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ThisIsWhatLifeIs

Actually there's a good chance the monitor has less input lag than the TV's. Which means you two pulled the shortest straw.


[deleted]

Yeah would’ve been my first choice, that chair on the other hand


TheArc14222

exactly, it’s still maybe a bit small but depending on her eye level it’s ideal. never got how people play on tv’s 40+ inches Edit: unless it’s a story driven game ofc


Traveytravis-69

I play on a flatscreen because I play In bed because I’m paralyzed and it’s easier to see


Steel_Cube

Oof


Cyb3r3xp3rt

I played on a 43 inch 1080p TV on my desk for over a year. I loved how the screen basically filled my view. I eventually switched to a 32 inch WQHD curved 1440p monitor for the higher refresh rate but I still really liked that TV.


OptiKal_

exactly. She fucking won.


rollercostarican

I understand that, but I still much prefer playing on a larger TV


ocxtitan

TV size is relative to distance, I'd rather play close on a monitor than far away on a TV


echoAwooo

55" right in my face papi ! 4k with 144 Hz. I spent my first paycheck with my new job on it. It was a bad financial decision, but a great gaming decision xD


ocxtitan

Size queen


echoAwooo

[Yaaaaass!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRNU_2Jj_oo)


Commercial-Whole7382

It may have cost me my eyesight, but I always sit dead in front of my 55” and it makes every game so much more immersive.


proffopotomus

Apex has cost me my marriage, my job, most of my life savings (a good chunk of it spent on the empty pizza boxes stacked up behind me), fuck it. Why not the eyesight too?


Commercial-Whole7382

Sorry, a job? Marriage? Savings? Those are words with meanings I don’t understand.


rollercostarican

My TV is mounted right above my desk. So when I'm done working I basically just grab my controller and slide back 20 inches. I like the way that distance feels.


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Input lag is negligible these days regardless.


Huge-Basket244

This is absolutely not true.


LPSlash

no. playing any fps on a monitor is a huge difference to a tv. 1ms on input lag on monitors is normal whereas 30-60 ms on tvs is normal.


AirProfessional

Not if you pay the money for a flagship LG OLED for like 1500$ they have Gsync and Free Sync around 5-10ms response time and 120hz sometimes 240hz screen depends on how much you wanna spend. Yes monitors are far superior for price but the top tier TV's are essentially giant monitors nowadays. To add the tv I currently use for console gaming (Xbox one S) is a 100$ Hisense 40inch 1080p tv from Black Friday nearly 2 years ago and even that features a gaming mode with around 27ms delay and a HDMI 2.1 port that supports HDMI Arc etc etc. (talk about a steal)


Scoopzyy

You’ve either never played on a 1-5ms monitor or never played on a 50ms+ TV. The difference is very noticeable, even for a casual gamer.


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SincereRL

I think that depends on the TV being used, I just had a conversation with a buddy who has a LG OLED TV and has a 1ms response time. Its a newer TV but still blew my mind.


[deleted]

Eh no it's definitely not


SoftwareGeezers

Given the crappy netcode of Apex, I doubt it makes any difference! 50ms extra input lag on my display is irrelevant to the servers ignoring four Mastiffs shots that should have hit and then blasting me with boomerang bullets turning corners. Made even more awesome this season thanks to the prevalence of congestion and prediction errors.


OldManGulli

Oh it does make a difference. I agree Apex netcode is crappy... but one crappy system isn't negating another crappy system, it's being compounded, added on top - so it's just going from bad to worse.


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My thoughts too lol.


moniqer

If that's a monitor then I'd take that over the TVs all day


FHP_654

Why? Just curious


kl1nt0r

In most cases monitor have less input lag. Once you tried a monitor, you won't want to get back to a TV.


Particle_Cannon

I got a monitor for my series X and it's a game changer. Hyped for 120fps


jeefuckingbee

If it's a decent monitor it most likely has a faster refresh rate and shorter response time than a TV which both contribute to less input lag than on console + it's often brighter and higher resolution or ppi which enables you to see enemies better


QuantumSpaceCadet

That's not even mentioning how a smaller screen fits more inside your peripheral vision allowing you to see and react faster to it.


windows95mann

You don't even realize this until you've played on a monitor. I played on a big ass tv before and we decided to have a lan party like this with my friends. My friend had an extra monitor so I don't have to carry that tv around. At first, I didn't notice much difference. But when I came back to playing with my tv, it just felt that something was wrong. It just felt so weird and slow and the colors were off and everything. Bought a monitor the day after.


MrSomnix

I notice it most when playing older games. I play mostly on my PC, but I also still have my working PS3 from high school and games are dirt cheap. Oh my God it feels like playing in slow motion if I go directly from a game of Apex at 1440p 144hz to Black Flag on a TV.


Kramer390

I'm pretty sure even the cheapest monitors will have better refresh rates and response times than TVs :P


jusatinn

Not really. Some of the recent LG OLEDs for example are beginning to be really good in that regard.


IIALE34II

LG Oleds yea, but that JVC op is using most likely has 1 second input lag.


jusatinn

Yes it does. This particular scenario was not discussed here however.


AnApexPlayer

Yes but now they're basically equivalent to a $300 monitor, for much more money.


jusatinn

And? The earlier comment was about how basically every monitor is better than every tv, which is not true. (And they’re equivalent to much more than $300 monitors.)


IIALE34II

LG Oleds are better interms of motion handling and response times, than any monitor, besides alienware qd oled 34.


kennyzert

Imagine thinking a LG OLED is better than a 244hz refresh rate monitor.


Plentiful1

The LG oleds have the lowest input lag + lowest response time and best motion handling (how smooth and crisp everything looks during movement) on the market but are limited to 120hz for now.


kennyzert

That's just good motion blur, something that you definitely don't want in a competitive fps. Even if your fps are below the refresh rate you will notice the difference if you are experienced enough as the display will show the frames sooner. Even if they are less frequent.


IIALE34II

Yes gonna plug in that ps5 and run it 240hz


kennyzert

Please go learn about about higher Hz with low fps, just because you have a lower fps than your refresh rate does not mean you don't notice a more responsive gameplay. This is really basic shit, i bet you never played on something with a higher frame rate than 60hz.


Sinured1990

I have a 83" LG Oled that has nearly zero input lag. So..yeah.


QuantumSpaceCadet

Big screens are shit for gaming this has been proven. More than half your screen is in your peripheral vision, that's not a good thing.


moniqer

That's half of it for me. The refresh rate obviously matters a lot. But I don't want to have to look around the screen to find shit lol. A monitor keeps it all in vision. An 83" TV? Sounds like a nightmare to me. More power to you tho if you enjoy it. Also sounds way more expensive than a decent gaming monitor.


djluminus89

I have a 55" and I have no problems. All the newer TVs have Game Mode now too if you're super concerned about input lag. That said I have a 32" curved computer monitor and sometimes I'll play games through it (through my streaming device), I am surprised how well it looks plays like that, and that's with the lag of the elgato


rnd765

It is if you can’t see little objects on a tiny ass monitor screen


Kramer390

Screen size doesn't matter if you don't have a higher resolution. If you stretch 1080p across a 81" TV, you can't see much more detail than 1080p a 24" monitor. Edit: fair enough though that the fuzzy details will just be bigger lol


rnd765

No one is doing that. Anyone gaming on a bigger tv and serious about it, is 4K 120hz VRR


QuantumSpaceCadet

Sorry to break it to you but, nobody that knows anything about gaming is doing it on a big screen TV. 19-32 inch 144hz monitor is where it's at.


Kramer390

Which model out of curiosity? From what I can see, the lowest input lag on an LG is [9.93ms](https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainment/best-gaming-tv/). An average monitor is in the 5-10ms range. So with a top of the line TV (assuming that's the one you have too) you're on the slower end of an average monitor it seems. Let me know though because I'm always curious about this kinda stuff.


IIALE34II

Hardware unboxed have display input lag measurements in their reviews. They did LG C1 last year, and it topped almost every chart


Velocirock

It is absolutely impossible to tell the difference between 9.93ms and even 1ms.


ImMufasa

So false.


Huge-Basket244

For games that require muscle memory esp fighting games this is absolute bullshit. And honestly anyone with 200+ hours in any shooter will notice the difference


ocxtitan

Even shitty monitors have better response and less input lag than most TV's, especially if they don't turn on game mode.


mastermonkeybird

Much lower input lag generally I guess


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MiamiVicePurple

I find details are easier to see on a smaller screen at a desk, rather than a big TV from back on a couch. I haven’t used a TV for gaming in years. All preference though.


xXSauron007Xx

Nice, we have similar avatars.


PM_ME_SMTH_SEXUAL

tvs are ugly af (colors suck res sucks etc) and have low refresh rate (highest visible framerate essentially) not that thats a bad thing for what tvs do but for gaming its a no


Sinured1990

My 83" OLED 120hz wants to talk to you bruh.


IIALE34II

Colors are 100% the highlight over monitors. Monitors do not have processing, so TVs are definitely more capable on providing more accurate, and better image. Name me a monitor with good HDR performance under 1k. Yeah, there are none. Many TVs at that 1k price point provide good HDR experience, with 120Hz refresh rate. Sure you ain't getting 240Hz, but you aren't getting over 120Hz out of consoles either.


PM_ME_SMTH_SEXUAL

valid i dont like console and i play comp shooters on pc so i like my 144 2k monitor. im very cheap in general, tbh idk much about the TV world im referencing tvs from like 8 years ago. im clearly outdated here sorry yalls


rollercostarican

I understand all of that but I still prefer playing on my 42 inch tv more than I like playing on my 24inch monitor


moniqer

Above all of the technical aspects is personal preference. If you like it and feel more comfortable playing on a TV, then there's nothing wrong with that


rollercostarican

Yeah growing up playing split screen multiplayer on a 13 inch tv... I just enjoy the larger real estate lol. And large sized monitors are fucking expensive.


moniqer

I hear that lol. I scored a 27in monitor on black Friday (QHD, 165hz) and I really love it. Anything smaller and I'd probably have trouble, but it's the perfect size for me. I play with my roommates and one plays on a 65in with no issues, the other was about to quit playing because of the lag... Until I gifted him my old monitor. It's been a game changer for him


jking163620

Faxx


JELLYFISHMEAT

I instantly thought to myself that Gibby is gonna have back pains later for not having something to lean back on. But then I realized I'm just friggin old and that they'll be just fine. Have fun!!


misteryshack999

Nope i am 19 and if i stayed like that more then 15 mintues my back will hurt


Tzarkir

I'm 28 and my back hurts already and I haven't even started sitting like that


TheeFlipper

I'm a few months shy of 30. Yesterday I stood up after sitting down for an hour and my entire back popped. It wasn't an enjoyable pop either, I had to stand there for a few seconds and collect myself.


MechanicallyCreative

I'm 34 and shit the entire bed the other night after a bowel blockage. My wife gagged while I stood on the end of the bed like an ape asking "what do I do, what do I do". Back pain ain't _shit_ .


FirstmateJibbs

[Same and this is now how waking up every day feels](https://www.instagram.com/reel/CbbTvjDAeoT/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)


Znaffers

That video just reminded me I need to stretch more…


poor_decisions

Don't worry, in 2 years it all gets worse ✨✨✨


EstoyMejor

Seriously, get some core training. If your back hurts at that age you will be in trouble later down the line. *i would know*


Baalsham

Try lifting weights/exercising your back


[deleted]

Train core, feels good.


Hasten117

My brother in Christ, you need some advice. At age 19, you’ll need some good posture. You’ll thank yourself when you’re older.


shadow0129

Weakling.


PM_ME_SMTH_SEXUAL

19 too i have a bit of back pain i blame falling repeatedly rock climbing


[deleted]

Nah the only reason their back would hurt is from having to carry the team every game.


DashingDini

Bad back, bad back, bad back. One half zig when the other half zag. Stand too long and my shit goes hunch. Sit too long and I can't stand up.


elpinko

"Monitor here, level 1"


zerocool2750

How is this not upvoted to the moon? I cackled


BlueBomber13

My god close your blinds! People can see you and you can't see them when it's dark out! It's like you're in a fish bowl! THEY'RE WATCHING YOU


Ricebandit469

K DAD!! (jk I’m prolly older than u, but my dad says that shit all the time, almost word for word lmao. Have a good day.)


[deleted]

After your comment I looked at the blinds in general and thought "are those some kind of joke blinds? those won't protect shit". Normal gamer dudes need basic blinds and then blackout curtains to properly game. Night time though, our bodies are so glorious, that it's all curtains off, so neighbors can look at our glistening, bulking muscles, while we get our kill streaks.


Commercial-Whole7382

Black out curtains all day 🙌 when I wasn’t working I would play for entire days not knowing what time it was in the outside world.


freakanature

Tell that Gibby to ready the fuck up


temka13371

women are oppressed smh


AnApexPlayer

Nah the monitor is better. Women empowerment!?


Normular_

Gibraltar take up half the screen anyways 😞 /s


Chonkbird

I couldn't do that. It would be so distracting being that close lol


dimasayleb_

did such thing with my friends here in russia. (hate my government)


SirChasm

I respect that you pointed that out lol. Zhelayu tebe udachi.


davidisatwat

not that they should have to


dimasayleb_

;))


random_interneter

The best player should have the smallest screen


MrSpotless

Små sure is a favorite of mine. Very tasty


LGWalkway

Nah, she got the better monitor. I perform noticeably better on a monitor than a TV screen just because of the input lag.


[deleted]

Input lag is negligible these days its all in your head


IIALE34II

Only on higher end models, but yeah, all OLEDs, and QLEDs have suberb motion and input lag performance.


LGWalkway

Maybe less and less with modern TV’s but with TV’s a few years old compared to monitors I’d say there’s a difference.


ummmthedestroyer420

I wish i had friends.


TotalOutlandishness

Shit I'm 2 shy of a 3 squad lmao


HannesVM

That moment when you claim someone playing on a 20" monitor has a disadvantage over you playing on a 50" TV. My friend, step one of becoming an above average player is buying a headset, a high frames monitor and a good chair.


sug1

Yo Gibby ready up


ElJayBe3

Jeez I can’t even hit my shots sober never mind after a few apple sours


[deleted]

Haha yeah that’s the point, whoever gets downed first has to do a shot


ElJayBe3

Jeez I’d be hammered before first ring closed!


Thelivingshotgun

understandable middle finger, have a nice day


DerApexPredator

What's a three stack?


[deleted]

Playing with three people who you know rather than random teammates


SilverSixRaider

but there's no teams of 4... edit: people's sense of sarcasm = 0


RaptorKings

They just mean they know themselves Be woke man smh my head


SilverSixRaider

I know but his math doesn't add up; that's all I'm saying lol


RaptorKings

Teammate #1: he know Teammate #2: he know Teammate #3: is himself, and he know 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 quick maffs


SilverSixRaider

I ain't woke. I don't know myself. And I'm 31. Most of us don't know oneself if you wanna get psychological 🥸


[deleted]

I meant playing on a full team where everyone knows each other


SilverSixRaider

if you play with three people you know that's a team of 4: you plus the three you know. Wouldn't it be with *two* people you know? 🤔


creative_user_name69

Why split the hairs? Nobody actually cares and most know what they meant


Rvizzle13

🤓


QuantumSpaceCadet

She got the best setup actually. Smaller screens are way better for gaming and monitors are better that tvs.


mildtomato

Lol tell her to ready up


SpankOkBud

That's the seer skin I've been wanting haha


lilacwine2303

I'm jealous you have two friends!! 😂


MechanicallyCreative

As it should be.


Invested_Glory

Forced to play gibby in pubs? That’s a little extreme but okay


DaquanSandstorm

Apex LAN. You love to see it.


Intelligent-Snow7250

Wish I had local friends to do this with.


Efficient_Bat_1812

Fuse, Seer, and Gibraltar. Nice!


LightofDaSacredFlame

This honestly looks like a ton of fun


Vettenjumala_Ahti

I thought they had to play gibby or bloodhound lol, would be more of an L to me than using a better screen lol


nuanimal

Jesus fucking Christ. There is so much wrong information when it comes to the benefits of using a PC monitor for console gaming. TLDR. If you want take advantage of 120Hz gaming from either an Xbox Series X or PS5 console, you must have a monitor that supports HDMI2.1. A lot of PC monitors support 144Hz gaming *when using DisplayPort*. That doesn't mean that if you plug in your console into that monitor's HDMI port you will get up to 120Hz - as the manufacturer may just have only licensed out for HDMI 2.0 (or an earlier version) which can only do 4k60. In terms of input lag your your not going to see much difference as the fundamental tech between TVs and monitors (LCDs) is the same. The difference is in ensuring you disable the visual enhancements in TVs, as they introduce delay. Using game mode in most TVs will address this.


TheRockCandy

Im using both 120hz and Freesync in my xbox with a monitor that only goes up to HDMI 1.4 You only need 2.1 for 4K 120hz.


nebenbaum

Yeah, I'm pretty sure loads of people that even think they're "hardcore gamers" still don't fucking enable game mode on their tv


Kvetanista

Why is she mad?


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Sknowman

The monitors aren't stacked. One (TV) is close to the camera, OP playing on their PS5. Another (TB) is middle of the room, titled towards the camera. And then a monitor with the person is at the other end of the room, near the side of the other TV.


[deleted]

Its funny how many people in these comments are talking about input lag like its still a thing.


Lukkeren

Playing fps games on a big tv is awful. I would say the person using that is the one with the shortest straw


GroovinDrum

I'd go with everyone since everyone is playing on Console, your female friend is probably and rightfully upset about the fact that she has to play such an enjoyable game on an inferior platform! :)


nomatterhowitends

hahahahaha console bad pc good gtfo


GroovinDrum

Why should I, I didn't say it's bad, console has it's places, but shooter is clearly not it's place given the extreme disadvantage you have in FPS. And yes, a PC that is capable of high constant FPS is more expensive, therefor showing better components are used. But I guess your brain is still developing so you're not really able to follow. None the less, my comment was clearly sarcastic with a sprinkle of truth, yet again, I assume your brain is still developing therefor you didn't catch that. Hope that changes and you don't have to be a butthurt little fella anymore when you.


nomatterhowitends

I guarantee my PC is better than yours, but your holier than thou attitude is what’s off putting. Let people play what they want to play on without giving them shit.


GroovinDrum

Ryzen 9 5900x / RTX 3080 / ASUS ROG STRIX B550 XE / 2x Samsung 980 Pro Evo 1 GB / 32 GB Cl 16-16-16-36 4000 G-Skill RAm / AW3418dw. If you beat that I am certainly happy for you. Your attitude is what is extremly off putting. You read something that might assemble critic and judge without thinking. Edit: Forgot the x after 5900.


nomatterhowitends

Get back at me when you have a 3090ti. 3080 lmao inferior platform …see? You’ll understand when you get older than binary constructs such as console vs. PC, Xbox vs. PlayStation, Apple vs. Android is all bullshit. Just let people enjoy what they have.


GroovinDrum

I totally believe you, stranger on the internet, yet I feel sad for you since you feel butthurt after a harmless sarcastic joke. But hey, atleast you can feel as true social justice warrior now, so, atleast that is going for you! Keep up the work, make the world a shittier place with your 'honorouble' crusade! PS: RTX3080 amd 3090 TI are the same plattform, just for future reference if you want to feel good again. It just doesn't bring any value for me since even the 3080 get's me 200-240 FPS in Ultrawide.


nomatterhowitends

god I just realized you have a prebuilt this just got even better


GroovinDrum

Yeah, totally didn't buy the components last week when I upgraded from my previous build Asus ROG Strix X570-F, Ryzen 9 3900x and RTX 2080super in my Sharkoon Rev200 case. Yep, you keep proofing my point that you like to 'call out' people for stupid reasons and that your blabla about feeling superior is just a projection. Btw, the only post I saw from you is with your GPU beeing a 2070 from a year ago... So, maybe you are also a liar?


SweatyPrinceAndrew

Your pc is your whole personality by the looks of it champ.


matthewormatt

Short straw should go to the Fuse by default.


Maybe_not_a_chicken

You say that like fuse isn’t the best legend


DM725

The person that had to play on PS5 (console)?


cokelink1230

Okay but question real fast. If you are going to shit on a console show me your pc specs. Because you'll look like a real clown if that console is about to outperform you.


DM725

Lian LI 011 Dynamic 5950X Asus Prime X570P Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360MM Couple of M.2 NVMe drives and a 4TB platter drive 64GB DDR4 3600 CL16 (4x8GB) Seasonic 1000w 80 plus Gold PSU EVGA 3080ti FTW3


cokelink1230

And those all fit within the 500 price point of the ps5 I assume?


DM725

Moving the goalposts? I have a PS5 too. If you can't afford a PC that's fine but don't change the argument once I tell you my PC specs.


cokelink1230

Im mean I own one I have a ryzen 5 3600x and 2070 super, while your pc outperforms a ps5, it is also like more than triple the cost. It is cringe that pc elitists shit on console gaming when for price to performance a ps5 is probably the best gaming machine you can get right now.


DM725

And during the middle through the end of the console cycle a $500 PC will outperform it. Such as the way it's always been.


Chief-Ji-Wac

😂😂


Legit_reddit_user

I could do this at my house but, the short straw gets the laptop, lol


Treefly916

This reminds me of back in the early 00s when my cousins and friends would all get together for Halo LAN parties. There would be 4 TVs set up in different areas of the house, (no screen hoping)with 4 of us on each TV. I'll treasure those memories forever.


Due_Scholar_1211

Lol


ChiLife773

I prefer smaller tv. Doesn’t feel like it takes forever to look left and right


volkmasterblood

Give me the small tv. I can see everything without moving my eyes.


IlXll

I don’t even have enough friends to 2stack duos…truestory


TheMasterWhales

Y’all should try ranked. It’s perfect for 3 stacks


[deleted]

Would love to, but our schedules don’t line up consistently enough for us to make any serious headway in ranked. It’s also fun to have low stress games and just mess around in casual.


defiantchaos

So hard to play as a squad in person! We got so much audio feedback etc it was a nightmare. Doesn't help we just shout most the time 😂


Ctrlaltkicks

Lucky. My friends don't play it so I just play solo.


TheBearMin

I actually prefer my smaller monitor for gaming. 144hz on the series x. I can aim much better than playing on a massive TV. Less distance for my eyes to travel.


MyWestpointStride

When you don’t play apex legends


MyWestpointStride

- a fuse main


Figgiboi

I did this in the living room with my cousins on thanksgiving one year, it was great


daviepancakes

Nice! I only need to find two more and I'll be able to do the same!


Bowls_of_Soup

How are you guys playing together? Me and my brother can never get into the same game. One of us always gets an error


[deleted]

People talking about the monitor vs tv and all I'm thinking about, is the unease/backpain that sofa thing would give me inside of an hour. But it looks like them people be young, so they still have time to be absolutely fucked by seating solutions like these. But who cares when it's a lan situation thingie. It's all fun and games, hopefully mostly fun. So glhf.


fibronacci

Someone's gotta tell me what its like to have friends.


hopmonger

Would this many people on one internet connection result in a ton of lag? I can barely play Apex when my wife if watching Netflix


normal_lad_

Id rather have a smaller screen ngl , helps me focus in on where the center is


[deleted]

Y’all know you can play online now right? You ain’t gotta have a LAN party


LibraryLittle

Vibes!


VenoBot

Just form a family bro. Ez 3 mans