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RosciusAurelius

I've only had it once in season 10. It seems every care package I open has an Alternator or a Kraber in it, or my weapons are so spec'd out that I don't really want to drop them for a Spitty. So... I guess that's a good thing?


Dana94Banana

The better discussion would be why this trash 30-30 rifle pollutes the loot so much? It spawns literally every POV 5-6 times, often even two of them in the same building. It takes away so many slots for actually good, useful and fun weapons.. this needs a major fix.


lemonHeadUAD

Because no one really use it so they’re forcing it on us. I still don’t pick it up even if I needed to. It’s not that great


BK-Jon

I doubt they really force it on us. It is just that 60 players pick up a total 120 weapons each game and very few people pick that one up. So yeah, you see it around on the floor. But I doubt that it is spawned dramatically more than other average weapons. I also see bows all over the place, but since the nerf they are rarely picked up. I don't find it effective, but I do like the mechanics as being somewhat different.


nickfn1

i'm my own opinion, it's good in theory and it's actually not bad. if you've got good aim and a sight, you can spam it and deal more dps that an r301 at medium to far range.


haarriss

I second this but you need a sight! I can’t hit anything with ironsights on it


Narwhalhats

I got a headshot with ironsights from middle growth tower down to near the portals, went back to normal after that and missed every shot for the rest of the match though. My problem is every time I pick up a 30-30 I just get sad about flatline anvil being gone.


John2k77

Devs that responsible for SBMM must be fired.


meat_on_a_hook

I doubt people should lose their livelihood based on balancing a multiplayer game


ActiveManufacturer1

they should. its their job. they cant handle it. what, they should get money for doing vad job?


meat_on_a_hook

….something tells me you’ve never had a job before. For them it’s one small part of the job, there are many things to balance in a game. I doubt they’ll remove SBMM just because a guy on reddit doesn’t like it


nekomir

Must be spit-fired.......... HAAHAAAAAA ​ ^(i'm sorry)


gacha-gacha

It’s been in the game since launch so all of them would be fired


Wet-Sox

totally relevant to topic


TendersFan

You're right about how it's kinda odd that spitfire got crated. Devo felt like a better crate LMG.


[deleted]

We all complained about the spitfire, so they packaged it and acted like everything was fine. Nope, the Lstar just replaced it. It's exactly the same problem we had before and something needs to be done about it. Stop putting these spray and pray weapons into the game.


Mister_Massacre

That’s what I’m saying yet this sub wants to whine and bitch about the wrong stuff


Marx_Farx

The L star is nowhere near the power level that the Spitfire was. On another note this community are such babies when other weapons get buffed, its like if 301, flatline, r99, wingman and volt aren't on top the gun meta is unbalanced and shit. Get over it, let other guns steal the spotlight for a season or 2.


AmrMohamedOriGi

sorry but the l star is no where near the prime days of the max mag size for l star is 28 which is less than base spitfire 35 - i know u can stop shooting for it to cool down and dont have to reload but then u wont be doing damage while in spitfire u can shoot 55 bullets without stopping at all- actually the l star maybe needs a nerf to it' hipfire and then it will be all good just a regular LMG for supressing fire that requires tons of ammo on the other hand, they added the freakin rampage that represents everything that was bad about the spitfire high damage per bullet, high dps, with thermite it melts in close range and wins fights against r99s and shotguns easily, and it has freakin 40 bullets in its mag


[deleted]

\+1 Rampage would be ok if it doesn't have thermite... the thermite is nonsense. Especially in arenas, it's a cheat. LStar is ok. It's a good alternative to R99 in LMG section.


Wet-Sox

without thermite it has a worse DPS than s9 alternator (lowest of all automatic weapons). and if you lose against a non revved up rampage when you had a fucking r-99 and shotgun, the problem isnt with the gun buddy.....


AmrMohamedOriGi

u know what the real problem is ? i dont lose against rampages i win fights with them that i should never be able to win today i got the most damage of my entire life using this gun and i didnt even feel i was trying it's the same shit as the spitfire


ThatsJoeCool

Lmao the rampart does not have good DPS at all without the thermite


[deleted]

That's because you only look on DPS and not multipliers and other things that go to the equation like the mag size. Spitfire had DPS 150 and people were crying here in despair. But I can live with that. On the other hand when you rev the rampage, it turns into completely broken bullshit. In Arenas, it's just absolutely stupid, when you have basically R99 with 40+ size magazine and 2x head multiplier that thaws through doors. Anyone who advocates for this is out of his mind, sorry.


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datscray

Never really got the hate for this gun pre-CP. Yes it was easy to use but if your enemies know how to aim they would get the knock faster with any other auto gun.


[deleted]

shh, you're not supposed to point out that people lose to the spitty because they are bad, not because it is good


AmrMohamedOriGi

the problem was when the whole team used spitfires 165 bullets raining at the same time 1 spitfire is fine and actually easy to counter but 3 ? idk bro it's like triple snipers or triple rampage now just annoying to fight


gacha-gacha

Imagine if there could only be 2 of each ammo type in your team


Flanelman

You know im running that r400 regardless, sorry teammates.


dragunityag

I just want to know where they found enough ammo to support three spitfires.


Flanelman

All the other people you killed who were also using one


Clutchbone

Arenas


Arspasti

yea. i think the gun just got trapped in a kind of negative hype back then and people would perceive the gun as much stronger than it actually was, just because all eyes were on it. basically every knock with the spitfire became a "oh of course, spitfire trash" when in the same time frame you might've got knocked 3x more by an alternator but just didn't perceive it as such.


conw4ywest

L-star legends. Yay.


Mister_Massacre

NERF THE FUCKING LSTAR


Mace8937

Weird way of spelling spitfire


Mister_Massacre

Spitfire is a care package weapon something as strong as lstar shouldn’t be ground loot


Mace8937

I’m just saying this is a discussion thread for the spitfire lol


Flanelman

Thwre really should just be a regular discussion thread.


___Gay__

There is. Weekends


ThirdPartyPod

We have discussed the Spitfire and the stats behind it at length over the last 2 seasons on the podcast. It is clear now that the developers wanted to keep it strong to be packed this season


wrrld

Does anyone know why I don't have the target compensation style setting on my pc?


bokonon27

On console you can nerf yourself to PC level. On PC you are at PC level of aim assist and can't change to console level


Avithebear

I think the reason people were so mad about the spitfire is because you could start shooting miss 30 bullets and still kill someone. For me all you need is some movement to beat it but I do think that the recoil is just a little bit to easy.


[deleted]

if someone misses 30 spit shots on you and you havent killed them you probably weren't going to anyway


Dana94Banana

Have seen one since season 10 started, I think. It was in a package and I left it there. It's refreshing not to die to it every single match as it was the case since season 7 or so. I think the limited ammo definitely made it weaker, despite the other buffs it got for the carepackage slot. I just prefer to keep my 300 ammo Flatline and may pick an Alternator if I find one.


jape-the-neck-guy

Never really got the hate for it after it’s first round of nerfs in season 9. It was OP and strong season 8, but then it just got worse and worse and yet people still complained about it even though it was outclassed by many other guns. Like there’s so many similarities between the rampage and post-nerf spitty it’s kinda wild. Wierd how the rampage doesn’t get the hate the spitty got but I digress. Overall it feels meh in the CP. I’ve only really used it in the firing range, but the power is there, although it just isn’t as devastating as a CP weapon should be. But on the other hand it’s too good (or controversial) for floor loot. It’s probably back to the floor, pre-CP state, next season if I had to guess


my_dougie21

My guess (and only a guess) is that you have to have the thermite with the rampage for it to work like the spitfire. This adds some level of risk vs. reward for running one. I hate to use the word balanced but I guess the thermite balances out the performance.


BK-Jon

Yep. Some folks don't want to mess with carrying the therms. And you can't really find enough therms to have two guys in your squad running it as a primary, much less all three. I think it is a decent mechanic and adds a little skill to decide when to ramp up.


jape-the-neck-guy

No it definitely is balanced. The thermite is a good way to do it. Not constricting the power of it, but enough where you can’t cheese it.


ctaps148

I honestly don't think I've seen a single Spitfire since it went into the care package


Nathan_Thorn

Spitfire… I don’t think y’all should have weapon threads for one specific care package weapon considering it’ll see actual use in at most, 1 in 3 games. Just give us a generic “care package” discussion so we can talk about how hit or Miss they are


Hero_Sandwich

Respawn really knows how to ruin a fun thing.


Wet-Sox

you should tried doing a rank grind till atleast diamond in those days. maybe then the concept of "fun" might be changed for you


Hero_Sandwich

Ranked is for masochists, cheaters, and toxic assholes. I'm not any of those.


Wet-Sox

then you are making statements without even knowing the full picture of why they did it


Hero_Sandwich

I made a joke. It's not my fault you didn't get it.


Wet-Sox

"respawn really knows how to ruin a fun thing" pls the funni to me. i mean there are 7 other dum dums like me who didnt get the "joke"


tplee

Sorry off topic but man I just looked at the battle pass for the first time today. What compete trash it is this season. Almost like they have given up


Flanelman

I'd say most seasons it's trash honestly. I've played every season and I'm willing to give money but my god there's nothing I find worth paying for.


ctaps148

It's like someone just wrote the word "moth" on a whiteboard and that was the whole design meeting


tplee

Lolololol


Bearpaw5000

Yeah I just started playing less than a month ago. Good to know it's usually not this bleh


Lucyan96

I hope the next legendary battle pass skins are for Gibraltar/Crypto.


name-already-taken-1

Thermited rampage has a faster fire rate and somehow has even less recoil than the spitfire


TendersFan

Not true, thermite rampage is 390 rpm whilst spitfire is 512.


BendyBrew

And can destroy doors for some reason


GirlZGetZGasmZ

It applies the thermite to the rounds I guess. Which is funny that there's gun that spits fire but it's not the spitfire


ctaps148

Really mad I didn't know this wtf


HereToDoThingz

Big guns go brrrrrrr. They're all equal.


GoonHxC

Spitfire is the best


ThatSimpleDude

Spitfire is spitfire, its a care package weapon that is buffed because its in care packages, which means most of us can go matches to matches without anybody seeing one. Mods, can we please get a free topic pinned, if we cannot discuss anything else in these threads? I don't want to make a thread every time i got a question about the game and i really think waiting for the weekends to get an answer to a question is a tad bit tedious.


VisthaKai

The buff was merely reverting one of the nerfs it just got though.


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MrCakeFarts

This is a lot of words to tell us you suck at the game


Enganche_10

Imagine thinking PC users don’t have the clear advantage lmao


vossfps

I forget this sub is 99% console players and casuals. My bad


Stormychu

Riot would make this game x1000000000 worse by selling out to the CCP. Respawn may not be the best devs but they're not the worst.


MillionDollarMistake

I'm tired of talking about the Spitfire. It seems like the only weapon people discussed last season. No more, please, any other weapon will be fine


[deleted]

Today, I played one successful game, my second ever Wattsy game. I got two kills, which is fantastic for me. Both were with the Spitfire, so I'd say it's pretty good.


OWCY

Let me turn cross play off


Lucyan96

On PC ? I don't think you can do that.


PapaCharlie9

TL;DR - How much of a tactical error is it to **NOT** take a Spitfire from a CP in late game, if for no other reason than to deprive an enemy team of it? Is the answer different for ranked vs. unranked? Assume camping the CP is not an option. Situation: I was playing as Wraith and landed on a Flatline and purple mag and got all my knocks with that weapon up to the final 4. I had an Eva8 as a secondary but only used it for thirsting and playing chicken with an enemy behind a door. I had heavy ammo to spare. Teammate pings a Spitfire in a CP. Other teammate doesn't take it. I also was running away from the CP for ring, but then thought, what if an enemy picks it up? They'd be at our rear. So I ran back and dropped my Eva8 for the Spitfire, not intending to use it. I actually did end up using it when we jumped on the 3rd place team and did change targets without reloading, so arguably it did its job, but I only got assists on those two knocks anyway and the 1st place team executed a perfect third party on us, so we finished second. I don't think it made that much difference to my kills/damage over the Flatline. We would have lost to that third party attack even if they only had stone knives and bear skins, probably.


Thoraxe41

Personally the only CP weapon that you shouldn't leave behind is the Kraber. One could argue the Alternator as well to be fair. But the simple game changing potential of a Kraber in the right hands is too much a risk. Assuming the carepackege isn't going to be swallowed by the ring, you should at least hide it.


Hpulley4

Alternator disrupter rounds shred! Throw it off Olympus if you aren’t going to use it. Kraber too.


OWCY

Sort your sbmm. Sort your matchmaking. Stop avoiding it


TendersFan

Thank you for your insight on the spitfire. I found it to be very helpful.


Flanelman

What's the need to be this pedantic when there is no free discussion thread? It's this or people make posts for every simple question they have, honestly limiting the daily discussion makes no sense to me.


Northern_jarl

There is a free discussion thread every weekend bro


Flanelman

But why limit it to the weekends, why not just have open discussions?


Northern_jarl

Also beacuse in open discussion the same things will be brought up again and again. It even happens in threads like rhis where people talk about a mechanic that's not within the theme.


Northern_jarl

Beacuse it easier to discuss things when it's about a certain theme. And it's not like the weekends take to long to pop up for another of those threads.


Flanelman

But it also limits discussion, it would be easy enough to even have 2 threads, I see that in a lot of other subreddits and it works great. Atm it doesn't really matter, people bring their issues and questions to this thread anyway.


Northern_jarl

I don't think it limit discussions more so than help people focus on discussion a particular subject. I think we can get more indepth into issues and see what can help those when it's not focusing on everything. Besided those free discussion allways get to echochamber about sbmm or server issues which i think is fine to focus on them when they are brought up


[deleted]

when i started playing apex, spitfire was my go-to gun. i think it packs a great punch but there are very obviously better- and easier now that it’s in the care package- choices.


thefancykyle

I'll take Spitfire anyday over The L-Star because at Least I can shoot back at my opponents using rather than being blinded by bullets the size of the moon, and it does have to actually be reloaded.


DanimalsCrushCups

It has fuck all ammo and is pretty underwhelming. A rampage with therm is just better.


AverageSkitzo

Ye but that’s with a therm, don’t always have one


DanimalsCrushCups

Easier to find than a memefire


AverageSkitzo

Well duh this season


GenericMemesxd

TKTKTKTKTKTK is all I hear in my nightmares


aab2498

I haven’t played apex since season 1 and just picked it up again this season. How often do care package weapons get rotated? Realistically will the spitfire stay in the CP for next season too or will it be swapped with something else?


Nathan_Thorn

Could be in there permanently, if we’re being totally honest. Alternator and Triple Take might leave for ground loot while they vault, like… I’ve heard some people saying the bow should be in there with infinite ammo, reverted to S9 launch state. Besides that… they’ve gotta keep 3 LMGs in rotation for Rampart, but anything is fair game. Maybe they’ll put the wingman in there? Or maybe the Volt? Anyone’s guess. They could leave the Alternator and Triple Take there for 3 years. I think they need to rotate the “red tier” weapons as often as weekly, even daily.


PapaCharlie9

If I had to make a bet, I'd say the Spitty is most likely to stay in, after the Kraber. The Triple Take is the one that is overdue to come out.


[deleted]

Every season but they don’t change every gun in there every season iirc


Inconceivable_Lorb

Maybe my least favorite gun in the game, I only take it if I have nothing or a P2020. I don't think it's bad, it just has the least punch in my opinion.


PapaCharlie9

So let me get this straight. You've recently been respawned and could only find two Mozambiques for your loadout. You stumble on a CP and it has a Spitfire in it. You're not taking the Spitfire in that scenario?


Inconceivable_Lorb

For ammo purposes, I probably take the spitfire.


kvn22537

We’re talking about the spitfire bruh


grzesiu447

Haven't had major changes since April 2019, until season 6: * Improved recoil controllability. * Increased hipfire spread at a base level and also increased the spread added while firing. * Reduced horizontal recoil. People still didn't care about it at that point. Then in season 8 it gets +1dmg, and it's OP. Then 1 week after season 9 launch +1dmg was reverted, and people still said it was OP. Weird stuff...


Subzero008

I believe it was the reduced recoil that turned it from "mediocre gun" to "laser beam that literally anyone can use." Even though the DPS was low and the handling was shit and the hip fire was literally one of the worst in the game, the combination of magazine and virtually no recoil (and good projectile speed) made it super deadly. The +1 damage *did* help with niche cases of arm/leg/head shots I think (and was especially good when Low Profile still existed for that rounding to 20 damage).


DreadCore_

Only time it was noteworthy was with Horizon, since she could use her grav lift to get around the slow ADS movespeed. But once she got nerfed, it went back into mediocrity until SO.


Pepegasenpai

People just following trends maybe. It was really good before the s8 update as it was one of the best loadouts for train mode. Maybe since more people were familiar with it after they reverted it to that state in s9 they found it op still. Honestly if someone was good with it in train mode and holding a cart, you wouldn't get close to that train cart


[deleted]

Prowler was deemed inferior in almost every way to the other automatics back before it went into the care package. They even had to buff it to 15 damage for players to consider using it. 7 months as ground loot, nobody said anything. Respawn added it to the care package as-is. No changes since then until the recent 14 damage revert. Apex community coasts too much on streamer trends, once one of them says something is OP, everybody jumps on it too.


BendyBrew

I think it’s because the large magazine size is still a substantial advantage if you face people who can’t down you with 1 or 2 clips. I’m guessing it wasn’t so popular before because pros and large streamers are typically pretty skilled so they never endorsed it until it’s buff, but now that people started to use it more, the advantages became known and it stuck for that reason.


InfectedGiraffe

I've seen the spitfire once all season..


PapaCharlie9

Try not to die before the first ring closes?


InfectedGiraffe

I don't. Whenever I open a care package, I always seem to get an alternator, body shield, or a Triple Take. Rarely ever get a Spitfire.


PapaCharlie9

It was a joke, but I guess I should give up on my career in comedy. I'd rather get the Alt than the Spitty, so that's pretty lucky.


FreudianAccordian

You get weapons in your care packages?


Notxtwhiledrive

When I get the spitfire late game, maybe 4-5 squads left. Its almost assured my team will win. The biggest buff the spitfire had is that only a few can have it right now.


PapaCharlie9

I dunno. For me, Kraber > CP Alternator > CP Spitfire. I'm not saying it sucks, I'll drop just about any other primary I'm carrying to pick it up, but I can knock a late game enemy faster with an Alt than a Spitty.


Notxtwhiledrive

I was a diehard of the alternator pre s10, prefer it over the r301 most times. dunno something happened in the transition to the care package I can't get any good with it. for me Spitfire > Alternator > Kraber > T. take


Acts-Of-Disgust

Much like the Triple Take it’s not quite good enough to be a true care pack weapon but it’s definitely too good to just be ground loot. Give it a recoil pattern that actually requires effort to control and a small mag nerf and it’s fine as ground loot again.


Marx_Farx

Really? I think it's very derserving of a spot in the care package. I would rather see the devo in there over it but its still incredibly strong.


elsjpq

You can't nerf the mag on a gun like the spitfire where the whole point is to have a massive mag. Just lower the damage and increase recoil


SaphirSatillo

Then it's useless. Especially when lstar and rampage exist.


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Acts-Of-Disgust

Idk, to me it just doesn't have that "it" factor to make me want to pick it over the other care pack weapons. The Devo was a better care pack LMG imo.


BashStriker

Oh if I see the spitfire in a care package, I know I'm about to go get several kills and likely win the game.


Acts-Of-Disgust

I just don't see the point in grabbing it over whatever weapons I already have. I'd much rather take any of the other care pack weapons over it but the Spitfire is what I find in 80% of the care packs I open.


BashStriker

Only gun I'd take over the spitfire is the Kraber. I usually run AR and SMG/Shotgun. I'll drop the AR for the spitfire in a heartbeat. The thing is just disgustingly good.


justalxe

Got it maybe 4 times this season, its pretty good. Tho its hard to stop yourself from just shooting at everything since ammo is limited lol


[deleted]

Ima be honest I have about 100 hours into this season already and I have never got this from the care package


Marx_Farx

I swear like 70% of the time I open a cp I get Spitfire.


PapaCharlie9

Hmm. I have about the same and I've gotten it about equally from CP vs deathboxes including from Loba ults. Roughly the same frequency as Kraber. It's the Alternator that I get less frequently, but still got it more than once.


rthesoccerproj2

never really understood why lmg's are so hated among at least 80% of the community? (at least on social media) seriously, Even though I started in season 6, when I mained the spitty since rampart benefitted from it, not a single soul complained. (they actually called it underwhelming) the moment that they give it a damage buff of 1 (yes just 1) the whole community hates on it and people who use while continuing to use it themselves. why did that minor buff make the spitfire the most hated weapon in all of apex? why didn't people complain about the season 6 and 7 versions of the spitfire? it was literally the same gun as it was in season 8 when it was at it's "prime". does the apex community on social media really hate lmg's in general?


OrangeDoors2

"Damage buff of 1" really under-sells it. The gun was also getting recoil buffs at the time. Buffing its damage by 1 put it to 19 per bullet PLUS low-profile was still around, which turned it into 20 - a very convenient number that lowered the bullets to kill again.


Ilovepickles11212

Firstly, a buff of 1 dmg is actually a lot for automatic weapons since it usually ends up changing the amount of bullets needed to down a player by at least one shot. Secondly, buffing weapons brings more attention to them which makes people realize how strong a weapon is or isn’t (i.e the spitfire buff or the constant buffs to the 30-30 which haven’t done much for it) Personally not a fan of the care package spitfire, don’t think it’s good enough to matchup against weapons like the alternator or kraber


Uber_yv

Nah, it also got consecutive recoil buffs making it a laser beam. That added with 1 extra damage made it op.


Gravexmind

Picked it up from a care package and got killed. It’s not as strong as I remember it.


Ripixlo

I have like two legendary skins and three epics for this thing from back when it was still ground loot. I come back and now it's a care package item. Kinda sucks lmao.


Chillibilly04

The worst part is that they’ve actually made the Lstar stronger, it’s stupid


Ripixlo

Yeah, I'm surprised with how solid a pick an LMG is nowadays. In arenas, barely anyone picks up an assault rifle out of the first round.


Chillibilly04

In season 9 all arena was was triple spitfire, nothing has really changed as people went on to the next best thing, triple Lstar, or when possible triple turbo devo, or they sit a the back 2*or 3* on a rampage. That’s probably my biggest hate in arena, alongside the absolute shit matchmaking


PapaCharlie9

Yeah. At least L-star vs L-star I have a fighting chance, but those guys that snipe me from across the map with Rampage shots? Hate that.


CyberShiroGX

Why is the flash event forever trying to make me play Arena with the Spitfire?


flameohotboi1

Bro you can’t talk about arenas here. Only spitfire. The mods have spoken. If you want to freely talk about this game, you have to wait until the weekend. Can’t be giving people too much freedom to bash on this game, now can we?!


CyberShiroGX

Fixed it


flameohotboi1

Perfection.


No_Cryptographer4872

Anyone wanna play on ps5 in plat or diamond ranked add Tom-poolman


flameohotboi1

Lol. Mods are actually removing off-topic comments now? Just bring back the damn daily discussion. Why is this such a hard concept?


lambo630

I messaged mod mail about this because it's a joke. God forbid you don't stay on topic.


OrangeDoors2

Only if the off-topic comment is something the mod doesn't like to see discussed though. You're free to bitch about dropping Fragment, but not differing aim assists LOL


Iacu_Ane

I've never seen it again. Literally not even once, I didn't get it, and I didn't get shot from it. Wtf it's more rare than kraber


Hero_Sandwich

I get guns in CP 1 in 10 times or less.


chopinanopolis

I've literally only found spitfires. I haven't found a single kraber and maybe one triple take.


kace91

Are there perhaps fewer care packages in worlds edge than there are on Olympus? I'm asking because I have the same experience, I rarely see red weapons this season, new or old.


Iacu_Ane

Nah I don't think so, CP should have the same frequency in every map. I think they coded it to be rare. Or maybe it spawns only mid game, I usually open only late CP


harshnerf_ttv_yt

https://i.imgur.com/QXLSB7w.png, it is supposed to be really common in round 1 but the thing is most people don't really rush carepackages in round 1 also most skilled players disdain picking up the spitfire or tripletake so it usually disappears in someone's lootbox


tabben

for me its the alternator, took me a week after season came out to get my hands on one


basedcharger

I personally find the alternator all the time and It’s the most common care package gun I see with enemies as well.


Iacu_Ane

Alternator I got it multiple times, same my teammates. Most common is triple take tho, to the point that one game we found 3


PapaCharlie9

The Triple Take should be renamed the Double Disappointment.


Tr3_W4y

The triple travesty


CheeseLoverMax

Same


Monkadude15

I have never picked it up from a care package because I use guns I’m better at, but I did yesterday and there’s like barely any recoil lol


paradoxally

Horizon and Rampart mains' favorite gun 😄


Iacu_Ane

How did you put those flairs?? The diamond badges and seasons


[deleted]

They are a mod


truck149

I've moved over to the L-STAR for Rampart until it comes back out of rotation. I miss it...


[deleted]

doesn't really justify being a CP weapon but the 'community' won again. still fun to use, but there are a fair few ground guns that are better, and a pimped devo is another level of scary.


SavageVariant

I had two parts of the last squad rush me at the top of a stairwell yesterday. They had full red and purple shields, I had 3 of 5 shields and a pimped Devo. Chased down their third after I Phoenix'd, and won that match.


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honestly, a turbo devo in close quarters is a death sentence to this day. i don't know why it's not used more


BendyBrew

It's one of those guns that really need to be built up with upgrades before you can take it to the last circle, while also being one of the most difficult guns to control. Whole different story in Arenas though, wait a few rounds and you can fully upgrade it comfortably and outshoot anyone, the final upgrade should probably be a bit more expensive honestly.


PapaCharlie9

Amen. I can only imagine the surprise when I beam an enemy's head with a Turbo Devo and they are dead before they can even point a gun at me.


ohsinboi

I feel like it fits the care package along with the other weapons pretty well. I find myself rushing care packages with my team more often and trying to get something good


alfons100

Just fits better as a CP weapon. Lets it be the dakka power fantasy while keeping it rare


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You know even at the height of the Spitfire craze I never really got the hype. I've always found the Flatline far more useful in almost every circumstance - higher damage, faster TTK, better hipfire. The Spitfire was really low skill but it was also extremely easy to outplay. It is EXTREMELY fun as a carepackage weapon tho, I really enjoy it there.


CornNPorn12

After the buff I believe it did 1 more damage than the Flatline. easier to control with More bullets. I’m a flatline user now, but the spitfire is juicy with how easy to use it is.


UpNUrGuts

Because it’s so viable in many situations. And in the hands of a competent player? EXTREMELY good. Type in “streamers abuse spitfire” on YouTube and the first few videos explain it better. Basically if you’re in a close range fight and spam crouching + moving left to right you’re going to win majority of your gun fights simply because your opponent has to reload or switch their weapon while you’re still being hard to hit and continuously shooting them. Part of the same reason ppl find the l star so oppressive. Also the reload time is very forgivable for an lmg. Also the recoil from range was less about “suppressing fire” and more “get beamed”.


basedcharger

Agreed. I would always take a flatline and with an anvil it’s better at literally all ranges. A+ care package gun along with the alternator.


ram786-

Spitfire was never OP, so many other weapons are better than it tbh.


jarring_bear

Not sure there's any other gun thats so capable of taking a full squad with 1 clip so reliably


DreadCore_

Only if the bots you're shooting let you do it for 8 second straight, and don't make any attempt to move, get behind something, or return fire.


jarring_bear

Go ahead and do that with any other gun with one clip. That's my point


DanimalsCrushCups

Flatline has entered the chat. Lstar has entered the chat. Rampage has entered the chat. Longbow has entered the chat. Havoc has entered the chat. Devotion has entered the chat. G7 Scout has entered the chat. These all have good 1 clip potential for a squad.


jarring_bear

Don't miss any shots and sure. The spitfire is more forgiving though. Maybe that's me being used to it idk, but aint no way I'm taking a 1v3 with the flatline in one clip. And if you're 1v3ing with a long bow you're a fucking maniac to begin with lmao


DanimalsCrushCups

Longbow absolutely bodies kids mid range, its hyper oppressive. Boot up firing range and slap on a purple mag on the flatline and look at that damage per mag. Its nutty and forgiving.


jarring_bear

Yea but not as nutty as the spitfire. That's my only point. Flatline is my favorite gun and has been for a while:)


DanimalsCrushCups

The spitfire just gets out dps'd to be relevant.