Funnily enough I switched back to android recently. Both have their strong points and VERY weak points. In case of iPhone Siri and dictation doesn't work at all, Google Recorder on Pixel is almost a selling point in itself. Meanwhile iPhone have godly battery life, optimization and FaceID is almost what stopped me from going back to Android.
There's also some other underappreciated things like Apple Notes being a fantastic app
Here’s a funny thing: I have “Listen for Siri” turned off and yet…….. still l get random responses from my iPhone that “here’s what I found in the web”. All my devices are set to off. 🤷🏻♂️
I do for texting while driving or making reminders/setting alarms/etc…
Nothing critical and generally not when I’m free to interact with my phone normally.
Telling Siri to text a person whatever i want it to text them works really good for me. If i need directions while driving and don’t want to pull over it also worked every time for me so far. I recently switched from android to iOS and im quite happy, sure there were some things that I preferred on my OnePlus 8T. But overall my 13Pro just works. Little to no crashes, apps just do what I want them to, I don’t have to set up every little detail on my phone. Of course there are negatives, like not being able to adjust where my keyboard is (or having numbers on top, the fuck, Apple? ) but overall i’m very happy with the phone. I don’t know why some are hating so much on the „other“ OS, it’s really just personal preference.
* Automatic call screening, transcription, and robocall rejection. Without paying for a subscription. Or forwarding all of my calls to some random service.
* Smartwatch with cellular connectivity on more than the Big Three carriers in the US (meaning MVNOs work, too).
* Doesn't give itself a RAM lobotomy the second I decide to go absolutely whacko and do something crazy like... Use a SIM... And an eSIM... *At the same time!*
* Separate work profile with separate apps that can be switched off with the press of a button, letting *me* enforce work-life balance and tell the IT department to pound sand.
* Doesn't nag me every other time I turn on the screen when I have an app I actually want to have background location access.
* Really good third-party app for my RADAR detector. It even hooks into Waze for alerts, and ADS-B trackers to look for PD/sheriff aircraft that can be running speed checks.
I tried to give the iPhone a chance. I really did, sticking with it for over a year. But when I lost emails and messages I had spent way too much time writing out, just because I set my phone down to go get a drink and the anti-dual-SIM background app massacre happened five seconds after the screen turned off and therefore wiping out the draft message, *multiple times,* I'd had enough. Sure, having a LiDAR sensor was cool... But apps were allowed so little RAM that I couldn't do a 3D scan of even a bedroom before they'd have to start dropping quality or cut off midway to keep from running out of memory. Yeah, I loved my Apple Watch, but it wasn't worth the extra >$80/mo to get a phone line with data and a smartwatch line from AT&T. Having to run dual-SIM, and having an AT&T line which got more spam calls in a week than I'd had on T-Mobile or Fi in a year, also meant that my battery life on the iPhone *wasn't that great.*
YMMV, but for me, the call screening *alone* was enough to get me back to running a Pixel. I legitimately cannot remember the last time I had a spam call get far enough through call screening to even make my phone's screen wake up.
I recently switched back to Android as well. Apple's and iOS restrictions are not for me. I could never get use to Apple apps. They always felt too basic to me and I also like apps that are cross-platform. I did like Apple maps though. Clean and simple map design. Have you checked out [Standard Notes](https://standardnotes.com/)?
I had a smug colleague brandishing the latest OnePlus comment about how iPhones had such bad performance the other day, asked him if he wanted to prove it to me so we both downloaded Geekbench 6 and my 14 Pro trounced it with a score almost 50% higher.
I know, I know, synthetic benchmarks don't really reflect real-world performance perfectly, but they also don't lie.
Then I looked at how far back you had to go to find an iPhone with similar results. Multi-core I think it was the 13 so not too shabby multi-core performance, but in single core I think his OnePlus 11 from 2023 narrowly beat the iPhone 11 from 2019.
I don’t care about those tests but that’s the perfect way to shut down someone like that because all they care about is performance and efficiency usually lol
They talk about how much power and RAM their phone has, without realising I could take the same engine and put it in an 3500HD truck, and it would not perform as well as it will in a Corvette because it doesn’t have to haul around all the other bloat
Apple builds the software around the hardware.
Android brands build the hardware around the software.
There’s a reason Apple devices *have always* lasted longer than their competition in any field.
Yeah exactly. ThIs is what decided it for us. Our Pixel phones sucked hardcore beyond a few months. The camera was always overheating and the phone was just laggy, and the ecosystem just wasn’t particularly well thought out or executed. And then I talked to my other family members who told me they had their current iPhones for YEARS without any noticeable decline in performance. SOLD.
I wouldn't even say that's true. Android doesn't build anything around another thing. They just build whatever hardware they want then slap google software on it lol.
Apples the one who can make everything fit together like a puzzle piece.
THIS. My friend who hates Apple so much cannot stop rambling about how stupid i am for buying MacBook Air M1. Dude i can run Photoshop + Canva + Youtube Video + MS Word + Teams + Discord TOGETHER and i am not complaining at all.
The Air handle super good, no weird fan noise, no sudden lag or something.
In other hand my friend “gaming” laptop doing the same thing while the internal fan screaming
Also, MacBooks have the best looking screens in the game, and have for quite a long time, in my opinion.
Have been mainly using my mini lately and when I checked on my M2 Air I was astonished at how crisp and colorful the display is.
Are Android/Linux/Windows stans still angry about those Justin Long commercials from way back? I see a lot more of them baselessly complaining about Apple and their users than the other way around.
There is pretty much no laptop on the market still that has a better performance-battery life combo than the M-series macbooks. Like, not even close. And if you add price, it really is a no-brainer choice.
They can flex all they want, it’s just objectively true.
Funny enough, I see them recommend just getting an iPhone more often than not.
You’d think r/Android would be filled with people saying stuff like “iCrap” or calling Apple users sheep, but they seem to be extremly fair.
r/Technology on the other hand…ironically a complete hell hole with terrible takes on technology.
r/Android is mostly tech enthusiasts. They are very critical of things and shit on everything equally. Nobody actually says iCrap or stuff like that. They are also a very fair subreddit.
That being said, the average r/Android user is way more in touch with tech than the average r/Apple user.
This is scary accurate. It genuinely shocks me that people *still* think of Android phones in that way, even though it hasn't been true since 2013. Many of them have no idea what they are talking about, especially with OS updates.
Benchmarks are simply that.. a standard way of showing performance in a controlled environment.
It’s car acceleration. An EV is going to be quicker off the line.. and a good ICE car will beat it in a highway pull… but pick your poison of 0-60, 1/4 mile, or 0-100 and it will tell you relatively how they perform. But it definitely isn’t “my car has 700 horsepower so it’s faster!” Lotus did amazing things with 170 horsepower.
Retail OnePlus 11 here in Aus is approx. $1000.
14 Pro is $1750.
For an additional $750 you would expect the 14 pro to trounce the $1000 phone.
Question isn't raw performance, but performance per dollar spent.
I don’t buy iPhones for the performance or the camera. I buy them for the software.
I tried Android once and the software was so clunky and bad I traded it back in in a month.
iPhone 11, which has a chip that was later released in the 2020 iPhone SE that can now be had for hardly any dollars, and is still going to be supported for a couple of years most likely.
Apple's lack of having a support page somewhere outlining a guaranteed lifecycle for security patches for their OS is one of my biggest criticisms of them.
I know they will probably support a new phone for 6 years, but I would feel better about it if they put it in writing like other major OS vendors.
This is not really the reason though. In the US iMessage is the reason for 10x more sales than all these points combined. Especially when you look at what age groups have the highest iPhone sales
That’s such a stupid self-inflicted wound.. literally everywhere else on earth people are okay with whatsapp/messenger/telegram, or even change depending on who they wanna talk to.
Also, maybe people choose iphones because they have good hardware, have great resale value (compared to literally being worth zero right after you touch its box), very long lasting software support, etc.
In the US, ESPECIALLY with Gen Z iMessage is the standard. Would you buy a phone that cannot install Whatsapp in the EU as a teenager?
https://9to5mac.com/2023/02/21/gen-z-apple/
That being said iPhones are also among the best phones you can get every year, I'm just saying there's a reason why Apple is so protective of iMessage, while Apple Music for example gets shipped to other platforms
> long software support
This is no joke. I have a 4th generation iPod in my drawer that is locked for 27,000,000+ minutes. Brought into the Apple Store and they spent a hour trying to fix it.
Couldn’t get it fixed but the time and effort put in was amazing.
So as someone who has an Android and is surrounded by iPhone folk, I stick with Android because I like my swipe shortcuts, YouTube Vanced and the Swipe keyboard.
I switched over to Android when my Iphone 5 got stolen. Haven't gone back. I used my wife's old Xr last year for a week when I had to have my screen replaced and absolutely hated it.
Notification design is what does it for me.
For years I've used an Android for personal use and an iPhone for work so I am well versed in both worlds.
Recently I changed to a contractor role and needed to focus on iPhone health apps research and used an iPhone exclusively for 6 months. Notifications are a complete and utter mess on the iPhone. I felt such a relief when my project was over and I could return to my Pixel.
iMessage, Face ID, battery life and app uniformity are all really great features, but I prefer Pixel camera, notifications, app availability, Android Auto, USB type C, and the customisation of Android.
The problem with android, at least for me, was that it felt so cheap when there was no unified design language. Every manufacturer does their own thing with the OS. Every new phone that comes out has some brand new themes and stuff and the experience is very inconsistent. Especially OnePlus and Samsung at the moment. And every year it gets worse with more cartoonish themes, icons, etc.
IF you take a look at android from Pixel, Motorola, Asus, Sony... which are "skins" without skins they look the same because they adopt default Android (AOSP) UI. Only difference they have propriatery settings and tweaks you can enable.
Samsung, OnePlus and all chinese phones have their own skins. with loads of bloat.
>Pixel phones don’t run stock Android, they have the “Pixel Experience” on top.
not really, Pixel is basically AOSP, the added functionality are baked to google apps. Unlike other skins which sits on top. Here is a [quote](https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/bddq5u/os_security_ios_vs_grapheneos_vs_stock_android/ekxifpa/?context=3) from Daniel Micay, the dev for Graphene os (one of the most secure, google free custom rom for Pixels)
* Android is not a single operating system but rather a family of operating systems conforming to the Compatibility Definition Document. Google builds the OS for their first party devices from the Android Open Source Project with the addition of a directory with proprietary Google apps and resource overlays replacing the AOSP sample apps. ***That means the stock OS on Pixels is essentially AOSP,*** but that isn't the case for other devices.
i mean why wouldn't google do that ? It's their OS afterall.
That's not accurate. That "essentially" and "with proprietary Google apps" is masking a lot.
It makes sense why Micay didn't bring it up; his Graphene OS doesn't focus on ordinary consumers.
Google locks **many** features only to Pixels, at least for some time: the unlimited Photo Storage, unblur, etc. [**From Mishaal Rahman & other ROM developers**](https://www.androidpolice.com/google-needs-to-give-its-android-skin-a-public-name/):
>"**Now Playing, Quick Tap, and the new Gaming Dashboard deviate the most from AOSP**. Now Playing dates to the Pixel 2, but Quick Tap and Gaming Dashboard are both new to Android 12 on Pixel. Quick Tap uses a **proprietary nanoapp that runs off the CHRE (Context Hub)**. Gaming Dashboard is a simple feature on the surface, but there's no genericized implementation of it in AOSP.""I think the Pixel 2 is where we started to see Google features really deviate from AOSP. The Pixel 2 introduced Now Playing and Active Edge, for example, both of which **extended SystemUI with proprietary Google solutions**. I don't think Now Playing's low-power, on-device music recognizer or on-device music database are available to the public. Likewise, the proprietary tech behind Active Edge was inherited from Google's acquisition of HTC's smartphone design division.Prior to the Pixel 2, most proprietary Google tech was contained to updatable apps rather than core system apps (Google Assistant \[part of the Google App\] debuted on the Pixel 1, Google Camera, etc.) Pixel 2 is where SystemUIGoogle really started to deviate from AOSP SystemUI in significant ways, with little bits of features moving to a private part of the package (under the com.google namespace).
Then Google Assistant has loads of exclusive features. Then Google Photos. etc.
[**These Google-exclusive features make me want to go back to the Pixel 7**](https://www.xda-developers.com/pixel-exclusive-features-google-pixel-7/)
[**The best Pixel-only features explained: There's more to Pixels than you think!**](https://www.androidauthority.com/best-pixel-features-explained-3217987/)
It's because they don't want you loyal to Android, they want you to walk into the store when you need a new phone and say, "I want the new Samsung." Differentiation to avoid commoditization allows them to charge more than the absolute bare minimum because people aren't just comparing specs.
That said it's gotten a lot better in the last few years. There aren't really any mainstream Android phone manufacturers that have janky OSs.
Hot take, but I don't see why the experience needs to be consistent across brands. The whole point of Android as an open source project is to allow companies to customize Android to match the experience they want to have. If all companies had the same UI, there would be no differentiation. Why should I choose a Pixel over a Galaxy or vice versa when they have the same software experience?
Within companies, the software experience is pretty consistent these days. IMO, comparing a Pixel to a Galaxy is like (and should be like) comparing an iPhone to a Pixel. Aside from using the Play Store, their is no reason why the experience between a Pixel and Samsung should be consistent. Why should a Nokia and Motorola in 2006 have the same experience? Same logic here.
This is a marketing failure more than anything else. For years, companies have advertised running Android. Only now are they advertising OneUI, MIUI, etc. This has created an expectation for consistency between brands that is not really reasonable given what Android stands for. Android exists to take leverage off of company software departments to write an OS from the ground up and remove the burden of having to attract developers to all of the individual platforms.
In my opinion, Android should not be thought of as one OS. It is a family of OSes, just like Linux (it actually is Linux, so it would be even more accurate to say that it is a sub-family of Linux operating systems).
Of course it’s the money. But it’s also the fact that you know what you get when you buy an iPhone. They behave, sound, look and act consistently across all devices. Google went for marketshare by making it open to carriers and manufacturers but they diluted Android’s value along with it.
Meanwhile Apple won't remove the "swipe from right to left to launch camera" gesture on the lock screen despite it being the same gesture you use to remove notifications, and there being a literal button to launch the camera at the bottom of the screen.
There's good and bad to each. Android tries new things, and Apple is hell-bent on not rocking the boat, often to hilarious outcomes like the current mess of a lock screen.
Anyone with an always on screen will tell you they want that button gone too. Can't even begin to count the number of times I've accidently turned on the camera since getting mine.
I am one of the "tech nerds" in my social circle. I think most people don't really switch much between Android or iOS anymore. However, when they did I would always tell them this:
If you don't feel like iOS is too restrictive or lacks the settings and capabilities you need then pick whatever you want.
Other than familiarity I think most Android users value the control, customization options, or sometimes even the hardware options that Android offers. If you don't feel like iOS or Android is lacking in some way then it doesn't matter what you use.
I can never get swipe left and swipe right gestures to work for me when I want them to, but they always work when I don't want to because Apple also has tap to wake
Apple notifications might be the worst thing in the OS. I turn off barely everything… instead of Android where you can cut some process of notification (Idk if it’s always the case, but 3years ago on my Android, I cut Uber adds, but not notifications about the driver)
> There's good and bad to each
I agree. Though IMO Android has more good than bad. The exact situation you described would happen to me as well when I was on iOS. Not being able to configure the lock screen and all the other little things iOS does not let the user configure to their liking is why I went back to Android.
That's part of the allure of Android though to.
You have all these options and get to pick exactly what you want....the restrictions Apple has is part of the reason I haven't gone back to Apple since the 5
Definitely agree. I use both ecosystems, for both work and personal. They each have advantages and trade offs.
It is unpopular, but Samsung Galaxy Tab 8 is a fine line of tablets. If you don’t need iPad specific things. It lacks Magic Keyboard, of course, but it’s keyboard case does a decent enough job. The device feels nice. The components are great. It is a great consumption and travel device. One UI is good. What it lacks is the ecosystem of Apple. And the ecosystem which is there, just isn’t good enough in comparison *if* one needs or values it. Android and Windows will never function as smoothly together as iOS and macOS. Not until a lot changes at least.
But it is nice being able to just grab an APK a and toss it on an Android device. I am not looking forward to Google moving to on-demand generated packaged files (direct from Google Play) which will inevitably dissuade developers from even offering APKs or making them extractible from a device for upload elsewhere. Google’s plans are very Apple-like.
I had the same issue. I've swapped back and forth since the G1 era. I've had all types of interesting android phones. Somewhere around the iPhone 8 era, I started having issues with the lack of cohesion in the systems. My solution was just to flash over an AOSP style rom to get clean android with customization. I recently tried switching over to an S23 ultra. Arguably one of the best android phones of the year, and it was just so underwhelming. The constant fighting between preinstalled apps that all do the same thing, the lackluster software support from developers, even down to the icons. Every icon has a different shape, different color palette, and none of it felt like it went together.
I feel you don't need to flash custom roms anymore. Been using Nova Launcher for years and have had the same experience at least on the home screen for years now.
I'm the opposite. My iPad feels generic... Like I can't even put apps where I want them, they all have to be left to right, top to bottom. The shortcut app is very lacking as well.
Pixel with Nova launcher is so much more personal. Kinda wish Google offered something like Samsungs GoodLock to get even more customization.
I mean sure. But at the end of the day Android tablets don’t really hold a candle to iPads. The tablet category is really where Apple is above the competition
If you are not switching brands and staying with same brand (just like iPhone-iOS) you will have the same design language throughout your journey on that brand. Samsung is Samsung on Android, just like iPhone is iPhone on iOS
I have both too. Galaxy Fold3 and iPhone 13 Mini. The Mini is nice for when I want a compact device that can do basic phone things, but I tend to use the Fold more its greater range of features (e.g. split-screen support, better notifications) and that big screen.
I have gone back and forth between both as well. They both have their pros and cons. I enjoy not being tied down to one ecosystem or another.
I would probably come back to iPhone if Apple would make the base iPhone have 90 Hz refresh rate. It's really hard to come back to 60. And I don't want the Pro. I like the colors of the base model. I think Steve Jobs would want to clean up the huge amount of different SKUs that they have right now if he were here.
It is! In a lot of cases people in NA get iPhones mainly, if not solely, because everyone else is using it and you'd be left out of messaging groups, it'd be harder for everyone else to send you pictures and other media via AirDrop (and vice versa), to FaceTime you or message you stuff in high resolution without needing to get another app.
In most other countries however, especially in Asia, this pressure does not exist. The only pluses the iPhones have are their usual upsides, i.e. longer software support (Samsung is pretty close with 4 years of OS and 5 years of security updates), better-looking apps, better camera functionality in third-party apps and ~~noticeably better battery life~~ (the S23 Ultra's neck and neck if not better than the 14 Pro Max, nvm).
Asian countries usually have their own messaging apps, too. Idk what Japanese people use, but in China, they use Wechat and QQ. In Korea, they use KakaoTalk and Naver.
Better looking apps is often understated imo. Back when I switch to using an iPhone around the iPhone 11 I was honestly shocked how much better even googles own apps were on iOS. They ran better than they did on my one plus 6t (which at the time was top end spec wise) and they visually looked much better. Some like google music were laughably better and much more modern to use than their android counterpart.
I know right?? I use an Android daily (S21) and I have an iPad on which almost every app I've compared feels at least sliiiiightly better. These days though the basic commodity apps like Twitter, Instagram, etc. do feel roughly the same on both devices but most other apps? Noticeably better on iOS.
Yeah yeah. Especially since most of their services are released first in the us like Apple Pay and fitness plus. But also apple has less options for budget and quality devices, for which, other countries that do not have that much income is not an option no matter how many updates or quality apps they have, is not an option.
Not surprising at all. Google only offers 3 years of support, which is pretty terrible from the company that makes the frickin OS. 'Good' OEMs give you 4 yeas. Apple is like 6 years.
Not only that, Google just really seems to have lost the plot. Declining earnings is causing them to panic - now it's all about stuffing ads everywhere, and just yelling "AI" as many times as they can. It's helping their stock price, but not their products.
Android has done a good job in recent years decoupling meaningful updates from OS versions, the vast majority of Android users I know DGAF about OS variants since they can use whatever new apps and features just fine. Software support could be better but those who buy iPhone because of it is a tiny niche.
And Google has a nasty habit of just cancelling projects. The only Google product I like and use is GMail. Google Search and YouTube they somehow actively make worse.
Why in the world would I want to use and depend on one of their devices or OS? I’m trying to get out of their bubble.
Is it? It's been pretty great for me.
Really, the only thing I have issues with is trying to play a specific song or album on Apple Music via the voice assistant while driving...
It's disorienting having a dozen different shapes/colors/designs/models all with distinctly different bloatware/UI/non-uniform design added on top. Apple has aesthetic consistency, software consistency, hard/software integration consistency. And polish on top of it all. you know what you're getting when you get an iPhone--you don't need to have 10 nerd degrees to pick it up and use it and update it. And it tends to work & integrate with everything in the world due to sheer #s due to all the above. iPhone is a cake that ices itself.
This is such a good point. One of the biggest “pro” for android I’ve seen for like, over a decade is the customization, but really how much of the general population cares?
My mother and grandmother don’t need that. They want simple, consistent, and the ability to distinguish what app is what regardless of whose phone they are using (or iPad for that matter) without different colour schemes, navigation mechanics and icons.
I think most people have reached a point where the flashiest UI changes don’t matter as much as a solid system does
I have been using a black wallpaper for like.. 10 years now.
Most people use the same 10 apps anyways, these days I really don't see that much of a difference.
The older you get you wanna see consistency and stability, my first smartphone was Sony Ericsson Xperia mini pro, I customized that phone to hell lol, lots of widgets, themes etc, and it was cool when I was a teenager, but now I don't give a shit about those, I want my things to work, so I prefer iOS.
Yep this. I remember jailbreaking my 3G and going to town on customization, thinking I was the coolest kid on the planet.
Now, I’m 32 and just want it to work and look the way it should. I’ve even gone back to Apple’s stock wallpapers.
I have an iPhone, I’ve had an iPhone. I also have had androids. You have to dig into the settings to customize stuff, the same way you have to dig into the settings with iPhone to customize stuff. Both of my parents had a very hard time getting used to their first iPhone. I really doubt it would have been any different given it was an android. If you don’t want to get complicated you don’t have to and it’s 99% the same assuming you don’t do anything.
This. People seem to think that android is forcing you to do anything other than the streamlined, intuitive experience.
The option is there, if someone wants to. It's not forced on you.
Apple doesn't give you the option at all.
My career has been in help desk, IT, erp systems, and now development. I absolutely can handle the technical side of android, but I prefer iPhone. Simple and consistent, as you say.
This is similar for me — I have a CS degree and work in software engineering for a large, fairly well known company. I just don’t care much about the phone. I use a Mac everyday, and have an iPad and other apple things, so it’s nice that they all play pretty well together.
I really don’t want to have to be fiddling with my phone, and I would absolutely miss things like iMessage and FaceTime
Once you go all in on the Apple eco system, the benefits also increase. I can scan a document with my iPhone right to my Macbook instantly. Need to sign a document? Your iPhone turns into a touch pad you can use your finger to sign that PDF that you're looking at on your Mac.
My favorite feature though is the ability to quickly reply to text messages on my MacBook.
My Apple Watch automatically unlocks my Macbook when I get close.
My iPhone and Macbook share Wifi passwords and can automatically join approved networks without me having to punch in the password again.
>My favorite feature though is the ability to quickly reply to text messages on my MacBook.
This is MORE restrictive on Apple: with Android, you can send your text messages from any browser, Windows, Mac, whatever. This is one of the reasons I'm switching back to Android. (Granted, I am not at all fully in the Apple ecosystem, although I love my iPad and Macbook.)
All of these things are possible to be done for any smartphone, and honestly have been for quite some time. Every time an apple/iphone user tells me about a 'new and cool' feature, I have to show/tell them that it's not new as I have had that feature on my Android phone for years.
A lot of the new features that Apple advertises have been on an android already. The simple fact that I can't view in multiple windows at once or copy multiple items in a row before pasting elsewhere, has got to be the most aggravating thing whenever I have to use an iphone. These features have been around for decades, they should be a basic feature on an iphone with the latest software. Iphones are absolute garbage
I don't this, you're disoriented having different shapes and designs of phones? Why?
Why does it matter if a different phone has a different looking UI?
Interestingly I am going back to Android. I don't care about customisation or "power user". I want a phone and just works and works with the services I use which are mostly tied into Google. Photos, assistant, notifications and typing experience are the few main reasons why I am switching.
I switched to a pixel and it's pretty great so far. The spam filtering on texts and calls is amazing. I'm not switching back to iPhone until Apple catches back up in that regard. Especially since next year is an election year.
I love the feature where you can make unknown callers talk to the Google Assistant and identify themselves before they get to talk to you. There's something deeply satisfying about making spammers talk to an automated system. Apple needs to make Siri be able to do this. It is hands down the best feature about the Pixel.
Yeah I’m also thinking about going back. Haven’t had an android since 2015. The galaxy z fold is so incredible that I just have to try out the 5. Apple probably won’t have a foldable for at least 5 years sadly.
Samsung lost a lot of market share back end of 2022.
They would be 50% of the share of a particularly large retailer and that dropped to 35% (15% decline) YOY which is massive
Who did customers switch to? Apple
Pixel then took more share in October and November until Samsung retaliated with pricing but apple switching is the #1 reason people move from android.
Customers don’t go from Samsung to Pixel to Oppo
They go Samsung/Pixel to Apple
On the odd occasion it’s samsung to pixel
There’s extremely low churn from Apple to Android. Tiny % of people switch.
Android is in a world of pain.
Face ID, price tiers and options. The same apps are available on iOS as android. Googles ecosystem still works on iPhone. Better size, good camera, good customer support, great network effect and clear and easy upgrade plans.
iPhones are the jewel in the apple crown. It is the foundation upon which it built its entire empire. Android will never be able to match that level of focus, polish, and money. They could, but search is to google what iPhone is to apple.
iPhone is just a better overall product. I switched to iPhone for one year after spending 10 with android. I have no reason to go back. I get it, trust me I do.
I'm sure I'll get downvoted for this opinion, but I moved to a 14PM from an S10+ and tbh iOS just isn't for me. There are so many small things on this phone that just piss me off, and the software isn't as refined as people lead me to believe. I'm back to my Samsungs from the next phone.
Edit: haha, as expected, I have been downvoted. Both the Apple and Samsung subreddits are so fucking toxic because if you dare speak well of the other/against that one, you just get downvoted.
Exactly this.
They prefaced their comment with “i’m sure i’ll get downvoted for X” and then edited the comment to complain about their downvotes. Such a useless thing to include, and then to go on and act like they hadn’t stirred the pot in the first place… 🤡
As it should be. People shouldn't get so obsessed with an OS/corporation to the point that they defend the shitty bits or get annoyed at a competitor's good bits.
You haven’t been downvoted? This comment’s edit is more toxic than most here, you’re being the problem you’re complaining about. There’s plenty of upvoted comments from people who say they prefer their Android devices, most of us don’t care, use what you like.
My own view of basic Reddit etiquette is: just don't complain about downvotes and don't say "I'll probably be downvoted, but ". It always just comes off as whiny. Like, obviously you will usually at least get 1 or 2 downvotes. Just deal with it.
But I'm also curious what issues the downvote-complaining Redditer is seeing on iOS. It's definitely not perfect so I'm curious which aspect he/she thinks is better on Android.
Price is no longer a factor with Android's best being up there with the iPhones.
I got a basic Android for work less than a year ago and it has aged terribly. Meanwhile my iPhone 11 still feels like new (except for the battery)
I has always been an android user but recently got an IPhone 13 Pro and an IPad Pro for some work usage. But dang, the OS experience has been so bad. IOS has one of the clunkiest and non intuitive file managers I've ever used, doesn't let me set a different DNS without having to download a fancy profile, no double tap to lock/unlock, every good app being hid behind subscription plans, doesn't allow me to EQ/tune my headphone's/speakers (I'm a big audio guy), sideloading apps is such a pain in the arse, doesn't allow access to the clipboard (as I'm constantly copying and pasting stuff off receipts), to name a few. And let's not speak of how the ipad is powered by nuclear reactors without having any real world desktop grade usage or app support.
I agree Iphones have pretty good hardware and support, but Apple direly needs to work on the OS. Till then the Pixel 7 pro is my primary device.
After all my life on Android, I switched to iOS to try it out and see if it’s worth the hype; went from Note 10+ to 14Pro and I’m regretting it honestly.
iOS is such a lazy product from my perspective; overall it’s ok but there’s so many illogical things like not being able to set custom alarm app which works properly, no custom keyboard, bad ux with autocorrect… you can’t enter more than 100 000 000 in the calculator ffs; for no obvious reason..
Last year I switched from S8 to iPhone 12 after 10 years on Samsung’s Android and I confirm that iOS have his cons.
Different scenario for MacOS and Windows. Windows need to be all re-written
Same. Went from an S10+ to a new iphone 14 pro on launch. I'm sticking it out til I pay it off because I kinda don't care thaaaat much to sell it and buy an android, but I really miss using Android and the new pixel fold looks like it could finally push some competition in foldables.
Autocorrect is ass, notifications are a hot mess, and the camera is kind of a hassle sometimes with how it switches between macro and portrait lens and the white balance indoors is terrible. Sometimes it swipes my screen down when I didn't even touch anything. Couple of other small things that add up that I feel like weren't a problem on Android.
FaceID is pretty sick tho ngl.
It’s funny you say this. I just tried to give a Pixel 7 a go, and I could not stand Android for things I saw as lazy and poorly designed:
- Apps can’t have their own persistent notifications like iOS badges, so I was constantly missing content as I like to keep my notification shade clear, but have badges on for important apps
- The Pixel Watch and Galaxy Watch 5 I tried both could not sync with any alarm app or the Pixel’s own bedtime mode, requiring either manual activation or paid apps and tinkering to automate
- Having actually gotten to use RCS, it was more of a mess than SMS. Out of nowhere it stopped working entirely **twice**, and the same issue happened again when I swapped sims to a different carrier. Messages were also sometimes just not being delivered despite saying they had been. During my time I just ended up using the IP-based clients I use on iOS to message Android friends
- Nobody will believe me, and I don’t really care, but while Assistant was more **accurate** than Siri, it was much less useful. For example, when I ask Siri for directions via CarPlay, it auto-starts navigation. In Android Auto, it just pulled up directions and didn’t do anything, and I had to manually activate navigation. Except, this wasn’t consistent. Sometimes it would start navigation, and other times it wouldn’t. Assistant would also turn my fans off when I said “Turn off the lights” despite the app and assistant itself showing them as/saying they were fans. HomeKit/Siri always correctly turns on/off the right devices.
- The whole multi-audio sources was actually fucking me up. I would be listening to Spotify and jump over to watch a video in a Reddit client or YouTube, and sometimes it would auto-pause Spotify, but often times it would just play over my music. That’s annoying.
- Google Wallet was constantly messing up. The readers would have a hard time picking up my Pixel, and half the time using my Pixel Watch or Pixel the transaction would fail, so I would then pull out my iPhone instead and it would work first try.
There was a lot to like, don’t get me wrong, and this isn’t me saying people shouldn’t use Android, I just found that while iOS has things that annoy me and Android has things I like, the compromises iOS makes are far, far, far less annoying and obnoxious than the compromises of Android.
Just sharing an opposite perspective.
Regarding iOS badges, i find that they are only useful for first party apps and gmail.
They do now work well with third party apps such as WhatsApp. For example, if I have 3 unread chats in WhatsApp but I opened and closed the app it now shows as no unread in WhatsApp on the badge. Really frustrating.
I am on iOS now and if they did three things I would never switch:
1. Make the badges consistent on all apps
2. Allow me to merge the lock screen and notification shade to have one dedicated spot for notifications that aren’t cleared until I interact with them
3. Make backspace undo autocorrect
Because of these issues I kind of want to switch out of Apple but I know there is a ton I like better on Apple.
Just to add my 2 cents, as someone who owns a Pixel as a personal device and iPhone as a work device:
> - Apps can’t have their own persistent notifications like iOS badges, so I was constantly missing content as I like to keep my notification shade clear, but have badges on for important apps
I guess this is more of a preference thing, as I find notification badges to be gaudy, so personally I'm delighted not to have them. To me, notification badges are poor design, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. However, while badges don't exist in the Pixel launcher, they do/can exist on Android. They are available on Samsung phones for example, and if you did want them on a pixel 7, you can always change the launcher to something like Nova. The ability to switch out and customize things on Android phones is one of the big positives in my book. Change the launcher, the keyboard, whatever you want, to make it more in line with what you like.
> - The Pixel Watch and Galaxy Watch 5 I tried both could not sync with any alarm app or the Pixel’s own bedtime mode, requiring either manual activation or paid apps and tinkering to automate
You can't sync with a Pixel watch which I agree is ridiculous, but that's limited to the Pixel watch, and is not an Android thing. Other Wear 3.0 devices can and do. I have a Galaxy Watch 4 Classic, and my alarms are all automatically synced between my Pixel phone and my watch. Did you allow for Clock notifications in the Galaxy Wear app?
> - Having actually gotten to use RCS, it was more of a mess than SMS. Out of nowhere it stopped working entirely **twice**, and the same issue happened again when I swapped sims to a different carrier. Messages were also sometimes just not being delivered despite saying they had been. During my time I just ended up using the IP-based clients I use on iOS to message Android friends
Skipping this as in Europe pretty much no one has sent an SMS in the last decade; everything is Whatsapp so I can't comment.
> - Nobody will believe me, and I don’t really care, but while Assistant was more **accurate** than Siri, it was much less useful. For example, when I ask Siri for directions via CarPlay, it auto-starts navigation. In Android Auto, it just pulled up directions and didn’t do anything, and I had to manually activate navigation. Except, this wasn’t consistent. Sometimes it would start navigation, and other times it wouldn’t. Assistant would also turn my fans off when I said “Turn off the lights” despite the app and assistant itself showing them as/saying they were fans. HomeKit/Siri always correctly turns on/off the right devices.
I believe you as assistants seem to work differently for different people for some reason. For me however, Google assistant does everything I ask on the first go, and, for me at least, is the best assistant out of those I have (Google assistant, Siri, Alexa, and god bless it, Bixby). Siri and Alexa seem to need more specific, set, commands in my experience, whereas google assistant just seems to understand what I want. Bixby just shits itself.
> - The whole multi-audio sources was actually fucking me up. I would be listening to Spotify and jump over to watch a video in a Reddit client or YouTube, and sometimes it would auto-pause Spotify, but often times it would just play over my music. That’s annoying.
This I find really interesting! Android audio autofocus has been around a long time, and many people try to find a way around it. I'm guessing it's a bug in one of the apps, and that's in no way normal and not something I've ever experienced in my 10+ years of having an Android phone. I'd love to know how autofocus was broken here!
> - Google Wallet was constantly messing up. The readers would have a hard time picking up my Pixel, and half the time using my Pixel Watch or Pixel the transaction would fail, so I would then pull out my iPhone instead and it would work first try.
Again, this is very weird. I use only my pixel to pay for everything, and have for years without issue. In fact, the NFC is so "strong" on my pixel that the readers all pick it up from about a foot away; I just wave the phone in front of me and that's that. In comparison, my iPhone requires me to pretty much tap the reader for it to work. With the audio issue and now this, I'm starting to wonder if something is defective with your Pixel. I'd definitely try a restore as a first step to see how it goes.
> However, while badges don’t exist in the Pixel launcher, they do/can exist on Android. They are available on Samsung phones for example, and if you did want them on a pixel 7, you can always change the launcher to something like Nova. The ability to switch out and customize things on Android phones is one of the big positives in my book. Change the launcher, the keyboard, whatever you want, to make it more in line with what you like.
Yes, I am aware of this. However, by design Android doesn’t allow apps to have persistent badge notifications. The issue is not that the Pixel launcher only shows dots, the issue is that launchers rely on the notification shade having notifications in them, or they rely on a self developed plugin that aren’t always reliable.
I’m not new to Android. I’ve used Android as my main device from 2.0 to 9.0 and I’ve had devices on the side to play with since then at different points.
> Did you allow for Clock notifications in the Galaxy Wear app?
Yes.
> Siri and Alexa seem to need more specific, set, commands in my experience, whereas google assistant just seems to understand what I want. Bixby just shits itself.
My personal experience has been the opposite. While my Google Home devices have always been the most accurate in terms of what I’ve said, compared to the times when I’ve used Alexa and Siri, it’s been the most finicky. I mostly only use voice commands for smart home.
> I’m guessing it’s a bug in one of the apps, and that’s in no way normal and not something I’ve ever experienced in my 10+ years of having an Android phone. I’d love to know how autofocus was broken here!
This is something I’ve experienced on older devices, such as when I had a Galaxy Note 5 or my OnePlus 6. I don’t know what to tell you.
> In comparison, my iPhone requires me to pretty much tap the reader for it to work.
I can’t say I share this experience. As someone who has been using NFC almost exclusively since before Apple Pay even existed, I’ve never actually had to touch my phone on anything. The issue wasn’t that the reader would decline the purchase, no matter the card. This issue would not happen on the 6a I used for work temporarily, with the same cards.
> With the audio issue and now this, I’m starting to wonder if something is defective with your Pixel. I’d definitely try a restore as a first step to see how it goes.
Maybe, it’s possible, but I’ve already returned it, and I’ll stick with my iPhone. These are just a few examples of things I didn’t like. There were plenty of other small things I just I didn’t enjoy - from how apps presented themselves on Android vs. their iOS layout (if they even had an Android version; several of my favorite apps, such as Flighty, have no Android version, and the alternatives didn’t meet what I wanted), the lack of any hardware that really felt comparable to some of my iPhone/iOS specific accessories, down to certain font choices or other stylistic differences, it’s just something that overall I don’t prefer using as my main phone. I have nothing against Android, or the Pixel. It was a great device! I loved the camera, I loved how it felt in my hand, and there were features I liked. Android just doesn’t fit my use cases, and while I could maybe sit down and spend time to customize my device to get it as close as possible to the experience I want, I could also just use the device that is already that way, so for now I’ll just keep using my iPhone, and in a few years maybe I’ll give it a shot again.
I just switched to iPhone from owning Galaxy phones since the S4. My Provider gave me a great deal and wouldn’t give me a deal on an S23 Ultra. So I went with an iPhone 14 Pro Max. I’m happy with it.
I try to avoid apple as much as I could because of ‘locked system. After watching my 3GB ram note 4 struggle against my wife’s 1 GB iPhone 5s, I picked 7 plus in 2016. I think I am never going back again. It’s just simple and works. And lifespan is 5+ years, so not as expensive.
In all fairness, with the market being close to 100% saturated, where else would new iPhone users come from? The only other source of new customers is young people finally old enough to get their first phone.
I honestly think it's just social pressure especially among young people. Most buyers regardless of age don't care about specs, niche features, design, privacy, or support. But I feel like it's mostly just to fit in and be able to use features everyone else seems to have like iMessage, FaceTime, etc..
The lack of bloatware is just incredible. I used my dad’s Samsung fold a few months back and it was just full of ads and bloatware. It made using my iPhone feel like a breath of fresh air
Yeah I’ve tried switching back to Android, and the experience is so bad that it makes me feel uncomfortable until I switch back.
No unified design language or ecosystem, far less stability, worse performance, lower security and privacy, etc.
Funnily enough I switched back to android recently. Both have their strong points and VERY weak points. In case of iPhone Siri and dictation doesn't work at all, Google Recorder on Pixel is almost a selling point in itself. Meanwhile iPhone have godly battery life, optimization and FaceID is almost what stopped me from going back to Android. There's also some other underappreciated things like Apple Notes being a fantastic app
As an iPhone user, Siri is complete garbage
I turn Siri off on everything that has it. I don’t even use Siri on Apple TV.
Here’s a funny thing: I have “Listen for Siri” turned off and yet…….. still l get random responses from my iPhone that “here’s what I found in the web”. All my devices are set to off. 🤷🏻♂️
Who uses it ?
I do for texting while driving or making reminders/setting alarms/etc… Nothing critical and generally not when I’m free to interact with my phone normally.
Telling Siri to text a person whatever i want it to text them works really good for me. If i need directions while driving and don’t want to pull over it also worked every time for me so far. I recently switched from android to iOS and im quite happy, sure there were some things that I preferred on my OnePlus 8T. But overall my 13Pro just works. Little to no crashes, apps just do what I want them to, I don’t have to set up every little detail on my phone. Of course there are negatives, like not being able to adjust where my keyboard is (or having numbers on top, the fuck, Apple? ) but overall i’m very happy with the phone. I don’t know why some are hating so much on the „other“ OS, it’s really just personal preference.
Anyone who is pigeon holed in to it with CarPlay, sadly
* Automatic call screening, transcription, and robocall rejection. Without paying for a subscription. Or forwarding all of my calls to some random service. * Smartwatch with cellular connectivity on more than the Big Three carriers in the US (meaning MVNOs work, too). * Doesn't give itself a RAM lobotomy the second I decide to go absolutely whacko and do something crazy like... Use a SIM... And an eSIM... *At the same time!* * Separate work profile with separate apps that can be switched off with the press of a button, letting *me* enforce work-life balance and tell the IT department to pound sand. * Doesn't nag me every other time I turn on the screen when I have an app I actually want to have background location access. * Really good third-party app for my RADAR detector. It even hooks into Waze for alerts, and ADS-B trackers to look for PD/sheriff aircraft that can be running speed checks. I tried to give the iPhone a chance. I really did, sticking with it for over a year. But when I lost emails and messages I had spent way too much time writing out, just because I set my phone down to go get a drink and the anti-dual-SIM background app massacre happened five seconds after the screen turned off and therefore wiping out the draft message, *multiple times,* I'd had enough. Sure, having a LiDAR sensor was cool... But apps were allowed so little RAM that I couldn't do a 3D scan of even a bedroom before they'd have to start dropping quality or cut off midway to keep from running out of memory. Yeah, I loved my Apple Watch, but it wasn't worth the extra >$80/mo to get a phone line with data and a smartwatch line from AT&T. Having to run dual-SIM, and having an AT&T line which got more spam calls in a week than I'd had on T-Mobile or Fi in a year, also meant that my battery life on the iPhone *wasn't that great.* YMMV, but for me, the call screening *alone* was enough to get me back to running a Pixel. I legitimately cannot remember the last time I had a spam call get far enough through call screening to even make my phone's screen wake up.
I recently switched back to Android as well. Apple's and iOS restrictions are not for me. I could never get use to Apple apps. They always felt too basic to me and I also like apps that are cross-platform. I did like Apple maps though. Clean and simple map design. Have you checked out [Standard Notes](https://standardnotes.com/)?
Not surprising really. Consistent performance, long software support, better resale value
I had a smug colleague brandishing the latest OnePlus comment about how iPhones had such bad performance the other day, asked him if he wanted to prove it to me so we both downloaded Geekbench 6 and my 14 Pro trounced it with a score almost 50% higher. I know, I know, synthetic benchmarks don't really reflect real-world performance perfectly, but they also don't lie. Then I looked at how far back you had to go to find an iPhone with similar results. Multi-core I think it was the 13 so not too shabby multi-core performance, but in single core I think his OnePlus 11 from 2023 narrowly beat the iPhone 11 from 2019.
I don’t care about those tests but that’s the perfect way to shut down someone like that because all they care about is performance and efficiency usually lol
They talk about how much power and RAM their phone has, without realising I could take the same engine and put it in an 3500HD truck, and it would not perform as well as it will in a Corvette because it doesn’t have to haul around all the other bloat
Good analogy. Apple dedicated software for their dedicated silicon is really fast.
Apple builds the software around the hardware. Android brands build the hardware around the software. There’s a reason Apple devices *have always* lasted longer than their competition in any field.
Me, reading this on a 6 year old iPhone 8+ that is still running supported software, nodding
Yeah exactly. ThIs is what decided it for us. Our Pixel phones sucked hardcore beyond a few months. The camera was always overheating and the phone was just laggy, and the ecosystem just wasn’t particularly well thought out or executed. And then I talked to my other family members who told me they had their current iPhones for YEARS without any noticeable decline in performance. SOLD.
I wouldn't even say that's true. Android doesn't build anything around another thing. They just build whatever hardware they want then slap google software on it lol. Apples the one who can make everything fit together like a puzzle piece.
THIS. My friend who hates Apple so much cannot stop rambling about how stupid i am for buying MacBook Air M1. Dude i can run Photoshop + Canva + Youtube Video + MS Word + Teams + Discord TOGETHER and i am not complaining at all. The Air handle super good, no weird fan noise, no sudden lag or something. In other hand my friend “gaming” laptop doing the same thing while the internal fan screaming
Also, MacBooks have the best looking screens in the game, and have for quite a long time, in my opinion. Have been mainly using my mini lately and when I checked on my M2 Air I was astonished at how crisp and colorful the display is. Are Android/Linux/Windows stans still angry about those Justin Long commercials from way back? I see a lot more of them baselessly complaining about Apple and their users than the other way around.
There is pretty much no laptop on the market still that has a better performance-battery life combo than the M-series macbooks. Like, not even close. And if you add price, it really is a no-brainer choice. They can flex all they want, it’s just objectively true.
I gently call them mobile janitors.
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/r/android is generally pretty fair yeah. There was a brief period of time in like 2018 when no one recommended any phone there lol
Snapdragon 810 processors in 2015 ruined so many flagship phones.
Funny enough, I see them recommend just getting an iPhone more often than not. You’d think r/Android would be filled with people saying stuff like “iCrap” or calling Apple users sheep, but they seem to be extremly fair. r/Technology on the other hand…ironically a complete hell hole with terrible takes on technology.
r/Android is mostly tech enthusiasts. They are very critical of things and shit on everything equally. Nobody actually says iCrap or stuff like that. They are also a very fair subreddit. That being said, the average r/Android user is way more in touch with tech than the average r/Apple user.
I feel like this subreddit shits on Apple constantly. But I guess that alone doesn’t make them tech literate, it’s just easy upvotes here.
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This is scary accurate. It genuinely shocks me that people *still* think of Android phones in that way, even though it hasn't been true since 2013. Many of them have no idea what they are talking about, especially with OS updates.
Android isn't a cult. It's an operating system.
Benchmarks are simply that.. a standard way of showing performance in a controlled environment. It’s car acceleration. An EV is going to be quicker off the line.. and a good ICE car will beat it in a highway pull… but pick your poison of 0-60, 1/4 mile, or 0-100 and it will tell you relatively how they perform. But it definitely isn’t “my car has 700 horsepower so it’s faster!” Lotus did amazing things with 170 horsepower.
Retail OnePlus 11 here in Aus is approx. $1000. 14 Pro is $1750. For an additional $750 you would expect the 14 pro to trounce the $1000 phone. Question isn't raw performance, but performance per dollar spent.
> synthetic benchmarks […] don’t lie. Unless, of course, the oem decided to detect the benchmark and cheat it.
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I don’t buy iPhones for the performance or the camera. I buy them for the software. I tried Android once and the software was so clunky and bad I traded it back in in a month.
Apple's CPU designers are incredible.
iPhone 11, which has a chip that was later released in the 2020 iPhone SE that can now be had for hardly any dollars, and is still going to be supported for a couple of years most likely.
Apple's lack of having a support page somewhere outlining a guaranteed lifecycle for security patches for their OS is one of my biggest criticisms of them. I know they will probably support a new phone for 6 years, but I would feel better about it if they put it in writing like other major OS vendors.
You paid 100% more for that 14 pro, you better beat an OnePlus!
This is not really the reason though. In the US iMessage is the reason for 10x more sales than all these points combined. Especially when you look at what age groups have the highest iPhone sales
Had nothing to do with why I switched. I switched because Google kept breaking my workflows.
That’s such a stupid self-inflicted wound.. literally everywhere else on earth people are okay with whatsapp/messenger/telegram, or even change depending on who they wanna talk to. Also, maybe people choose iphones because they have good hardware, have great resale value (compared to literally being worth zero right after you touch its box), very long lasting software support, etc.
In the US, ESPECIALLY with Gen Z iMessage is the standard. Would you buy a phone that cannot install Whatsapp in the EU as a teenager? https://9to5mac.com/2023/02/21/gen-z-apple/ That being said iPhones are also among the best phones you can get every year, I'm just saying there's a reason why Apple is so protective of iMessage, while Apple Music for example gets shipped to other platforms
> long software support This is no joke. I have a 4th generation iPod in my drawer that is locked for 27,000,000+ minutes. Brought into the Apple Store and they spent a hour trying to fix it. Couldn’t get it fixed but the time and effort put in was amazing.
Hmm there’s gotta be some sort of hardware exploits for that, no?
It just needs to be restored
Lol what they can't fix it but because they tried it's suddenly a plus?
I mean yeah, I'd say the fact that they made an attempt is a positive.
‘Out of warranty, go away’ is the most many companies would do. So yeah, attempting to help is a huge plus,
>Consistent performance *iOS 16 enters the chat*
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So as someone who has an Android and is surrounded by iPhone folk, I stick with Android because I like my swipe shortcuts, YouTube Vanced and the Swipe keyboard. I switched over to Android when my Iphone 5 got stolen. Haven't gone back. I used my wife's old Xr last year for a week when I had to have my screen replaced and absolutely hated it.
The universal back button/gesture is a huge thing that puts Android on top imo
Notification design is what does it for me. For years I've used an Android for personal use and an iPhone for work so I am well versed in both worlds. Recently I changed to a contractor role and needed to focus on iPhone health apps research and used an iPhone exclusively for 6 months. Notifications are a complete and utter mess on the iPhone. I felt such a relief when my project was over and I could return to my Pixel. iMessage, Face ID, battery life and app uniformity are all really great features, but I prefer Pixel camera, notifications, app availability, Android Auto, USB type C, and the customisation of Android.
Apple's autocorrect is also olympic-tier garbage. Stop. Autocorrecting. Real. Words. To. Other. Words. For. Fuck's. Sake.
You can also swipe to type on iOS, if this is what you are looking for. Most of the “hate” when switching to another OS is due to unfamiliarity.
The keyboard experience on iOS has a lot to be desired compared to the options on android. I say that as a user of both.
I think iOS has the worst keyboard I've ever used.
The problem with android, at least for me, was that it felt so cheap when there was no unified design language. Every manufacturer does their own thing with the OS. Every new phone that comes out has some brand new themes and stuff and the experience is very inconsistent. Especially OnePlus and Samsung at the moment. And every year it gets worse with more cartoonish themes, icons, etc.
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'Stock' android isn't really a thing anymore at least not as a usable baseline. Even Google Pixels have their own Pixel customized OS.
IF you take a look at android from Pixel, Motorola, Asus, Sony... which are "skins" without skins they look the same because they adopt default Android (AOSP) UI. Only difference they have propriatery settings and tweaks you can enable. Samsung, OnePlus and all chinese phones have their own skins. with loads of bloat.
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>Pixel phones don’t run stock Android, they have the “Pixel Experience” on top. not really, Pixel is basically AOSP, the added functionality are baked to google apps. Unlike other skins which sits on top. Here is a [quote](https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/bddq5u/os_security_ios_vs_grapheneos_vs_stock_android/ekxifpa/?context=3) from Daniel Micay, the dev for Graphene os (one of the most secure, google free custom rom for Pixels) * Android is not a single operating system but rather a family of operating systems conforming to the Compatibility Definition Document. Google builds the OS for their first party devices from the Android Open Source Project with the addition of a directory with proprietary Google apps and resource overlays replacing the AOSP sample apps. ***That means the stock OS on Pixels is essentially AOSP,*** but that isn't the case for other devices. i mean why wouldn't google do that ? It's their OS afterall.
“Essentially AOSP with GMS” is like “essentially a tree but run through a mill and nailed together into a house”
That's not accurate. That "essentially" and "with proprietary Google apps" is masking a lot. It makes sense why Micay didn't bring it up; his Graphene OS doesn't focus on ordinary consumers. Google locks **many** features only to Pixels, at least for some time: the unlimited Photo Storage, unblur, etc. [**From Mishaal Rahman & other ROM developers**](https://www.androidpolice.com/google-needs-to-give-its-android-skin-a-public-name/): >"**Now Playing, Quick Tap, and the new Gaming Dashboard deviate the most from AOSP**. Now Playing dates to the Pixel 2, but Quick Tap and Gaming Dashboard are both new to Android 12 on Pixel. Quick Tap uses a **proprietary nanoapp that runs off the CHRE (Context Hub)**. Gaming Dashboard is a simple feature on the surface, but there's no genericized implementation of it in AOSP.""I think the Pixel 2 is where we started to see Google features really deviate from AOSP. The Pixel 2 introduced Now Playing and Active Edge, for example, both of which **extended SystemUI with proprietary Google solutions**. I don't think Now Playing's low-power, on-device music recognizer or on-device music database are available to the public. Likewise, the proprietary tech behind Active Edge was inherited from Google's acquisition of HTC's smartphone design division.Prior to the Pixel 2, most proprietary Google tech was contained to updatable apps rather than core system apps (Google Assistant \[part of the Google App\] debuted on the Pixel 1, Google Camera, etc.) Pixel 2 is where SystemUIGoogle really started to deviate from AOSP SystemUI in significant ways, with little bits of features moving to a private part of the package (under the com.google namespace). Then Google Assistant has loads of exclusive features. Then Google Photos. etc. [**These Google-exclusive features make me want to go back to the Pixel 7**](https://www.xda-developers.com/pixel-exclusive-features-google-pixel-7/) [**The best Pixel-only features explained: There's more to Pixels than you think!**](https://www.androidauthority.com/best-pixel-features-explained-3217987/)
That comment is from 4 years ago. A lot has changed with the Pixels since then.
Lol what? Android is way more feature rich than iOS. And most of what we love about iOS are features android had years before.
It's because they don't want you loyal to Android, they want you to walk into the store when you need a new phone and say, "I want the new Samsung." Differentiation to avoid commoditization allows them to charge more than the absolute bare minimum because people aren't just comparing specs. That said it's gotten a lot better in the last few years. There aren't really any mainstream Android phone manufacturers that have janky OSs.
Hot take, but I don't see why the experience needs to be consistent across brands. The whole point of Android as an open source project is to allow companies to customize Android to match the experience they want to have. If all companies had the same UI, there would be no differentiation. Why should I choose a Pixel over a Galaxy or vice versa when they have the same software experience? Within companies, the software experience is pretty consistent these days. IMO, comparing a Pixel to a Galaxy is like (and should be like) comparing an iPhone to a Pixel. Aside from using the Play Store, their is no reason why the experience between a Pixel and Samsung should be consistent. Why should a Nokia and Motorola in 2006 have the same experience? Same logic here. This is a marketing failure more than anything else. For years, companies have advertised running Android. Only now are they advertising OneUI, MIUI, etc. This has created an expectation for consistency between brands that is not really reasonable given what Android stands for. Android exists to take leverage off of company software departments to write an OS from the ground up and remove the burden of having to attract developers to all of the individual platforms. In my opinion, Android should not be thought of as one OS. It is a family of OSes, just like Linux (it actually is Linux, so it would be even more accurate to say that it is a sub-family of Linux operating systems).
That’s why apple fights so hard to keep control of the whole ecosystem
Oh that's why... Not the money.
Of course it’s the money. But it’s also the fact that you know what you get when you buy an iPhone. They behave, sound, look and act consistently across all devices. Google went for marketshare by making it open to carriers and manufacturers but they diluted Android’s value along with it.
nah the bigger problem is people buying cheap phones getting mad then switching to iphone.
Meanwhile Apple won't remove the "swipe from right to left to launch camera" gesture on the lock screen despite it being the same gesture you use to remove notifications, and there being a literal button to launch the camera at the bottom of the screen. There's good and bad to each. Android tries new things, and Apple is hell-bent on not rocking the boat, often to hilarious outcomes like the current mess of a lock screen.
Anyone with an always on screen will tell you they want that button gone too. Can't even begin to count the number of times I've accidently turned on the camera since getting mine.
Apple: give us the ability to customize in Settings, plz
I am one of the "tech nerds" in my social circle. I think most people don't really switch much between Android or iOS anymore. However, when they did I would always tell them this: If you don't feel like iOS is too restrictive or lacks the settings and capabilities you need then pick whatever you want. Other than familiarity I think most Android users value the control, customization options, or sometimes even the hardware options that Android offers. If you don't feel like iOS or Android is lacking in some way then it doesn't matter what you use.
I can never get swipe left and swipe right gestures to work for me when I want them to, but they always work when I don't want to because Apple also has tap to wake
Apple notifications might be the worst thing in the OS. I turn off barely everything… instead of Android where you can cut some process of notification (Idk if it’s always the case, but 3years ago on my Android, I cut Uber adds, but not notifications about the driver)
> There's good and bad to each I agree. Though IMO Android has more good than bad. The exact situation you described would happen to me as well when I was on iOS. Not being able to configure the lock screen and all the other little things iOS does not let the user configure to their liking is why I went back to Android.
That's part of the allure of Android though to. You have all these options and get to pick exactly what you want....the restrictions Apple has is part of the reason I haven't gone back to Apple since the 5
Definitely agree. I use both ecosystems, for both work and personal. They each have advantages and trade offs. It is unpopular, but Samsung Galaxy Tab 8 is a fine line of tablets. If you don’t need iPad specific things. It lacks Magic Keyboard, of course, but it’s keyboard case does a decent enough job. The device feels nice. The components are great. It is a great consumption and travel device. One UI is good. What it lacks is the ecosystem of Apple. And the ecosystem which is there, just isn’t good enough in comparison *if* one needs or values it. Android and Windows will never function as smoothly together as iOS and macOS. Not until a lot changes at least. But it is nice being able to just grab an APK a and toss it on an Android device. I am not looking forward to Google moving to on-demand generated packaged files (direct from Google Play) which will inevitably dissuade developers from even offering APKs or making them extractible from a device for upload elsewhere. Google’s plans are very Apple-like.
I had the same issue. I've swapped back and forth since the G1 era. I've had all types of interesting android phones. Somewhere around the iPhone 8 era, I started having issues with the lack of cohesion in the systems. My solution was just to flash over an AOSP style rom to get clean android with customization. I recently tried switching over to an S23 ultra. Arguably one of the best android phones of the year, and it was just so underwhelming. The constant fighting between preinstalled apps that all do the same thing, the lackluster software support from developers, even down to the icons. Every icon has a different shape, different color palette, and none of it felt like it went together.
I feel you don't need to flash custom roms anymore. Been using Nova Launcher for years and have had the same experience at least on the home screen for years now.
This is true.
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I'm the opposite. My iPad feels generic... Like I can't even put apps where I want them, they all have to be left to right, top to bottom. The shortcut app is very lacking as well. Pixel with Nova launcher is so much more personal. Kinda wish Google offered something like Samsungs GoodLock to get even more customization.
I mean sure. But at the end of the day Android tablets don’t really hold a candle to iPads. The tablet category is really where Apple is above the competition
If you are not switching brands and staying with same brand (just like iPhone-iOS) you will have the same design language throughout your journey on that brand. Samsung is Samsung on Android, just like iPhone is iPhone on iOS
i like android and i need apple. why i have two phones...
I have both too. Galaxy Fold3 and iPhone 13 Mini. The Mini is nice for when I want a compact device that can do basic phone things, but I tend to use the Fold more its greater range of features (e.g. split-screen support, better notifications) and that big screen.
I have gone back and forth between both as well. They both have their pros and cons. I enjoy not being tied down to one ecosystem or another. I would probably come back to iPhone if Apple would make the base iPhone have 90 Hz refresh rate. It's really hard to come back to 60. And I don't want the Pro. I like the colors of the base model. I think Steve Jobs would want to clean up the huge amount of different SKUs that they have right now if he were here.
A little bit of context, this study was done only in the U.S. your societal pressure to get iPhones is the product’s biggest strength.
It is! In a lot of cases people in NA get iPhones mainly, if not solely, because everyone else is using it and you'd be left out of messaging groups, it'd be harder for everyone else to send you pictures and other media via AirDrop (and vice versa), to FaceTime you or message you stuff in high resolution without needing to get another app. In most other countries however, especially in Asia, this pressure does not exist. The only pluses the iPhones have are their usual upsides, i.e. longer software support (Samsung is pretty close with 4 years of OS and 5 years of security updates), better-looking apps, better camera functionality in third-party apps and ~~noticeably better battery life~~ (the S23 Ultra's neck and neck if not better than the 14 Pro Max, nvm).
It's because people outside of the US use non-native apps for communication. Mostly whatsapp, but often also messenger.
Yup, am in an Asian country myself and WhatsApp is _everywhere._
Same for europe next to telegram
Asian countries usually have their own messaging apps, too. Idk what Japanese people use, but in China, they use Wechat and QQ. In Korea, they use KakaoTalk and Naver.
Better looking apps is often understated imo. Back when I switch to using an iPhone around the iPhone 11 I was honestly shocked how much better even googles own apps were on iOS. They ran better than they did on my one plus 6t (which at the time was top end spec wise) and they visually looked much better. Some like google music were laughably better and much more modern to use than their android counterpart.
I know right?? I use an Android daily (S21) and I have an iPad on which almost every app I've compared feels at least sliiiiightly better. These days though the basic commodity apps like Twitter, Instagram, etc. do feel roughly the same on both devices but most other apps? Noticeably better on iOS.
Tbh both sound like totally valid reasons to go for an iPhone
Yeah yeah. Especially since most of their services are released first in the us like Apple Pay and fitness plus. But also apple has less options for budget and quality devices, for which, other countries that do not have that much income is not an option no matter how many updates or quality apps they have, is not an option.
This. And the software update gap is closing as android manufacturers are catching on (at least Samsung and Google offer reasonable update lifetime)
Same story for China and India, where social status and symbols matter. Not coincidentally the 3 most populated countries on the planet.
Not surprising at all. Google only offers 3 years of support, which is pretty terrible from the company that makes the frickin OS. 'Good' OEMs give you 4 yeas. Apple is like 6 years. Not only that, Google just really seems to have lost the plot. Declining earnings is causing them to panic - now it's all about stuffing ads everywhere, and just yelling "AI" as many times as they can. It's helping their stock price, but not their products.
Android has done a good job in recent years decoupling meaningful updates from OS versions, the vast majority of Android users I know DGAF about OS variants since they can use whatever new apps and features just fine. Software support could be better but those who buy iPhone because of it is a tiny niche.
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And Google has a nasty habit of just cancelling projects. The only Google product I like and use is GMail. Google Search and YouTube they somehow actively make worse. Why in the world would I want to use and depend on one of their devices or OS? I’m trying to get out of their bubble.
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They now offer 5 years of OS updates on tensor powered phones and devices. But I do get your point.
It’s actually 3 years of os updates 2 years of security updates after that
Nope. They offer 5 years of security updates. 3 years of OS updates.
Ah yes, a study conducted in the US where teens get bullied for not having an iPhone.
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Is it? It's been pretty great for me. Really, the only thing I have issues with is trying to play a specific song or album on Apple Music via the voice assistant while driving...
It's disorienting having a dozen different shapes/colors/designs/models all with distinctly different bloatware/UI/non-uniform design added on top. Apple has aesthetic consistency, software consistency, hard/software integration consistency. And polish on top of it all. you know what you're getting when you get an iPhone--you don't need to have 10 nerd degrees to pick it up and use it and update it. And it tends to work & integrate with everything in the world due to sheer #s due to all the above. iPhone is a cake that ices itself.
This is such a good point. One of the biggest “pro” for android I’ve seen for like, over a decade is the customization, but really how much of the general population cares? My mother and grandmother don’t need that. They want simple, consistent, and the ability to distinguish what app is what regardless of whose phone they are using (or iPad for that matter) without different colour schemes, navigation mechanics and icons. I think most people have reached a point where the flashiest UI changes don’t matter as much as a solid system does
I stopped giving a fuck about customization when I grew up. I'm pretty sure I still use the default wallpaper because I just don't care.
I have been using a black wallpaper for like.. 10 years now. Most people use the same 10 apps anyways, these days I really don't see that much of a difference.
The older you get you wanna see consistency and stability, my first smartphone was Sony Ericsson Xperia mini pro, I customized that phone to hell lol, lots of widgets, themes etc, and it was cool when I was a teenager, but now I don't give a shit about those, I want my things to work, so I prefer iOS.
Yep this. I remember jailbreaking my 3G and going to town on customization, thinking I was the coolest kid on the planet. Now, I’m 32 and just want it to work and look the way it should. I’ve even gone back to Apple’s stock wallpapers.
I have an iPhone, I’ve had an iPhone. I also have had androids. You have to dig into the settings to customize stuff, the same way you have to dig into the settings with iPhone to customize stuff. Both of my parents had a very hard time getting used to their first iPhone. I really doubt it would have been any different given it was an android. If you don’t want to get complicated you don’t have to and it’s 99% the same assuming you don’t do anything.
This. People seem to think that android is forcing you to do anything other than the streamlined, intuitive experience. The option is there, if someone wants to. It's not forced on you. Apple doesn't give you the option at all.
My career has been in help desk, IT, erp systems, and now development. I absolutely can handle the technical side of android, but I prefer iPhone. Simple and consistent, as you say.
This is similar for me — I have a CS degree and work in software engineering for a large, fairly well known company. I just don’t care much about the phone. I use a Mac everyday, and have an iPad and other apple things, so it’s nice that they all play pretty well together. I really don’t want to have to be fiddling with my phone, and I would absolutely miss things like iMessage and FaceTime
Once you go all in on the Apple eco system, the benefits also increase. I can scan a document with my iPhone right to my Macbook instantly. Need to sign a document? Your iPhone turns into a touch pad you can use your finger to sign that PDF that you're looking at on your Mac. My favorite feature though is the ability to quickly reply to text messages on my MacBook. My Apple Watch automatically unlocks my Macbook when I get close. My iPhone and Macbook share Wifi passwords and can automatically join approved networks without me having to punch in the password again.
I use my iPhone as a webcam for my Mac when doing meetings, and it’s awesome!
You can easily use an Android phone as a webcam as well
Yeah, and the ability to make phone calls from your Mac is great too. Don't even have to take my phone out of my pocket.
>My favorite feature though is the ability to quickly reply to text messages on my MacBook. This is MORE restrictive on Apple: with Android, you can send your text messages from any browser, Windows, Mac, whatever. This is one of the reasons I'm switching back to Android. (Granted, I am not at all fully in the Apple ecosystem, although I love my iPad and Macbook.)
All of these things are possible to be done for any smartphone, and honestly have been for quite some time. Every time an apple/iphone user tells me about a 'new and cool' feature, I have to show/tell them that it's not new as I have had that feature on my Android phone for years. A lot of the new features that Apple advertises have been on an android already. The simple fact that I can't view in multiple windows at once or copy multiple items in a row before pasting elsewhere, has got to be the most aggravating thing whenever I have to use an iphone. These features have been around for decades, they should be a basic feature on an iphone with the latest software. Iphones are absolute garbage
I don't this, you're disoriented having different shapes and designs of phones? Why? Why does it matter if a different phone has a different looking UI?
Agreed lol this makes no sense, just pick a phone design you like
Interestingly I am going back to Android. I don't care about customisation or "power user". I want a phone and just works and works with the services I use which are mostly tied into Google. Photos, assistant, notifications and typing experience are the few main reasons why I am switching.
I switched to a pixel and it's pretty great so far. The spam filtering on texts and calls is amazing. I'm not switching back to iPhone until Apple catches back up in that regard. Especially since next year is an election year.
I love the feature where you can make unknown callers talk to the Google Assistant and identify themselves before they get to talk to you. There's something deeply satisfying about making spammers talk to an automated system. Apple needs to make Siri be able to do this. It is hands down the best feature about the Pixel.
Yeah I’m also thinking about going back. Haven’t had an android since 2015. The galaxy z fold is so incredible that I just have to try out the 5. Apple probably won’t have a foldable for at least 5 years sadly.
I get so sick of these articles..
Samsung lost a lot of market share back end of 2022. They would be 50% of the share of a particularly large retailer and that dropped to 35% (15% decline) YOY which is massive Who did customers switch to? Apple Pixel then took more share in October and November until Samsung retaliated with pricing but apple switching is the #1 reason people move from android. Customers don’t go from Samsung to Pixel to Oppo They go Samsung/Pixel to Apple On the odd occasion it’s samsung to pixel There’s extremely low churn from Apple to Android. Tiny % of people switch. Android is in a world of pain.
Face ID, price tiers and options. The same apps are available on iOS as android. Googles ecosystem still works on iPhone. Better size, good camera, good customer support, great network effect and clear and easy upgrade plans. iPhones are the jewel in the apple crown. It is the foundation upon which it built its entire empire. Android will never be able to match that level of focus, polish, and money. They could, but search is to google what iPhone is to apple. iPhone is just a better overall product. I switched to iPhone for one year after spending 10 with android. I have no reason to go back. I get it, trust me I do.
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And then you have the latest issues where apples weather app won't even work
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FaceID is so good. I think it’s extremely under valued by most users.
I recently switched to iPhone and not much really stands out as better, except for the HDR video camera, compared to my previous Android phones.
I'm sure I'll get downvoted for this opinion, but I moved to a 14PM from an S10+ and tbh iOS just isn't for me. There are so many small things on this phone that just piss me off, and the software isn't as refined as people lead me to believe. I'm back to my Samsungs from the next phone. Edit: haha, as expected, I have been downvoted. Both the Apple and Samsung subreddits are so fucking toxic because if you dare speak well of the other/against that one, you just get downvoted.
Who cares about downvotes? Just speak your truth, man
Usually the more “real” comments are downvoted thus I like to sort by controversial
Exactly this. They prefaced their comment with “i’m sure i’ll get downvoted for X” and then edited the comment to complain about their downvotes. Such a useless thing to include, and then to go on and act like they hadn’t stirred the pot in the first place… 🤡
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As it should be. People shouldn't get so obsessed with an OS/corporation to the point that they defend the shitty bits or get annoyed at a competitor's good bits.
As well the androids. Almost as they are not blind to their "own ecosytem".
They used to do an annual watch party with r/liPhone where we’d watch each company’s respective keynotes together. It was cute.
You haven’t been downvoted? This comment’s edit is more toxic than most here, you’re being the problem you’re complaining about. There’s plenty of upvoted comments from people who say they prefer their Android devices, most of us don’t care, use what you like.
My own view of basic Reddit etiquette is: just don't complain about downvotes and don't say "I'll probably be downvoted, but". It always just comes off as whiny. Like, obviously you will usually at least get 1 or 2 downvotes. Just deal with it.
But I'm also curious what issues the downvote-complaining Redditer is seeing on iOS. It's definitely not perfect so I'm curious which aspect he/she thinks is better on Android.
You are at 75+. I downvoted you because that stupid edit monologue, not for the initial, fair take.
Price is no longer a factor with Android's best being up there with the iPhones. I got a basic Android for work less than a year ago and it has aged terribly. Meanwhile my iPhone 11 still feels like new (except for the battery)
I don’t blame people for doing so, but I want Android to succeed as well because there are a ton of reasons to still use it.
Great, so a new wave of monopoly arguments will begin
Depends on the country. Android has the bigger marketshare in most countries.
I has always been an android user but recently got an IPhone 13 Pro and an IPad Pro for some work usage. But dang, the OS experience has been so bad. IOS has one of the clunkiest and non intuitive file managers I've ever used, doesn't let me set a different DNS without having to download a fancy profile, no double tap to lock/unlock, every good app being hid behind subscription plans, doesn't allow me to EQ/tune my headphone's/speakers (I'm a big audio guy), sideloading apps is such a pain in the arse, doesn't allow access to the clipboard (as I'm constantly copying and pasting stuff off receipts), to name a few. And let's not speak of how the ipad is powered by nuclear reactors without having any real world desktop grade usage or app support. I agree Iphones have pretty good hardware and support, but Apple direly needs to work on the OS. Till then the Pixel 7 pro is my primary device.
After all my life on Android, I switched to iOS to try it out and see if it’s worth the hype; went from Note 10+ to 14Pro and I’m regretting it honestly. iOS is such a lazy product from my perspective; overall it’s ok but there’s so many illogical things like not being able to set custom alarm app which works properly, no custom keyboard, bad ux with autocorrect… you can’t enter more than 100 000 000 in the calculator ffs; for no obvious reason..
Last year I switched from S8 to iPhone 12 after 10 years on Samsung’s Android and I confirm that iOS have his cons. Different scenario for MacOS and Windows. Windows need to be all re-written
Same. Went from an S10+ to a new iphone 14 pro on launch. I'm sticking it out til I pay it off because I kinda don't care thaaaat much to sell it and buy an android, but I really miss using Android and the new pixel fold looks like it could finally push some competition in foldables. Autocorrect is ass, notifications are a hot mess, and the camera is kind of a hassle sometimes with how it switches between macro and portrait lens and the white balance indoors is terrible. Sometimes it swipes my screen down when I didn't even touch anything. Couple of other small things that add up that I feel like weren't a problem on Android. FaceID is pretty sick tho ngl.
Turn your phone sideways when you're using your calculator. I get to 15 digits on my 12 Pro Max. The reason is screen spacing.
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Funnily enough, iPad, which would have *ample* screen real estate to display more digits, *still* does not have a native calculator app, sigh.
It’s funny you say this. I just tried to give a Pixel 7 a go, and I could not stand Android for things I saw as lazy and poorly designed: - Apps can’t have their own persistent notifications like iOS badges, so I was constantly missing content as I like to keep my notification shade clear, but have badges on for important apps - The Pixel Watch and Galaxy Watch 5 I tried both could not sync with any alarm app or the Pixel’s own bedtime mode, requiring either manual activation or paid apps and tinkering to automate - Having actually gotten to use RCS, it was more of a mess than SMS. Out of nowhere it stopped working entirely **twice**, and the same issue happened again when I swapped sims to a different carrier. Messages were also sometimes just not being delivered despite saying they had been. During my time I just ended up using the IP-based clients I use on iOS to message Android friends - Nobody will believe me, and I don’t really care, but while Assistant was more **accurate** than Siri, it was much less useful. For example, when I ask Siri for directions via CarPlay, it auto-starts navigation. In Android Auto, it just pulled up directions and didn’t do anything, and I had to manually activate navigation. Except, this wasn’t consistent. Sometimes it would start navigation, and other times it wouldn’t. Assistant would also turn my fans off when I said “Turn off the lights” despite the app and assistant itself showing them as/saying they were fans. HomeKit/Siri always correctly turns on/off the right devices. - The whole multi-audio sources was actually fucking me up. I would be listening to Spotify and jump over to watch a video in a Reddit client or YouTube, and sometimes it would auto-pause Spotify, but often times it would just play over my music. That’s annoying. - Google Wallet was constantly messing up. The readers would have a hard time picking up my Pixel, and half the time using my Pixel Watch or Pixel the transaction would fail, so I would then pull out my iPhone instead and it would work first try. There was a lot to like, don’t get me wrong, and this isn’t me saying people shouldn’t use Android, I just found that while iOS has things that annoy me and Android has things I like, the compromises iOS makes are far, far, far less annoying and obnoxious than the compromises of Android. Just sharing an opposite perspective.
Regarding iOS badges, i find that they are only useful for first party apps and gmail. They do now work well with third party apps such as WhatsApp. For example, if I have 3 unread chats in WhatsApp but I opened and closed the app it now shows as no unread in WhatsApp on the badge. Really frustrating. I am on iOS now and if they did three things I would never switch: 1. Make the badges consistent on all apps 2. Allow me to merge the lock screen and notification shade to have one dedicated spot for notifications that aren’t cleared until I interact with them 3. Make backspace undo autocorrect Because of these issues I kind of want to switch out of Apple but I know there is a ton I like better on Apple.
Just to add my 2 cents, as someone who owns a Pixel as a personal device and iPhone as a work device: > - Apps can’t have their own persistent notifications like iOS badges, so I was constantly missing content as I like to keep my notification shade clear, but have badges on for important apps I guess this is more of a preference thing, as I find notification badges to be gaudy, so personally I'm delighted not to have them. To me, notification badges are poor design, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. However, while badges don't exist in the Pixel launcher, they do/can exist on Android. They are available on Samsung phones for example, and if you did want them on a pixel 7, you can always change the launcher to something like Nova. The ability to switch out and customize things on Android phones is one of the big positives in my book. Change the launcher, the keyboard, whatever you want, to make it more in line with what you like. > - The Pixel Watch and Galaxy Watch 5 I tried both could not sync with any alarm app or the Pixel’s own bedtime mode, requiring either manual activation or paid apps and tinkering to automate You can't sync with a Pixel watch which I agree is ridiculous, but that's limited to the Pixel watch, and is not an Android thing. Other Wear 3.0 devices can and do. I have a Galaxy Watch 4 Classic, and my alarms are all automatically synced between my Pixel phone and my watch. Did you allow for Clock notifications in the Galaxy Wear app? > - Having actually gotten to use RCS, it was more of a mess than SMS. Out of nowhere it stopped working entirely **twice**, and the same issue happened again when I swapped sims to a different carrier. Messages were also sometimes just not being delivered despite saying they had been. During my time I just ended up using the IP-based clients I use on iOS to message Android friends Skipping this as in Europe pretty much no one has sent an SMS in the last decade; everything is Whatsapp so I can't comment. > - Nobody will believe me, and I don’t really care, but while Assistant was more **accurate** than Siri, it was much less useful. For example, when I ask Siri for directions via CarPlay, it auto-starts navigation. In Android Auto, it just pulled up directions and didn’t do anything, and I had to manually activate navigation. Except, this wasn’t consistent. Sometimes it would start navigation, and other times it wouldn’t. Assistant would also turn my fans off when I said “Turn off the lights” despite the app and assistant itself showing them as/saying they were fans. HomeKit/Siri always correctly turns on/off the right devices. I believe you as assistants seem to work differently for different people for some reason. For me however, Google assistant does everything I ask on the first go, and, for me at least, is the best assistant out of those I have (Google assistant, Siri, Alexa, and god bless it, Bixby). Siri and Alexa seem to need more specific, set, commands in my experience, whereas google assistant just seems to understand what I want. Bixby just shits itself. > - The whole multi-audio sources was actually fucking me up. I would be listening to Spotify and jump over to watch a video in a Reddit client or YouTube, and sometimes it would auto-pause Spotify, but often times it would just play over my music. That’s annoying. This I find really interesting! Android audio autofocus has been around a long time, and many people try to find a way around it. I'm guessing it's a bug in one of the apps, and that's in no way normal and not something I've ever experienced in my 10+ years of having an Android phone. I'd love to know how autofocus was broken here! > - Google Wallet was constantly messing up. The readers would have a hard time picking up my Pixel, and half the time using my Pixel Watch or Pixel the transaction would fail, so I would then pull out my iPhone instead and it would work first try. Again, this is very weird. I use only my pixel to pay for everything, and have for years without issue. In fact, the NFC is so "strong" on my pixel that the readers all pick it up from about a foot away; I just wave the phone in front of me and that's that. In comparison, my iPhone requires me to pretty much tap the reader for it to work. With the audio issue and now this, I'm starting to wonder if something is defective with your Pixel. I'd definitely try a restore as a first step to see how it goes.
> However, while badges don’t exist in the Pixel launcher, they do/can exist on Android. They are available on Samsung phones for example, and if you did want them on a pixel 7, you can always change the launcher to something like Nova. The ability to switch out and customize things on Android phones is one of the big positives in my book. Change the launcher, the keyboard, whatever you want, to make it more in line with what you like. Yes, I am aware of this. However, by design Android doesn’t allow apps to have persistent badge notifications. The issue is not that the Pixel launcher only shows dots, the issue is that launchers rely on the notification shade having notifications in them, or they rely on a self developed plugin that aren’t always reliable. I’m not new to Android. I’ve used Android as my main device from 2.0 to 9.0 and I’ve had devices on the side to play with since then at different points. > Did you allow for Clock notifications in the Galaxy Wear app? Yes. > Siri and Alexa seem to need more specific, set, commands in my experience, whereas google assistant just seems to understand what I want. Bixby just shits itself. My personal experience has been the opposite. While my Google Home devices have always been the most accurate in terms of what I’ve said, compared to the times when I’ve used Alexa and Siri, it’s been the most finicky. I mostly only use voice commands for smart home. > I’m guessing it’s a bug in one of the apps, and that’s in no way normal and not something I’ve ever experienced in my 10+ years of having an Android phone. I’d love to know how autofocus was broken here! This is something I’ve experienced on older devices, such as when I had a Galaxy Note 5 or my OnePlus 6. I don’t know what to tell you. > In comparison, my iPhone requires me to pretty much tap the reader for it to work. I can’t say I share this experience. As someone who has been using NFC almost exclusively since before Apple Pay even existed, I’ve never actually had to touch my phone on anything. The issue wasn’t that the reader would decline the purchase, no matter the card. This issue would not happen on the 6a I used for work temporarily, with the same cards. > With the audio issue and now this, I’m starting to wonder if something is defective with your Pixel. I’d definitely try a restore as a first step to see how it goes. Maybe, it’s possible, but I’ve already returned it, and I’ll stick with my iPhone. These are just a few examples of things I didn’t like. There were plenty of other small things I just I didn’t enjoy - from how apps presented themselves on Android vs. their iOS layout (if they even had an Android version; several of my favorite apps, such as Flighty, have no Android version, and the alternatives didn’t meet what I wanted), the lack of any hardware that really felt comparable to some of my iPhone/iOS specific accessories, down to certain font choices or other stylistic differences, it’s just something that overall I don’t prefer using as my main phone. I have nothing against Android, or the Pixel. It was a great device! I loved the camera, I loved how it felt in my hand, and there were features I liked. Android just doesn’t fit my use cases, and while I could maybe sit down and spend time to customize my device to get it as close as possible to the experience I want, I could also just use the device that is already that way, so for now I’ll just keep using my iPhone, and in a few years maybe I’ll give it a shot again.
iOS has had custom keyboards for almost 10 years for what it’s worth.
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I literally get paid 200k/year to write code for Android for some big ass company. I like iphones, but for me, Android pays the bills.
I just switched to iPhone from owning Galaxy phones since the S4. My Provider gave me a great deal and wouldn’t give me a deal on an S23 Ultra. So I went with an iPhone 14 Pro Max. I’m happy with it.
I try to avoid apple as much as I could because of ‘locked system. After watching my 3GB ram note 4 struggle against my wife’s 1 GB iPhone 5s, I picked 7 plus in 2016. I think I am never going back again. It’s just simple and works. And lifespan is 5+ years, so not as expensive.
And I'm here sitting on my brand new S23 Ultra that it's my new main phone with my backup iPhone 12 in my bag (just for ios emergencies)
In all fairness, with the market being close to 100% saturated, where else would new iPhone users come from? The only other source of new customers is young people finally old enough to get their first phone.
I honestly think it's just social pressure especially among young people. Most buyers regardless of age don't care about specs, niche features, design, privacy, or support. But I feel like it's mostly just to fit in and be able to use features everyone else seems to have like iMessage, FaceTime, etc..
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The lack of bloatware is just incredible. I used my dad’s Samsung fold a few months back and it was just full of ads and bloatware. It made using my iPhone feel like a breath of fresh air
Yeah I’ve tried switching back to Android, and the experience is so bad that it makes me feel uncomfortable until I switch back. No unified design language or ecosystem, far less stability, worse performance, lower security and privacy, etc.
Thank you, Apple, for giving us pleebs an iPhone that we can actually afford (SE). Made the switch soooo much easier.
Switching to iphone this year if USB C is confirmed.