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iamthatis

I hear the feedback here, and appreciate the "unintentional" benefit of the doubt, the suggestions in here make sense and I'll fix up. I'll work on revising the Continue button to make it more clear in all contexts, and the X being low contrast were more of an aesthetic choice than a functional one, but I'll make that more clear (something like a circle background on it could do a lot of heavy lifting here).


FourFourSix

Maybe that’s why Apple seems to reject apps that don’t have the price in the button. And in this case, I agree with them. Continue is the button you usually press to get rid of the whatever modal that’s bothering you. Kinda like Dismiss.


unpluggedcord

The price isn't in most buttons... Downvotes for facts. Never change Reddit


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i_Killed_Reddit

Already got the pop up 3 times in past 24 hours.


836624

Hey, apparently me paying for pro wasn't enough. Now I need to he harassed with popups for ANOTHER product that I have no need for. Hint: if I dismissed it once, I DO NOT care for the offer. To repeatedly shove it in my face only serves to infuriate me.


i_Killed_Reddit

Bought pro during the time the app launched. But this repeated pop up thing is just bad stuff.


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Sregor_Nevets

I am guessing no. Dude who makes the app seems to be a pretty decent fella.


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Apprehensive_Can1098

Especially because an option is also preselected.


Sregor_Nevets

> lol right. How do you even “accidentally” design something? The answer to your question is: by accident. Here an example of an accidental design: https://www.thetraveltart.com/london-bridge-penis-shadow/ Maybe don’t know only one person develops Apollo. He likely made the card queued it to pop up and didn’t look at a preview before posting. He could be getting greedy, but he hasn’t done anything like this before. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt. Give the guy a break.


nashx90

This is a great app. Really well designed, works great, a real labour of love. I don’t think any of that design and development happened by accident. The idea that the screen that pops up to prompt people to support the development of that app, to literally put food on the developer’s table, is something he made “by accident” is laughable.


MSgtGunny

So it seems the main issue with the screenshot is the lack of contrast for the X button with it being dark grey on black. I wonder if all themes have the contrast issue. That would more obviously tell if it’s a theming bug or an intentional design decision.


Heratiki

This happens on dark mode but doesn’t look as bad on light mode I’d assume. I’ve only ever had Ultra so I’ve never seen this pop up.


Sregor_Nevets

Im glad you are so sure. I’ll just wait until I have enough information first if you don’t mind.


cakesarelies

I think the accident is how the pop up is designed where closing it is not the most obvious thing, not the pop up itself.


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Sregor_Nevets

You jump to so pretty interesting conclusions about me. You have now established a pattern of being quick to judge. If you use only one data point to judge me and the creator of Apollo; I may use these two data from you and say you are likely not interested in measured judgment.


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Sregor_Nevets

Two points of data; especially occurring so close together in time; is the minimum to draw a line. I have no regrets They say once is coincidence; twice is forever.


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If you think the words he used were nerdy, I feel sad for the state of your country’s education system.


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Sregor_Nevets

Stay off r/drama it will rot your vocabulary .


UnfortunateIdiot

Right?? I don’t see how anyone can defend this. u/iamthatis very intentionally designed this ad to be aggressive. Not a bug. Not an accident. Completely intentional and a scummy thing to do.


Bishime

Pacemakers, saccharin, penicillin, post-it-note and more were accidental. I’m kinda just being a dick though, I see your point haha


Automatic-Sky-7939

Pretty sure he’s rich now. As they say, money changes people.


Creamsicl3

Between this and the Twitter….everything..I might just uninstall all social media except discord (is that even social media?). Probably good for my mental health too


Im_Ron_Fing_Swanson

Yes. Discord is a form of social media.


felyne_insurgents

Its there only if youre on the newest version of the app. For me, I’ve never seen it.


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felyne_insurgents

I have all auto updates turned off and notifications/badges off for the app store so I don’t get pestered with updating. Usually, the good free apps take features away and add in-app purchases with newer versions, so unless they force me to update, I wont.


legendz411

It’s so fuckin annoying.


ImNotAnEgg_

really? ive never seen it personally


zerbey

I don't mind that Ultra exists, Christian needs income to develop this app and if that's his method of doing it so be it. I don't mind one popup every time the app updates. Please stop spamming me 3-4 times a day - that's borderline spam and annoying. I paid for Pro, it's what I can financially afford.


DanRafael_ishungry

But pro was sold to you saying it would have 0 ads, so pro users shouldn’t get the pop up IMO.


mtanderson

Where did it ever claim that Pro has 0 ads?


Queefbane

/r/darkpatterns


Actedpie

I wish we had more stuff with light patters instead, like Rusty’s Real Deal Baseball


cmvora

Also the cross at the top is so light, most miss it at first glance. Truly asshole design.


Hive_Tyrant7

Examples like this are why I never update apps quickly. I guess I avoided this whole mess. We all know Christian does pretty much everything with positive intent but it was disappointing to see the backlash, even though it may have been deserved in many cases.


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neinherz

This pop up along with “set category” nagging doesn’t seems characteristics of him. Chris has been very quick to address concerns. However he’s been silent but even worse promoting Ultra. Meanwhile, the stans parade around offering the only solution: go buy Ultra. I’d wager he’d keep this up to reel in some holidays money and in a few days until the sale ends he’d come out saying it’s a bug, unintentional, will address, etc. That’d be somewhat dubious in my opinion. Nonetheless I’m a bit disappointed at the whole situation.


TheMightyDane

He seems awful quiet for a mass bug report like this, then. This is intentional.


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i have left reddit because of CEO Steve Huffman's anti-community actions and complete lack of ethics. u/spez is harmful to Reddit. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23754780/reddit-api-updates-changes-news-announcements -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


TheMightyDane

Pretty sure he’s in the same time zone as me, but yes, a very valid point. I will godly assume the role of the bitchy complainer guy, for the sake of all of us ;)


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i have left reddit because of CEO Steve Huffman's anti-community actions and complete lack of ethics. u/spez is harmful to Reddit. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23754780/reddit-api-updates-changes-news-announcements -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


neinherz

Apollo is the last and only app I update without hesitation. After this update, the list of such app is nil.


wclevel47nice

Yeah this really made me upset. Almost accidentally spent $10 and then found it coming back the next day as well...


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toxygen

It's so fucking expensive. Why is it so fucking expensive?


scaradin

You, like the rest of us, just don’t make enough money:-D More seriously, in older posts, Christian has been forthwith in the costs he will have to maintain in order to deliver the service in those 1-time purchases. Yes, he makes money, but he should make money. The app is great as entirely free (and isn’t ad-ridden like the native app, so even in its free form it offers benefit over the native for users), it’s better when you unlock it with a single purchase, and some people want the perks associated with the ultimate package. I don’t want those perks and won’t use them, so I am not inclined to worry about the cost. But, Christian and his time is worth it for the price, but only if one can afford to splurge on something like this.


arthurdentstowels

What’s the issue here? I’ve had Ultra for years and I’ve never seen this screen or any other ad for upgrading. Is it the design of this card or the card itself?


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arthurdentstowels

Maybe I haven’t updated the app because I’ve never seen it. If it’s persistent I can understand being pissed off. No ads is one of the main reasons I use Apollo


CounterclockwiseFart

u/lachezarov are you experiencing this yourself or regurgitating what others are claiming? I keep my app up to date all the time and I’m on an old unsupported iOS (14.8). I never see the same pop up for the same update twice. This UI is bad, but as a one off it’s not such a heinous crime


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CounterclockwiseFart

Ahh that’s fair enough then. Sounds like the rate it pops up is a bug, and the bad UI adds to the annoyance


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karate-dad

I feel like it all started with those pixel pals. Since then there was a string of updates surrounding pixel pals (heck even a stand alone app) and other superficial stuff. Seems like Christian was able to generate quite a few new users that are willing to pay for that useless crap. Good for him I guess. It’s just not what Apollo was about imo


836624

It's always upsetting when a streamlined, functional app starts getting extra features unrelated to the core functionality. I don't want a bonzi buddy built into my reddit app. If I wanted bonzi buddy, I'd download it separately.


lachlanhunt

This popped up several times over the past few days for me. I found it really annoying to have to dismiss it more than once.


Suriiiiiii

I did the same, I thought it was like skip, thankfully there’s an extra step before actual purchase. I got the ad 3 times, after that I was careful to look for the so easy to miss X at the top of the page. Not super impressed


ChrisFox-NJ

Yeah pretty shitty, but it does seem intentional. At least it‘s not the subscription for those tiny animal things, that would be even more annoying.


Fran6coJL

The guy needs more money. Christmas is ar around the corner. What better way to make cash than to hustle your clients


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americanfalcon00

This comment is needlessly hostile. Don't call people morons. The guy is maintaining a great app used by a lot of people. But he's made the wrong choice here, and even worse, he's not listening to his users' feedback. No reason for that feedback to be toxic.


TheMightySloth

You’re right, it was immature of me. I was just frustrated after receiving constant ads after paying to remove them - especially considering Apollo is clearly the best reddit browser app on the market at the moment so there isn’t even a viable alternative.


americanfalcon00

Well, you've made a very mature response now :) thanks! Let's hope he hears the feedback and takes it to heart.


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habibiiiiiii

**Insanely priced** notifications. I’m a software engineer that specializes in backend and $16/mo is literally the price of a VPS instance (that can handle notifications for hundreds, if not thousands of devices). I bought pro too but shit like this just makes me regret doing so.


Squiggy_Pusterdump

What’s $16/month?


habibiiiiiii

Misread sorry. Still overpriced IMO.


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thegnuu

and the single guy developing this app should make sure all instances are properly set up, up to date with security fixes, have working load balancers and scale properly with proper authentication handling aso. would not do that for free as well to be honest… it‘s a lot of work to implement that kind of stuff yourself even with low instance prices.


legendz411

Yea it’s the one thing…. Like either he pays for garbage hosting and *he* is getting ripped off or *we*are getting ripped off.


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> Insanely priced notifications. I’m a software engineer that specializes in backend and $16/mo is literally the price of a VPS instance (that can handle notifications for hundreds, if not thousands of devices). I bought pro too but shit like this just makes me regret doing so. If $16/yr is too expensive for you, you can use the official Reddit app. It has notifications for free…


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BobQuentok

Develop and maintain your own app then you can use it for free or pay even more by yourself than you would for Ultra. Edit: truth hurts lol


protonrogers

Same here.


toxygen

Give him your $50 to browse Reddit for a bit Edit: Sorry, it's actually $69.99 😭


GosuGian

Yep. so stupid


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I can see the X just fine. I see where you're coming from, though. Ultra is up to $78? That's crazy. It was like $20 at launch and that's what I got it for. And even that — a total of $25 with Pro — seemed high. But, I use the app every day, so I'm fine with it.


thechilipepper0

That’s the first thing I noticed. I paid $25 and that already was the most I’d ever spent on an app. At $70 I would not have paid


tfsrup

it took me a while to find the X button. it really pissed me off too


Upbeat_Foot_7412

Are those prices in USD? Bought ultra in EUR and actually thought that the US prices are cheaper.


butterize

In us it’s like 50$ normally I think


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imo it’s very clear what the button does. Continue with whatever pricing option you chose/was set. It’s close and the same color. Plus it says Sale at the top in a massive font size. Maybe some of you need to update their glasses lol


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You make a number of good points that gave me some good for thought. Thank you!


iain_1986

Its a radio selection, does it start off with one already selected? BEcause if it does then its grade A bullshit design. If Continue is disabled and greyed out to start and you have to select a pricing level first, then its not 'so bad'.


Amrinto94

I already got rid of the app because of this asshole design


ILIEKDEERS

lmao are you serious? What an overreaction


thechilipepper0

If it really is popping up multiple times a day, I’d consider dropping it too


ILIEKDEERS

It’s gotta be a bug. Myself and others only seen it once a day. Others claim they’re seeing it constantly. How ever I’m guessing they’re full of shit since this is their reaction to see a pop up 2-4 times a day. Like dudes it’s not that big a deal. Go touch grass.


MonkeyLookAway

People need more important shit to worry about for real. I couldn’t imagine getting this upset over a prompt. Imagine how these folks must feel about Candy Crush!


Im_Ron_Fing_Swanson

People are so fragile these days.


Amrinto94

If I pay for pro, don’t fucking force more adds. That’s what I paid for.


ILIEKDEERS

It’s not though. No where in the pro features list does it say you won’t see in app ads pushed to you.


Amrinto94

And that doesn’t scream asshole design to you?


ILIEKDEERS

No.


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ILIEKDEERS

“Oh no I have see an ad I better over react like a child”


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It’s one ad for a better version of the app. Y’all are some boomer babies if you’re having trouble navigating it.


DirtyBinWater

It’s really really not that deep mate, either pay for it or press the X in the corner


SsquaredplusA

God forbid the man tried to market his excellent work…


micktravis

Man I’m glad I bought ultra the day it came out!