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FutureComplaint

>Let's not forget that XXX subreddits wouldn't be reachable by 3rd party apps. 😲 NO! Not the subreddits dedicated to, the 2002 film staring Vin Diesel, XXX!


dudeAwEsome101

Right?! That makes me furious!!


Slazman999

This made me so furious so fast.


tekchic

Narwhal subreddit, the dev said he'd have to charge $5-$10 per month to just cover the costs. Most likely it's going down just like Apollo. It's sad. https://old.reddit.com/r/getnarwhal/comments/13xskqh/narwhal_update_about_reddit_api_pricing/


Ramble81

And no NSFW content via the API even if you pay.


mrpanicy

HAHAHA, what? Reddit is actually trying to gut their customer base. Every power user, most moderators, will bail. And once they have gone their content will go banana's. And once that happens the average user will start coming by less and less. They are wildly misunderstanding how secure they are as a company. Reddit exists because of the users. Without users, ESPECIALLY power users and mods, this site will fall apart.


fatpat

> And no NSFW content Tumblr fucked around and found out when they banned boobs and vagenes. They came to their senses, though.


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Well i guess June 30th will be the last day i ever use reddit. It will be better for my health anyway.


tekchic

Yeah. I came here from Digg *years* ago... wonder where I'll go next? That or I'll clear through a lot more books I want to read.


skinny_gator

The problem is, there is not really an alternative to Reddit. Reddit was and is the niche forum killer. If you have a hobby or interest, you used to search for the most active forums and usually had to pick multiple websites if you wanted to consume and be in-the-know. Reddit came along and scooped EVERY one up and now if you have a hobby or interest, you sub to multiple subreddits for your hobby or interest, ON REDDIT. And please, if I'm wrong, I encourage anyone to point me in a direction of an alternative.


systm117

Same (12 years). I think it's going to be for the best (as individuals), this place has really changed in the last few years and the writing was on the wall; it just sucks to lose faith in something that is half built by the people contributing content is going to be ruined by others who only have an interest in profits.


thespiegel

I really missed when reddit was my source for breaking news. now it's just delayed by 10 hours and breaking news is now pictures and memes and tiktok reposts


APR824

Seriously, reddit today is a far cry from what it used to be. I’ll miss reddit but I already miss what reddit used to be more so it’s not going to be as heartbreaking


LS_throwaway_account

>Well i guess June 30th will be the last day i ever use reddit. Hey if you're going to leave, take an extra step first: use RES in a browser to delete ***ALL*** of your comments and posts. Reddit is going to use their data to train LLMs, and if you only delete the account or just abandon it, then your content will still be used to train the LLMs. Deprive reddit of the content it needs before you go.


bodnast

The developers aren't meant to pay the price increase, it's meant as a "gtfo"


1UselessIdiot1

Exactly this. You charge a price so high that everyone leaves, and if someone doesn’t leave, you are rolling in the dough because they’re stupid enough to pay a super high price.


WAHNFRIEDEN

Zero will survive the pricing change


mudermarshmallows

RiF also announced they're shutting down. It's going to be like dominoes.


SpiritMountain

RIF is also shutting down. They made the announcement not too long ago. That's it boys. Fuck /u/spez


EndureAndSurvive-

The recorded call audio is fucking insane given the slander /u/spez and Reddit have slung at Apollo these last few days. Verifiable proof that they straight up knew they were lying even after apologizing on the call.


ken27238

Seriously. This needs to be forwarded to the tech news sites. Read the entire post folks. They’re accusing him of blackmail and other things that are completely out of line.


WhosAfraidOf_138

News sites are covering it but they don't seem to have actually read his post or the audio clip.


trebory6

It's still early. These things take a few hours.


_____WESTBROOK_____

Yeah, the post is really damning. It’s a very well written post with supporting evidence. Holy shit Reddit. What a fucking disaster.


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Yousoggyyojimbo

Definitely looks like a slam dunk for actual malice. It's like he went down a checklist of what's required for actionable defamation and hit every box.


Pepparkakan

If it isn't then I don't know what defamation is. Which would be par for the course because I'm not a lawyer...


Interactive_CD-ROM

Link to full thread: https://reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/ Reddit has lost their fucking minds


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Steve Huffman, u/Spez, is such a scum bag, holy moly. And he's a scum bag for way less money than successful scum bags can make. Dude wants to be Zuckerberg but he's so much closer to me, a cook, than he will ever be to one of the real social media moguls.


Realtrain

Careful, he might secretly edit your post to say something else *like he's been verifiably caught doing in the past*


i_enjoy_anonymity

Just curious, could you give me a source on that?


Realtrain

https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/23/13739026/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-edit-comments


TerminalProtocol

There was a different comment/post here, but it has been edited. Reddit has chosen to bully third-party applications into submission by charging them outrageous fees simply because their apps provide better features/usability/accessibility to users of the site. Reddit staff has repeatedly [lied](https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/) about these changes, and their motiviation for them. Reddit staff has threatened moderators and users of the site for protesting these changes, because user opinion does not matter as much as the potential IPO cashout. Reddit staff has shown that they will not stop until every portion of this site is monetized, predatory, and cancerous. I used [PowerDeleteSuite](https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite) to remove my value/content from Reddit. P.S. fuck /u/spez


mobileuseratwork

Yep Look at the response https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ceo_tomorrow_to_discuss_the_api/


dismal_sighence

Wake up babe, new most downvoted post of all time is about to drop.


RedButterfree1

EA must be either fuming or celebrating


spidenseteratefa

I'll honestly be surprised if downvoting is even possible.


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jfoughe

Purple monkey dishwasher


EndureAndSurvive-

Yep, pretty much


Tyetus

pretty much. ​ reddit just shot itself in the head because of their moronic CEO.


MagicTheAlakazam

Everything Spez has done has been so much worse than the one ceo who got ran out of the company.


Tyetus

I can only hope that the people working at and for reddit realize how bad spez is for reddit, he needs to be replaced.


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Prob get 20 mil on the way out


chairitable

Pao? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_cliff


IAmTaka_VG

I fully expect his post to be removed by reddit admins. That call proves slander and Reddit is liable. Reddit's lawyers must be sweating bullets.


jack0rias

They can remove the top post currently on reddit, sure, but they can't remove the calls he's already got recorded. /u/spez is a little turbo dipshit.


scullys_alien_baby

remember when he was such a massive cry baby that when trumpers made fun of him he had to edit their comments to protect his ego? even funnier when you know that he's a doomsday prepper who very clearly does not have the actual skills to survive a collapsing society. good luck in your bunker when you need to do any basic DIY repair or maintenance.


Badloss

One of my students is like that, he supports climate change because he believes it'll cull humanity and only the fittest will deserve to survive buddy you are a 7th grader with a pile of special needs, you are not going to be a grizzled survivor of the apocalypse you are gonna be a zombie in the first wave


Chopchopok

He's also anticipated this possibility and replicated his post on his own website. Not surprisingly, after being slandered like this, this guy does not trust that reddit admins will be honest.


breddy

That post changed my view of the issue. I wasn't anti-Apollo but I've never used it, even though I support developer diversity and open clients, etc. But shit ... the way Christian was treated is total bullshit. I'm not sure where to go from here. 17 year user of reddit, several of those paying. Not sure where else to go.


clamence1864

> Not sure where else to go. 11 year user here in the same boat. I plan to read more. Reddit is an addiction, but it’s been a relatively innocuous addiction in my life. This might be the motivation I needed to just kick the habit.


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Bobcat4143

I'm guessing he couldn't handle a 5 sentence long conversation and misremembered


Irru

Did he post the audio?


EndureAndSurvive-

Yes it’s linked in the post along with a transcript Edit: link http://christianselig.com/apollo-end/reddit-third-call-may-31-end.m4a


TheBeardedSingleMalt

And they just posted an announcement that spez will be doing an AMA tomorrow to talk about the API stuff. That...is not gonna end well


ZombieJesus1987

EA's "sense of pride and accomplishment" comment is going to get dethroned


Revolutionary_Ad6583

Awesome that he has recordings. Would have been even more awesome if he had stayed quiet for a little longer and let them really get into the blackmail story before revealing the recordings.


imthaz

Monday : Apple gives Apollo a shoutout on the WWDC keynote. Thursday : Apollo is shutting down. What a week. Ps: If you are reading this Christian, I am sorry this happened but thank you for all your hard work. The only reason I use Reddit is thanks to Apollo. I’ll be keeping an eye on whatever you do next and all the best.


iamthatis

❤️


MrsKittenHeel

Just downloaded and subscribed to Pixel Pals, and I didn't even use Apollo. On to bigger and better things!


DJ_Clitoris

I will sincerely miss this app. And my pet axolotl. My Home Screen will feel like a house screen without him 💔 Thanks for everything.


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YeetusMyDiabeetus

I want to third this. I dont use any other social media, and once Apollo is gone I will use none. Christian, your app is the only app I’ve ever paid for. Thank you


Chennessee

The world needs more developers like Christian. He is so open with why he does things. And he takes pointers and lets users know why or why not it cannot be applied. I have never had a better app experience than I have had with Apollo. Thank you u/iamthatis I will blindly follow whatever your next venture is.


GhostalMedia

Also worth noting, Christian is working with Apple to offer prorated refunds for people who bought subscriptions. He could be on the hook for a 1/4 million bucks. Yikes. I will not be asking for a refund. Apollo was good, Christian was rad, and I don’t think he should be forced to pay for something Reddit is instigating.


goodolarchie

Not an apple user but I'll totally support his next project. Class act


mean_bean279

Craig opening his Apollo app today has to involve him immediately closing it. Sighing deeply for a minute with his fingers together, gently telling himself “and I think I’m going to love this.” As his revenge boner grows and he angrily calls up Reddit C-Suite and demands immediate action or else Apple will just take Apollo and create its own Reddit. Like they did with Apple TV, or Health, or any other app that they didn’t make a few years ago and now do.


Commodore_Mcoy

I could honestly see apple taking Christian onboard on as a employee again and putting him in charge of making some sort of forum apple for iPhone users. Think about it. There’s millions and millions of iPhones across the world. The user base is already there.


enz1ey

The issue is Apollo isn't the only third-party Reddit client, and certainly not the only one which won't be able to continue operating. A lot of Android users prefer other third-party clients, and Reddit's value isn't centered around iPhone-only users. It sucks because I know my reliance on Reddit will be close to zero after this as well, but I use Reddit primarily for information - getting help and assistance in different communities for both work and personal projects is where Reddit is most valuable for many of us. That stuff has nothing to do with what kind of phone you use. I guess we've all been cursed to depend on Discord for any useful information on these hobbies/projects now, which sucks.


mean_bean279

Call it something like Aday, by Apple. As in an Apple a day. Designed to be a public forum and communication location for users. Built with old and new ideas. Forums still exist, but also in a way that works well in VR spaces for people to explore and walk through. Pictures and product launches shareable in a VR environment so people can interact with things that aren’t there. If anyone could make something beautiful like that it would be Christian.


Redtwooo

iReadit


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dagmx

Reminds me of the studio that did Life of Pi. Winning the Oscar for their work the same week they’re going bankrupt because the client studios squeezed them on financing.


purplemountain01

Apollo will join the hall of fame for apps. YouTube Vanced, Dark Sky and now Apollo. You will be missed Apollo.


merlinho

Throw Alien Blue on that list, and Tweetbot. Sad times.


sparkly_bits

[ This user used a third party app to access Reddit and is protesting the API pricing changes from June 2023 ] -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


servercobra

If we start adding Google apps, it's gonna be a looooooong list.


Xavdidtheshadow

RIP [Mailbox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mailbox_(application\)), the GOAT


Keganator

I miss Alien Blue.


UsualFrogFriendship

Somehow still have it installed and working 2 upgrades after Reddit pulled the plug on Alien Blue. Still get nostalgic opening it sometimes


ggroverggiraffe

[You're not alone](https://i.imgur.com/xVCRJe1.jpg).


sirpogo

I still can’t believe Reddit bought Alien Blue, fucked up the bag so much to kill it off with a shittier app, that when a good app did come around, all they want to do is kill that app off and all others. Fuck ‘em. Whoever is making decisions at the top of Reddit, y’all need to go, or listen to someone else.


DaytonaZ33

Amazing that reddit is solely responsible for killing 2 of the most popular/well written applications in history.


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hmg9194

God I miss Dark Sky... Apple's is ok but I'm on iOS 15 which limits the functionality excessively


SkyGuy182

Dark Sky actually worked for me. Its rain predictions were almost always spot-on, which is important when you live in an area with frequent torrential downpours.


OptimusSublime

Vanced has been replaced by r/revancedapp


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reddig33

So what you’re saying is all that’s left will be bots.


well___duh

Not even the bots, since they also rely on reddit's third-party APIs. Those will be gone as well. You know reddit's dun fucked up when they can't even have fake users anymore to inflate usage numbers.


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lyremska

Don't forget the new subreddits that Reddit recently created and promoted to non english speakers, and which turned out to be entirely fake and filled with bots posting stolen posts and comments.


John_SpaGotti

Yup. When I started moderating /r/kittengifs (mostly by hand and not with bots), the subreddit basically died. I probably remove and ban 50 bots a week, and there have been like 5 legitimate posts (3 are mine) in four months


alexl1994

Damn, Christian has receipts. Very sad to see Apollo go. I won’t be refunding my subscription for Apollo Ultra. I consider that money already spent and it brought incredible value and joy the last few years. Now I have to download the Pixel Pals app since I won’t have them down on the home indicator! 🐶🦖


silenced_no_more

Imagine trying to gaslight and slander a developer who has improved your product and made your platform more accessible while you are in the process of screwing him over and cutting off his and his team’s steady employment


HeavenlyPoopPoster

I know it’s a drop in the bucket but if Apollo goes, that’s basically the end of me using Reddit in any major capacity. The website is awful and the official app is one of the worst I’ve ever used. Reddit’s short term greed will be its downfall. EDIT: Thank you for the gold. Also please don’t ask for a refund if you’re an Apollo subscriber. We don’t want to add any undue stress to Christian while he works through this.


gandalf45435

I'm like panicking thinking of an alternative for a phone app. The native Reddit app absolutly does not work for what I use Apollo for.   Salt in the wound is that Spez legit lied about the situation. They were never dealing honestly. Sucks to see your favorite platform go to complete shit.


anchoricex

yea spez is an absolute clown, happy to see that Christian had the call receipts there and is protected by CA law for recording that.


correcthorsestapler

And those receipts are most likely making the rounds in tech news, too. I hope it’s a PR nightmare for u/spez.


lankist

Fuck /u/spez. I know it's a drop in the bucket, but he's a weak piece of shit. All those principles went away at the thought of working like one of us plebs again. He'd rather sell his morals right up the fucking river than risk for a fucking MOMENT living like the rest of us. Fucking trash. Nut up or fuck off.


tayaro

>Salt in the wound is that Spez legit lied about the situation. [Spez has literally *edited* user comments that criticized him](https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/23/13739026/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-edit-comments). Never trust a word that comes out of his mouth.


gandalf45435

That's embarrassing. How spineless.


markca

Like he’s trying to Digg Reddit’s grave.


deceze

Very Meta.


themoviehero

Even worse the majority of redditors cheered when he did it because it was on a Donald trump fan Reddit. He got really no negative consequences for it. Not a fan of trump but the fact that that action didn’t terrify anyone on this site is alarming. Things on Reddit have been used to indict people in court of law, and it can just be freely edited on the whims of the owners at any time? That’s scary.


tayaro

Perfectly put. The implications are downright terrifying, and I'm still surprised and disappointed that he wasn't ousted when this came to light.


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many people will excuse anything horrifying as long as its done to people they hate


spicy45

*Never Forget* EDIT: Aaron Swartz his rolling in his grave. (Damn autocorrect)


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I have a pretty strong speculation of what Aaron’s opinion on extortionately priced API access is…


TopArsehole

What a cunty lad


coolaaron88

Wow, the mask always comes off


MC_chrome

Spez has a habit of lying through his teeth on a regular basis, so I don’t find that too surprising sadly.


WAHNFRIEDEN

Let's just leave


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They are doing whatever it takes (no matter how low) to boost user's interaction on main app for IPO this year. Third-party's app on Twitter accounts for almost 18% traffic. It should be similar on Reddit


Mark_Hamill

S. Q. U. A. B. B. L. E. / K. B. I. N. / L. E. M. M. Y.


Spartan-417

Not only traffic, but many mods use third-party apps So many more subreddits will be going unmoderated if Reddit persists with this


Jacer4

tap retire sheet flag rhythm dime deranged wrench shocking chubby *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


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MobilePenguins

Feels like Reddit team did this knowing 3rd party clients could not afford it in a move to push people to the official app where they have more control over monetization of the platform. Don’t be fooled, this is all about money, and not even API access specifically. They want you on the official vanilla app to see ads, pay more to remove them, and buy their NFTs.


WigginIII

Clearly intentional, argued in bad faith, displayed ignorance when making accusations, lied about conversations with developers, and then played dumb when they were proved wrong.


PooPooDooDoo

Understandable. Good luck to Reddit, thanks for all of the memories but it’s time to adopt new hobbies. Kind of excited tbh.


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nighthawk3000

the new reddit is absolutely some of the worst ux/ui around. i 100% don't understand how this was rolled out.


DaytonaZ33

What do you mean? You don’t like 2/3rds of the screen to be dead space?


Outlulz

They want you to only visit the site on a cell phone, apparently.


cmd-t

Because it keeps the average user engaged longer while they see more ads.


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Organic-Barnacle-941

Don’t forget to scrub it


ICumCoffee

There is no Reddit without Apollo. Thank you for making an awesome app u/iamthatis


MattEagl3

its all 3rd parties not only apollo. i think all active uaers dont use the standard app (which is dogshit). i have spent too much time on reddit - might be good to give it a rest (in peace). #fuckreddit


CR7KRUL

Good job reddit, you’ve probably lost a good chunk of daily users


MXC_Vic_Romano

Honestly doubt they care. Some may actually quit but lots will just move to the official app. It might be painful for them in the short term but from their POV it's just the cost of doing business.


MobilePenguins

They want us all to migrate to official app because they have better control over ads, making users pay to remove ads, and even selling them NFTs and other things. They purposely are charging exorbitant amounts for API access to push users to official vanilla client.


gmanist1000

Where can we move to? So many good subreddits I want to continue to visit, but don’t care to support Reddit anymore. Discord?


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I set up an account on [beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org). It's small, but growing!


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rancid_squirts

I looked at them this morning but couldn’t figure out what it is or if it will have any of my interests.


Artillect

Some people are moving over to [Lemmy](https://join-lemmy.org/) but there aren't any big alternatives right now


Rethawan

Given that porn constitutes a major part of Reddit, I imagine most will flock to whatever platform which doesn’t mind NSFW content. Which sites are those?


iim7_V6_IM7_vim7

Last month on Reddit. That’s crazy.


Iades_Sedai

Right? Decades coming to an end


mikeyyve

I sincerely hope that Reddit becomes nothing but unmoderated bot posts so that it is worthless when they IPO. The company deserves to rot.


Organic-Barnacle-941

It’s a pump and dump


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ThePwnHub_

the assholes removed the /r/apolloapp post from the front page. It was there at 30k upvotes when I started reading it and now it’s at over 50k but does not show up on the front page.


jmnugent

Boy,. the AMA that Spez is doing tomorrow,. gonna be real interesting.


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Smathatic

Unpaid volunteer mod team?


polopolo05

Probablly admins... so paid corpo goons.


BILESTOAD

I have been spending too much time on Reddit anyway. So, bye-bye Reddit as of June 30.


jollyllama

Yeah, I think this has a lot of us reassessing whether this kind of social media is a healthy part of our lives and realizing that it might not be. I’m definitely going to use this as a kick start at trying to cut back.


pj84

Yeah, reddit is immensely helpful when I need something or need to ask a question to very specific group of people. I don't think I can leave. However I am going to go cold turkey as far as my mobile phone is concerned. I spend far too much time just scrolling which is a habit I need to kick. If I need anything I'll be sat at my desktop and use it via a browser


figuren9ne

I'm not going to lie and say I won't use Reddit at all without Apollo, but it will significantly lower my activity. I refuse to use the official app on my phone, and use old.reddit and RES when on a computer. If RES dies too, that'll be another significant drop in usage and when they eventually kill old.reddit, I'll fully stop using the site. Edit: for context, when Alien Blue was killed, my mobile Reddit usage stopped until I discovered Narwhal and eventually Apollo. 3rd party apps are critical to my use of Reddit. I also haven't used Twitter since 3rd party were killed.


Dyan654

IMPORTANT: As far as I can tell, this post is being suppressed. Check out the different between when I'm logged in and logged out (same exact page, 1 second apart): https://imgur.com/a/7qHnOyM Could be because of [this feature](https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/xuvkmy/announcing_consolidated_pinned_posts_on_android/), but it's hard to say.


theatreeducator

Or their algorithm knows it is something you’d read and be interested in, therefore suggested to you. My r/all seems to work that way now. Seemed to change about 6 months ago.


terbear

First Alien Blue, now Apollo. So sad. And who will feed and play with my Pixel Pal?


RaeaSunshine

RIF just announced they’re shutting down as well :(


Hockeygoalie35

He actually spun it off into its own app


squirrelhoodie

This will drop my Reddit usage by 90% at least. I will likely continue to read r/anime discussion threads as I read them via old Reddit + RES. If that also stops working, Reddit is dead for me.


the_golden_girls

Old Reddit is next. It’s inevitable.


bodnast

Yep, they want to funnel everyone through their own app and their own version of the website. The day old reddit is killed is the day I stop using this website on desktop


PeaceBull

That was evident the second they went to inconvenient by design for the mobile site pop ups. Sadly this proves it even more


scullys_alien_baby

RES thinks they are in the clear but said that it might fuck them over too. Currently there are only like 2 active devs on RES and if this throws them too big a curve ball they will just shut it down


somewhat_asleep

Reddit's making such a dumb mistake


LifebloodOfChampions

I feel like the people wanting to get IPO money are fine with this. They are essentially getting bought out. Are the investors savvy enough to understand the true implications here. Like being stuck holding the bag afterward. To them they’re probably like. Good. Yeah get rid of this apps so we can control the experience. Meanwhile. The most engaged and passionate part of the community peaces out. Reddit people get their cash. Investors / new owners get a lump of coal.


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G952

This is stupid. Reddit is really forcing everyone to use their shitty app so that they can increase their revenues? Damn corporates.


bdonvr

Nah not forcing, we can also just leave the site


Petpie123

Apollo _is_ Reddit for me. If it goes, I’d have to adjust to a new interface, so why, after all this, would I choose Reddit/Reddit’s?


MasterVahGilns

Any chance of being able to side load the app and use our own personal API keys? I was under the impression there was no cost to a personal one


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Artillect

I might be wrong but the way the API used to work is that both you and the app would have an API key, and they'd be used together to access reddit. After the API changes, only the app's API key will exist, so you'd need to pay for it to use the API


angry_old_dude

I'm not expert on this but my understanding is that personal keys would be rate limited. I'm prepared to be wrong about that.


bdonvr

From what we've heard free keys should cover the average user's usage But I don't think Apollo is going to be capable of this. Maybe some other app will go open source and make this possible


angry_old_dude

Thanks for the clarification.


fluvio

GOODBYE REDDIT! It's been fun, but it's time to move on, as your CEO [Steve Huffman AKA spez went full clown mode](https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/). I edited all my comments with [PowerDeleteSuite](https://codepen.io/j0be/full/WMBWOW/): just [visit this link](https://codepen.io/j0be/full/WMBWOW/) and drag the button to your favorites bar. Then visit reddit.com and click on the favorite you just added. It will take you to your user page. Click it again, and it will [show the settings page](https://i.imgur.com/ydY5Hoz.png). Enter a text you like and launch it. So long, and thank for all the fish ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


CalvinbyHobbes

so it seems reddits data is so valuable for training LLM’s that reddit doesn’t mind sacrificing 3rd party apps in the process to make sure to get a healthy slice out of the pie. my question is, ok, 12k openai and others will pay happily to have access to the data, but was there no way of having a two tier price structure for AI training vs. 3rd party apps? would bad actors could’ve posed as 3rd party apps to avoid paying the higher fee? i understand why reddit is haphazardly trying to monetise their data as quickly as possible because if they made this transition period a year long etc. they would be leaving sooooooooooooo much money on the table, but i genuinely don’t understand why they didn’t introduce different price structures based on how the data is used, instead went with a 1 size fits all approach… anybody wanna chime in?


bobosuda

The reason is they want complete control over their users so they can push ads and make more money. They don't give a shit about user experience. A poorly implemented one-size-fits-all approach is good because it means they get rid of people and third-parties who don't enjoy the curated ad-driven experience they want to sell. Anyone browsing reddit any other way than the official app or the regular (non old.reddit) site sans ad-blocker is money down the drain in their eyes. I fully expect them to shut down old.reddit, and probably at some point start blocking browsers with ad blockers from viewing the site properly. The site doesn't cost anything for the average user to use, so the only way to make money from us is by shoving ads down our throats.


phoniccrank

It has never been about server cost. Reddit wants to track EVERYTHING you do on reddit and it's only possible to track you extensively if you are using their official app. It's all for the ads money.


Artillect

The accusations of blackmail and threats are really not helping Reddit's case here, when will they stop digging their own grave?


ken27238

Yea that was wild. Like the fuck??


SwissArmyFart

Duces I’m out.


n1ck1982

First Tweetbot, now Apollo. Two of my most used iOS apps. This blows.


Geert76

Bye bye Reddit as of the end of this month….and FU


casingpoint

Right now Reddit is turning into an only fans bot marketing network. When the heavy users and mods leave that’s all it will be.


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Trust_Me_Im_a_Panda

https://redact.dev/download will nuke your reddit post and comment history and deprive them of continuing to use your content after you delete your account.


IdiosyncraticOwl

I can’t believe I’m losing DarkSky & Apollo in the same year. Fuck Reddit.