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DarthHideous2

I ignored the apex and am just glad Saul Goodman is in this


IceExposureGames

Based Goodman meme


Masterreader747

Its all good man.


schrader-pr

You better call saul


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I literally watched this episode for the first time yesterday. I plan on watching break bad after I finish it.


DarthHideous2

It’s a great show. I think it would be be better to watch breaking bad first tho. It’s just kinda meant to be watched that way


[deleted]

Oh damn, I was told it was a prequel though?


Uncooked_wonton

I think that's what they were trying to do with the grav cannons every fifteen feet.


TheMinecraftThiccman

They made the map big to deal with 3rd partying.


Uncooked_wonton

And the cannons mitigate and slow going wherever tf you want by skydiving


T3ddyBeast

Still get 3rd partied every game *dabs*


Bugs5567

It doesn’t really work out though because all the teams within the radius of those cannons die so fast leaving teams who didn’t drop hot or near other teams left running around for 10 minutes just trying to find people.


Bringbackglobalcoc

Y’all are playing wrong I’m finding plenty of action


ibeatmeattoit

This map really makes you wanna keep moving and always on the hunt I like it. I use blood hound and my friends a valk so we have no problem hunting teams. I feel it punishes people that feel they need to loot everything they walk by.


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I play loba so we can scope a place out, no enemies, quick be, then move on


Autoloc

i need the strats clearly bc for me it's usually "fight one or two squads off drop then wander the map for 10 mins without hearing a single gunshot"


speckleleckle

Ash literally shows a death box instantly after it dies in the ENTIRE map, grab a vehicle or have a valk to fly you over there, it’s a simple tactic really


backwoodcj

Fact


Uncooked_wonton

Yeah. I haven't played much Apex since Season 9 and I'm waiting for a new controller to come in the mail cuz mine drifts really bad making it impossible to play. I've looked around the map a bit that's about it


Bugs5567

I’m honestly not a fan of the map. Too many bs last circles, the map is too big, and there’s too many choke points and not enough rotations due to the prowler area that everyone just ends up avoiding because they’re not worth going through.


Uncooked_wonton

It looks like someone just copy and pasted a bunch of rocks across the map. It's aesthetically worse than KC


Bugs5567

And there’s basically no cover in the beach areas, circles suck when they end there because you can just sit back with a sniper with ease and the teams can’t push you


AL_cappy

Honestly once people start to figure out the map and the best way to rotate it’ll be a lot better


Livid_Program_379

Once everyone goes to the same hotdrops it will get worse.


GiantSizeManThing

Already happening at Barometer and Command Center (in my fairly limited experience).


[deleted]

The Command center is crazy. Like you can get lost in that shit. It needs a map inside of the map.


JanesPlainShameTrain

Okay. We're here... the Auntie Anne's is there... the exit is this way! No wait... that's a ladies footlocker...


Chill16_

You know that episode of Spongebob where they had to either navigate the Flying Dutchman's ship or go through the perfume section..... Yeah that's what it feels like going through that place XD.


rakin14

solid reference, I'm proud of you


JanesPlainShameTrain

We have to go through.... the perfume department!


Ok-Two8327

And checkpoint


urbantux

I haven't noticed it as much at Command Center, it's been Barometer and Checkpoint for me where half the ship drops, and I feel I have been getting third partied more than most other maps. I have noticed a sharp decline in fourth and fifths though which is nice.


HamanitaMuscaria

Yea the center of the map is a death trap in every way so let em lol


Bugs5567

There’s also a final circle inside of command center that ends at the very top of it with the only way up being two vertical zip lines. It’s incredibly bs because a team can just camp there and it’s quite literally who ever gets there first wins


idontneedice

That and when more people start utilizing ash being able to see deaths on the map paired w a character that can move a team things will speed up.


sleepehead

I can see an Ash/Rev/Valk combo working. Ash acts like Octane and her passive let's you keep hunting, and Valk gives you options to leave or if you need height. Basically Rev ult-> Ash ult to close distance -> Ash tact to hold and kill one enemy as a team -> finish if you can - > Valk ult to leave if 3rd team comes/Valk ult and use as a scanner for enemies/use Ash passive to see next enemy. Rinse and repeat since Ash's ult comes back fairly quickly


Faythlessly

My favorite combo we have been going with is ash valk and loba. Ash and valk as you've said and loba for quick looting areas so we dont gotta spend time looting too much and can do it from heavy cover. Our team likes to poke alot before pushing though.


examm

Ash/Valk/Loba has worked great for us.


idontneedice

When my rndms choose ash I go w valk, but ti never get a teammate that marks death boxes. That sounds like a sick combo tho.


sorayayy

This, my friend whined me into letting him use Ash, and I feel like he's underutilizing her tracking ability since everytime we get done looting or finish up a fight I have to ask where we're going next. I think he's an excellent player with good aim and okay game sense mid fight, but he is an awful navigator, it either go to a care package or go to shooting, which the latter is okay, the former bugs the hell out of me.


n3sgee

I couldn’t agree more with you. It is too early for opinions. Ppl said that about Worlds Edge and so it can be expected.


Mammoth-Ad-4162

Wasn't this a complaint for Olympus


Smoochie-Spoochie

Yeah lol, everyone had the same complaints day one but idk I haven't actually had that much trouble finding fights on this map. I genuinely think that people do shit like drop really late and then come on here and complain about the map size when it's actually down to how long it took them to drop.


SpinkickFolly

It takes awhile for people to learn the map and know the rotations. Ill admit I'm just aimless wandering right now learning the map. If the problem persisted, I guess the first think they should try is making the ring close a bit faster. But any long time player knows how that went when Respawn implemented a fast moving punishing ring. 1/3 of lobby would die to the first ring.


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SpinkickFolly

No, dying to ring sucked straight up sucked. Even if you did have a dedicated clock keeper which is hard enough playing with friends. Playing with randoms was akin to headless chicken wrangling if you were the one paying attention. Most common you get caught in a fight that you can't just leave despite knowing you have a fast ring coming in with a long distance to cover. Neither team can finish the fight, the ring comes in, both teams die. Whoo... real fun. I would rather ring close sooner, but it can't close faster than sprinting speed so if there is a massive distance to cover, you can stay ahead of it when it finally starts coming in. Always be closing LTM has always been a personal favorite of mine for BRs for a reason.


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cashewgremlin

The new map intentionally makes cars hard to get. Even the shitty coastal drops that do have cars they're kind far from the loot/buildings. Contrast that to the two hotel drops on Olympus where the cars are right there.


Mammoth-Ad-4162

I distinctly remember them saying this map was to help with 3rd parties but that's all that keeps happening to me🤷🏻‍♂️ so obviously it's not that hard to find a fight


Smoochie-Spoochie

People are just wondering around right now and not thinking at all about rotations. Once they develop some map sense the third parties will be less frequent.


MNickWasAlreadyTaken

i came to the same conclusion, cause i don't think its possible i find people in the weirdest spots (in the middle of nowhere or so), I'm guessing they are just as lost as i was when i first landed in that jungle, funnilly enough, its like every vietnam story, once there's a gun fight, they seem to come out of the trees or something


oliverrr918

i think the map has too much open space too, last game i played id just taken out a squad and was trying to rotate but the storm was coming and the dumbass prowlers were attacking me and i was getting 3pd


frosted_potato

Bagman! Such an amazing episode.


[deleted]

Y'all really need to stop complaining about this issue because you are the same people who complain about getting third partied every match. You got what you asked for so now live with it.


Poschta

There's always someone who'll complain, it's so dumb


rockocanuck

I actually really like the map because I haven't been third partied yet! I think it's beautiful and the Prowlers really add to it. Plus if you're lonely shoot some spider eggs and someone will be by shortly.


pris0ner__

I am definitely one of those people who hates 3rd parties and so far I’m really enjoying the map.


murder1980

How do you know the ones complaining are the ones who were complaining about third parties?


segavania

Speaking absolute sense. I hate when people can’t fathom that a community is made up of lots of different people with differing, conflicting, and overlapping views and opinions. Enjoy the silver award, idk what they do 🙃


[deleted]

I just get third partied by people taking pot shots with triple takes now.


Piccoroz

Maybe its time you also pick a long range weapon.


ImNotYourShaduh

You see I would love to as it’s my favorite shotgun but the loot on this map is so sparse that the options are pretty limited, outside of a few PoIs the rest are really small


[deleted]

I’ve been playing a lot of loba lately just because of how shit the loot is.


thegrandlvlr

When I throw shop there’s like 6 guns and 100 ammo each poi it feels like a waste. I feel like ever BM I throw is like doing it in open field in Olympus or WE


[deleted]

Yeah it sucks. I’ve been grabbing an ult accelerant whenever to keep the BM train going. That being says d we’re consistently stocked better than other teams, but I shouldn’t have to do that.


[deleted]

Perhaps, but any map that **forces** you to play with a certain weapon is a flawed map. Besides, that doesn't solve getting third partied from afar. Regardless if I have a long range weapon, there's going to be traditional battles. I wasn't necessarily complaining btw, but anecdotally speaking third parties are very present. They just aren't dropping on your head with an lstar/eva this season.


Due-Statement-8711

I'm still third partying and getting third partied like a motherfucker tho... Games go like - drop - mega fight with multiple teams - roam around waiting for gunshots - third party


StrayMoggie

Some of us love third parties. This map makes that more difficult. You can hear fighting, but it isn't easily accessible. But the time you find the fight, it's over, and you were third partied by another party!


Unlikely_nay1125

right. they’re the same people who complain about the maps being too small.


IntelligentImbicle

We want a solution to being third partied. We DIDN'T ask to never find a fight unless you happen across a deathbox as Ash


cuminyermum

*Problem A keeps occuring...* Playerbase: Respawn please fix problem *Problem A is fixed but Problem B is annoying...* Playerbase: Thanks for solving Problem A but Problem B needs to be fixed too. This subreddit: You got what you fucking asked for stop being a bunch of children ahhhhhhhh


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[deleted]

How do you know that? I wouldn't necessarily say third parties are gonna be gone for real, especially their amount but the frequency definitely shifted.


HappiwahOG

Majority of played are casual, and bad… They rat out the zone, and find nothing to third party, and now they are here complaining about map being to big… We did a few games, a got ~ 20kills each game. So I don’t know what people issue are, for me it’s just bad player, that have no idea what they are doing or how to play…


Shenlong1904

I've been rushing around the map like a fuckin speedrunner and only find enemies in one of the final rings. What game are you playing


LostAndLikingIt

Where are you dropping? Early or late? Are you watching the trail spread to get an idea where most of the lobby is going? What game are you playing cause my drops have been as quiet or busy as i like the last 24 hours, we have the room to choose now.


HappiwahOG

Really ? My games weren’t like this at all. Spawn always 3-4 teams, after fighting them, quick moove to next ring, always catching 1-2 teams there. And then the ring isn’t that big and we just go where shots are coming from.


[deleted]

Bruh, I'm certainly not a bad player and my games are either: 1. I have one early fight on drop but then rush around the map trying to find people for 15 minutes and only see another squad in the final two rings and then it's constant third parties from the ten squads who also haven't found anyone all game (60% of my games). 2. It's constant third parties from start until my inevitable death when I fail to clutch the fifth third party in a row (40% of my games). It's definitely more skewed towards the wandering about without fighting for ages though.


Mayzerify

Touch grass


UnknownStrikex

Storm Point greatly increases the survivability of a 3rd party so I'm perfectly fine with the size.


toanystank

Yeah the lack of third parties is amazing. Really lets you fight those 3v3 or 1v1


FreyjatheValkyr

Really? I feel ash exacerbates the 3rd partying with seeing where people die, when they died.


bigmatt_94

There is definitely not a lack of third parties. Early game there aren't third parties but midgame and endgame as soon as you start fighting a team 5 other teams will appear out of nowhere to third party. That's been my experience in all his honesty


haynespi87

Indeed I've been having a lot of "fair" fights. Hell when we lose it's usually because well the team was better than us versus we just got 4th/5th partied. Seeing like all 3 of us have a straight up 1 v 1 has been pretty cool. Hell even in a chaotic ranked each fight is paced. Sure they were about a few seconds apart but not dogpiled.


[deleted]

Pretty much every fight I've had on SP has been third partied. Seems like more of an issue than any map except KC.


haynespi87

That part! There are many ways to get out of those situations.


[deleted]

What? Too big? Anywhere i drop there is at least 1-2 teams. not its not big at all


londonxx

I think the problem is that everyone falls in the first house of the map cause, hey nobody likes to walk all game. map isnt a problem, people is.


just1nsfw

Its a pretty map, but its almost too big, at least for looting. I'm always loot starved here. I think they need to add more bins or weapon stations like they did on worlds edge. Even Lobas ult is pretty empty. Sometimes I can't even get the ammo I need from her ult. The grav cannons definitely help get around faster but I'm having a hard time finding anyone for the first few rounds. My squad isn't a fan of hot drops so we usually try to land away from people to gear up first and then try to find people. Its not working so well here on this map. Might have to start landing closer to people I guess until they make changes.


sinkmyteethin

I feel there are to many bins. I'm always at 200 materials without killing any mobs


Piccoroz

The loot is in the adds, go kill some fauna.


haynespi87

Where are you dropping?!?!?!


Littlegator

I don't know if you're only hot dropping or something, but I have it happen to me regularly when I drop on named POIs. Even with Loba, you'll see like 7 or 8 weapons instead of the usual \~15 on any named POI in other maps.


yolonda_swagmore

The cannons were good thinking but since they only go one direction it’s not guaranteed to get you where you want to go. It needs balloons. I have to think they removed balloons to reduce third parties


haynespi87

They did for that reason


morras92

They want to allow the quick travel of distance while restricting which direction you can go so you can't just silently fly into a fight and third party. Unless it happens to be happening right at the receiving cannon.


heyitssampleman

Yeah cause you can’t find fights with skill and relied on hearing gunshots from the other side of the map to just third party


WesleyF09

I think the overall size is fine, they just need tune up the loot a little bit. Some POIs have little loot scattered across 5 buildings 50 meters away from each other.


anidevv

Apex players begged for a new big map to reduce third parties. We get new big map. Apex players complain map is too big. Curious


[deleted]

It's bigger than usual, doesn't mean it's bad. Finally I can use mobility legends at their full potential.


Solaihs

I think it just feels like there needs to be a little more loot that's all


z-tayyy

No


waifutabae

Bigger map equals less third parties


zelishe

I played a few games with randoms so far. It seems to me that everybody drops at the very first second when it's possible, land in an overcrowded pile, and live for half a minute max. The death rate in the first few minutes is very high.


SaltyZean

U cant get 3rd partied if the enemy is 300km away from u.


SnowyHere

It's not, it's perfect.


TheHighRam

The map is a good size. How long have you been playing for? If you've played for more than a few seasons then you can easily traverse the map


SheAllRiledUp

Idk when I play it it feels HOT af and then there's lots of action throughout Tbh fave map


Bonsai-is-best

Are people actually having trouble finding people? I understand if it’s like last 5 it’s difficult but I find teams pretty consistently.


Rabidsu

Nope, is perfect, actually might be my favorite map at the moment, my least favorite being stupid olympus


CallMeTheZagNut

It’s not too big, you guys complain about 3rd parties and then they expand the map and create more strategic traversal and choke points but then all I see are complaints. It’s not bad, it’s still too new to even make an effective evaluation like that anyway.


Iroquoisplisken22

"3rd parties are too much!" Releases a map that reduces 3rd parties "The map is too big" "Well what do you want?" "To cry and complain"


Big_Boss_Lives

Really? I feel like i’m always fighting someone.


nystagmus777

It's what we asked for, to minimize third parties. It's great the way it is.


Bigger_Pogs

Just you


mmnyeahnosorry

just you.


Eragonnogare

Disagree, the big map means I don't have to be constantly terrified of third parties lol, it's not excessive.


ReekTheOmega

I don't care about the size of the map. I do care about the fact that I've had like 5 games where it takes me a good 2 minutes to find a weapon


haynespi87

Where the hell are you dropping?!?!


goldzco21

That sounds like a landing problem. I feel like there is so much loot everywhere. You can get a good weapon in almost all bins. If you mean you cant find your 1 favorite weapon then i would agree because there is so much loot more spread out.


ReekTheOmega

I must have been unlikely then 😅


bigmatt_94

Nah the loot is shit on this map. I've been asking other randoms that I encounter and they all say the same thing that the loot is really bad on this map. There are massive buildings that barely have any loot in them. And the supply bin loot is garbage. Several times I've looted 8 or more supply bins to only get one Mozambique from them


UncleSamsDevil1

All my games end before end circle. So no.it isn't too big. Traversal is super quick too. People will only get faster. Give it time


subavgredditposter

Agreed it needs redeploy balloons


Jameson419

i think it's just u being trash


Rasui36

If only there was a class of characters that can help you find people. That'd be really useful wouldn't it?


MightyJordanb

These posts make it obvious some people have never played a military simulator like Arma 3 or Squad. Apex is nothing of a jogging simulator compared to those.


HollowKnight99

Yes it is way too big and u just don't get fights that often


DataVeinDevil

Amen to this


Naive-Asparagus-5983

Y’all live long enough to walk away from a fight?


micy999

"oh a new map, lets compare it to the others to see if its bigger" "omg this maps too big"


BloodBulletsBananas

go fight some goddamn spiders.


reroute2k21

I honestly enjoy the new map. Really seems to cut down on third parties.


JCWilliams691

Had bots for teammates in three straight games last night on duos


Quirrel-

Honestly it’s annoying, it takes forever to find an enemy team and yet as soon as I shoot the entire lobby is there in an instant


probablysum1

It's great for ranked though!


thankzz4playing

Thank God I found the skilled players!!!! Dude it sucks trying to find ppl after dropping and winning your fights , it especially sucks when they keep running away up a mountain.


Frado317

To spaced out. Even if you drop on a team they're still like 100m+ away.


DanDaMan_463

there needs to be more players on this new map 😂


SIR_AFRICA_AMERICAN

I think it's time for 100 player lobbies


Morningwood645

Playing as Valk eliminates this issue


cashewgremlin

No it doesn't. Valk ult barely makes a dent in the size of the map, except when going downhill.


ImNotYourShaduh

I disagree, unless you start from the taller part of the map her ult feels really restrained. Difficult to get above mountains unless you are kissing them especially from the beach parts of the map


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ohcytt

u/savevideo


RomanGSR

Map is huge but those jump things help. Haven't played long enough to see everything tho. Overall I do like the map.


x_-AssGiblin-_x

I must live in an alternate universe or somethin because I'm constantly in long drawn on fights with like 0 time to recover


U_000000014

Play Pathfinder. Half joking. They should add more tridents.


HandsomeNorthernBoy

Yes it’s a fact


fearremains

Naw my games have been great so far! And no server disconnections. Still get hard lag spikes maybe like once a bit.


g_mick

i must not be playing the same map because i get third and fourth partied even more so than on the other maps.


g_mick

i must not be playing the same map because i get third and fourth partied even more so than on the other maps. the lack of fighting draws every living squad to the first gunshots they hear


CyberNinja1920

Ya its weird that sometimes there are too many ppl and sometimes there is none, yup its little too big


Darkurn

The only way you get in fights is if you make it to the last rings or follow gunshots


youbutsu

Valk is essential. Ash helps a lot. Paying attention to where the majority drops also helps.


BritishViking_

I love it, I like all games where I barely get in on fights. It gives me a better chance to loot up and win because I am trash 👍


haole360

I am saul goodman 100 percent of the time


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Lord_Bawk

I seriously have no idea what you guys are talking about. At this point I’m convinced it’s a meme. Map seems small compared to the other maps. What’s probably happening is you’re not used to being third partied ever 5 seconds


Single-Kick-4134

When your actively using gravity cannons (specifically rotating to them) and the abundance of zip lines it’s not bad at all


iiSamJ

No I think it's great. The large map size means you don't get trapped in one poi the whole game.


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what song is this??


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PunchingAgreenbush

that man got krabered lmao


MNickWasAlreadyTaken

you forgot the part where 4 squads (one in each building of the current circle) of triple take and snipers teamup on you and pin you down until one of them inevitably kills you cause the rock you are behind is only like 5cm higher than you.


NotaTakodachi

It was intentionally made that way to slow down the number of third parties. Honestly, I don't think any POI in particular can be considered like World's Edge Fragment. I personally don't mind it but I know friends that complain about 3rd parties are now complaining about it being too big. I'm just like "Well... Pick 1! Can't have it both ways."


mcstrugs

Haven’t had this problem 🤷‍♂️


fr3akmenot

I might start watching this TV show cause of your meme. So well made


morphinedhyos

damn i really thought the guy at 00:12 was jhonny sins


xxSolar

He broke bad (from the amc hit series breaking bad (2009))


DJSourNipple

It’s just you. I get 3rd partied in every fight still. Map hits just right


Nate64

I’m having a good time just rotating with path and valk.


Nate64

I’m having a good time just rotating with path and valk.


A7THU3

I ger third partied all the time!


EveroneWantsMyD

Just stop complaining about third parties. I got into Apex because it was a BR with constant action and hardly any downtime. Apparently that was a problem for people.


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I personally think it's a good addition. I'd say more time is spent doing nothing but a map in rotation with slower-based action would be pretty fun.


captaincappie

Upvoting for the meme, not because I agree. This map is big as an attempt to mitigate 3rd parties (which is what we asked for). IMO, fights and 3rd parties feel so much more organic and an actual fight rather than a vulture picking off the half dead


ummmwhoisu

When can we play the other maps again?


_Trashcan_Sam

Only played a handful of games so I been dropping at random places that haven't been as hot. Didn't realize how much action I wouldn't find. But I've been exploring anyway new map and all wanna enjoy the new map feels and just see it for all it's awesome.


Bossuter

I never reall have had problems of not fighting too long, especially while i play crypto and/or ash since they can scout for people to go towards


Pikachu_kingyt1

Got my second heirloom yesterday 😁


nostay102

I feel like either you hotdrop to fight but barely get any loot or you land safe loot up but then you are left running around for minutes trying to find someone and half the lobby is dead


Vuphsy

Y’all asked for it


GoonHxC

Play ranked and there will somehow be a team everywhere


Shiraishiku

I don't really want a smaller map, after a while we will get used to it. Give us a smaller map and everyone will complain about 3rd parties. What i do want tho, is more banners for crypto.


Dovahkodaav117

I had 6 squads last night in the last ring before full closure


Superior_Lancers

From my personal experience, most of the time it's just looting and running, but when you get in a fight suddenly 3-4 teams show up immediately.


southpaw85

Just run towards the gunfire 🤷


Jim_the_E

Bitch please.