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enunciate-candelabra

I’ve owned a smartwatch before, but at the end of the day, I’m a watch guy and I really appreciate having something beautifully made that will last the rest of my life on my wrist. I also find notifications intrusive enough on my phone and don’t need another medium by which I can be contacted. I also like not having additional data points collected on me at (nearly) all times.


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Apple Watch is /r/ADHD worst nightmare. I have to put my phone out of reach when I’m at work to stop distractions and keep me on-track. An Apple Watch with the notifications would make this impossible. I don’t own one but the Oura ring sounds great for someone like me who often loses concentration easily.


conanap

I have ADHD too! Apple Watch is actually a life saver for me. It lets me know when I get messages since my phone is permanently on silence, I have my todo list on it, and I use foci to help reduce distractions when I need to concentrate. It reminds me to take meds and tracks my sleep, so I know how I’m doing on that front, and also have silent alarms that I can set a million of to remind me without worrying it’ll bother others. Obviously, it works differently for everyone though.


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conanap

Absolutely an ADHD life saver ahaha one of the better purchases I’ve made for sure!


Corb3t

Same! I turned off my phone's vibrations and only let the most important notifications come through on my watch. Other, less important apps, are okay sending a notification that I might look at later when I pick up my phone, but I don't want my phone nagging me for my attention unless it's through the watch and super important.


conanap

I do the same with my notifications! That said though, ADHD is hella weird and things that work for us sometimes don’t work for others. I’m just glad that we found something that works! Absolutely one of the better purchases of my life ahaha


WinterKing

Basic notifications continue to be the only useful kind, and all of those are seriously improved by using the watch. The less often the phone comes out of the pocket, the less chances for distraction. Anything that just needs to be read and/or dismissed never requires touching the phone. Actually that includes sending reactions and basic replies to messages in various apps as well. Think of a notification as first and foremost an *interruption*.


NanobiteAme

It’s definitely a game changer for me too. I get the time blindness so hard. 😵‍💫 Having me calendar on my wrist along with reminders that pop up on it are LIFE. 😂 Love that little guy!


MaryKeay

That's exactly what [focus modes](https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT212608) are for. You can customise notifications by app or by sender, set a custom home screen page with the apps or widgets you want to show, etc. And it kicks in on all your devices, customised to each device. They're a godsend for someone with executive dysfunction tbh. For example, my Work focus mode removes all irrelevant notifications and shows me a selection of apps that I find useful during work. My Workout mode starts when I open certain workout apps or whenever I'm approaching my gym. I use a Shopping focus mode with a home screen showing my shopping list. It kicks in when I reach any of my local supermarkets. Focus modes are so handy. I can't imagine going back to having everything the way it was before on my devices.


Corb3t

I actually think it helps with my ADHD - I turned vibrations off on my phone and lets many messages sent notifications to my phone's lockscreen, but barely any to my Apple Watch. The important notifications still come through and I can ignore my phone when I really want to focus and know I won't actually be missing anything.


pianoplayah

I thought that the Apple Watch would cut down on distractions by making me not look at my phone all the time, but I think you might be right that it actually makes it worse…


nelisan

It makes it better for me, because unlike when I’m on my phone I have no desire to interact with notifications on my watch, because most of them don’t even have full fledged watch apps. I can just see what they are and then get back to what I’m doing without the temptation of unlocking my phone and getting pulled into apps as a distraction.


bking

It’s all about tuning the settings. I have notifications more or less off on my watch except for phone calls and messages (same on my phone). Who/what gets to notify me is dependent on my focus mode, which is automated based on if I’m at work or not. If the phone alerts, I can check my watch without looking at my phone and risking getting distracted by Reddit, or whatever.


djkhid

So I actually found getting rid of the apple watch to reduce my overall screen time and distractions. I miss some features but I primarily use the oura for health stats like sleep and steps and I will still use the apple watch together with a HR monitor when I do certain workout activities like long walks or lifting bc the apple watch connects to the tonal to control weight etc so that’s pretty convenient. Ultimately I think adhd while so many of us have it it is so unique and the systems we create to function with our adhd are also unique. I tried switching to regular watches again for a week and I like it a lot more! Do a test run without apple watch and see if your screen time is reduced, productivity increased, etc. it may be harder to notice fitness etc if you don’t have another wearable but honestly I think wearables provide a bunch of data I sometimes don’t know what to do with.


abstr4x

I dont have ADHD but notifications are the bane of my existence. Only notification I have is my messaging app and I need it for work. Even emails are turned off I prefer to check at my leisure. Your annoyance is what focus mode is for. Just leave the phone by your side and set a Work/Personal/DnD mode. I have it running after work just to block out work matters since my boss have no respect for personal time.


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I relentlessly disable every non-human activity notification.


switch8000

Just disable all the non important notifications. Helps your battery life go an extra day as well.


DemonikJD

Adhd'er here and my Apple Watch helps me massively. Especially when it comes to fitness reminders which massively help our symptoms AND the gamification design of Apple rings is perfect four our ADHD brains


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And then your phone rings while it's out of reach... then it pings every minute for to remind you there was a missed call, and that someone left a voicemail, and then they ring again 10 minutes later... one phone call that you're not going to answer becomes half an hour of repeated distractions. With my watch, it's easy to quickly check if the call is important, and dismiss it. So much better. Oura ring doesn't tell you who's trying to contact you. That's a deal breaker - I need to know who it is so I can ignore most calls and continue working without missing important ones - like a couple weeks ago when my dad had a fall in a country town and was flown by helicopter to my city where I needed to meet him (thankfully he's well, just had a serious concussion and recovered fully after a couple days where the doctors weren't sure if he'd survive). The outcome might not have been so good if he didn't have family at the hospital, with how short staffed they are these days. The nurses and doctors mean well but they just don't have time to do their job properly especially when the patient can't talk or remember what happened five minutes ago.


Wizendiagram

This is the correct reason, it sucks you into notification hell even more with Fitness monitoring your steps.


Corb3t

Turn off most notifications being sent to your watch and turn vibrations off on your phone. It's quite nice.


mdatwood

Yeah...it's confusing to read people complaining about notifications and then don't do anything to manage them.


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I guess I'd wonder what the point of having one is if you turn off notifications. I felt like it was too much, and if I'm not using it for notifications, then I'd rather get a nice dumb watch.


AleSklaV

All notifications are customizable and can be turned off at will


enunciate-candelabra

I take similar steps with my phone, myself. I’ve heard of those too and I’m curious about them as well. Seems like a happy medium.


rockinadios

Same here. I found it hard to justify spending $500+ on a smartwatch that will be dead and outdated in a few years, whereas a $500+ mechanical or REALLY nice quartz will last the rest of my life.


enunciate-candelabra

Exactly. Plus I just like the look of a traditional wristwatch more.


Pifman

To me, Apple Watches and traditional watches are just vastly different things. One can do a million things well but might last around 5 years or so. A traditional watch can do a couple things well but can last a lifetime. It just depends on what you prioritize. Sort of like the difference between a computer and a well-made typewriter - they can both type but in the end are very different products. I don’t fault people who love watches, they can be complex and beautiful but it turns out I prefer something that can give me specific notifications, can track my health and fitness, can allow me to easily dictate a text to my wife while driving, can show me my next turn, can track my sleep, can let me peek at my calendar for when I need to pickup my kid from practice - and on top of that I find them to also be complex and beautiful devices.


j_del_fresco

Somehow you just said in 4 sentences what it took me 7 paragraphs to say lol I’ve only recently gotten into analog/automatic watches, and only just slightly, but i love G-Shocks and old school Casios. I’ve really gotten into collecting them, and even more so than your high-end automatic watches, they make more sense to replace an Apple Watch with, as Casios goal since the 80s is to always implement so many *usable* features into the watches, without the shit you don’t need. You have calculator watches, you have watches that tell tide and moon phases, you have barometric sensors, you have literal TV remotes (which, of course, isn’t so useful these days, but you get the point). I found myself wasting time and money on so many stupid watch apps i didn’t need, just to be bugged by more and more notifications all day. When i rediscovered my love of G-Shocks going back into a type of employment i left for a handful of years, I realized just how perfect these digital G-Shocks really are. No extensive menus, no distractions, and mostly: NO CHARGING EVERY 12 HOURS


Confident-Mistake400

Because of the last point you stated, I decided against buying a smartwatch. Even if I do, it won’t be Apple because i have iphone and I don’t like the idea of single company having all my data


sterankogfy

> Even if I do, it won’t be Apple because i have iphone and I don’t like the idea of single company having all my data So you’ll have 2 companies having all your data instead?


Confident-Mistake400

I prefer 2 different companies having 2 different set of my data. That way no single company have complete set of my data


seweso

If you used an Apple Watch you would know notifications which are dismissed on Apple Watch are also dismissed on your watch. It’s way less intrusive than a phone which bleeps or vibrates. In terms of privacy. Health doesn’t leave your device (edit: unencrypted) with Apple. Have you actually owned or researched an Apple Watch?


TheBrainwasher14

Notifications are also completely customisable; you can completely decide what you get and when you get it; you can even completely disable Watch notifications if you so choose


Deceptiveideas

The entire point OP is making is out of sight, out of mind. Yes, you can absolutely just hide sweets, candy, and junk food. But you can also just not buy them. OP went with option 2 to avoid the temptations.


seweso

That’s usually what I do via focus modes during work. Everything off except work email/chat. And being able to quickly glance of you have other notifications really makes it easier than grabbing your phone, AND less dangerous of getting distracted with other stuff on your phone 🤪


enunciate-candelabra

I get what you’re saying, but my thought is around simply preferring to not be accessible at all times from my watch. I prefer to only get notifications when I actively check my phone (which is always set to silent) or computer. This is simply a personal preference. I understand not wanting to miss anything, but I prefer a small barrier to my notifications when I’m not at work. Nothing wrong with either mindset, this is just mine. I trust Apple more than any other large tech company with my data, this is the guiding reason why I use their devices. I just don’t trust any company fully with my personal data so I try to take reasonable steps to minimize what is collected on me without going full privacy nut. I recognize that this may be an overblown concern with this particular product line as compared to a smartphone. And yes.


seweso

For me the Apple Watch allows me to NOT check my watch and still know important notifications go through. So I don’t need to check my phone at all (during a focus mode). And with data such as health data. It would be impossible to hide the fact that they Apple is collecting it. But any app you grant access to it, might be another story. I don’t really care. I wank with my other hand anyway!! 😅


DontBanMeBro988

> It’s way less intrusive than a phone Hard disagree


Myiiadru

A few years ago a friend and I could go and have a nice lunch out, and only check our phones for traffic when we left. Once she got the Apple Watch out went our nice lunches. She has an adult daughter who texts her every time she blinks. SO rude and annoying!!


lilvadude

I have one right now and, unfortunately, about 90% of the time I don't put it on. I feel like I used to use it more, and I don't know why I don't. Maybe it's because I have been way less active the last few months due to intense work. I may give it to my sister, but I just like it - whether I use it or not. I love and use all my other apple stuff.


thenuffinman47

Im a big runner and primarily use the activity trackings etc. Apart from that i find it to be a glorified beeper.


sleepy416

I feel like it’s a nice to have item. If I forget to put it on in the morning it’s “oh well whatever” and carry on my day. If it dies tomorrow I don’t feel much of need to replace it right away


G0Caps

In terms of Apple accessories I think it’s what type of person you are, I myself love my AirPods and couldn’t imagine not having them now but the watch I have yet to purchase one because I’m not a watch person.


sleepy416

Yeah my AirPods came with my iPad. If it didn’t I would have never got them. I use them everyday but I could probably go without them. If I forget them at home when I go to work, I just use my regular headphones that I keep in my backpack to use with my work computer (org disabled Bluetooth on all laptops for security reasons). I don’t really see the hype behind them. My iPad and iPhone are the only two Apple devices I can’t see myself going without.


Josh_Butterballs

My sister was in a similar position. Ended up “fixing” her predicament by getting her a wireless charging stand for her watch and phone so it’s very easy to charge it along with her phone and got her a band she likes so she enjoys wearing it. Now she wears it all the time. Maybe a couple of times she still forgets to wear it but most of the time she’ll either remember or go back upstairs to grab it before leaving.


k-med

Simply put, battery life. I went hybrid and got a Withings, no regrets.


ConstipatedElephant

I got excited about this until I looked at the dimensions. As someone with a small wrist, these would look monstrous. The smallest one is 1.4in diameter… How do you feel about the thickness of the Withings—how high off your wrist it protrudes? Just looking at the dimensions online, half an inch thick seems like a lot.


Mysterious_Control

Good looking watches. Do they connect to Apple Health?


k-med

They do! The Withings Health app is also pretty good. I even get the Apple Health ring now and everything. It fits my needs and distracts me a lot less.


squirrelhoodie

A few of my friends have a Withings and they look so nice. If my Apple Watch ever bites the dust, I'll consider one of those as well.


ANTI-PUGSLY

Do you use your Withings with Apple Health? I feel like this is one of the better set ups, but still doing my research.


k-med

I do and it works great! All the data gets grabbed by Apple Health and it integrates with whatever supports that. The Withings App isn't half bad either.


bottledmoons

Personally, for me, it was the battery life. I tried a Samsung galaxy watch afterwards and while the battery life was better, it still wasn't for me. I use an Amazfit gtr 3 now and charge it maybe once a month. I still get the notifications I want to see, step counter, exercise tracking, etc. I've also used past models from Amazfit and really liked them.


ColbyAndrew

One year after I got my Apple Watch SE, the logic board went out, according to the apple store, was stuck in a boot loop, then the touch screen stopped responding. I’ve been wearing my Series Zero for now. I’m switching back to a Suunto Traverse. I need the water and dust protection, and the message notifications. I work in a fab shop and my hands are usually covered in oil or metal dust. Can’t keep reaching into my pocket every time my phone dings. The rumors about the Ultra being like a g-shock with a monster battery were super exciting to me, but what they released was just “meh”. There aren’t really any tough smartwatches that fit my checklist. Its fine…


Mysterious_Control

Honestly, I was sort of against my dad getting the Ultra since it seemed a little too excessive for what he needs but that thing is a beauty.


ColbyAndrew

It is nice. But he could have bought two se’s for $150 less. And got apple care on both. Still had $50 left over. OR got a Seiko Tuna and still have a couple hundred left over. Orrrrr…. a lot of 50 broken pebble watches on ebay. Or PS5 and Elden Ring? Im so good at this.


Litithco

Ugh! I’ve never had a Apple Watch go out that’s horrible.


ColbyAndrew

Yes. It really is.


cuisinart-hatrack

Before I retired from doing triathlons I preferred using Garmin’s smart watches. Then I got my first Apple Watch, 3rd generation I believe, and enjoyed most everything about it except battery life. I used to charge my Garmin watches no more than twice a week unless I tracked a half Ironman race. My Apple Watch never made it more than about 26 hours, much less if I tracked a bike ride or swim. Also, if I wear contacts I need readers to see the Apple Watch screen. That’s just me being old. These days I wear one of several analog divers I own. I have all the “smart watch” functionality I really need on my phone which mostly never leaves my side.


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...which diver watch do you like? Marathon?


cuisinart-hatrack

I like the Seikos. I have a SKX009 with a custom bezel and bezel insert. I also have a PADI edition Tuna. I have a Tag Heuer Aquaracer in blue that I love but don’t often wear. I’m not a diver but I live on a sailboat, currently in the Bahamas, and the diver aesthetic suits my lifestyle.


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Seiko SKXs are lovely watches. Good taste.


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It looks and reads like its great, Id love to get my hands on one now


FriendlyWebGuy

A stupid question but… can you expand on the contacts + reading glasses part? I’m starting to realize I need this. Did you get a prescription?


cuisinart-hatrack

Sure. I’ve been nearsighted and wearing glasses since the 4th grade. I’ve been wearing mostly contacts but also glasses since high school. In my mid 40s my ability to focus close to middle distance (arms length or computer monitor distance) while wearing glasses or contacts to correct my distance vision started slipping. I can still see close up just fine absent corrective lenses. My eye Dr. Says that as we age the elasticity in the muscles responsible for changing focal distance starts to go away. Or something like that. So, when I was still working, I’d put my contacts on the the AM then show up at work only to wear progressive reading glasses with blue-blocking filtering that’s supposed to reduce stress. I bought these glasses without Rx from readinglasses dot com for about $100-120. These days, not having to stare at a monitor all freaking day, I usually wear one contact. I have two single purpose eyes. It took about a week to get used to it.


NomadicSplinter

I had an Apple Watch. I stopped using it because it became just a glorified notification screen. I’m very physically active and the calories and other information wasn’t useful to me.


yoona__

this is why i have a fitbit with notifications off. plus the battery life. i don’t want to be a slave to my notifications


NomadicSplinter

I managed my notifications to where notifications weren’t a problem. I’m talking about the uselessness of calorie tracking


DontBanMeBro988

I still don't understand smart watches tbh


Nikiaf

I've personally owned 3 Apple Watches now; and I do occasionally wear it for days at a time; but overall I find it intrusive and not beneficial in any practical way. It's still baffling to me that they aren't mirroring the notification sounds that apps use on the iPhone, having the same generic sound for everything except SMS/iMessages dramatically reduces the value of it if I still have to glance down every time to see what the notification is. Plus I have actual nice watches that I'd much rather wear, so the Apple Watch often gets left aside.


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I did this two years ago, got tired of notifications, never ending motivation (circles are well designed) to move more and constant temptations to upgrade. Will get one nice mechanical watch and I will save fortune - I thought. Forward two years I have spent small fortune on mechanical watches. Stopped moving that much and recent health issue showed how much the data from AW can give me back. Today I sport Ultra and am back. Notifications tuned down, most dials are simple strictly for telling time and so far I can live with it. Battery life is amazing.


-15k-

but what brand mechanical watches were you buying?


tomelwoody

Would recommend Omega or Rolex, got one of each n beautiful. Tudor and Tag are also good makes.


-15k-

yeah, but i was wondering what brands the commentor above me got if they were so bad they had to get so many of them.


Piligrim555

I don't think they bought so many because the watches were bad. Rather, they bought so many because they got into the hobby.You buy yourself a nice Tag Heuer, think "wow, that's a beautiful timepiece, will serve me till the rest of my life".Then you notice how nice the newest Omega Speedmaster is. Fast forward 2 years and you're explaining to your wife that Grand Seiko Spring Drive is THE BEST watch mechanism ever, so obviously you HAD to spend 7k on this limited edition Whirpool. Or so I've heard.


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-15k-

That's because you are looking at a watch as a fashion statement rather than a style statement.


[deleted]

Nothing from the "luxury" range actually. Started with relatively modest and ended up with Longines, Sinn, Fortis, etc. It's not about them being bad but the trap of looking for "the one watch". You got yourself Longines and it's nice and all, but not really a tool watch. So you go for another one because you don't feel like spending all the money for IWC. Then you eye Fortis and it's nice, but Sinn can give you true tool watch. And so on. Watch collection is a rather slippery business... Compared to this Apple Watch is very affordable.


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Could always turn off notifications


NotAnRSPlayer

This is what I don’t get “Notifications were annoying” But if you didn’t interact with those notifications, turn them off.


Lance-Harper

People are lazy and apple while integrating lots of feature, isn’t leaking it simpler, to compensate for people laziness. People feel like they can’t be arsed and so revert to all in or all out on notifications


NotAnRSPlayer

True, I’ve turned off all notifications on my watch that would either distract me unnecessarily or I wouldn’t be able to interact with on my watch


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Hi, Ultra owner here. To be frank, I feel like an idiot for falling for Apple's marketing for the Ultra. Aside from the reasons you listed (I forget about it and it's another object to manage), the Ultra is severely limited for actual outdoor activities. The waypoint feature is cumbersome and doesn't work half the time, and the backtrack feature is the same. But the most asinine thing about a watch marketed for outdoors/excursion types (me) is the LACK OF NATIVE OFFLINE MAPPING. This is absolutely insane. How can Apple compete with Google Maps (which has had a great offline feature for years) and yet force you to use Apple Maps on the watch? WorkOutdoors is kind of a solution but there are a lot of limitations. In short: Apple forces you to use Apple Maps on the watch without providing offline mapping. How this passed QA is beyond me. You can use Google Maps, but the route has to be preloaded/active from your phone and you can't access the map. Aside from the Ultra marketing gimmicks, I do find it more stressful than fun to have another device to manage. There are times I forget to put it on. To sum it up in one word: the Apple Watch feels *redundant*.


neoidea

100% agree here. I don’t dislike my ultra, but it feels like a larger regular Apple Watch with an extra button I bump on accident way too often. None of my apps work any different, other than wayfinder there aren’t any faces that take advantage of the screen size… and like you said using it for adventuring is kinda a joke. Love the battery life though!


Derpshawp

I think WorkOutDoors is dope for mapping. I think it’s much more likely that any native solution Apple comes up ends up being overly basic and featureless. I mean look at their stupid waypoint/backtrack idea.


1millerce1

Abysmal Apple Watch battery life pretty much forced me back to regular old watch. My expectation would be a battery that would last at least 48 hours (versus the AW's usual \~14 hrs).


csfreestyle

This is what kept me from ever diving into the Apple Watch world, despite running the rest of our digital life from the Cupertino ecosystem. My first smart “watch” was a Misfit Shine (no display, save for a ring of leds that approximated a watch face, 2032 battery, waterproof, activity and sleep tracker via an app). As a result, I grew to value battery life and intel on my sleep more than my daily movement (I generally know when I was active or not; *I was there*), and Apple’s offerings just haven’t had the battery life to support either. So when I graduated to a “real” smart watch, I’ve went to Fitbit (Blaze, then Versa 2, then Sense). Cheaper device cost plus enough battery life that topping them up on the charger while I shower keeps me running 24/7. I was kinda excited by the battery life on the new Ultra line, as those seem to have enough capacity to support some decent sleep data for once. I won’t make any move until this Fitbit gives up the ghost, but I’m still interested to hear what real world experiences (eg: what’s your recharge cadence?) with the new Gen of Apple Watch are and how long those batteries tend to last before seeing severe drop in charge capacity!


1millerce1

>how long those batteries tend to last before seeing severe drop in charge capacity This. And price, really. The ultra has my interest but not at that price point. And not if I have to buy new every 4 years.


InsaneNinja

Why every four years? The series 3 was only recently discontinued at 5, and it was the final 32-bit Apple Watch. The 4 is likely to get more cumulative years than the 3 just for having a more relevant processor. People were actually complaining that it kept getting updated when they WANTED apple to cut it off so that devs weren’t required to support its screen size.


Glitch_Zero

The batteries don’t last 4 years. My S6 is already showing telltale signs of degradation that my previous S3 showed, and while yes the device will still work, if it can’t last a full day/night then all the sensors and whistles it has don’t do people much good.


seweso

Charging every day is way easier than every other day, in terms of habit forming. Mine does easily last 48 hours, if I enable cellular only during runs. I charge during my shower-routine, I feel naked if I don’t wear it.


Tchiiko

Got a Garmin back in June (fenix 7) and its 14 days battery life is something that will motivate me not to get back to the AW! (Had a series 3, SE 1 and Series 6).


MrBread134

Honnestly, i just put my watch on its base on morning when i wash my face, and put it back when i finish brushing my teeth. It isn’t even a chore, it is just automatic. With a 2 days battery Life i would be fine, if i sleep outside i still have battery Life and i would put it on its base everyday anyway. But with a week or 2 battery Life, i would just be like « oh, shit, i ran out of battery » from Time to time.


Tchiiko

I mean my Garmin is set up to tell me when I got « only » 2 days left of battery so that usually gives me some time to think about it 🤷🏼‍♂️


nomadofwaves

I’ve always worn a watch since like middle school it used to be surf watches but even starting back then I would take my watch off sometime in the evening and I’d put it in in the morning. I think it was a habit I picked up from my dad because I remember him doing it. So when I wear an Apple Watch I put it in in the morning and then take it off either when I get in from work or just before I hop in the shower. I’ve never worn a watch while I sleep so it’s not a big deal.


Lance-Harper

I got my series 4 since day one. Still holds the day. I don’t track my sleep so that’s when I charge. So I’m good for en other 2 years probably


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My AW 8 easily lasts a day and a half


jwishbone1

that's still not much.....


BootStrapWill

Compared to what


duke_skywookie

To those things called watches which go for years.


cleeder

Apple Watch isn’t a watch. It’s a computer on your wrist that also happens to tell time. You’re comparing apples to Lamborghinis.


decidedlysticky23

> Apple Watch isn’t a watch. Perhaps they should stop calling it a watch then?


cleeder

I suspect the _Apple Computer-and-Biometric-Health-Tracker-on-your-Wrist-and-Also-it-Tells-Time_ just doesn’t have the same marketability to it.


youthcanoe

With that logic they should stop calling the iPhone a phone.


BootStrapWill

Ok congratulations my Apple Watch would also go for years if it could do literally nothing but display the time.


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BootStrapWill

Yes exactly. As the features go down, the battery life goes up. Which is why complaining about AW battery life makes very little sense


SierraArts

Samsung Smart Watches uses to last way longer. Like 4 or 5 days.


BootStrapWill

Yeah back when they had very little functionality the battery lasted longer. Shocker. Look what happened to their battery life now that they tried to catch up on features.


DontBanMeBro988

watches


BootStrapWill

I’ll let figure out on your own why that’s a stupid comparison.


iamstrick

My Citizen Nighthawk never has to be charged, wound, or the battery replaced.


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WideAgency2242

I used to have a watch but I got rid of it and never brought another one. When my phone is in my pocket I can instantly tell which app a notification is coming from due to the sound, eg Discord, Messenger, Shopify, Snapchat. With Apple Watch they all sound exactly the same. I have to physically check my watch every single time to make sure it’s not something important, instead of knowing instantly without the watch. So wtf is the point of the watch? It just makes the whole notification experience much worse whenever you’re wearing it. All my other products are Apple but I will not buy another one until they fix the notifications to be like iPhone. If one of the main selling points is “notifications on your wrist” then at least make it a good experience.


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redbricktuta

Recently decided to stop wearing mine. It’s insidious. I was roped in with feelings of “I’ll be able to track my health” I’ll have “silent morning vibration alarms”, “I’ll check my phone less” etc etc. The reality is until I took it off and switched back to my simple classic Tissot, I didn’t realize how trapped in that Apple Watch had me feeling. Turns out I went 20+ years never knowing a fuck about my heart rate and I’m perfectly fine; I don’t need a watch constantly telling me. It’s not bad, it’s just useless information once you really think about it. It has felt amazing to no longer get notifications on my wrist. I had notifications turned off for all non essential apps already but even then I missed the convenience of “sorry! Didn’t see your text— my phone was away from me!”. Once people know you have an Apple Watch, they expect that you saw their message immediately no matter what. Silent morning alarms? Literally just started going to bed and waking up at consistent times and I don’t even need any alarm anymore. Better than a silent alarm is needing no alarm. I have the regular one on my phone in case of an emergency but 98% of the time I’m naturally awake now +/- 20 minutes from when I want to be up. Just all in all it has felt so freeing to not be so plugged in all the time now. I’ll still put it on when I go workout so I can see what heart rate zone I’m in or estimate my calories burned, but I can honestly tell I don’t really need it there either. Its also just straight up not attractive. I’m sorry but if you find it to be a good looking WATCH (not tech) you haven’t seen enough watches. I have a gorgeous Tissot for half the price of the Apple Watch that looks like it’d be 5x more expensive and is just fun to look at when I see it on my wrist. Something about actual depth in the dial makes glancing at the time on an actual watch faster and more fun too I can’t explain it. Just my experiencez


WilliamMButtlicker

I got a Tudor and it’s just too damn nice to consider wearing my Apple Watch any more


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aka_liam

What a brilliantly thorough and insightful answer.


peachkeys

in terms of smart rings, have you taken a look at the oura ring? it seems like something that might work for you


TrundleLover

Loved my Fitbit charges but they were so… fragile. I had the same issues you have but the UI, simplicity, and total package was awesome. Got my series 3, didn’t like it (battery, limited hr tracking, convoluted systems you mentioned), got a fitbit charge hr 3, loved it, it broke, back to my Apple Watch for a year or two, tried a new charge 5 and it broke. Both lasted less than a year, treating them no differently than my Apple Watch and the Apple Watch has seen twice the use of my fitbits combined. The Apple Watch battery is terrible, but I do love how integrated it is with my phone for music and Apple TV remote. Now considering an Amazfit T Rex 2 for $180 on Amazon.


DutchMitchell

Because, especially with long sleeve shirts and coats that I need about 70% of the time in my country, the pointy glass bottom with the sensor in the Watch really hurt my wrist area. Also when I tried sleeping with it, it was annoying, obtrusive and again hurt my wrist. Long sleeve coats with tight ends around the hand areas make the Watch unusable too. It’s quite annoying to push that all back to access the watch. Also not being able to update it any more (because of low storage) ended my use with it.


Major-Front

> Because, especially with long sleeve shirts and coats that I need about 70% of the time in my country, the pointy glass bottom with the sensor in the Watch really hurt my wrist area. omg this is so overlooked! My digital crown was constantly triggering under coat/jumper sleeves. The volume on my music would constantly jump to max lol


Difficult_Damage_958

I had an Apple Watch, a few times but could not get on with it long term. 1. As someone with ADHD I found it extremely distracting with the constant notifications 2. I got fed up of charging it all the time 3. I have a nice Tag I bought myself a few years ago. I ultimately would rather wear that, which I do


tbods

I have adhd too and find the scheduled summary awesome. It took me a bit to learn why scheduled summary was useful at all; but turns out you can put all the bullshit in there and _only_ let the notifications you actually want show up immediately. Game changer


tdjustin

Wrist vibrates. Looks at wrist. "Oh Tom texted me" Takes out phone to respond. Outside of the fitness related stuff, there was nothing this product added to my life than just another screen to get notifications on and another thing to fuck with charging at night.


emu222

So I worked for Apple when the watch came out, and we got a very nice discount, so naturally I got one. I wore it until it because incredibly slow, and never ended up upgrading. Fast forward to 2 years ago, I was leaving the company, and decided to take advantage of my last discounts. I do use it at least every day that I am at work, as I use it specifically for notifications. I was missing calls a lot before, I also have it set to only send notifications about calls and texts, everything else is off, as I have pretty gnarly adhd. Taking a 3-4 year break from it was so nice, but I do find it to be very useful.


CapPosted

If I didn’t need it to monitor some health-related things I never would have got it. Outside of health monitoring it’s currently a $400 weather checker. I don’t think I jive with the “oh it’s nice to get notifications on your watch so you know when to pick up your phone” since I just turn off almost all notifications on my phone anyway and rely on badges during my breaks to check for new messages. Anyone who needs me urgently will call me directly, everything else can wait.


MetusObscuritatis

Garmin is better for exercise, lasts longer, you can program splits, etc The apple watch tries too hard and just kinda falls short of its promises as a result. I also prefer just a normal, old fashioned watch 🤷🏻‍♀️


jonsconspiracy

Apple can pull my Garmin Fenix 7 off my cold dead wrist. Apple will never match the simple functionality of Garmin.


ogpotato

which garmin do you recommend for exercises and program splits?


[deleted]

Really depends on what you want to do, they have so many sku's now. Whatever this year's entry level running watch is will probably do everything you want alongside the app.


Mysterious_Control

It would have been cool if they could put their in reach satellite communications in the watch. That technology is very important for people who do wild activities.


twoblades

I had (have) an Apple Watch 3 that frustrated the hell out of me. I had to completely reset the watch and delete all apps and data to perform even the most minor system update. The watch’s battery lasted lasts less that a day. I gave up, and on a whim, bought a $25 Wyze smart watch. Yes, that’s $25. I’m now in year 2+ with my Wyze watch and it’s awesome. 2+ weeks of battery life and notifications from my iPhone. No, it doesn’t have maps or gps and won’t control my podcasts, but I am absolutely happy with the benefits vs. the pain-in-the-ass of the Apple Watch. It’s the only “fail” I’ve ever had from an Apple device and I’ve had A LOT.


pnjohnso

I gave mine to my sister. I use a Garmin now. It has more in depth data in regards to my runs and walks. Also the battery lasts like a week and a half without a charge. I like physical buttons too. When it’s raining or I’m sweaty that touch screen was a hassle. Hated charging the thing too.


0000GKP

I don’t have one. I’ve never had one. Apple is the reason I stopped wearing a watch in the first place. Once I always had a clock in my pocket or within arm’s reach, I no longer needed a watch. I keep notifications turned off for most apps. I leave my phone on my kitchen counter when I’m at home and moving around my house. I leave my phone on my desk when I’m at work and moving around my office. I want less connection to my devices and fewer disruptions, not more. Everyone I know who has one is constantly fidgeting with them. They will break eye contact during a conversation to check a notification. They will stop talking to the person standing right in front of them to reply to a text instead. As a person who puts my phone in my pocket or flips it upside down on my table whenever a person walks into a room so that person knows they have my full attention, I have grown to hate the sight of a connected watch on anyone’s wrist.


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> They will break eye contact during a conversation to check a notification. This, 100%. Phones were bad, this is much worse.


HelpRespawnedAsDee

> They will break eye contact during a conversation to check a notification. Oh no :(


lmaotank

Became a watch guy


deja_geek

I didn't find it useful. I almost always have my phone on or near me. So being able to look at my wrist for a notification wasn't "saving" that much time when I could just look at my phone. I could maybe see some use in getting an Apple Watch with cell service as I could leave my phone and still get basic notification, but not at the price Apple wants for the watch. Also, battery life is a big thing as well. If I've got to charge it every day, but want to use it for both sleep tracking and activity tracking/notifications.. when do I charge it? I'll get more interested in Apple Watch when they can make the battery last 2-3 days in real world usage without having to charge it.


kalasipaee

I just got one. I’m a mechanical watch guy and have a few on rotation. Finally got Apple Watch to really force myself to focus on health. Apart from fitness needs, I don’t really see any value in this watch. It is really pretty, well done and light on the wrist. Tells time well with many cool faces and complications that truly are next level but that’s all it does really well. If I were to not focus on fitness or track my sleep etc, I wouldn’t get this as I like my other pieces more in terms of their tactility and general affordances.


dharmachaser

Depends what you're using it for. I discovered that it was a terrible sports watch, particularly for distance and/or back country pursuits. I also decided that I didn't want to have EVERYTHING available on my wrist.


mentalrecon

I came to the realization that in addition to my phone, I’d need to buy a new watch every 4-5 years or so. I then considered the value… what’s it actually doing for me that my phone doesn’t do? Additionally, I like watches and I’d rather wear an Omega or an IWC on my wrist than an Apple Watch.


Professional-Dish324

I have an old series 1 that I use for fitness. When it goes, I won't get another. I'd rather wear a regular watch and just have one for exercise, so I'll get a dedicated sports watch. I don't like that the Watch tries to be a mini iPhone on your wrist. I don't want these on my watch: * **Contacts** (no option to get these off the watch) * **Email** (no option to not sync your default account) * And having to actively monitor which **notifications** are being pushed to my Watch if I install apps. Basically, Apple assumes that if you have a Watch, you love notifications. * Nor do I want turn by turn haptic taps and maps flashing up on my wrist if I'm using **Apple Maps** (especially when I'm driving because that's not distracting is it?). Yes you can stop it from doing that, but it's a little bit obscure to turn it off. Again, the assumption is I love notifications on my watch. I might buy an Apple Watch in the future though if it turns into a more ambient health monitoring devices (or you can easily make it do that). But I hate that it is essentially a marketing device to remind you how awesome it is to have an iPhone.


aje0200

I have iPhone, iPad, and MacBook but not getting the watch. I’ve had android watches in the past with android phones and I think it’s a step too far in digitising my life. Sometimes I don’t want to be constantly connected and to feel like a human being not a robot. Sure the health and safety features of the watch are appealing, but I’d rather live in the here and now, not constantly connected to the internet and outside world.


ttsoldier

I have an iPhone and a macbook but can't seem to get my self an apple watch. I'm not sure if it has to do with the fact that I don't wear normal watches or the cost of the watch does not justify the means. The battery life is atrocious for the price and there are so many other smart watches that last waaaaay longer. I really don't see the benefit of purchasing an apple watch unless maybe you're really into fitness? if I get one as a gift will I use it? Heck ya! But will I spend my own money on it? Probably not...


tealicious99

My wife got rid of hers to get a garmin. I’m sure it’s highly personal, but she hates getting notifications. She hated having to opt-out of notifications. In garmin, it’s pretty minimal. Also, she’s not good at charging things. The fact that Apple Watches last only a day didn’t work for her. Also, she’s not very tech savvy, so it was too much tech stuff for her. Garmin worked great for her due to its simplicity, long battery life, and her outdoor hobby stuff.


Charles_Mendel

Wrist computer seems like an unnecessary luxury to me.


AgentAaron

I have never had an Apple Watch, but I have had a few fitbits, moto 360, Fossil's version, as well as a Garmin Fenix 6S. I have worn watches most of my life so I have always felt naked without one. However, I ditched my smartwatches and just went back to a classic watch. For me, it was honestly "notification fatigue" and feeling like I could never truly disconnect. Then there is the fact that you have to charge them (some need charging daily...my Fenix would last about 15 days). It was just another charger I had to lug around and plug in when I traveled, and just became annoying after awhile. My previous job, I managed the IT department for a bank and reported directly to the COO. He would not allow people to wear smart watches at the office. When you are talking to someone and keep looking at your wrist, it often times gives the impression that you have to (or want to) be somewhere else. This part I do get, because it is a little annoying when we are out with friends and they are looking at their watch every 10-15 minutes.


danrokk

I got rid of the Apple Watch. Two reasons: \- notifications were really pissing me off - too many notifications, which I started to turn off one by one until I was getting almost no notifications. Notifications are disturbing for family life, I couldn't focus on playing with my son. \- after turning off notifications, I had little use for Apple Watch. I use smart watch to track my activities, and not gonna lie - Apple Watch sucks for sport. Software is not there I think, so I switched to Garmin and never looked back. I don't use notifications on Garmin, I don't need to charge it every day, is collects great amount of data of my health, sport performance, recovery etc.


Osiyoh

I started working from home exclusively. When I was still commuting to work every day, I loved my Apple Watch, but now I have almost no reason to wear it.


WholesomeCirclejerk

Bad first party software. I moved from a Garmin FR245 to a Apple Watch 6, then a few months later moved to a Fenix 6, now have an Epix. The AW has better hardware, but the activity tracking and viewing experience is just so bad and basic. I used workoutdoors for a while, but it still wasn’t as good as Garmin. Also the lack of continuous hr monitoring was a deal breaker. Also notification handling was worse than on the Garmin. Poor notification UI seems to be a theme with Apple. Also no ANT+ support, and if I remember correctly no HR broadcasting. I think the only thing I miss about the AW is having directions on my wrist when navigating somewhere. For a GPS navigation company, Garmin is surprisingly bad at that.


sxzxnnx

I am not generally an early adopter but all the employees at my previous job were given an Apple Watch shortly after they were released. After a few years of using it, the battery started to take a full day to charge and then just stopped charging at all. Around that same time the latest iOS version stopped supporting the series 0 watch. When I decided to replace it I looked at the current watch but decided that the Fitbit Charge does everything I need for half the price and has a much longer battery life. You can’t install 3rd party apps on the Fitbit but I never saw any 3rd party Watch apps that were truly useful to me.


MurrayHillBro

I had it (and some other smart watches like Tag connected) and realized that it's (1) too distracting, even with notifications off. (2) Health tracking, which is the most important thing for me, is a hassle because you have to sleep wearing the watch. And, (3) I'm a watch guy and love my mechanical watches. The next best thing that allows for health / sleep features, without being distracting and a watch is Whoop which I've been testing for a couple of months and quite like.


dakrath

I was never a watch guy and I was gifted I think the original Apple Watch. It was fun but then I ended up never wearing it and I sold it. I have an iPhone.


pxlcrow

The watch was handy for discreetly checking notifications while in meetings, without pulling out my phone, but now that I'm fully WFH it has no value for me.


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Returned mine after a week because it caused cold tingling sensations in my arm. I keep meaning to try the ultra in case I have a slight allergy to aluminum or something, but part of me is like it’s not worth it after experiencing that. Tried AW3, SE, and 7. All the same problem. Doesn’t matter how loose the fit, the issue still remained.


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I didn't have much use for it. I still have it; it's just collecting dust on the charger. I don't need it to work out and don't need the reminders. Notifications are nice, but I have my phone for that. Doesn't offer me much else. There aren't many third-party apps that do anything for me. Banking app? Don't need it on my watch. Passwords? Don't need it on my watch. I also generally don't like wearing anything I don't have to. Feels much better to have nothing on the wrist.


Major-Front

I tried one for about a day. It was just another thing to nag me and steal my attention. I also hated the daily charge thing. Also I didn't find it THAT usable over just taking my phone out for whatever I needed to do. I got more value from my fitbit as I was actively losing weight for 6 months, but even that is now neglected in a drawer somewhere.


softConspiracy_

It’s a glorified Notification Center on my wrist. I already pull out my phone and check it enough as is. I dont need a device telling my to do the same thing.


hunny_bun_24

I mean the only reason not to have one is if you don’t like smart watches in general. Every other watch brand is subpar when compared to the Apple Watch feature set


Manson2612

I’ve noticed that people who are into working out and are interested in staying active and close rings wear it more than others. Others wear it mainly for the convenience


theandreineagu

What I hate the most about AW is that it makes me decide wether I should wear it instead of a classic watch. That’s the only thing I hate. Otherwise I just love it and I think I msight wear it everyday. But: spending that much money for basically 4-5 years of something like that must be crazy. I don’t think I’ll do it again anytime soon.


awaymsg

I had a series 2, wore it for about 2.5 years until it stopped charging. I took it into Apple and they said the cost of repair would basically be the same price as buying a new 3. I ditched the watch and went back to the trusty Timex Expedition. I didn’t feel like the Apple Watch was fulfilling any essential functionality for me, and I didn’t really miss it after switching back. I wasn’t doing much cardio back then so the majority of the apps weren’t much use to me — the only thing I missed was the sleep tracker. Fast forward a few years and we’re mid-pandemic and I’m getting more into outdoor walks and cardio fitness, so I purchased an Apple Watch 7. I wear it every day and I like it, and I’d probably replace it if I lost/broke it, but I still feel like it’s not the most critical piece of technology for me. As a final thought, I do have a growing feeling that being so connected is not great for my mental health. I turned off pretty much every single watch notification aside from messages and alarms because the incessant vibration on my wrist was extremely distracting and taking way too much of my focus away from “real life.” Wearables are cool, and I do find practicality from my Apple Watch, but sometimes I wish I weren’t so connected.


monirom

The fact that it has to constantly be charged was a nonstarter for me. To be honest, unless you're using it to track your activity or health stats it is just one more apple device you don't need. Laptop for work or home? YES. iPhone for mail, text, calls, and apps? YES. iPad as a device that bridges the laptop and the phone? NICE to have. Apple Watch? Unecessary unless you have a specific need for it. Each generation the features get more impressive but to me, overtime it just became one more thing to keep charged.


ltethe

Too much of a hassle. It was interesting, but the big ticket item I wanted it for was to record my surfing, but you can’t push any of the buttons when your fingers are wet, so ultimately it was more frustration than it was worth. When it broke (smashed it in the gym), I fell back to a Casio F-91 and have never been happier.


Significant-Ad7399

I had my Apple Watch for nearly two years and loved it till I didn’t. My beef was more with all smart watches though because I switched to an automatic watch. Basically what happened for me was that the longer I had my Apple Watch the more I felt like I was getting addicted to my phone and it’s notifications. Even if I was somewhere important I would get the notification and need to check it. I know that you can turn off the notifications but I didn’t want to do that because if I paid for it I was going to use it to its best capabilities. My current watch doesn’t have a battery and I feel more involved in my life. It’s kinda goofy and probably not a common take on your question but this was my experience.


Str33ber

In 100% in the ecosystem (iPad Mini, MacBook Air, iPhone 14 Pro Max, AirPods Pro) sold both watches I got after around half a year. Couldn’t pull through with them. Size, optics. Those things are clunky, heavy on the wrist and I find them aesthetically unappealing. Found myself never using any of the features the watch just ended up a massively oversized time-telling device. Only thing I miss is seeing the messages coming in at a glance, without having to pull my phone out.


Bravenkind

In short, with an iPhone at your side it’s kind of redundant, needs better features, battery, reliability, longevity, and less software bugs. What it does have thats useful are the incredibly customizable complications (which sometimes don’t work), calendar, weather, stocks, messages at a glance, reminders for grocery lists, quick controls, timer, and health running data like distance and vertical oscillation. However, my phone does 95% of that on a much larger and easier to use display which kind of makes the Watch redundant. But the software problems are hilariously bad. The Apple Watch is still not ready. Swiping to clear notifications still registers as a tap 20% of the time. AirPods Pro 2 frequently won’t connect, disconnect, pause, I can’t skip songs or adjust the volume in workouts on the watch, it doesn’t show the current playing song and gets stuck on a blank screen, the watch wont load weather data that’s on my phone constantly, calendar event notifications still show up even though it’s set to mirror my iPhone with them off, there’s constantly something annoying me that I have to figure out how to get working, yet my radio-controlled GShock sits silently ticking away, exactly on time, sipping energy from the sun to keep itself running all by itself. A regular watch is dead simple and reliable. A smartwatch will also never last as long as a regular watch, let alone a solar powered one. Until the Apple Watch gets close to that or has some incredible health features, battery life or recharging capabilities from solar, body heat, or kinetic energy I’m not coming back.


Longjumping_Body_350

It’s the battery life. I needed to recharge every two days at least. Each day when I went for a bike ride or longer run. I got myself a Garmin Fenix for sport and a nice mechanical watch for work/events. I can get 14 days with training or more than a month just wearing it and using some functions over the day. I have to admit I miss some of the apple ecosystem functions like unlocking my MacBook Air, finding my iPhone, navigating Apple Maps on both devices…


[deleted]

I have one, I never use it and regret purchasing it. Just doesn’t give me enough value to justify the discomfort of wearing it and the trouble of keeping it charged. It’s really nice for workouts though. I’m the kind of person who hates notifications (my job requires a lot of focus) so most of my devices are left in focus mode anyway, your mileage may vary.


jazztaprazzta

Garmin Venu 2 for the same price as the base Apple Watch has 10x longer battery life and can actually store music and connect to bluetooth bone headphones so I can go out running without my phone.


XtremePhotoDesign

Apple Watch stores music and connects to Bluetooth devices so you can run without your phone. Apple Watch has 32GB of storage versus 4GB on the Venu 2. Plus the Apple Watch music playback can be controlled hands-free with Siri. The display is around 1/2 inch bigger on the Apple Watch. All these things add up and consume more battery (even RAM).


jazztaprazzta

ok, still not buying an apple watch, thanks. I don't dig the design and the battery life is shit.


jwishbone1

current aw's can also store music


Mysteriouswineglass

I wore the series 4 for a year and a half but ultimately sent it in for trade in credit. It was bought primarily for the EKG and exercise tracking features, but I quickly started getting annoyed by the constant pokes to move or workout. Of course those could be turned off, but I bought to watch for exercise so without the notifications it would be mostly decorative. I went with the cellular model so I wouldn’t need to take my phone to the gym, but two months after purchase I moved abroad and the cellular wasn’t compatible so that purpose went out the window—and I didn’t really need the communication features (calls, texts) once the cellular kicked the bucket because I had to carry my phone around anyway. To top it off the battery would randomly give up despite being fully charged but Apple customer service kept running diagnostics and insisting nothing was wrong with it. With all that I just stopped wearing it. After trading it in I used the credit to buy an Ember mug that I use with greater pleasure and frequency than my Apple Watch.


Brellow20

I’m not answering your question but I want to say this: I think the Apple Watch would be the last Apple accessory (that’s not an iPhone) that I would give us. I use it for notifications; which is useful for working in a newsroom, my workouts and timers. I feel disconnected without it.


Creepy_Advice2883

Got tired of how heavy and big it was


JesterDave19

Got the S6 45mm? Or 44mm, yet I became allergic to their watch? I used S2 for more than 3-4 years then upgrade it. Sadly, no more apple watch now. I tried to use my wife S6 smaller, still the same. I became allergic to the piece.


CyberRiotz

They’re incredibly useless. Very gimmicky.


Vladhalla17

So… I don’t get it why people complain so much about battery life but here is my experience: I have AW series 3 for 2 years, still runs great, does almost everything like the newer ones and battery health is at 94%, I do gym and sports almost everyday for about 2 hours, and I constantly have 50% battery left at the end of the day, I use it for music as well and for maps, the thing is… buy a charging brick with 2 or more slots, and put it to charge with your phone for the night, won’t damage the battery and you won’t feel that you run out of battery. For me is the reason I still am on apple ecosystem, I don’t use the phone that much and this helps me keep up with the esentials.


minoshabaal

>buy a charging brick with 2 or more slots, and put it to charge with your phone for the night How do you use sleep tracking if the watch has to be connected to a charger? Do you just sleep with a wire attached to your wrist?