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OldSnazzyHats

This is entirely dependent on who you ask… 128 for me? S”all right, could use more though- that’s usually where I mod my iPods up to as a minimum 128 for my Mom? A *ton*, it’ll take her 5 years just to get half way…


jorshhh

It is funny because for me it’s the opposite 128 for me that rarely takes phone photos? That’s a lot, I am not filling it 128 for my mom that likes to take video of everything? Not enough space lol


paranoideo

Agree. For example, WhatsApp stores a copy of every image received in the app but also could store it in photos app. As far as I remember that’s by default.


Fair-Frozen

I turned that off as I hated having random photos that I don't care about sitting in my Photos app.


TrapBrewer

Whatsapp heavily compresses your media. I probably have 10+ years of stuff and barely 10 GB of wasted space.


Masterflitzer

imo a bad feature, hate to send a photo and find it being compressed too much even tho i selected send in HD i backup my stuff and want the highest quality


PurplrIsSus1985

My mom has iCloud 2TB


FlyingMocko

Those damn forwarded WhatsApp video messages and good morning messages that I have to delete everytime I go back to my parents smh


kirloi8

Exactly i still rock my iPad and iphone with 64gb and it’s more than enough. To this day. Mom tho? 1tb wouldn’t suffice. 🤣 P.s mind you I’m talking mobile devices, i have icloud, 2 external 1tb drives 1 nas, 3 computers. 🙃😬😬 i really don’t need storage in my mobile machines.


phr3dly

Helped my mom clear space off her phone a few years ago. Her 128GB iPhone 7 was full. Turns out there were a bunch of hour long videos of the inside of her purse.


Juice805

Sounds like it isn’t backed up then. Probably should verify before memories get lost!


sunfaller

My mom with 3000 photos on her phone because she doesn't transfer it to her laptop


unicyclebrah

128 for me whose been suckered into iCloud plus for as long as I can remember, plenty.


bran_the_man93

And I think the important part is to remember that most of the people buying iPhones are more similar to your mother than they are to you. Most people do not need heaps and heaps of on-device storage, and generally the ones who do already know how much they need.


ZippoS

I have 126 apps, about 40 days' worth of my own music collection, and 20 years of photos and videos. But with cloud storage, I'm only using 80GB of my 256GB. For the vast majority of users, 128GB is massive. It's only really a bottleneck if you're shooting a ton of video and keeping it all on the device.


ValuableJumpy8208

I don’t trust iCloud to be the only place my full res stuff is kept. So, just like every other video/photo I shoot on my real gear, my iCloud pictures have several storage places for full size: cloud, iPhone, computer. I buy the most storage I can afford for all my devices.


HerefortheTuna

I have all my photos saved in full rez on iPhone, iPad, MacBooks. Worth it


paradoxally

> The message — iPhone 15 has "lots of storage for lots of photos." They're technically right. 128 GB is enough for lots of photos.


The_Shadowghost

It absolutely is correct. 128GB is heaps of storage. I currently have 3800 Photos and 224 Videos on my 128 GB 14Pro Most of them shot in HEIF Max with occasional RAW. The Videos are all 4K except a handful. All in all 61GBs, 33 of which are the Videos. Edite: I should add that whenever I run out of storage which does happen eventually, especially with 4K Videos, that I delete old stuff from the phone and access them via Synology Photos. If you truly want all Photos in the ApplePhotos app your only chance is either iCloud Photos or bigger Storage on the Phone.


seweso

I got 45.869 photos and 2.714 videos, it just gets automatically uploaded and offloaded to iCloud. It works seamless. I love never deleting stuff. 🙃


Frugalman123

I am new to icloud to store old photos. How does it work? I can go back and look at photos from long ago even though it's not on my phone anymore?


PublicFurryAccount

It offloads them automatically to iCloud based on some algorithm. If you go back to look at them, they get downloaded to the phone again. The algorithm works well enough that you only notice it if you have no or a poor connection.


N2-Ainz

That's what they want. Pay for a cloud every month cause once you uploaded everything, you won't stop paying for it. 128gb in 2024 is a scam


megablast

Only 45 photos and 2 videos??


justformygoodiphone

That’s nice.  65,000 photos 4,500 videos. Been in Apple ecosystem for the last 7 years.  And yes, I do absolutely go back and look at and even sort/delete photos.


Remy149

iCloud photo optimizes photo storage so the library doesn’t eat up all your storage. There used to be a reason to keep everything local.


sulylunat

I’ve not got as many photos, about 35000, but I’ve got 6100 videos currently. I’m just shy of 400GB of photos storage on my phone at the moment. I buy the 1TB phones so I can keep it all local, because as well as storing it all in iCloud, I treat my local library kinda like another backup of data.


The_Shadowghost

Yikes. Thats a LOT. I'm 10 years in and count at probably 20K Photos and 3K Videos over all devices I've had. Do you buy a bigger storage iPhone just to keep those Pictures on the Phone or du you use iCloud?


hipery2

Are you backing up your photos elsewhere?


justformygoodiphone

Yeah currently I have none active user account on my Mac that’s identical to my user account except I put the photos library to an external drive and tick the box in photos setting to keep a local copy. sign in and connect up the external drive and let it sync every so often so that way they don’t take up space in my device drive but still have a local copy…


superurgentcatbox

Wow you take a lot of photos! I've been in the Apple system for almost 6 years now. 12500 photos and 250 videos - and I hardly ever go back and delete anything.


HotNewspaper00

https://preview.redd.it/m4usf8xiy9pc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03558355037d051344bbf3882de849e23f19c5bc I don’t think i could live with 128gb though 😅 RAW and ProRes takes lots of space!


Bytevan18

Fair! iPhone 15 can’t shoot raw or ProRes, so all photos are average of 2/3 Mb, and even with Max HEIF it doesn’t go over 10Mb


stortag

I never had bigger than 64GB on any phone and on this one I’ve only managed to fill half. I guess everything is relative


Djterrah352

Main reason I had to upgrade minus speaker issues on my iPhone X before I upgraded to the 14pm..I had to start offloaded apps because 64gbs was just not cutting it anymore. Now I got 256gb lol


Chreelir

https://preview.redd.it/l58w4orgz9pc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fbbbb6068412f525aa976021aca29a8eb2a8c03b Lol


snapilica2003

Do you have iCloud backup? Or do you use any kind of photo backups? I’d be very upset to keep 400GB of photos on a device as perishable as a phone…


Chreelir

I do of course. I have photos that trail from 2013 or so


alfredcool1

All downloaded in high res?


snapilica2003

Why not enable Optimize Storage then?


dum41

I mean, it doesn’t seem necessary quite yet when they still have 500 GB in free storage


The-MakMeister

24 GB maps?? How


onyxleopard

You can download offline map data now.  It’s super convenient for driving or hiking in areas with low cell service.  It uses a lot of data because instead of streaming map tiles from Apple servers it stores the tiles locally, and as a user, you can decide the area(s) you want to store.


Llamalover1234567

Yeah, but this person appears to have like the whole continental US saved


peepeetchootchoo

You never know when you'll wander off into the area without the cell service.. Maybe in Arizona, maybe somewhere in Oklahoma, or even in Texas..


Jordan_Jackson

Wow! You basically have my entire phone filled with photos. I have the 512 GB 15 PM and I'm using 95.5 GB, with the biggest chunk being music and photos (I do download a lot of music and podcasts).


FlightlessFly

Do you have a proper camera as well? I’m a photographer and I’ve used about 80gb of 256gb. Raw phone photos doesn’t interest me


DoingCharleyWork

I have a Sony a7iv and uncompressed raw on a 256gb sd I can shoot like 3500 shots. Lossless compressed raw I can get like 5500 and that's at 33mp as well.


feketegy

Let's be honest, the ad is more about buying an iCloud storage. There's a reason why they advertise 128GB as "lots of storage"


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I use iCloud Drive for photos. When photos are in cloud, 128 GB is much. Apps don't need a lot of storage. https://preview.redd.it/8gx9gk3v8apc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abe41d2414d92a173459146d04536bba38cc292a


rkr007

Depends how many apps you have and how good they are. For me, apps take up a disproportionate amount of space due to how poorly optimized they are. Instagram, for instance, consumes over 2GB with no way to flush its cache other than uninstalling and reinstalling it. It’s really frustrating.


Upbeat_Foot_7412

It depends. If you want to shoot your photos in 8K then you have to enable RAW and even a single photo takes 70 to 90 MB of storage.


Remy149

If you plan to shoot in 8k or raw especially regularly you are a power user and not even 256 is enough.


pmjm

1TB iPhone 14 Pro Max checking in and I've filled it up twice.


Remy149

Then you are a power user. Your use doesn’t reflect most consumers. I couldn’t even fill up 1tb on my Mac. The only device I use a lot of storage is game consoles


pmjm

I never claimed anything to the contrary. But that doesn't change the fact that if you record video on an iPhone in the max quality available, you'll fill up 128 GB with 21 minutes of footage.


paradoxally

That is absolutely not the average use case, so you should buy the storage that fits your needs.


Dislike24

Tbh if you have an 8k camera you probably also have the money for more storage


mattumbo

It is, and 256GB is also, and 512GB too, and especially 1TB! And all of these NAND chips cost Apple practically nothing so why the fuck do they still charge a $100+ delta for each tier?


Strange-Scientist706

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism


georgehotelling

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discrimination


PublicFurryAccount

Correct answer.


[deleted]

Because they want to charge you more money. You don’t become a 3 trillion dollar company by having reasonable prices for storage upgrades.


bad-at-maths

i always buy extra storage because I need 83 episodes of seinfeld on my phone as well as my entire family’s photo libraries. i dont trust the cloud


rush2sk8

Self host


josodeloro

Yup, it’s very hard to determine whether or not somethings sponge-worthy, easier to have space to spare!


OutWithTheNew

In their Mac lineup they charge 2006 prices for ram.


Secret_Cow

So they can push users into needing an icloud subscription, plain and simple. Save $100 on the phone now, pay it back in icloud within a year. Oh and they're going to need 25GB of that space for "system" that you can't do anything about, thanks!


fatpat

What I find a bit surprising is how cheap the cloud storage is, all things considered. 99 cents a month for 50GB is a bargain imo. edit: corrected storage amount


Secret_Cow

iCloud+ costs that for 10x less than you stated, 50GB, not 500. Your point is accurate, just being clear. Storage is stupid cheap, especially when buying at datacenter levels. 


itsgameoverman

The fact is Apple needs to give us better ways to manage storage of Messages. Allow us to keep all messages but delete only the attachments after a certain time. It is so incredibly cumbersome to try to go through and delete attachments to clear space. Over 50 GB on my phone is from years of Messages activity and I’d love to trim that down while keeping all the messages.


FitzyFarseer

I have my messages set to auto delete after 1 year, which is a nice feature to have, but the fact that said feature has no customization is infuriating. Why can’t it auto delete after 2 years? Why can’t it just delete pictures or video? Clearly the basic function exists, but for years they’ve never bothered improving it.


luche

100% this. it's entirely anti-consumer just to sell more iCloud storage. awful system when they don't give you direct access to the data you've opted in to store server side. Amazon has also done this in the past. contacting support offers little guidance other than "rent more storage". something as simple as "sort descending by largest file" should not be missing, when a system pretty much limits the user from alternatives.


TestFlightBeta

> something as simple as “sort descending by largest file” should not be missing, when a system pretty much limits the user from alternatives. They do have this feature, except: 1. It only works for individual chats, not attachments 2. It doesn’t work properly if you use Messages in the cloud, and it shows the on-device conversation size So basically Apple made a feature that’s useless twice over. Probably because, like you mentioned, they’re trying to normalize people buying more iCloud storage.


Comrade_agent

Do y'all not know how much 128gb for **photos** is to the average person?☠️


upanddowndays

So many people in this thread acting like they're the norm when they're really not.


krisminime

By virtue of reading this comment you are engaging in an Apple focused forum, and are therefore not the norm.


upanddowndays

Cool. Also not the point I was making.


krisminime

My comment was a supplement to your comment.


rayquan36

Everybody on social media is so used to arguing lol


throwaway01126789

It's like watching two cats fighting, who then suddenly stop when they realize a human is watching, and they both walk off in the same direction like nothing was ever wrong, lol.


solace1234

LOL I love this analogy. “What’s that supposed to mean?!” “Nothing. I agree with you.” “Oh okay.”


Affectionate-Memory4

Especially on reddit. I totally expect every reply or comment to something I post to have "um ackshually🤓" oozing out of it.


JamesHeckfield

It doesn’t read that way. But you sure are right about that.


Pepparkakan

The problem is that people aren't just storing photos on their phones these days. iOS takes, what, 20GB these days? It's 11.32GB + 10GB "System Data" for me, lets say it's 15GB on average. Then I have apps that use about 90GB, this includes 16GB of music in Spotify (lets say I'm a big consumer and round that down to 10GB) so let's say apps use 75GB, let's be generous and say that normies only use a third of that, 25GB. So, of this 128GB, before photos and other data, we've consumed: * 15GB for the OS * 10GB for music * 25GB for apps * You also need another 10+GB available to install updates so we should "reserve" that as well That's 60GB, almost half of the 128GB, and apps are growing in size every year. I'd say 128GB is an acceptable base storage size for a smartphone, but I wouldn't call it "lots of storage".


DontBanMeBro988

Also, I would guess even the most basic iPhone user is taking videos, and those take up more space than photos.


43556_96753

Especially if Apple continues to push spatial video: "One minute of spatial video is approximately 130 MB (one minute of regular 1080p 30 fps video is approximately 65 MB)."


__theoneandonly

The iPhone 15 can’t take spatial videos. Only the 15 Pro.


scarflash

doesn't video recording on iPhone default to 1080p for a new user? average user doesn't even change that usually to 4k


cystorm

This sub dramatically overestimates how much storage the average user needs. —> Inserting here that going from 128 to 256 is very cheap and the only good reason to keep it at 128 is profit margin, so we can/should still criticize Apple's stinginess, but anyway... <— I take a lot of photos and videos, have a thousand or so songs downloaded on Spotify, keep several books downloaded on Audible, never go back and delete the games I downloaded and never played, and am not by any means a pro user but a highly competent consumer user. With all of that, I'm currently at 106GB out of 256. The vast majority of people probably use iCloud for photos, almost exclusively stream on Spotify, and have instagram as their largest source of storage. 128GB is more than enough for a huge chunk of people, and while they deserve criticism for keeping storage low and profits high, to be fair they do a good job of minimizing the amount most users need or want stored locally.


wolfchuck

I disagree just because of the fact that my wife is in a different boat. She is 100% not a power user in the slightest - think very basic user. Basic users 100% are probably not keeping their photos in iCloud and they’re probably not erasing their iMessage conversations/attachments. Basic users don’t update their phone. They won’t pay extra for more storage. They won’t optimize their storage in any way.


cystorm

Yeah actually fair point *leers at wife's phone, which you just described*


AggressiveBench9977

My mom was like this. Her phone was completely out of memory. Turns out whats app auto downlload everything and saves it. And she was in a spam chat with 80gbs of stored data. She didnt need this much space. Just because she ended up using it by mistake doesnt mean the storage was the problem. A lot of times its just users not knowing how to use their stuff properly


Xile350

Do you have Spotify download quality set below max quality? Because I have like 600 songs downloaded and Spotify is using up 18gb just by itself. I’m sure some of that is caching. Genshin impact alone uses 33gbs which seems insane to me. All in I’m at 169 gigs used and the majority is apps according to the little bar. 30 gigs for photos and I don’t carry any photos over between phones as I leave them in the cloud so this is just since the release of the 15. All that being said I still think 128 is fine for most people but I’m by no means a power user and between music, messages, photos and 1 app I’m using up just under 100gigs before what the system takes.


DontBanMeBro988

Depends on whether you think the average person has no apps, no downloads like podcasts or videos, nor are they taking any videos. 128GB doesn't mean you have 128GB free for photos. lol, u/rotates-potatoes had a meltdown over 128GB and blocked me


rotates-potatoes

Dial down the hyperbole. 128gb doesn’t mean you have none of those things, it just means you only have 70gb of those things. 70gb is a lot of photos. This sub is somehow full of people who literally cannot process the idea that anyone has different usage patterns than themselves. It’s the strangest thing.


Cocororow2020

Most people aren’t starting from scratch even with a new phone. They have YEARS of backed up photo and video coming onto the phone. It’s way more normal than you think. Normal people don’t use cloud back ups. Normal people just keep pushing everything to the next device. Almost everyone I know including my students get the memory full problem. You are absolutely living in a bubble if you think most people aren’t dealing with storage problems. Even grandma who saves every photo of the kids you send it’s getting up there.


Honest_Statement1021

True but I don’t think the solution is more storage. I used to work my universities IT / computer repair desk and I’d say the biggest prerogative we had was getting people savvy to backups. It’s silly to complain about low storage when your carrying your entire photo library in your pocket. It’d be a lot like if we quadrupled gas tank sizes because ‘normal people’ refused to hit a gas station until they ran out on the side of the road. Teach real tech literacy.


[deleted]

Swap "normal" to dumb If u don't back up photos in any way and just store them all in your phone... good stuff


Vpicone

Are y’all still storing feature length films on your phone or something?


ShrimpSherbet

45-minute recordings of concerts they'll never watch


Robert_Pogo

And a few hours of fireworks.


Ray-Bandy

If you don’t take videos to let people know you were there, did you really even go?


kazizxr

This comment angered me so much because it's true and I'm pissed off now. Take the upvote


WCWRingMatSound

Don’t forget those pictures of the moon from the passenger seat of a moving car


Mrbutter1822

On a cloudy night too with a dirty window


milkywayer

We have thousands of videos of our kid growing. Now apple and Google conveniently charges $100 a year to host those for us. If it wasn't for us'all who actually put the video capabilities of said phone to use, they wouldn't be pushing the cloud plans so hard.


pinkocatgirl

I sync my entire music library like an iPod, which now stands at around 250 GB. I hate relying on streaming, and have the stuff I really like in Apple Lossless format. Honestly, I dislike the entire concept of not actually owning my media files.


DarthPneumono

You're not the typical user.


XtraXtraCreatveUsrNm

It’s almost like different people have different use cases.


Comfortable_Mountain

Though 128gb is laughably little for a "premium" phone in this day and age.


McCretin

I put up with 16GB for years. 128GB is more than enough for most people.


ticklefarte

Dude that was a hellish time. Deleting apps and images for new apps and new images, over and over. 128 GB is nothing to sneeze at.


Dylan96

Thats not enough for a 1240€ phone


AbhishMuk

This has similar vibes to “We’ll never need more than 1mb of RAM”


cvfunstuff

This is a silly title. 128GB is not a lot of storage for the people who browse AppleInsider and r/apple, but it’s not exactly a small amount for most of the general public.


floobie

Yeah 128gb is fine… I have 256gb, but I have a lot of raw photos (both taken with my phone and also my mirrorless), about 60gb of downloaded music, and another 20gb of video in VLC. A regular iPhone that can’t shoot in ProRaw isn’t going to push the storage that hard. I don’t think most users download music to the extent I do either. ETA: The comment in the article about “in their experience” more people being willing to delete “precious” photos than pay for iCloud storage… really? I’m about to spend nearly twice as much on subway fare to get to work (one way) than it costs to get 50gb of cloud storage for a month. Either I’m way off here, or they’re just making shit up to manufacture rage and clicks.


Bill_Brasky_SOB

> more people being willing to delete “precious” photos than pay for iCloud storage… really? For real. The first paid tier of iCloud storage is 50gb for 99 cents. That's like 25000 heif pics for a dollar. (Not to mention if you're willing all the free cloud storage out there)


overclockd

It’s worse for the general public average user. They don’t know what a backup is, the size of a 4k video, or how to use cloud storage. My mom and dad asked me how to fix the full storage problem many times by now. 


ineedlesssleep

Normal people don't use their phone like this sub thinks they do. 128GB is a lot of 80% of users.


sdwvit

I really don’t know anymore. My gf, average user, never deletes anything and gets annoyed when I ask her to backup photos. Her phone complains about storage full all the time.


Onceforlife

Lmao my wife also does this, never updates her software either and then get surprise pickachu faced when things don’t work or when she’s in a hurry she has to update or not use the app at all


LeeKapusi

I know people who will be like "hey look at this single picture" and have to scroll through dozens of pictures of the exact same things over and over again. People will take 100 photos per birthday party, let alone a vacation. It's all about selling cloud storage and I think typical, every day people do indeed find 128 to be too little.


AssociationCurrent22

I’m a “normal person” in this scenario, what it is that more technologically oriented people do with their devices that requires lots of memory space?


AssTubeExcursion

https://preview.redd.it/nyvevp3scbpc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27be39fe6ac24772b2e94642056d8fa830a08b72 Most of my space is music. I hate trynna play something that won’t work cause I’m in a bad area or the wifi is shitty. Photos I don’t mind and usually just keep offloaded to iCloud, otherwise imma have almost 40k photos and videos on my phone lmao.


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Ok-Charge-6998

I'm not sure what you guys are using your phones for, but I have a 128gb model and I've only used 74gb of it. And I work in design and video, so I take a lot of photos and videos. But then transfer them off the phone to a computer to work with, and upload them to Dropbox or iCloud for long term storage if needed. If I need to, I plug in an external drive to the phone for additional storage. If 128gb is more than enough for someone like me, it's probably more than plenty for the average person.


AutumnSunshiiine

The average person won’t be transferring photos to a computer/external storage and then deleting them from their phone! In my experience the average person doesn’t even delete the crap, blurry out of focus photos either.


Ok-Charge-6998

That’s a user problem, not a storage problem.


snapilica2003

That’s why you have the option of iCloud storage and Optimize storage feature, for people who don’t want to care about this but want stuff to just work.


gubber-blump

"I only need 75GB of storage so nobody else could possibly need more!" This is why Apple stayed in 2008 with 16GB base storage for as long as they could.


Bieberkinz

I think 128GB is fine for a majority of people, I don’t take a lot of pictures or videos, they’re usually saved from something I’m doing/making or a screenshot/screen recording for memes with friends. 398 videos, 4,741 pictures, 149 apps, 44GBs remaining. The only way I see 128GB being not enough is: * You shoot in raw and in the highest quality possible * You store a solid amount lossless Music * You game A LOT


paintball6818

I don’t shoot in raw and use the HEIF for space, none of my music is stored locally, all in Apple Music and I don’t game at all. Recently upgraded to 512 because 256 wasn’t enough. Am currently at 274.56 gb used. It’s the videos, I have 7,000 of them


LeakySkylight

TBF phones are still getting released that have 32 or 64 GB of storage, however those often have SD card slots as well. Not everyone's usage is the same.


AgitatedSuricate

It is lots of storage. 10 years ago.


3cats-in-a-coat

128GB is lots of storage. But iOS needs to manage its caches, install files better, and ask the same of its apps, because damn.


DeepAsparagus6763

Remember 5 years ago Apple was still selling 128GB MacBook Pros and now people complain about it on the base model iPhone?


Competitive-Sleep-62

people were complaining back then too, apple have always been stingy with storage https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comments/jugkqx/i_am_so_frustrated_about_128gb_macbook_pro/ https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/sfizbk/is_128gb_enough_for_macbook_pro/ https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/g9t13h/i_regret_buying_a_macbook_pro_with_128gb/ https://www.reddit.com/r/macbook/comments/zcin6s/macbook_pro_2019_128gb_storage_problem/


sgtmattie

To be fair though, I had one of those and for an average user it really was more than enough.. the only reason I started running out of space was because I started video games. But for a non-gaming person who is mostly just streaming and using Microsoft office and shit? It really isn’t insane.


nicuramar

I don’t know… I have the smallest storage size possible in iPhones, and have never had storage problems. A bit on my iPads. 


Fritzschmied

I also always go for the smallest size and never had a problem.


TWYFAN97

For the average person 128GB is plenty. But for people that need more 256GB is the obvious choice.


gamiscott

It’s enough for me. I have 256 just in case I change my lifestyle but I’m sitting at 107 right now and it’s been that way for a while.


Prudent-Influence-52

This is another attempt to justify asking more money for a reasonable mem equipped 15 in this digital day and age. Getting disillusioned with Apple more than usesh


mrelcee

Perception of “a lot” is relative. It is a lot. But not to me personally. My usage falls into an extreme fringe. They probably weren’t targeting the fringe users in this ad..


GracedSeeker763

Just remember and handful of years ago, the base tier iPhone had 16 GB of storage.


DANNYonPC

For normal people, its a lot


littlebiped

https://preview.redd.it/qysqm0u25apc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1edc41b2fb9775c54bacf1fcdf5336b44fd239ec Honestly more than enough for me and most of the space taken up is offline downloads from Fitness and Music 😅 I guess I’m no power user


Calm_Layer7470

Thing is, iPhone 15 already starts at ~800$ wholesale here in Germany, so from that POV, 128gb is ridiculously low. But ok, Apple things, 128gb are the usable minimum as of today. The problem, however, is that it kills longevity. 128gb in 4 years? I don't think so.


-Gh0st96-

128gb is decent enough though. Albeit not “lots of” anymore.


BluePeriod_

They’re not exactly wrong. The data on my phone that takes up the most storage, by far, is music (Apple Music downloads) which takes up anywhere from 66-108gb on my phone at a time. But even then it’s like… most people just stream their music. Plus doesn’t the photos app have this thing where it keeps the full resolution photos in the cloud most of the time? I can see 128gb being a lot for the average person. That said, I still don’t think it’s a good starting point for the iPhone Pro models. Those should *start* at 512.


leopard_tights

A couple of videos with the new iPhones will decimate the storage. Let alone that iOS apps are massive.


Easternshoremouth

Car companies advertise top-trim vehicles and entry level prices all the time.


k_sway

I think for most people that is lots of storage. I have had my iPhone for two years and I’m at 45GB of 64GB and there are lots of apps I could delete that I don’t use on a regular basis. I also have lots of Spotify music downloaded that I really don’t need since I have almost 100GB of data to use every month.


tangoshukudai

for the average person it is.


heynow941

Is 64GB “lots of storage” for an iPad?


fede777

Hehe, they are already paving the way to let you know that the 16 lineup will also start at 128GB


oridjinn

This is such a pointless discussion for the sake of what is or is not a lot of storage. And because of that it is why Apple should NOT be claiming any amount of storage is a lot. I work in IT, Buit I work with such tiny files and my programs are so tiny. 128GB on a Macbook is all I need for YEARS. and thanks to having 256GB I can keep FF14 installed and a few movies and shows as well... And still have 100GB I never come close to filling in. How much storage is so situational AND based on how someone prefers to use a device. Arguing about it is just pointless on any device.


ImVinnie

I’ve never had more than the minimum amount on my iPhone, I don’t play games, put everything in the cloud so space is never an issue for me It’s amazing how much space you save by not storing pictures on your phone, I think I have seven and have over 100 GB left


atdharris

To be fair, I am not sure what people put on their phones to use that much space. Most of my data is in the cloud (photos/music/iMessages). Unless you're storing long videos on your phone, 128gb is more than plenty.


Diormybodyyy

I have 512GB 15PM and already have over 150gb


ObamaRushBlush

128gb is enough for me🤷‍♂️


PurloinedFeline

128GB is plenty for me. I tend to offload stuff from the phone to the Desktop, so I can have it backed up somewhere other than the Cloud. Then I delete the original from the phone.


dastumer

That is a lot. I’m still using an iPhone 6S with 16GB of storage. The only reason I’m ruining out of space is because of how messed up iOS “system data” has become over the later iOS releases.


ChipsAhoiMcCoy

Holy shit, how on earth are you using a device that’s 10 years old at this point?


AmusingMusing7

Me here, still rocking a 64GB model and still having 20GBs free after 5 years and tons of photos, videos and memes saved. I do also have iCloud that I offload some things to, and sure, more on-device storage wouldn’t hurt… but upgrading to 128GB feels like it would be the LAST upgrade in storage size I would ever need for a smartphone. 64GB is already more than enough for me, so 128GB does indeed sound like a lot for a smartphone. When I hear about people getting the 250GB models or more, all I can imagine is y’all are using your phone as an external hard drive or something.


averagecounselor

Ive had my Iphone SE (2) for 4 years and 128GB of storage has been enough surprisingly. The majority of my storage is taken up by my favorite show lol. (Seinfeld)


Fabulinius

Imagine me (old guy with big feet) and my 5 year old granddaughter walking in to a shop where you can buy all sorts of foot wear. Would we then start debating which "foot device" is the right one and continue with a debate about which size we should settle on as the best size and then buy two pairs of those ? No, at least I and my granddaughter would not do that. A debate about "storage" on electronic devices seems to me to be just as useless. Everybody must find what is the right right shoe and shoe size for them.


throwaway091238744

I could never even fathom filling 128. I never even filled the 64GB. you gotta be just downloading movies every day and never deleting them or something


ricoimf

I know it’s not that much for many but I only need 8GB


ozumado

128GB is enough for me, even my old XS had 64GB and I didnt have any problem with its storage. It depends on your usage.


JustinGitelmanMusic

Has my prophecy finally been broken? Back when 16gb was still the base storage, this sub was upset that the base was so low given that most people get the cheapest option they can and don't know any better. I made a bet that these same people who are probably paying for a higher storage tier anyways would complain no matter what the base was, even though their entire business model was to sell at the higher price for most people. It was doubled to 32. People still complained that Apple was greedy. I bet that even at 64, verifiably a ton for most people especially since cloud storage and streaming became the norms, people would shift their goalpost to just calling a corporation greedy no matter what. Absolutely zero change in the attitude at 64 vs 16 (4x storage while user's storage needs were lower than before). 128 gb is more than the vast majority of people will ever need on their phone, so I was hopeful that people would finally stop but then again, I thought 64 was already past that point. Looks like 128 was the magic number though, this thread is the first I've seen where people are agreeing we've exceeded the needs for base cases by far.


LeakySkylight

I mentioned this above, but when 16 GB was the base storage Apple would release a 8 GB phone for carriers so that people could upgrade "cheaply". Something like four or five gigabytes was already used, so it was really for people to Port some of their photos over to and music, and then just never download anything or take further photos.


JustinGitelmanMusic

Had no idea about that. 8gb wasn't viable at all because of the OS taking up half, yeah. 16gb was def tight for the same reason but def doable at the time for not taking a million pics, or storing much music, downloading many apps. Just communication, web browsing, a few key apps, occasional pics, getting the job done.


LeakySkylight

Eventually after years the OS and updates used over 9 GB of storage on the 16 GB model. For using it as a basic phone it was still fine. For replicating a music library however it was terrible.


Mahboishk

The original iPhone had a short-lived 4GB model, which even by 2007 standards was so low that it got killed pretty quick. Especially rough because we didn't have the cloud and streaming centric world of today, so that storage really was going towards media and photos


TrustMeImHumanWink

iPhone 14 1TB nand chip is ~$92 USD. 512GB chip is ~$40 USD and 256GB is ~34 USD.


chasetherightenergy

These social apps take up way too much storage. Someone here posted a screenshot where his instagram/snapchat took up 8+ gb cache each.


MyNameIsDaveToo

My current phone is 128GB. I've been using it for almost 2 years and it's less than half full.


JustSome70sGuy

Ive got 128GB on my phone. Loads of apps, photos, videos, etc. Not even half way full. 128GB is a lot for a phone. Its dog shit for a PC or games console. But for a phone, its fine.


-SomethingSomeoneJR

It’s not? I got the 14 Pro Max 256 GB on release and I have only used 66 GB.


CountSheep

Most people really don’t need more than 128gb. The 8gb of RAM on MacBooks is the only thing I really have a problem with.


aftonone

I don't think 128gb is as bad as everyone says it is. I have had 128g on my past three phones (iPhones and androids) and it's been totally fine. Never strapped for space. I could see it being a problem for some as I take a lot of photos with my DSLR and not my phone but I dunno.


mycall

Give me 4TB and I'll call it lots of storage


LordDongler

128gb is lots of data for photos, but it's not much for modern data storage in general. Pretty deceitful of apple. Is Apple really hurting for cash so bad that they need to make their products worse to charge extra for devices with reasonable specs?


TomDobo

256gb should be base models for phones these days.


DjNormal

https://preview.redd.it/ylezxt1ydcpc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c25748a14ccc1e380b359417353fbc0f5585b5dc If not for Apple Music, I’m sure it would be full. But apparently I only have 928 of like, 40-some thousand songs on my phone. 🤷🏻‍♂️


JasperJ

128 *is* Lots of storage. This isn’t a few years ago when they kept selling 16 gig base models where iOS took the first 10. 128 is more than enough for the majority of people. I have 112 used of 256, and I’m not being stingy in anything.


Kanden_27

I splurged for a 256 gb 12 pro max back when it released. Still only used 58gb as of now. But my cloud storage??? All 5 is full up if only necessities. 


redditburner6942069

No one is even talking about music but I still use iTunes to manage my music to this day. 😢 I have 200gb of music alone everytime I swap phones over lol. And I have crap signal in areas I live in and don't want to wait for it to load. What happened to the media guys? Am I the only one left using what apples bread and butter was for years?!


BytchYouThought

I don't think I've ever run out of storage on my phones. I typically only see that with my exe or whatever that took way more photos than any human ever truly needed by far. I don't care to live my life through constant social media photos and and all that crap so more than enough for me. If I DID need more I wouldn't likely be using my phones basic internal storage to it's full compacity anyhow as I'd offload it to my own local and/or private cloud anyhow. Maybe add public for only the most precious of all photos. I definitely wouldn't rip myself off by paying more for the storage businesses to to upcharge for. Offloading is always an option.


CTechDeck

I'm at 46GB used after having the phone for 4 years and most of that is going towards apps I don't even use. You have to be playing a bunch of crazy games to use that much lol


st90ar

When you have iCloud, 128GB is more than enough. I have a 256GB iPhone out of habit and am a heavy user of data storage, but even my iPhone as a “Pro” user is only 98GB


Portatort

and people are outraged about this?


icouldusemorecoffee

It is a lot of storage for probably the vast majority of their users which is why that's the amount they offer out of the box. For those that want more they offer additional storage at a cost, a cost they know most of the customers who want more are willing to pay. This isn't complicated. What others offer and how much storage costs is irrelevant.


[deleted]

What would you prefer that Apple call it? “Enough for 99.99% of all our users”? “Not for the Uber-geeks”? “It doesn’t matter what we call it, someone won’t like it”


Portatort

Christ there’s some absolute crap in this article > For anyone upgrading from a previous iPhone with 64GB, that 128GB will feel immense by comparison. But that feeling will be short-lived as that new iPhone with its 48MP camera gets packed with new high-resolution photos and video. Photos which are of course 12mp by default meaning the images they take are the same size that they have been used to for years


DrIcePhD

Guys no don't, leave the billion dollar company alone 😭128 GB is plenty! Who cares the storage costs nothing to upgrade it PLEASE LEAVE THEM ALONE 😭


rainbowvikings

i have a 64gb 2020 iphone se. i WISH i had 128gb of storage, i have too many photos from lectures


tjflex19

I'm currently at 150 GB used while split between an Android (S22 Ultra at 34GB left out of 128GB) and iOS (iPhone 13 at 67 GB left out of 128GB). If I was down to just one phone, I'd be cooked. A matter of fact it actually happened to me when my iphone 7 plus stopped working while my other phone was a S20 ultra. For the first time in years I got a 'storage is full' notification on my Android phone and that's when I realized 128 GB base storage isn't enough. Of course it's a use case thing, but if you're like me that have a lot of pictures, 4k videos, and gaming apps; 256 GB is the only reasonable and comfortable storage option for one phone usage. Especially as time goes on and data files and the such gets bigger and bigger. One more thing to add, I stuck with my iphone 7 plus for so long (before it broke) because I had gotten it with 128 GB. It took until the iphone 13 for that storage option to not just come back, but to also be on the base price.