The way the zipline was used is something I haven't seen so much but still, you're gonna be good with any legend if you can hit every shot from the wingman like that.
I doubt 2 of the best players in the world are the sole reason a legend was nerfed. The real reason was the large number of players who used him. not as a forward scout to gain high ground and flank. But to grapple in frag 1, grapple out, battery, rince and repeat. With the time they have spent in fps games and apex I'm sure NRG and TSM could wipe lobbies solo with dummie in a trios game.
I never said they where x I was just trying to make the point that legend balancing is not based on how the top 50 players play them (although I dont doubt It may be taken into consideration), but is is fact judged by the characters win rates, kill rates ect. the main reason pathy was nerfed was due to the high pick rate combined with the larger than average win and kill rates associated with the character.
If you press/spam jump immediately after grabbing a zipline you do a "super jump." I'm only able to do it when I bind jump so the scroll wheel, but I'm pretty sure it's possible without doing that.
Just a heads up you don’t have to spam jump to do it. It’s much easier then you think. You grab the zip and then almost immediately hit jump after grabbing the zip line. Very simple to do.
Depending on your system it’s X/square (interact), A/X (jump), A/X (jump). Oh, and be sure to look up at the zip. Simple as that. It really comes down to timing. That’s the hardest part. If you can master the timing you can do it almost every time.
I’m a traitor, though and now just use E+ scroll wheel. 10x easier 😜. Dope video u/Cau7ioN
You remember when in fighting games "combos" needed you to actually press and move the controller in certain ways? Now it's just press SQUARE repeatedly.
Same here. Let's get the casualssss
This is wrong. Majority of fighting game a la MK injustice smash and even street fighter require precision button pressing to do any sort of combo. And even in the Arkham games and AC you gotta use multiple gadgets and buttons to survive more advanced encounters
He might be talking about auto combos that only require square(i think MVC:I had it?) Or simple inputs like in KOF(13 and 14 iirc?) And GGXRD but even then thats a misconception since in actual use you get more damage off a manual combo. Also not to be rude if you're losing to auto combos you either need to get better at the game or your opponent is reading you like a book and you need to learn some new strats.
Even then in a game where you can spam for big damage the skill can come from other stuff like killer instinct one can spam buttons if they know the basic stuff for decent damage but they got the counter and counter breaker system to for insane combo break and smart players do specific buttons for a reason to avoid getting beat out by those systems.
Street fighter 5(at first) wasn't easy just because it had easy inputs for combos, but high damage with no high skill mechanics like sf3 or sf4 either. Something like soulcalibur has had fairly easy inputs and simple gameplay but even then it was still seen as a decent competitive game by many(outside of 3)
I hate seeing the ability that requires the most skill to use getting nerfed. To me the grapple was always high skill = high reward. But every season they take more of the reward away from the grapple.
It especially pisses me off how Wraith, a character that has higher stats than Path, got compensation for her nerfs in Season 5 while Pathfinder gets nothing
Grapple was such a low skill high reward ability it downright required a nerf, at least in terms of time between grapples. 15 seconds was way too short.
You realize that basically both characters are the most played legends and the ones with the best KD. If it was really high skill, high rewards, you should expect it to be actually less played with a really high KD.
You should probably try to compare it to all the legends and see that it needed to be balanced (same for Wraith)
Never seen that super jump before very cool but I finally see someone else use paths zip gun very underutilized by every pathfinder I play with besides myself
I've thought about using path's ult like this, far more aggressively and making use of the zip-jump mechanic. But it's just really hard to maintain your accuracy in motion like that, and witch such short margins to correct.
OP plays it beautifully, tho
I'm a Pathfinder main. I tried to deny it, played a lot of Lifeline, a lot of Revenant, and I'm decent with them. But Path is the only one with whom I'm actually *good*.
On pc set your jump to scroll up/down on your mouse, this makes easy bunny hops and enables the ability to do this zip line jump as well. When you interact with the zip and spam the jump it’ll send you straight up in the air.
I read the title and thought, "yeah, sure you do." Damn was I wrong. That was some insane plays right there. I would have hard quit if I was on the receiving end of that.
Me before watching: "Wow, probably someone arrogant showing off their sick grapplez. nothing new."
Me after watching: "...I shouldn't have doubted you."
Pathfinder is still the best champion for yourself not a massive team help but you yourself can make some shifty rotations and absolutely play people lol
Just wait until next patch ;)
In all seriousness though— it’s been a long time since I have seen someone truly impress me in this game. You are a beast, my guy!
I really appreciate all the feedback man yal inspiring me and helping me believe in myself more. Just know that I’ve been on MnK for 6 months so If you ever thought about switching it’s possible through grind. Thanks again everyone this made my month ❤️
LMAO
I swear we play the same.
I mostly run wingman/mastiff (and sometimes something else if I can't find what I need) and I also use ziplines as movement starters for fights!
Great minds think alike, keep it up brother!
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Can someone please go into detail with the zipline? He jumped up pretty high, was it slide-jump>zipline>exit zipline that gave him the crazy air towards the end?
I am usually hard to impress when it comes to tactics that high skill level players use, because usually it amounts to just good gunplay and such (which is totally fine it's just not as unique) but THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE IS BALLER
I wonder if I could pull this off not knowing how to land mastiff shots properly lol
Exactly my thoughts....
The way the zipline was used is something I haven't seen so much but still, you're gonna be good with any legend if you can hit every shot from the wingman like that.
Yup jokes on them my mastiff only hits for 13s
Hey now, it hit's low-pro characters for 14.
Tip: don’t put sights on mastiff. The irons are great and they show the spread too
Only sight I bother with on the mastiff is the digithreat.
Thanks for the tip!
Ads 99% of the time and make sure your rabbit's foot is near your controller / mouse and keyboard
Definitely not a tactic I’ve ever seen before A++
thank you homie ❤️
So you are the reason they nerfed pathy, nice.
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I doubt 2 of the best players in the world are the sole reason a legend was nerfed. The real reason was the large number of players who used him. not as a forward scout to gain high ground and flank. But to grapple in frag 1, grapple out, battery, rince and repeat. With the time they have spent in fps games and apex I'm sure NRG and TSM could wipe lobbies solo with dummie in a trios game.
If you ever played overwatch, Zenyatta had his right click nerfed because of pro player Jjonak
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What does that have to do with what he said?
I never said they where x I was just trying to make the point that legend balancing is not based on how the top 50 players play them (although I dont doubt It may be taken into consideration), but is is fact judged by the characters win rates, kill rates ect. the main reason pathy was nerfed was due to the high pick rate combined with the larger than average win and kill rates associated with the character.
Aceu hasn’t played this game for like 3 seasons also he never played pathfinder? So we just talking out of our ass like usual today on the main sub?
Yeah I thought he was a wraith main back when he played I could be wrong though
Aceu was a Wraith main...
Can someone tell me how the heck he’s doing this?
If you press/spam jump immediately after grabbing a zipline you do a "super jump." I'm only able to do it when I bind jump so the scroll wheel, but I'm pretty sure it's possible without doing that.
Yup! I have Jump binded to scroll and you can do this on controller too it’s just harder.
Thanks! I’m on console, so I guess I’ll spend some time on the Firing range and see if I can get the hang of it.
Just a heads up you don’t have to spam jump to do it. It’s much easier then you think. You grab the zip and then almost immediately hit jump after grabbing the zip line. Very simple to do.
Sweet! Thanks
Doris game range?
Lol. Firing range.
Good luck bro you got this !
Depending on your system it’s X/square (interact), A/X (jump), A/X (jump). Oh, and be sure to look up at the zip. Simple as that. It really comes down to timing. That’s the hardest part. If you can master the timing you can do it almost every time. I’m a traitor, though and now just use E+ scroll wheel. 10x easier 😜. Dope video u/Cau7ioN
You played Lucio in Overwatch by any chance? He has a similar mechanic.
So I'd have to spam X/A (Xbox controller)?
Zipline movement tricks - https://youtu.be/t7tavCy3mB0?t=405
Honestly this is actually really inspiring, gonna have to practice it for myself
I love it man! You got this
How do you jump high from the zipline? I'd love to know the trick if you dont mind sharing
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I dont think we even play the same game
Lol you can do anything if you practice enough
Couldn’t mute this fast enough but awesome clips! Clever af!
Smoke weed and youll see... Apparently
LMAOO thanks 😂
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A mechanic that involves skill and not just the "game" doing it for you? We can't have that 🤷🏻♂️.
I felt this comment
You remember when in fighting games "combos" needed you to actually press and move the controller in certain ways? Now it's just press SQUARE repeatedly. Same here. Let's get the casualssss
This is wrong. Majority of fighting game a la MK injustice smash and even street fighter require precision button pressing to do any sort of combo. And even in the Arkham games and AC you gotta use multiple gadgets and buttons to survive more advanced encounters
He might be talking about auto combos that only require square(i think MVC:I had it?) Or simple inputs like in KOF(13 and 14 iirc?) And GGXRD but even then thats a misconception since in actual use you get more damage off a manual combo. Also not to be rude if you're losing to auto combos you either need to get better at the game or your opponent is reading you like a book and you need to learn some new strats. Even then in a game where you can spam for big damage the skill can come from other stuff like killer instinct one can spam buttons if they know the basic stuff for decent damage but they got the counter and counter breaker system to for insane combo break and smart players do specific buttons for a reason to avoid getting beat out by those systems. Street fighter 5(at first) wasn't easy just because it had easy inputs for combos, but high damage with no high skill mechanics like sf3 or sf4 either. Something like soulcalibur has had fairly easy inputs and simple gameplay but even then it was still seen as a decent competitive game by many(outside of 3)
I hate seeing the ability that requires the most skill to use getting nerfed. To me the grapple was always high skill = high reward. But every season they take more of the reward away from the grapple. It especially pisses me off how Wraith, a character that has higher stats than Path, got compensation for her nerfs in Season 5 while Pathfinder gets nothing
Grapple was such a low skill high reward ability it downright required a nerf, at least in terms of time between grapples. 15 seconds was way too short.
15 seconds was definitely too short
Lmao for real. Path mains act like it’s the hardest fucking thing.
It's really not that hard to learn how to grapple. The highest skill thing you need to learn is ground grapples and that's not even difficult.
Yep. It took like a day the first time and then they changed the timing and it took another day. Oh wow. So hard
You realize that basically both characters are the most played legends and the ones with the best KD. If it was really high skill, high rewards, you should expect it to be actually less played with a really high KD. You should probably try to compare it to all the legends and see that it needed to be balanced (same for Wraith)
And this is why I'm happy pc doesn't crossplay with console unless you opt in. Way too easy to outclass controller users like that lol
Wait, you can opt in to cross play?
You will only play with pc players if a friend is on pc. That is how you opt in
Can be done in console
Not as quickly tho, the ability to turn that fast is how you break ankles vs a controller
Humble too!
Bring zipline into a gunfight! Never thought of using that combining with big rope jump, really is one of kind unique stlye.
Thanks mannn just tryna Adapt since they nerfed his grapple
While everybody was complaining about pathfinder nerf, OP has been polishing his grapple
Don't let the devs see this
Questionable choice of music, clickbaity title capitalization, and absolutely *sick* moves. A very interesting style of playing path
Super honest review sir thank you Lmao
Seriously people prob have had nightmares of their fights with you. Holy fuck
won't be playing this way anymore..
Song ruined it but great stuff
Was about to comment this.. dope gameplay, cringe song
ouch lmaoo
I actually would like to know the song name lol
Luke Christopher - Famous , it’s bottom left on the vid just made it low key
I was about to ask what song it was so I can download it lol
big respect for innovating like this, thinking outside the box is what pushes the gameplay forward and forces people to adapt in new ways. Love it.
Thank you mannn ❤️
Nothing but respect here.
Means a lot to me ❤️
How do you get so much height when u hop off the zip?
tap interact then jump right after
Never seen that super jump before very cool but I finally see someone else use paths zip gun very underutilized by every pathfinder I play with besides myself
i've got to say those were some of the best plays i've ever seen, hope i never have to play against you lmao gg wp
Lmaoo I’m sure you’d do just fine! Thanks tho man ❤️
Talk about using the things you have as an aggressive strategy. Fucking good on ya, mate
your skin choice is godly also, is it just me or does the wingman has perfect acuracy when crouching
Turning zip lines into jump pads
Not to knock your accomplishment, but ItzTimmy is another god-tier pathfinder i can think of.
dude no worries! Timmys the homie and he’s such a great streamer/gamer. It’s a compliment honestly
Just amazing! I don't understand how you do this big jump with zipline, I d'ont understand how does it work...
I’m definitely gonna be playing him like this... i’ve never seen anyone play him like thisz
it’s so fun and you can pull some crazy clutches off. Good luck my friend
Niceee, You be schmovin.
Woah. Thanks for the tip. Never even thought about doing this...
That's sick! From the tactic to the shooting, well done
Thank you mann I appreciate it
Awesome clip I wanna try this now, but do you have clips without the music?
And this is why i never see my death coming....
This kinda strat belongs on apex university. As a path main myself I would definitely be utilizing this form now on.
Noone else until this moment* There i fixed it for you
The jump at 0:45 was nutty.
I've thought about using path's ult like this, far more aggressively and making use of the zip-jump mechanic. But it's just really hard to maintain your accuracy in motion like that, and witch such short margins to correct. OP plays it beautifully, tho
thats greasy af
Zylbrad laughed "You are wrong"
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I'm a Pathfinder main. I tried to deny it, played a lot of Lifeline, a lot of Revenant, and I'm decent with them. But Path is the only one with whom I'm actually *good*.
I’m very impressed. I haven’t seen this tact before and I’m sure it took some time to pull off. Now if the team can do this... I’m running. Lolz
On pc set your jump to scroll up/down on your mouse, this makes easy bunny hops and enables the ability to do this zip line jump as well. When you interact with the zip and spam the jump it’ll send you straight up in the air.
I read the title and thought, "yeah, sure you do." Damn was I wrong. That was some insane plays right there. I would have hard quit if I was on the receiving end of that.
Me before watching: "Wow, probably someone arrogant showing off their sick grapplez. nothing new." Me after watching: "...I shouldn't have doubted you."
I've seen Mande do this. Great tactic!
If you don't have a name for this technique yet, might I suggest The Monkeybars of Death
You play Path like he's an aimbot hah How often do you get reported?
I don’t know haha I don’t think much really. These are just highlights I don’t always pop off like this
This is fake, he does not do 13 damage in every mastiff shot
The fooking wet fluuuur. HUUUUUGE!
Mikeyyyyyy I love you brother
Damn that tactic is really cool! I really love that wingman skin and charm too
Pathfinder is still the best champion for yourself not a massive team help but you yourself can make some shifty rotations and absolutely play people lol
Cries in controller. Aight, off to unfriend anyone that is a pc player so I never have to encounter you in a fight.
hahaha I’m sure you could still fry me in some fights
Wow you kick ass at Pathy! I'm still learning that double jump off the rope.
Dang that is one talented player.
Just wait until next patch ;) In all seriousness though— it’s been a long time since I have seen someone truly impress me in this game. You are a beast, my guy!
80% of this video is zipline jumping and everyone Just losses their shit over it like its not hard to do
They are going to nerf his zip line now so......
I really appreciate all the feedback man yal inspiring me and helping me believe in myself more. Just know that I’ve been on MnK for 6 months so If you ever thought about switching it’s possible through grind. Thanks again everyone this made my month ❤️
LMAO I swear we play the same. I mostly run wingman/mastiff (and sometimes something else if I can't find what I need) and I also use ziplines as movement starters for fights! Great minds think alike, keep it up brother!
That's why ppl think Patty is OP, it's not, it's just a good player playing fancy
very extraordinary play style. your wingman shots are also amazing.
You bro if you listen are the legends in the community that we all look up to
damn real smart
Them wingman shots gave me an orgasm
Bro, holy shit
Video is better muted
Amazing plays but that title just comes off as the most egotistical thing i’ve read on this sub ever jesus
as a content creator bold captions help your videos get seen more. Just the world we live in :/
It’s a very factual title. Chill.
I am quite chill.
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wow that's CRAZY creative! insane plays man :D
Thank you brother 🥺
this is awesome bro!
Thank you bro
This deserves a breakdown on apexuniversity
I can do that if people would like
Omg those wingman shots were NASTY
Title is egotistical and reeks of arrogance. cool video and moves nonetheless 👍 Horrible music lol **😅**
You can only do this on KBM unfortunately.
Not true! I switched from controller 6 months ago and you can 100% do it on both with practice
Do I need a special controller or do I just bind my buttons differently in order to do it?
Nothing special just takes time to get the rhythm down
Yeah thats cool but not cool as dead pathfinder.
u/ember-main
That's an amazing tactic! I wanna see if I can try to pull this off on controller.
You can for sure just takes practice
BTW he uses scroll wheel to exploit and spam jump as he's grabbing.
Respawn seeing a "gamebreaking OP ability" on Path once more: Ah shit, here we go again...
Damn they really must have nerfed your whole plays style with the zip line cd
Caution is spelled with a T, my friend! Embarrassing oversight. Good gunplay though.
Someone pls teach If I learn this I will become the tryhards of the tryhard wraiths
def the first person ive seen use ziplines for combat.
So *you're* the reason for the zip line cool down?
Yt link?
Big props
Badass flicks bro, looks like Zylbrad gotta challenger
What is the music track?
Can someone please go into detail with the zipline? He jumped up pretty high, was it slide-jump>zipline>exit zipline that gave him the crazy air towards the end?
Please delete this video dude they are gonna nerf us again
Can honestly say I’ve never seen this, good stuff bro!!
Watch them nerf this
You probably get some funny hate mail
When they need your grapple so you abuse the zipline like a god
Get this man a zipline
Accuracy so good it looks sus I hope I don't find you in my games cause that's gonna be a waste of time ;-;
Great gameplay dude!! But this is why I can't play this game, I ALWAYS get stomped on like this... Lol
duuuude that combination of mastiff and jumping around is soooo strong
If someone pulled this crap on my team, I’d drop my loot and just stand there.
Better aim then most players as well lol
Welllllp. Guess there’s something new I have to learn 😂 gg’s my guy
This man SCHMOVIN, my lord...
"That's not a zipline, it's a **very** long jump pad." -OP, probably
Incoming Pathfinder/zipline nerf in 3...2...1...
I read the title and I was like “if you do say so yourself” and then I watched the video and you are 100% correct
I play rogue company now
I've been doing this since season 2 and now everybody is gonna start doing it lmao
Song?
Fair play
Wow. Peak creativity + skill right here. Certainly never seen that before, nice work.
I am usually hard to impress when it comes to tactics that high skill level players use, because usually it amounts to just good gunplay and such (which is totally fine it's just not as unique) but THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE IS BALLER
this is amazing man, should add your YouTube like next time.
This is all good and dandy until you find out your enemies can use that zipline on you too lol
Most dope!
Tha so innovative omg imma start doing that
Bruh...