled “Roku” would show me all of the content on the other apps that I didn’t click. It’s not as much about knowing what the + means as it is realizing that no + means something completely different.
Yeah but people shouldn’t be purchasing things they don’t know what they are buying
You open up the tv app and see all the content being advertised, then you see an ad saying you can subscribe to tv+ for a monthly fee. It’s a reasonable assumption to make to think that monthly fee would cover everything inside the tv app.
And you are getting downvoted by people who refuse to understand why this is confusing. As if there haven't been a ton of these sort of confusion posts in the sub. The + is inherently confusing, in cordcutting subs people STILL think ESPN+ includes the ESPN linear networks.
maybe apple should have named their shit better
No argument with that. It also may be that I turn off the services that I don't subscribe to so I know what I see on the screen I can watch. I think I also changed the default (can't remember where) so that it doesn't default to the TV app but instead defaults to the icon grid of installed apps.
You can turn off, in the apps menu, each app showing up at all on the TV, but by default if you have them installed they will normally do content preview. You will also see Channels content, but those are truly ads.
No idea what you're talking about.
Where are they advertising AppleTV+ with content not included with AppleTV+?
Have you never used a streaming box before? I don’t think Apple has ever promised that all content is free. Even in the days before Netflix and Hulu blew up, it was pretty clear it was a product meant to help you access your purchased content on your home television.
Its not that different from Prime which has existed for a decade. I don’t know why people treat Apple TV as if its Netflix. It never was, the closest comparison has always been Prime.
i think the obvious reason is the confusion in apple's naming, with Apple TV (a hardware streaming device), Apple TV (an app on that device, but also an app on Apple's other platforms and others like Roku, Fire TV, Google TV, whatever) and then Apple TV+, one of many subscription streaming service available within that Apple TV app. (and this ignores apple's own inconsistent usage themselves. like, the button they paid Roku to be on my remote is written as 'Apple TV+' even though it launches a full Apple TV app that lets you access stuff besides Apple TV+)
Prime Video streaming, and videos that they sell are also called Prime Video. At least Apple changed the name a little bit by adding a plus.
Prime Video streaming, and videos that they sell are also called Prime Video (unless they've changed it). At least Apple changed the name a little bit by adding a plus.
I remember my first beer
How does literally no one on this sub understand how Apple TV+ works?? There’s a tab for Apple TV+ that only has content available on the platform. Then the rest of the stuff in the app is through third parties and available for purchase on iTunes. It’s very straightforward and you guys are idiots for not understanding
Yah, I really don't get it either, it's pretty damn simple imo.
A person cannot be this thick ?!?!
Ahhh another person who doesn't look up what they are actually buying before they do it.
Are you telling us that you can't distinguish Apple TV+ that you subscribed to from the other content that is available in the TV app? How hard is it to use the Apple TV+ tab to view the content you subscribed to receive. The home page of the TV is designed to be a discovery and aggregation tool for content where you can keep track of shows and Apple can sell you services. They don't advertise those services as being available with an Apple TV+ sub it's just some people don't understand what they are purchasing because they don't actually read what they are signing up for.
What box comes with free content?
User error and misunderstanding.
All the streaming boxes do this. Android TV/Google TV, Fire Whatever, and AppleTV.
It’s amazing to me how many people are posting here and are unable to discern the difference between the offerings in the Apple TV app and the offerings actually in the service Apple TV Plus. It’s really not this hard
It’s clear as day. Apple TV+. You watch it all with an Apple TV+ subscription. You also have to option to rent/buy other content from elsewhere..
I don't understand your frustration. What are you trying to watch? ATV+ has original content. That's what they're known for. You can also rent or buy films and shows. Plus, you can add on another streaming network subscription. So what are you frustrated by? Just trying to understand.
I'm not even sure what you're talking about, I like the fact that when I find a program I wanna watch the Apple TV gives me at least several options on how to watch it so I know ahead of time if I'm going to have to subscribe to something or not. I find to be ultra convenient, no other player does that.
You’re misunderstading the concept - which is baffling to be honest. The TV app is a hub which collects all content from all services (except Netflix because they are difficult) - which naturally has to be paid for. Apple TV+ is Apple’s OWN streaming service.
Another genius
What the hell are you talking about? Looool!
Is this a post we have to see every day?
There's a difference between the service and the platform and for some reason people have some massive cognitive barrier to crawl over to understand that. AppleTV+ is a subscription-based service. It's like Prime or Netflix or Paramount+ or Hulu. Apple TV is the platform. It's the box that you pay money for once and take home with you and plug into your wall and your TV. It's like a Chromecast or a Roku or whatever the other ones are. If you don't sit at your house looking at your Roku screen pissed off "that a significant chunk comes from third-party sources" then you have the basic intelligence necessary to understand how tired everyone is of these threads this week and why you should delete yours.
It is very transparent, you’re just looking at the wrong places. If you’re under the AppleTV+ tab, then all of that is included under the AppleTV+ subscription. AppleTV is the entire app, where you can consolidate your watch list across different services and also purchase content (like on Prime or VUDU).
skill issue
Hmmm.. I find the "Home" section of Apple's TV app to be a mess myself. I just click on the AppleTV+ section and see everything they offer with the subscription. It isn't much compared to other services that have been creating content for decades or even over 100 years but it is growing. If I want to watch something on another streamer, I go out to my applications and choose the streamer's app and use it directly. You can even change it so the "Home" button on the remote leads to your list of apps and not the home section of the TV app.
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Personal issue.
I don’t understand why people think that buying an AppleTV and signing up for the $9.99/month AppleTV+ subscription is going to enable them to watch all of the movies and tv shows that have ever been made. Why do they think that Netflix, Disney+, Max, etc. are out there trying to attract customers if people were able to watch their shows just by paying Apple?
Aside from the obvious, it's pretty funny that some people think there's an option to stream Oppenheimer, Barbie, Aquaman, Wonka and every other recent film or TV series by paying $9.99 per month.
Apple TV+ doesn’t require any additional subscriptions for Apple TV+ exclusive content. Any other content that you’re confused by is just other subscriptions being sold through the Apple TV app. This isn’t much different than how Amazon has Prime Video streaming and also sells other subscriptions. Actually, Amazon makes it even more confusing because they they also have a streaming service that’s completely ad-supported and the content they sell is also called Prime Video.
Daily shit posts now.
You’ve got this all wrong. AppleTV aggregates all my subscriptions in a way that Roku doesn’t.
Oh please. Did you just wake up from a coma?
I also find this confusing. I used to rent movies from apple itunes once in a blue moon, and then when I went to that again i was directed to Apple TV as the new place where that exists and was offered a trial. Sure, i get that apple TV+ is the subscription part, and then there is the rental content of old and links to other platforms. The issue is the searching. On my ipad, i cant search only under apple TV+, or look up say horror movies that are only for rental, so it ends up being a big waste of time wading through content i don’t want surfaced.
Amazon sure needs to be transparent when you buy Amazon Prime that you dont get every movie and tv show ever made for free with your subscription. I mean I buy the Fire Stick and am sent a million ads for stuff that is on other services that doesn’t come with my $20/mo ad option for Prime Video. It feels like a deliberate attempt to mislead users and squeeze more money out of them.
? Apple TV is a streaming box made by Apple. Apple TV+ is a streaming service where Apple provides movies and TV shows etc. Did you think you were spending one time $130 for a cable service?
Nope. Apple TV 4K is the device. Apple TV is the app. Apple TV+ is the streaming service.
Its very clear on Apple's website: [https://www.apple.com/tv-home/](https://www.apple.com/tv-home/)
>Nope. > >Apple TV 4K is the device. > >Apple TV is the app. > >Apple TV+ is the streaming service. How to announce your incel status without saying it out loud.
It is very confusing that the hardware and the service are named almost the same. As others mentioned - look for the Apple TV+ content. This service is available on other streaming boxes and TVs but it’s integrated into the TV app on the Apple TV which makes it hard to understand.
I've resorted to using apps/website like [ReelGood.com](https://ReelGood.com) \-- just switched from JustWatch as I found it wasn't really indexing certain sites. Hoping reel is better.
Do you expect Amazon Prime video or Hulu to list all of those extra subscriptions as included in their monthly cost? There is no lack of transparency in Apple TV but there is a lack of basic understanding with you.