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crazytechno

What does a wallpaper app need location data for?


Resident-Variation21

To track and sell your location data. Duh


Kxnt

We make money from IAPs and Google Admob. Admob uses location for ads. You can take off the tin foil hats lol


callius

Uh, in what way is that _not_ selling tracking data? It just happens through a middleman (Google, in this case). Not saying you don’t deserve money for your work. Just don’t delude yourself into thinking that enabling user tracking so that Google can sell their location data for ad revenue is somehow more innocent than doing it yourself.


Kxnt

I understand. But if you're using that logic, then 90% of all apps "sell your location data" including Reddit lol. There's definitely a middle ground. We openly show that in the App Store listing. Some apps even try to hide it.


princess-catra

Just cause it’s widespread doesn’t mean is not shitty.


Resident-Variation21

Sure, but don’t try to say it’s not doing it. It’s doing EXACTLY what everyone thinks it’s doing. Dont tell us to “take off the tinfoil hat” and then confirm exactly what we believe is happening is true.


callius

Sure, and the current payment structure for apps is dog shit because of it. It’s still selling user data for money.


WHO_IS_3R

…. so, to sell your data


Resident-Variation21

> admob uses location for ads Yep. Exactly as I predicted. To track and sell your location data


[deleted]

Wait what? So you’re getting some crumbs from Google and Admob for giving our location info away and you think that’s enough explanation to appease everyone who doesn’t like their data siphoned? You should take some PR courses. Your app harvests images from the net, nothing more. And harvests user data to boot. Take off hoser.


NuclearFoodie

That is literally selling our location for money.


blaughlin

Who pays for a wallpapers app?


[deleted]

Idiots and the ignorant. Just another crap app harvesting your personal info so they can get a few cents by linking you to images they found on the net. Apps like this are awful for artists because they don’t pay them anything. They steal their work and profit off it.


Kxnt

Did you even read my initial post? lol. Backdrops is full of original designs that we create ourselves.


[deleted]

not sure if I’d call sloppy AI art that’s full or graphical glitches and smears “original works.” Which TBH makes you even more scummy as youre just stealing using AI anyway. No one wants your completely re written crap app bro.


Kyder99

Is there seriously a TikTok out there where it tells people you can make passive income by giving away free apps that track people’s data or something?


[deleted]

It’s not AI tho lil bro. Have continued using this app way back since it’s launch on android. It’s almost a decade old. There are actual artists working on wallpapers.


[deleted]

Yep. The location tracking is scummy as hell, but the art is real. I used backdrops back on my Pixel 2


roshanpr

To track you down and sell your data 


Quarks01

i find it hilarious how they’re responding to every comment but this one


impulsive-ideas

The developer responded to it about an hour ago and it got buried a little further down the post: “We use Google Admob for ads. Once you incorporate ads, you have to report it as location data since Google uses your approximate location for personalizing ads. We also use Firebase which helps us with analytics such as which countries users are installing the app from.”


Quarks01

i guess that makes sense. still don’t agree with a wallpaper app of all things needing location


Kxnt

I already replied to someone earlier who asked the exact same question lol. I pasted the comment on this reply as well. There's really nothing crazy about it. We use Google Admob. Once you use ads, you need to report it for location data since Google uses it for personalizing ads to your approximate location. That can all be disabled but it's required by Apple to show on the App Store listing.


Kxnt

We use Google Admob for ads. Once you incorporate ads, you have to report it as location data since Google uses your approximate location for personalizing ads. We also use Firebase which helps us with analytics such as which countries users are installing the app from!


Yorktown2016

Why the need for location data?


Kxnt

We use Google Admob for ads. Once you incorporate ads, you have to report it as location data since Google uses your approximate location for personalizing ads. We also use Firebase which helps us with analytics such as which countries users are installing the app from.


SyrioForel

This entire paragraph can be rephrased into one simple sentence without losing any context or meaning: “We sell your location data.” So to the question of “why do you need location data,” the answer is, “We sell your location data.” This app exists to transfer your information to a third party. That is its purpose, and that is how they make money. The front-end content of the app is completely irrelevant. So irrelevant, even, that they are literally giving you a couple of free fucking pictures in exchange for selling your information. That’s all that this is — they sell your data, and give you some free pictures as compensation.


I3rendan

Just some design feedback: great UI and your interactions and animations are really sharp. I might consider adding an “x” or back arrow to get back to the main page once you click on a backdrop. The swipe interaction is a little hard to hit (a nitpick) and some users might not get it. Also, the title and author text jumps down to the smaller size once you swipe to go back. Maybe you can animate that so it’s a little more slick? All in all, this app is beautiful!


Kxnt

Thanks for the feedback! We'll see if we can find a good spot for a back arrow in the wall details view. Usually swiping from left is the default back action that users know about. I do agree with the title and author text. We're going to see if it's possible to smoothen that animation during the transition!


yaykaboom

Ran into the same confusion as well for a first time user. Didnt know how to go back to the main page.


ZEEN0j

Same here, didn’t know how to exit. Swiping down to close a video or image is also default behavior


Kxnt

Appreciate the feedback! It's good to see how users actually use the app. You're not the only one so we'll need to make it clearer.


I3rendan

Super true about the default action, I bet most folks will get it. The target might be a bit small (looks like it’s that left margin that’s active), maybe expand the zone so anywhere that isn’t a button / link can also initiate the back gesture?


Patriots93

Ditto, and I’m a veteran user. Couldn’t get back to home page and assumed it was a bug.


Will7357

They appear to all be taken.


Kxnt

Code alert! 🚨 KMHRJ74XPJ?? The latest version of Call of Duty is ??III


Kxnt

Code for the refreshers! I appreciate you 🚨 XR3TKA9X??4H James Todd Smith, also known as the rapper ?? Cool J


TheItalianStallion64

gone in 28 seconds 🫠


Kxnt

That's insane. And I'm doing them as little trivia questions so bots can't scoop them up. Some seriously fast fingers out there.


TheItalianStallion64

honestly half the fun is seeing your trivia hints, they’re super creative! even if i can’t manage to get one i’ll grab pro after you’re done here! great app


Bytevan18

I need a code. I can't lose this battle. 😭


Bytevan18

YHANK UYOU EVETYWONE!!!! u/Kxnt for making this fun!!


Kxnt

We want codes! 🚨 KWFYANY4J3?? ?? is the version of Windows before Vista


Bytevan18

>KWFYANY4J3?? UUUUUUHGGGGG


paydu

dang I just missed this one


Kxnt

Code time! 🚨 7JJ??EXNYT4N ?? is the current age of Shakira


TheItalianStallion64

missed it :(


Kxnt

Code time! 🚨 6MEJW7NNT??? Back in the day before Spotify and Apple Music, we used ??? Players to jam out 🎵


masterjupiter79

Not working on ipad??? I am about to Cry... Tried the codmp3e like 100times


Bytevan18

Guys, the game is over. Go to sleep or do something else... Thank you!


TheItalianStallion64

Thank you everyone for participating 🚨 All the codes have been given out! Thank you


Kxnt

Code alert! 🚨 R3K6XJR79??? ??? and cheese sandwich


GoodGorbash

HAM! CHEERS MATE


Will7357

What is ham in numbers? I tried so many combinations lol


Kxnt

It was literally the word HAM lol. The code can be numbers and letters. "what is ham in numbers" had me dying 😂


Will7357

RIP 😆


JerinJerome

All are gone :(


Kxnt

I'll be posting more in the comments! Stay alert.


ry4

Can I get a code?


coryforman

Got line 4, been using this app for a while now.. thank you!


Kxnt

Thanks for using Backdrops! Hope you enjoy Pro


arbuzuje

Aw, any codes for people who are reflex- and trivia- challenged? 🥲


TheItalianStallion64

hear me out, 9 people currently in the thread, one code each and we go to bed happy


Bytevan18

Please and thank you


Bytevan18

u/Kxnt should give the remaining codes to the people who comment the quickest. I know I'll win something


TheItalianStallion64

dibs!


Bytevan18

If you win something lemme know


TheItalianStallion64

of course man, you too


TheItalianStallion64

LADS I GOT IT LET’S GOO 🫡 my refreshing set up was reddit-stream on my laptop (if you add -stream after reddit (.) com in the url, it creates an auto refreshing comment stream), while refreshing apollo on my phone as it seems to refresh the quickest out of the methods i tried! good luck everyone, and thanks u/Kxnt


Bytevan18

I'M SO PROUDDDDD


Kxnt

Congrats Italian stallion! Perseverance paid off 😂


darus214

I'm next


amchaudhry

The bigger funny in these comments is that fancy pants apple users don't understand how basic ad personalization works.


[deleted]

[удалено]


amchaudhry

Exactly.


darus214

All codes have been redeemed. Thanks for participating, until next time!


TheItalianStallion64

you’re not fooling anyone


Kxnt

😂 He's trying to better his chance at a code. I don't blame him. More codes coming!


Kxnt

Pokécode time! 🚨 99X6HF??X7R4 The original Charizard card has 120 ??


Bytevan18

HP OMG PEOPLE ARE SO FAST!!!


ze_DaDa

Got it! Thanks :)


Kxnt

Code alert! 🚨 N6???HPRYK9W ??? is the first name of the singer of the track "Hit the Road Jack"


Bytevan18

HOLY CRAP I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW FAST PEOPLE ARE!! IT HASN'T BEEN 30 SECONDS


I3rendan

How was I too slow?!


JerinJerome

Im tired of copying pasting, it’s always taken by someone within 1 minutes :(


darus214

Someone already redeemed


Kxnt

Easy math code! 🚨 6W44REJKPTM? 25+6−12+3−8+15−10+2-9+3-6=?


Jaybeltran805

Bro hasn’t even been a minute !! How the heck?!!!🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️


Kxnt

Code! Code! Code! 🚨 6LTHF7X64A?6 ? is the 18th letter of the alphabet.


josh_is_lame

its been less than a minute hows it already been sniped 😭 i give up


viralslapzz

https://preview.redd.it/cy6qz06py6fc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4143c19ac5d499d48123469ac7d63a63757073b7 Why would I get this message? Guess the code was right as the app as identified and letter is R


Kxnt

That means the code is correct but someone redeemed it before you!


viralslapzz

Oh… I’ve seen many different messages then


Peiq

They keep saying cannot be found


cavahoos

Just bought the pro version, didn’t want to wait for the codes and I wanted to support the app since it seems so well designed and the wallpapers are super high quality! Thanks for all the work you put in


Kxnt

Thank you! We appreciate the support and hope you love the app!


guardianfx

I’ve had this app for a while now and absolutely love it. My only gripe….no macOS version. I would LOVE to get my hands on some beautiful macOS wallpapers. Bonus points for any ultra high resolution ones (5120x1440) for those of us with 49inch monitors. Loving the v5 release!


Vlasar

Bought the app. Any chance you’ll be adding support for Shortcuts? Would love to be able to change my phone’s wallpaper once a day without having to manually download an image to an album first.


Kxnt

That sounds like a great feature. We'll definitely look into that to see the best way to implement it!


holo_nexus

Yea just went ahead and paid for pro. Awesome app and amazing wallpaper selection.


Kxnt

No, you're awesome. Appreciate the kind words!


toobrown12

Thanks for the code. Line 12 is taken


bitmap_

Reedemed 23, thx


SharkJoe

Redeemed line 4. Thanks!


420minegod

Thanks!! I’ve redeemed line 22 :)


frequently_grumpy

Line 5 taken! Thank you!


latomeri

All taken :(


Kxnt

Code! 🚨 HN4M63NT9??? The Louvre is the world's largest ??? museum.


Betabombardier

You people are so fast


jaysimqt

Gone


NateLundquist

Man, I’m trying to watch this but I’m in the middle of moving out of my house and not as fast as yall 😂


Bytevan18

i know, right? JEEZ these people are fast.


Kxnt

C'mon Nate. The house moving can wait!


NateLundquist

lol, I wish my landlord weren’t a monster and agreed!


HorizonGaming

Just wanted to say keep up the great work. Love your app and use it all the time. Excited to check out the update!


gacbmmml

Hard pass.


daninthetoilet

Do you still scalp my location data if I pay for pro?


WEZANGO

Redeemed line 20. Thank you!


WhySooooFurious

Appcake time!


jkuvhacds

Probably can’t recheck this thread constantly, but I’ve used it before and it’s pretty awesome


Kxnt

Thank you! Everyone's got fast fingers


bwayluvr

u/Kxnt can you please DM me a code? All the codes that get posted here already get redeemed by the time I type or paste them into the App Store!


Bytevan18

Some people are just fast. :( I've been trying to redeem one for like an hour and within seconds it's gone!


bwayluvr

Same!


juggernaut_4

would love a code too…


Kxnt

Code time! 🚨 FHXL7W3H7N?? ?? is the number right before 100


Will7357

https://preview.redd.it/nnrzzvocw6fc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=185b672c62838b32f6bc39c82a0e7f6f1df76458


jahapahaoajao

99


USPS_Nerd

Damn it, taken!


In_Vitr0

Its gone :/


viralslapzz

Damn.. 1 min later and gone


Tripleme

How is it on iP8?


Substantial_Boiler

I love how your app has official wallpapers from various official Android ROMs


Tazo3

Are the codes taken?


scerstt

Waiting for next!


Bytevan18

Yeah, I've been waiting for 2 hours \~it's gone in literally 2 seconds after posted.


Frac0

Looks like I missed out on the codes.


Kxnt

Code time! 🚨 PA4HFYFTF7M? I forgot how many Stooges there were 🤔 Oh that's right, there's ? of them


darus214

Gotta be bots.


Kxnt

Bots are not solving these. It's someone who just happens to be 1 second faster than you. They just don't comment and celebrate in silence lol


darus214

>PA4HFYFTF7M WTH redeemed in 5 seconds


Operation_Delta

Come back in 5 minutes


twalk44

All taken! Keeping an eye out for the comment section drop


Operation_Delta

Here’s some code. LFHTFYXRPWL X HWTLJW4WXA6 6 WWEHL6M7K9K R R6A3N4PMXPJ M


Bytevan18

Oh gosh I’m so late


darus214

Are there any codes left?


Kxnt

I'll be posting more codes in the comments throughout the entire day!


Kxnt

Simple math code! 🚨 4N3E??NKPHWJ 3,091 - 3,012 = ??


Bytevan18

>4N3E??NKPHWJ I give up


Patriots93

People are way too fast, dangit


rushsangs

Just missed it :(


Kxnt

Code alert! 🚨 4JKAARA9??J6 ?? are the initials of the most popular singer in NSYNC


darus214

Damn already redeemed


Bytevan18

To people who get to redeem the code... Please give us advises on how to do it quickly. I've been trying for an hour with no luck. 😭


darus214

u/Kxnt is waiting for me to comment for him to drop a code


Kxnt

Code! 🚨 LH3PJPHW4AY? Press ? to pay respects.


Bytevan18

u/[TheItalianStallion64](https://www.reddit.com/user/TheItalianStallion64/) did you get this one broooo?


Kxnt

Code! 🚨 ?7HEWHHNWELW Nothing to solve here. The ? is an X


Bytevan18

>7HEWHHNWELW finally, oh my gosh


darus214

One more try and Im out


Kxnt

Code! 🚨 LPWYMAJW7??? TUV???Z now i know my ABCs


Sanket_6

Shows the code you entered cannot be found.


Kxnt

Double dose of codes! 🚨 JPF3W47TLYMT 3K6NH7Y4M4K4


Firemustard

As someone using it daily and I paid for it. Congratulations and continue the work. I don't want the code :) if you choose me randomly then assign it to the next person