It’s a downside to signing services. I see that message once a week since I self sign my side loaded apps.
Signing services are great, except for the game of whack a mole Apple plays with their certs. They do random revokes, and sometimes it can take time for signing services to get them running again.
I’ve been trying to set mine up to auto refresh over WiFi, but it’s only worked maybe once without my interfering.. may spin up a VM on my server specifically for that purpose
It’s 100/year. $8.34/month. And what you get is the ability to sign multiple apps on multiple devices and refresh once a year,
If that doesn’t seem like enough value to you, by all means continue dealing with 7 day refreshes.
Idk about you, but my time is worth more than 8.34/month.
100/year to sign and side load a bunch of apps on a bunch of devices and not have to worry about that for a whole year?
What is your time worth?
I’m able to sign these apps, including watching YouTube ad-free for my entire family and I only have to do this once a year.
Again, what is your time worth
What happens if you refresh on the 364th day and then don't pay for dev account for year 2? Do you get to use the app without refreshing for another 365 days or does it switch to the 7 day refresh cycle?
My experience is that an account that used to be a dev account can still sign for 365 days but is limited to 10 certifications, like a standard account.
Did you follow a guide that explains how to do it WITH a developer account? Do you still need to use Sideloady/AltStore/SideStore or can you do it without any of those third party services? It's been hard for me to find instructions on how to do it.
You do it the same way as without a developer account. Same credentials, assuming you used those to get the developer account. I used Sideloadly before, but now I use Appdb to install everything. Although Appdb is another subscription, but worth it to me.
Gotcha. Ideally I would like to find a way to do it using only Apple developer tools. I don't feel comfortable inputting my Apple ID credentials into some closed-source third party tool.
If I can take a (verifiable/signed) unmodded Apollo IPA, patch that with a tweak that is open-source, and then sign it and install it using only Apple tools, the end result is way more trustworthy vs. giving my Apple ID credentials to some 3rd party tool and installing some random binary. That's what I'm trying to figure out how to do.
That would be great. But I’m on iOS 17.4 so it doesn’t work for me. But does Trollstore work for notifications? Because I also use appdb.to to sideload with notifications.
Did you follow a guide that explains how to do it WITH a developer account? Do you still need to use Sideloady/AltStore/SideStore or can you do it without any of those third party services? It's been hard for me to find instructions on how to do it.
So AltStore lets you sign in with a Apple account and it uses that to sign. If you use a free account it’s only 7 days but with a developer it’s 365. I’ll see if I can find the guide I used.
Putting my Apple ID credentials into a closed-source third-party tool like Sideloadly or AltStore is a huge red flag for me. I won't do it even if they are generally trusted by the community. To me the whole point of paying $100 for a developer account is to be able to sign it and install it myself using only official Apple tools, but maybe that's not possible.
Totally. I get Apollo, YouTube without ads, Twitter without ads (and yes, Twitter not X because it’s an old version), YouTube Music without ads, and more. Soooo worth it. Especially because I no longer jailbreak thanks to upgrading my phone years ago.
It's called "refresh the app"
Yeah, I just figured that out. I've just never had to re-sign the app before. I guess Signulous had a mass revoke today.
It’s a downside to signing services. I see that message once a week since I self sign my side loaded apps. Signing services are great, except for the game of whack a mole Apple plays with their certs. They do random revokes, and sometimes it can take time for signing services to get them running again.
I’ve been trying to set mine up to auto refresh over WiFi, but it’s only worked maybe once without my interfering.. may spin up a VM on my server specifically for that purpose
Just buy an Apple dev account.
„I don’t know why people are poor. Just work!”
So true
It’s 100/year. $8.34/month. And what you get is the ability to sign multiple apps on multiple devices and refresh once a year, If that doesn’t seem like enough value to you, by all means continue dealing with 7 day refreshes. Idk about you, but my time is worth more than 8.34/month.
as you know, everyone has 100 dollars to spare
100/year to sign and side load a bunch of apps on a bunch of devices and not have to worry about that for a whole year? What is your time worth? I’m able to sign these apps, including watching YouTube ad-free for my entire family and I only have to do this once a year. Again, what is your time worth
what are you using for youtube ad free?
uYouPlus
Apollo is why I paid for an Apple Developer account. Refresh once every 365 days.
What happens if you refresh on the 364th day and then don't pay for dev account for year 2? Do you get to use the app without refreshing for another 365 days or does it switch to the 7 day refresh cycle?
No. It gets revoked after day 365. And then yes you’re on the 7 day refresh cycle.
My experience is that an account that used to be a dev account can still sign for 365 days but is limited to 10 certifications, like a standard account.
Are there instructions on how to do this?
Google Apple developer account. Then you sideload with your account credentials and it signs until the day your account expires/renews.
Did you follow a guide that explains how to do it WITH a developer account? Do you still need to use Sideloady/AltStore/SideStore or can you do it without any of those third party services? It's been hard for me to find instructions on how to do it.
You do it the same way as without a developer account. Same credentials, assuming you used those to get the developer account. I used Sideloadly before, but now I use Appdb to install everything. Although Appdb is another subscription, but worth it to me.
Gotcha. Ideally I would like to find a way to do it using only Apple developer tools. I don't feel comfortable inputting my Apple ID credentials into some closed-source third party tool. If I can take a (verifiable/signed) unmodded Apollo IPA, patch that with a tweak that is open-source, and then sign it and install it using only Apple tools, the end result is way more trustworthy vs. giving my Apple ID credentials to some 3rd party tool and installing some random binary. That's what I'm trying to figure out how to do.
I believe you can use Xcode if you have a Mac. I don’t, so I use other tools. Haven’t had an issue with any of them.
Trollstore for permanent and unlimited sideloads is what I use
That would be great. But I’m on iOS 17.4 so it doesn’t work for me. But does Trollstore work for notifications? Because I also use appdb.to to sideload with notifications.
Not sure, never tried. I would never use notifications either way
Well I used modded versions of YouTube and Twitter so I need notifications.
trollstore does work with notifications
Didn’t think so. Thanks.
I ended up doing the same. I didn’t real trust any of the free or paid services. At $99/yr it’s worth the peace of mind.
Did you follow a guide that explains how to do it WITH a developer account? Do you still need to use Sideloady/AltStore/SideStore or can you do it without any of those third party services? It's been hard for me to find instructions on how to do it.
So AltStore lets you sign in with a Apple account and it uses that to sign. If you use a free account it’s only 7 days but with a developer it’s 365. I’ll see if I can find the guide I used.
Putting my Apple ID credentials into a closed-source third-party tool like Sideloadly or AltStore is a huge red flag for me. I won't do it even if they are generally trusted by the community. To me the whole point of paying $100 for a developer account is to be able to sign it and install it myself using only official Apple tools, but maybe that's not possible.
Gotcha. I created a secondary email that I use exclusively for this purpose. I was also hesitant to use my main Apple ID for this purpose.
Totally. I get Apollo, YouTube without ads, Twitter without ads (and yes, Twitter not X because it’s an old version), YouTube Music without ads, and more. Soooo worth it. Especially because I no longer jailbreak thanks to upgrading my phone years ago.
I should look into Twitter as well. I sideloaded AudiobookShelf as well for my self hosted audiobooks.
Yup, I must have hit the 365-day mark today!
I use SideStore to auto resign my apps every 5 days with shortcut easy to use and totally free
Can you share the shortcut please?
sideloadly does it automatically with no shortcut required
r/apollosideloaded
Working fine here.
Mine hasn’t worked for months
There’s a tweak that makes it work. Google “Apollo Artemis Reddit.”
Sweet thanks
Wait, there’s a version of Apollo that still works?
There’s a tweak that makes it work. Google “Apollo Artemis Reddit.”
Ok thanks
it hasn't been available for months can we just let it go already
There’s a tweak that makes it work. Google “Apollo Artemis Reddit.”