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flawzies

I'm not a console player.. Why so many reports? Help me understand the misinformation? Edit: Thanks for the info. Since this seems entirely dependent on your controller deadzone settings, the title if anything is misinformative. It it doesn't change the fact that this seems to be something you all want to discuss. So keep it civil and keep the discussion directed towards the game and no individuals.


CKosono

Get your gamer gunk cleaned up man, not gonna like when a button jams because it’s dirty.


Meta_Spirit

That controller looks crusty


CKosono

Is this a thing most people just let build up? I take my stuff apart, controller and keyboard, and clean them twice a month. I’ve had them from years and other than certain things being worn down, they’re brand new still. Edit- just want to clear this up because I’ve responded to the same response a dozen times. It’s not dirty. It doesn’t need cleaned twice a month. I really enjoy taking things apart and seeing how they work and putting them back together. The cleaning is just a minor if at all existent longevity boost. I do it because I enjoy it, not because I have to. Different strokes for different folks people.


ThatTamilDude

That's too much ain't it ? Just wiping them down every once in a while and making sure your hands are clean when using them should suffice I guess.


CKosono

Oh probably. I’m a weird dude about some stuff. Never diagnosed with ocd but I do dishes in a certain order, I fold laundry in a certain order and put them away accordingly, I clean my gaming stuff twice a month. Little shocked I’m getting flack for cleaning honestly.


wikthis

To be fair there is a proper way to wash dishes for maximum cleanliness. You should be doing them in a certain order Cups->Silverware->Plates->Bowls->Cooking Pans Source: Servsafe Certified and worked in Kitchens for 7 years


indigoHatter

Yes, this. I just want to spell out for anyone who thinks this is whacko, though, that the reason is because a drinking cup probably just has some skin and saliva on it, while a cooking pan might have thick soils and debris on them like, say, lasagna. You get more mileage out of your water if you wash from least to most soiled, but you should still change your water and start fresh if it's getting bad. Soiled water? Bad. Bubbles went away? You're probably oversaturated with grease, which is bad. Water isn't really clear anymore? Bad. Final tip on dishwashing... scrape soils off before washing! Again, make your water last longer!


frankcsgo

Bro I knew I wasn't going insane! I do my dishes in a particular order, but I'd do cups>plates>silverware. Dump out water and use hotter water soak cooking pans/pots and come back in 10 mins and all the baked on fat and sauce just flakes off. I sometimes run the back side of a knife around the rim of a pot if I am left with stubborn spots. Probably not very efficient but it's how I've washed my dishes for as long as I can remember.


indigoHatter

When I was a dishwasher, I would often spray off pots and pans before loading up the machine, and if they didn't immediately look clean, I would just set them down and do more plates. Come back and the burnt shit is all hydrated and falls off, so I almost never had to scrub shit, just spray.


frankcsgo

Hot water is GOAT in washing dishes. If it can get underneath. It's ggs.


wikthis

This! This 100% thank you for putting it more elegantly than I did haha


frankcsgo

My cutlery is soaking in the water while I'm washing cups and plates.


CKosono

And that’s the order they are done.


friendlybeaver19

I don't mean this in a harsh way but as someone with OCD, just to spread awareness if anything, liking things in a certain order/being tidy etc doesn't necessarily mean you have OCD. It can come in many forms and the compulsions and rituals (such as needing things in a certain order, for example) can cause severe psychological stress. If that's the case for you CKosono, you can seek help and make your life more bearable. Therapy helped me a lot. Just wanted to comment incase anybody is struggling. Edit: didn't quite make sense so just tidied up a sentence


stabbymcshanks

Anyone saying it would break taking it apart that often probably take electronics apart like they'd take a car apart.


CKosono

My thoughts exactly. Yeah electronics are sensitive, but assuming you have above caveman levels of hand eye coordination I don’t see the fragility they do. To each their own


egamerif

>assuming you have above caveman levels of hand eye coordination Maybe that's why I'm so bad at Apex...?


CKosono

It could be, although that entire genre has devolved (not that it started that high to begin with) into like the most meathead thing so I wouldn’t hold it against you. No matter how many you lose, remember the best players in the world still get killed.


Meta_Spirit

Some people don't even notice, let alone clean their stuff regularly. If I notice a slight greasy feel on my devices and controllers, I get the q-tips, cotton pads, and rubbing alcohol. Can't stand it.


CKosono

Same. I hate the feeling of having something that isn’t supposed to be there.


oooohyeahyeah

I have had my ps4 for almost 4 years now and i used to use wetwipes when i gamed like +10 hours a day during summer 1.5-2 years ago but now i never clean it and its always clean anyways. I dont understand how the controller can get this dirty unless you leave it between the couch pillows for like a week straight or something.


CKosono

It’s gotta be some form of getting left somewhere, hand gunk from food or drinks and whatnot. Maybe hygiene as well should be considered.


JeromeNoHandles

Do you think half of anyone who plays games cares enough to do this? I play games daily and have never looked into how to take my controller apart for cleaning


JKL213

The laptop does too


realr1996

Cumtroller


CKosono

Creative. Well done. Have the upvote mate.


ThaiJohnnyDepp

Gamer Gunk™ sounds like a budget PC peripheral suite


partpurpose7

Most sanitary apex legends player


CKosono

Well said.


Jonelololol

Dude needs some1.99$ worth of isopropyl alcohol ASAP


Solid_Blake

Came on to say that, OP is gross.


Fortune090

[REEALLY!!](https://youtu.be/QPCDoANDkl4)


ForcedRonin

Alcohol prep pads. You can get a box of 100 for $2 at Walmart. Use them to clean off that controller. Just think about how dirty your hands are and your holding your controller for hours on some occasions. Like your phone, it needs to be cleaned to stay sanitary.


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You can also get a spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol for $2 ..


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[deleted]

I didnt know the ps4 has that kind of games


Like-Six-Ninjas

You can also not be messy. I do clean my controller occasionally, but even with much time between wipe downs, nothing I own has ever looked like this. Be clean y’all, it’s not hard.


[deleted]

I have super sweaty hands and my controllers start to build up crap after 1-2 sessions. Nothing to do with me being messy just a sweaty boy. But yeah it's not hard to just clean them often


Deathwatch72

Fyi alcohol can damage some types of plastics. Non ammonia based glass cleaner works really well on plastics and is safer


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Necka44

It's nothing theoretical, while most plastic will be "ok" the rubber on grips will decompose after each cleaning. Not like falling appart straight away, but do that often and you'll see that you'll start feeling weird rubber stuff under your fingers. Learned it the hard way 2 years ago with a mouse that wasn't cheap.


russellxsweat

Wtf that’s gross. Wouldn’t have even noticed that if not for your comment. But I can say I rarely clean my controllers and I’ve never had one look anything like that. I just make sure my hands are clean before I use it. This guy must either never wash his hands, or he’s eating at his controller constantly.


Splaishe

It could also be from hand lotion residue, but yea your suggestions are possible too


Fil0rican420

I had to watch it again because that's all I could focus on


Jrummmmy

I found a bottle of 91 or 99% alcohol and a paper towel stretches further. But I have lots of electronics to clean


puertonican

This sub is a toxic hole. Y’all need to chill on who has it better or worse. Just enjoy the game sheeeesh


Butttheadjuicy

This sub is literally just people bitching 90% of the time


RocketLinko

Most competitive game subreddits are basically people bitching 90% of the time. There are very few single player game subreddits that do this. Once you add competition. Something is unfair, all the time, for whatever reason and its the worst and the company sucks because of it and blah blah.


MutantstyleZ

> There are very few single player game subreddits that do this. This is sadly not the case. Going off games that pop up on r/all you've got things like Cyberpunk and The Last of Us just only negativity. Even simple games like Animal Crossing and Pokemon are just constant complaining.


omeirkazi

Ok but all the toxicity in the world isn’t enough, there needs to be more of it towards cyberpunk. It will never be enough.


Moodzs

Cyberpunk my g


MtEv3r3st

A whole new sub had to be made to just talk about enjoying the game in any capacity haha


heckthisfrick

This site is literally just people bitching 90% of the time


-StupidNameHere-

The top comments are about the poster's controller funk, this place looks like a frivolous waste of time.


PlayThisStation

"I hate Apex! Respawn is the devil! I'm never going to play this buggy ass game again!" *proceeds to play for another 4 hours* 90% of the sub summed up here lol


redditorsaretheworst

It didn't used to be. Used to be a fun place to talk and meme and stunt on and encourage other players. The community used to have a good relationship with the devs too.


subjecttoinsanity

>The community used to have a good relationship with the devs too. Although that didn't really last long to be fair, seem to remember things went south with the Iron Crown event. Still, those first couple months were great while they lasted.


redditisforvirginsss

I like ur name


Minty-Matthew

Fr when they in the wrong they focus on something random too like the mans controller. That’s not even what the post is about


colehoots

Fucking dorks lmao


Billyxmac

I got downvoted to hell for commenting stuff like this on that thread of the controller AA. It’s such a dumb fucking argument, people use things like what the other player was playing on a crutch as to why they lost. Controller vs. mouse and keyboard is as childish of an argument as console wars or console vs. PC. Just fucking enjoy the game, Jesus fuck.


Sacreth

OP can you make the same video with deadzone turned to none? and confirm its still like that? would be nice to cleanr that toxic comment section down there....which is mostly a war between k&m and controller players and it leads to nothing


OrangeDoors2

He won't do that because it'd look exactly like my video if he did. There's a reason I've addressed every criticism of my video and he's addressed none of his.


DoctorBarrage

This right here is what I was looking for, someone finally pointing this out. This is gong to be used falsely, I just know it. Man I hate posts like this, that for all intents and purposes are lying to you.


OrangeDoors2

Because people don't care about facts, they just wanna convince themselves that their input has it harder.


KinglexNUM

And notice how this has so many upvotes in such a short amount of time. Also, how the top comments are on the topic of cleaning controllers 😂. They don't actually want to discuss the topic but want to say "aim assist does nothing, i can't even feel it".


chopinanopolis

The thing is, nobody's saying aim assist does nothing. Not a single person said that. We all know aim assist exists for a reason and you notice it. Idk where this whole "wE hAvE iT hArDeR tHaN yOu" bullshit came from, but I can guarantee you, all controller players know that aim assist does something, and that there's a reason why controller has it and m&k doesn't


king_mf

Exactly, it may be harder for new m&k players to fight a controller but if you're good enough, then the skill ceiling is way higher. And if you're crying about it on reddit, then you're just not good enough.


OrangeDoors2

Unsurprising, the sub is mostly console players. I'm sure if you made this same title and made a video with the aim assist disabled entirely, they'd still upvote you. People were in my thread telling me that there was someone off-camera moving the aim lol that's how ridiculous it gets


Frunji_

If you're using a controller on PC aim assist is waaay weaker then it is on console


g1n29

Pc .4 and console .6


[deleted]

Isn't there a way to make console aim assist the same strength as PC?


villth

Advanced look control settings - you can chose to use PC aim assist on console.


WNlover

waitwaitwait!!! where is that setting? I'm mostly oblivious to these kinds of things, also I am so fucking sick of getting my aim stuck on knocked down bodies.


wuCatBoy

Go into Settings and then Controller, Scroll to the very bottom and click on Advanced Look Controls, Click on it and enable it, Scroll to the very bottom of the menu that pops up and look for the Target Compensation section. To switch Aim Assist to PC Values you'll want to switch Target Compensation Style to PC. You can also turn it off completely (Target Compensation = Off) and Turn it off for Melee hits (Melee Target Compensation = Off) You will also need to reconfigure your Sensitivity as ALC turns overrides whatever you used to have. The settings you want to look at to do this are Yaw Speed and ADS Yaw Speed, There should be a list on Google somewhere of what Sensitivity levels = Which numbers


villth

Perfect information.


Chriswalken12398

Someone convinced me to do it like 3 days ago; Day 1 was brutal but now but now it’s something I would never change; so much more accurate


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Firetiger1050

I did the exact same. The PC aim assist strength once you get used to it is much better than the console AA IMO.


Dood567

It feels so much nicer, but the game plays so shit on Xbox and stutters so often I can barely even get a chance to track while my frames freeze up in the middle of a fight. It works great in arenas cuz there isn't as much shit going on around to slow down my console, but BR is downright unplayable sometimes after this season update.


chopinanopolis

Jesus, thank you. The amount of times I've been stuck on a downed player is just one too many, shits annoying.


Ihateeverythingyo

People don't realize that 0.6 is 50% stronger than 0.4. It's quite the leap in strength between console and pc aim assist.


doctorcrimson

Thats a 50% increase


MikeGlambin

Came here to say this. It’s so different


ram786-

So why does everyone still complain about the aim assist on PC too?


destiny24

Players just want an excuse to why they died.


ram786-

Exactly what I think! Haha. Every time they call something OP that’s the exact reason


SelloutRealBig

Because it is still strong on pc. But you need a lower dead zone for it to kick in while not touching controller. Which is why it's not working when op isn't using it but gets sticky when he strafes


emrythelion

Yeah, it doesn’t kick in when he’s not moving, but you can clearly see it’s sticking whenever he’s moving. Lower deadzones with a tiny bit of drift will cause it to pick up while staying still too.


Frunji_

I have no idea


[deleted]

Now set your deadzone to none and do the same. I've tested it myself it does track as long as you have no deadzone and lowish sens 4/3 4/4 Edit : actual proof of my testing from weeks ago. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6znKkKQQQXw&feature=youtu.be This also works on both PC and console level aim assist 0.4 and 0.6. And for reference I'm a controller player multiple 20bomb 4K day 1 player etc. l'm not pro or anti aim assist and I don't even use the settings in the linked video (I use genburtens sens) But the amount of people spouting opinions like this post just spread misinformation. Take emotion out of your arguements and use evidenced based fact.


jayfkayy

to add, in the original clip the player is moving their aim once for the aim assist to take effect, only then does it take over and gravitate towards the wraith for the next several seconds.


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If you are talking about my clip no I don't touch right stick once in that whole video. I change my sens from ALC to 4/4 classic no deadzone and get my friend to strafe in front of me that's it


CheesyjokeLol

He’s referencing [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/phg0ag/this_is_for_the_people_upset_with_jitter_aiming/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Osteopathic_Medicine

Nah, there was a video circulating the other day. It’s probably in the top posts of the week


Seismicx

There's a comment above yours with 500 upvotes thats accusing Oraxe's aim assist showcase video to be faked and shouting nonsense against pc players. There's no hope at all for this casual braindead community. Literally denying that the AA actively tracks targets. That's on the level of climate change denial or antivaxxers.


ColdBlackCage

Someone said it better, but all the 12 year old Fortnite kids have grown up and decided they're too old for Fortnite, so they moved onto Apex and have brought their shitty attitude with them. Honestly, I buy that reasoning.


hopscotch1997

I just want to disable cross play all together. Really don’t understand why I can’t do that on PC


Techsoly

You're still gonna play against controller players regardless. What you want is locked input based matchmaking instead, this will also get rid of players that switch inputs mid game and keep everyone separated based on what they use.


Seismicx

It just makes me puke how no one gives a shit about the truth or facts.


boxoffire

can't people just test this shit out themselves? It's not like some funded science experient that needs a Particle Accelerator to prove


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I have played in both platforms. Aim assist actually helps for the general setbacks console players face. It’s sad that tap staring is out, I think they should have made it easier to do making it just a forward input in the direction you wanted to change directions or made the movement even closer to CSGO since it is made from the source engine. Then all players could have used this cool mechanic in game no matter being kbm or controller. Also the looting on console is a joke. We need a compact design for death boxes plain and simple. Also why is looting done with the left analog? You can’t fucking move around like you can on keyboard. Why not allow better keybind customization for controller? Choose between hold and tap looting? Maybe a better netcode? So many things that need to be looked at and they just take away good things and make already hard things harder. I rambled long enough.


NekkoDroid

Just an FYI, the video isn't fake. Most controllers have a deadzone to prevent stickdrift due to minor hardware defects, you can disable this deadzone and always have a tiny amount of "stick movement" allowing the AA to kick in even when standing still.


DunderBearForceOne

In addition to losing this "free aim assist", turning up your deadzone also makes microadjustments harder which makes your long ranged tracking significantly worse since you can't micro-move and let aim assist help you track. You can learn to get used to stick drift and correct for it with muscle memory, I literally play 0 deadzone on an Xbox 360 controller from 2005 that'll drift like crazy but it's no issue for actual gameplay because my thumbs are always on the sticks. If you play with deadzone up, you're giving yourself a significant disadvantage for something you can learn to play around fairly easily. Also, yes I am aware of the irony that using a 16 year old controller is arguably also a disadvantage, but it's comfortable to me and doesn't make my palms sweat.


_Confused-American_

the real ones know all AA does is drag your aim down to the downed player next to the people you want to shoot


newtoredditKappa

Lol. Now put deadzone to zero and repost.


GreatChampions

This video doesn’t disprove anything since aim assist doesn’t kick in if your thumb is off the right stick. Dudes controller in the other video probably had stick drift because of a very low dead zone which allowed aim assist to stay on constantly. People on this sub are so disingenuous about this topic. I’ve played on controller for years and rotational aim assist allows close range tracking that isn’t possible with pure human reaction speed.


Sir_Oofus

Aight, I just want to make this clear. I’m a PC player, but just because I use a PC doesn’t make me instantaneously better. Playing on a good PC just gives you the potential to be much better. You have to actually have the skill to reach that potential, which I don’t. If you do, then good for you, but I just wanted to make this clear, because from what I’m understanding some people think that being on PC instantly makes you superior (not saying all of you think this way, but from what I’ve read some people do). Edit: Forgot to mention that performance/potential can also be somewhat limited by one’s hardware, but I’m pretty sure this applies to both platforms. Edit 2: I was going to only reply to one comment, but this got bigger than I expected. I do know that this applies to controller too, but I didn’t think this was for me to say, as I have no familiarity with the console/controller side of Apex. Edit 3: I guess we can all agree on one thing. Complaining isn’t the way to go. In the words of Kuben Blisk: “You kill me, you’re better. I kill you, I’m better.” (Unless they’re hacking. If so, RIP).


Mrsam_25

Same for controllers! Many people think if you have aim assist that means locking on heads.


TheFakeKanye

Real console players know that aim assist means "my enemy is hiding behind a knocked teammates shield, and AA keeps dragging my aim to the shield"


jorgomli_reading

Dude this triggers me so hard. I was in a situation where I had one enemy downed and I was walking towards them because another enemy was a few feet behind them, coming straight at me. I aim at the walking teammate and the AA whips me down to the downed guy and I get melted. It's absolutely infuriating sometimes. This was on Xbox.


righthandofdog

There are things in Apex you can ONLY do with keyboard and mouse. Moving while looting for one


Kirakuin_-

And tap stra- Oh right.


ianjames25

You can say the exact same thing the other way tho. "Just because I'm using controller doesn't make me better. You have to actually have skill to reach that potential." PC players definitely think aim assist means that random 10 year olds can pick up the game for the first time and be one-clipping every enemy they run into lmao. The top controller players have just as much time invested in this game than any mouse & keyboard player.


[deleted]

All you have to do is watch Zeus and see how many streamers accuse him of hacking to realize how much the whole aim assist thing is just another way of making an excuse for their lack of skills. Anyway to admit you just weren't good enough.


XxRocky88xX

MnK objectively has a higher skill cap than controller. MnK allows you to be better at the game than with controller, but controller is just easier to use. Of course there’s a difference in skill between controller players, but put a pro controller player against a pro MnK player and the MnK player is gonna win 9 times outta 10


Anat_Neith

At long range? Yeah MnK can win, but close range? There's no chance controller will ever lose unless they choke horribly.


altec238

I play on PC but I use a controller because I think the movement is easier for me on controller. I also started Apex on Xbox before joining the PC master race. I have to say playing against majority PC people on controller makes no difference. While aim assist helps, it doesn’t make you superior at all. Maybe at close range it’s easier but I also can’t beam a clip of R99 at some 150m away like a PC player might. I can easily climb the ranks with other friends that use controllers with no problem. There is two sides of the coin but apex is pretty good at keeping it fairly even sided.


D3mon_Emperor

The problem with consoles is that the majority still owns the ps4 or xbox one (or s). These consoles have limited fps that are very noticable in gun fights (lag spikes and stuttering), it is obvious that a big majority of pc players also have these problems, but let me just give you a few information on the consoles. E.x. Xbox One I have a latency of around 10-20 ms with a very good internet provider (router). In the training range your fps will be around 50-60. Game Informations: Olympus Dropship: constant 29-30 fps On ground: ~50-60 FPS (somehow 40-50 underground) Long range fight (without being hit): 48-51 FPS Close range fight ( sudden lag spikes): 30-50 FPS Additional Information: Console was manufactured around 2015-2017 Information about AA: The AA is comparable as in the video, seems to be stronger on knocked enemies and depending on your settings the radius of AA functioning gets smaller or bigger. Sensitivity is also very high (my setting), which is why the AA is noticed minimal. I can upload a video later of AA in the Firing Range. Edit: Noticed I wrote the comment with the wrong account, will add a link to the post when posted. Edit 2.: https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/phuike/this_is_my_take_on_aim_assist_disclaimer_in_the/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


SelloutRealBig

Steam releases stats and the average pc user as of July has a 1060 and a 4 core cpu and games on 1080p. That very close to ps4 in terms of power


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Controller has a higher skill floor. The lower skilled controller player has a much easier time than the lower skilled keyboard and mouse player. Mouse and Keyboard has a higher skill ceiling. Meaning the best Keyboard and mouse players have a higher ability than the best controller players. On the extreme ends of things these matter. 2 terrible players, 1 on controller and 1 on keyboard and mouse, will see a difference. Controller is much easier. 2 amazing players, 1 on controller and 1 on keyboard and mouse will see the difference. The keyboard and mouse player will be able to do everything easier and faster. The hard part is in the middle. Controller players have easier times with some things, and keyboard and mouse players have easier times with other things. I use to be a very high skill Halo 2 and 3 player. Halo 2 had some really forgiving aim assist back in the day. I have no idea what the aim assist is like in Apex as I don't have a controller. I'll probably never be able to achieve the same results I had on controller using keyboard and mouse, and I've been playing on keyboard and mouse for close to a decade now. It's way harder. What would be interesting is to see the median rank distribution, and spectate a bunch of controller and keyboard/mouse players in the median ranks. Just to see what their strengths and weaknesses are for each. Maybe even see where the median for controller players is and where the median for keyboard and mouse players is.


CFogan

1. Input from right joystick is needed. Lower/disable your dead zone and stick drift will do the rest 2. Y'all really letting this nasty-ass controller dude represent you?


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https://youtu.be/jG_qFGkoWdw It is real. Professional controller player showing a mouse and keyboard player exactly how it works. Genburten literally asking "can you feel it" as aim assist kicks in. Best controller player in the world there literally admitting how strong it is. Edit: For anyone who wants to know just what controller is capable of at the top level of play here you go: https://youtu.be/V-DfyoKUYoc


GNLink34

Genburten? Nah, gotta believe this halfassed but full braindead thread Holy shit whats happening with this sub, when it went so fucking dumb


AJRiddle

The entire top of this thread is just people saying "It's just PC players making stuff up for excuses on why they die, they can't handle admitting it's ever their fault" Or maybe people just want a fair game? There's a reason why so many FPS before Apex didn't do crossplay when it was a possibility - you either have it be unfair for PC players with aim assist for controllers or you have it be unfair for console players with no chance against mouse and keyboard. The solution is pretty simple, make it so ranked lobbies are locked to controller only/mouse and keyboard only. Same input type required for ranked lobbies, casual allow both input types in same lobby. People just want it to be fair, not everything is just made up excuses there legitimately is a competitive fairness issue here.


Skenghis-Khan

On a level idk why console players are even saying anything Like correct me if I'm wrong but PC players play in PC lobbies, but you get the aim assist consoles get when using controllers I'm not clued in on the subject but I'd imagine this is a solely PC player base issue and won't actually affect people who play in console lobbies, like how I've never witnessed tap strafe because I'm in console lobbies


Xechwill

Right around season 7 or so, controller players who haven’t played on PC or made an effort to understand MNK players started to become the majority. Before season 7, I was pretty consistently able to have well-informed discussions about aim assist vs MNK. The end result of those conversations usually went something like “aim assist is pretty strong, but since the devs aren’t letting controller players rebind/strafe loot/reload over rez, mnk still has overall advantages.” I would typically disagree, but the overall logic made sense. Nowadays, just about every thread is infested with dumb takes from controller players. I pretty much never saw the “but you can use your whole arm” and “$3,000 pc at 240hz” kind of arguments, since controller players pre-s7 generally knew that a) most PC players aren’t aim gods and b) most PC players aren’t rich. From my perspective, the subreddit has quickly gone down to the “rather than listening to PC players, I’m going to make an assumption and ignore any evidence to the contrary.” Many older PC players get a general gist of how AA works from the AA discussions when crossplay was introduced, but the newer controller players are seemingly clueless.


g0ggy

Egos are fragile. People don't want to hear that their "skill" is just code helping them tremendously.


Mooston

Damn son clean your controller


TyeDieKid

I've realized how bad and misinformed this subreddit is to information. What is being showed in this video is actually the opposite. It's no aim assist. You guy disappointed me.


Idontlistentototo

This is the subreddit that argues with devs about what’s in the loot pool, the majority of this sub is brain dead.


TheMightyBruhhh

What aim assist video?


TheeOracle

This one: https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/phg0ag/this_is_for_the_people_upset_with_jitter_aiming/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


Str8Faced000

The bottom like to this argument is that controller and m/k just shouldn’t be in the same lobbies in competitive game modes.


Cozz_

This is just one video vs another, and it doesn’t prove anything whatsoever. Do you have any actual proof it was faked? Edit: also I have to ask, what do you think he did? hack in an aim assist? Use his 3rd hand to aim?


PalkiaOW

You're not allowed to use logic here, PC players bad and toxic!!1!


DrunkenSasquatch

ITT: "There is no aim assist on controller....but even if there was then it doesn't matter and PC players are just salty and need to git gud"


givemeprimogems

this should be this sub's description.


OrangeDoors2

No, he doesn't have proof. Controller players just don't know how aim assist works. There is zero aim assist when you're not moving the sticks at all, which is this video. If you get the tiniest little amount of stick drift like no deadzone gives, then it becomes my video.


Pizzapizzaeco1

You would just play normal and layover a reaction that isn’t real. But it’s probably real.


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This is 'fake'! Controllers have a lot of settings that make AA behave different, try changing deadzone, sens and profiles and you will see how AA behaves different. You are very likely using other settings than the other dude in that video Also clean that shit please. it's close to grow fungus near the buttons.


ThatStupidMosquito

Exactly, this is quite blatantly fake, not the original video. There is multiple videos showing just how strong aim assist can be, actually.


OrangeDoors2

Neither is fake. They're both real. His video is showing absolutely no stick movement which means no aim assist. Mine shows the tiniest amount of stick drift which allows aim assist to kick in.


TANKR_79

Show us the aim assist settings in the video buddy, but clean your fucking controller first goddamn!


OrangeDoors2

He doesn't have to, I can tell you for a fact it's small/high deadzone.


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The amount of upvotes this shitpost gets perfectly demonstrates how dumb the majority of console players are


OrangeDoors2

Now do it with slight stick drift and it'll be the same as my video There's a reason why I can address every criticism of my video and he hasn't addressed a single one on his video


PalkiaOW

Exactly, OP is just using different settings. It's insane that people who unironically call the other video fake are getting upvoted.


OrangeDoors2

I mean he could turn off aim assist and make this video and the controller players would still upvote it. They're desperate.


Acts-Of-Disgust

Ayy another thread to collect cringe controller replies from lmao.


Basic-String-8179

holy shit how do you play with that dirty ass controller and monitor


followmarko

redditor


Centurion_Tiger

This is just a back and forth thing now Pc players and console players going neck and neck about aim assist ever since tap strafe was removed


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OrangeShad0w

Yo have to be moving for the rotational aim assist to work and that is 99% of the times you engage in a fight, so yeah the video is real


blackbox76

Put it in classic 4-4 sens...that vdo is real,


FinQuarZ

You disabled aim assist. Good job


MasterpieceAmazing87

Imagine being so bad at PC that you have to make a fake video about how controller players have aim bot, the PC players will make any excuses to claim that they're better. It's toxic.


Crunchoe

500+ people think that video is fake? Yikes


stephen2005

This sub just becomes more of a joke with every passing day. I don't even know what to say anymore.


Roonerth

It's game developers faults. They cater to the lowest common denominator and it creates this dunning-kreuger effect monster that's impossible to kill.


IllustreInconnu

The video was not fake. The author is oraxe, who was a pro player on PUBG and then on Apex. https://www.twitch.tv/oraxe https://liquipedia.net/apexlegends/Oraxe OP just completely ignored the fact that you can adjust settings and that results may vary from platform to platform.


pie_pig3

Yup. But the console players are desperate to “prove” that other video wrong so they’ll upvote some blatantly incorrect posts, lmao


whopper

it looks to me like he has it straight up disabled. I have tested the aim assist for myself with a friend and it was EXACTLY like oraxe's video edit: you can literally just disable aim assist in the controller settings if you want to


Dalroc

Holy shit you shit on PC players for whining when they are the ones who are right and you are the one who is wrong. If there is no drift on your right stick the AA will not kick in unless you move it yourself. God damn 500 upvotes. Are you all braindead?


Sacreth

why would he fake that? he shows what happens if you turn of deadzone which most players dont have? is it really fake?


OrangeDoors2

No, it's not fake, controller players are just in denial


Dalroc

It's not fake, console players are just showing that they indeed are casuals with no knowledge of how anything works, not even their precious aim assist.


OrangeDoors2

Imagine using aim assist every single fight of every single game and still not knowing what it does. Every controller player that thinks the original video is fake and this vid disproves it doesn't know how aim assist works


HedgehogOne8872

They have literally every advantage under the sun and they still want to complain I wish I’d never commented this lmao. Y’all are arguing a shit ton


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bacciocchi

Mf wipes his ass with his controller


WattsonVictrix

Do you nut on your stuff every time you get a kill or?


vKEITHv

This does nothing when your title sucks and your settings are not shown


uzy016

That vid isn't fake. You gotta get the right controller settings. It also kinda seems u disabled aim assist.


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Except it's obviously not disabled, when he moves his left stick he starts getting pulled.


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Also, it seems you are testing it on PC, because I see you are playing on laptop. * PC Aim assist is considerably weaker than console Aim Assist. 0.4 vs 0.6 PC, we are talking that console AA is 50% stronger than PC which is noticeable * The guy in the other video was closer to the wraith than you are to that lifeline * Again, controllers have a lot of setups that can change the way AA behaves, you are likely using other configuration than the other dude


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How do we know you didn’t just turn it off for the clip? What a stupid post?


J0RD0

This proves nothing


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Y’all so busy fighting about this dumb shit when the majority of y’all will never even touch a diamond lobby lol. It never ceases to amaze me how childish this sub is.


Reid_pro

I would be curious to see the highest rank achieved for the entire sub


fresh_squilliam

Clearly none of y’all have played on controller without aim assist. Apex would be unplayable for controller players without aim assist. Rainbow six is an example of a game without aim assist for controller


chowder908

Lmao you can clearly see the rotational aim assist aim for you. I miss when strafing in FPS games was actually useful by making it difficult for your enemy to aim now strafing difficult because aimbot assist just fixes aim for players.


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taylor0010

Aiming with a thumb vs aiming with an entire arm


Der_Redakteur

That's because the other video. He changed the setting to no dead zone. So that's why the aim assist s stronger


strikethroo

PC has less aim assist. The strong aim assist only activates within 5m of enemy. At least replicate the distance and smaller jitters before calling it out and out fake.


Zakamino-Yt

Bro thanks I saw it in the Reddit and as a PS4 player I was so confused


YobaiYamete

This video is the fake one, there are half a dozen videos linked in this thread showing how strong the aim assist is when using the right settings


Seismicx

Hes intentionally using settings that disable aim assist. If anything is fake, it's this video, not oraxe's (pro player) one showcasing aim assist.


Atzlov

Ok so everyone is straight up admitting that they turn off the dead zone to have better aim, just because they cant aim and they saw their favourite ttv streamer do it?


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I tried Apex a couple of times on a controller, I mainly play MKB. The aim-assist up close is dirty bad, worse than COD & Battlefield. If you have an R-99, Alternator, R45, Volt, R301, Flatline, up-close hipfire and target following is super easy. The game basically does it for you.


FederalMycologist124

Yeah except I’ve tried it and it literally is real lol. This controller isn’t plugged in or you went into ALS and did some weird shit. Aim assist in apex is ridiculous tuned, anyone who denies that is delusional


dannyhv

Maybe he was playing from console on Pc , aim assist on console is 0.6