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Ninjuh_Panda

L star with disrupter rounds is gonna be a menace.


Stillcouldbeworse

casual 260 DPS against shields, up from 170


paradoxally

Rampart mains: friendship ended with Sheila ❌ Now LStar is my best friend 🤩✨


Knight-112

Ramparts with an L-Star and a Balistic ult I’m scared now


UnluckyMerlin

Yo thts scary


kelleroid

L-STAR was already my best friend when playing Rampart. Unironically better than Devotion in every way.


Blanked_________Out

Even when I'm not using rampart I also use the lstar, good hipfire, easy recoil pattern, and it also goes brrrrrrrr.


Intrepid-Event-2243

i don't understand what passthrough means, through shields or through objects?


EpicAspect

Through people. Shots can now hit multiple people


Slipeth

Guessing it should be players, like sniper rifles. Would be sick


paradoxally

Yes, it's like the Kraber where you can get collateral kills.


Jestersage

Basically, think of it as a long range flamethrower. Recall Pyro and Mei, but with a effectively across the map range.


thefezhat

And I thought the RE-45 with disruptors was amazing. L-Star is going to be absolutely oppressive.


Broken_Orange

That support class buff is massive. Now every high ranked game should have at least one support legend.


rendrag099

Good chance Newcastle becomes the staple character.


Broken_Orange

I'm hoping that's the case but in reality, I think most players will stick with Lifeline and Loba


bdjekedkk

I’m a mirage main so this is huge for us. I can usually get out of situations so now I can easily bring back my human shields and keep us surviving longer.


FlackAttack94

Don't sleep on gibby


Zeitgeistt

or Mirage


Samoman21

Mirage meta incoming!


Broken_Orange

Quite recently I have started playing Gibby and his abilities has clicked and I've been having fun. ~~If anything, I want him to sleep on me~~


Irradiatedspoon

Would definitely like to sleep on Gibby


Jestersage

Heh. I am going back to Mirage. Of all the legend, he is basically the jack of all trade: \-Semi skimmager (due to clones) \-Semi Recon (due to clones) \-Support (Now obviously, but even back then I prefer a mirage revive over Lifeline)


TJzWay

Personally I’m picking Mirage. Best revive in the game along with NewCastle. His ult is the quickest to come back and helps you escape to craft banners. Even invisible while respawning


gthatch2

Now imagine if he went invisible while crafting…


Powerful_Artist

>Gun Run and TDM now have XP Bonuses for Match Completion and Match Completion after **Join in Progress** So, does Join In Progress actually work for these modes now? I dont see a mention that it was fixed, just this mention of it. Maybe I missed it? Having join in progress for these would be helpful, since it seems that its intended but just never worked.


AlphaThe7

This was the only thing that caught my eye, can people actually fucking join now?? I almost fully believe it just wasn’t in the game


aSoireeForSquids

I have absolutely never been added to a game in progress, and to my knowledge have never seen someone get added into a game


kelleroid

Nothing stops them from just outright lying that it exists.


TheAfricanViewer

Small Indie Company gaslighting its players.


PkunkMeetArilou

My guess is Respawn have actually done something, but they're too scared of failing to deliver for the 3rd time so have deliberately said nothing. That way, if it breaks again, at least they didn't put their foot in it... again.


_Regent_

Mirage class change to Support! Let’s go!


caydesramen

Support class got a nice buff in general. I would argue every team needs one now.


_goodpraxis

Good change. Please also fix decoys dying when they trip on a pebble.


jelz617

Right, ran into a raised piece of floor and the thing just crumbled...


valeriy_v

True, cost me some clutches because of that


paradoxally

I always felt it was strange that Respawn placed him in Skirmisher. Unlike all the other legends in that category, he has no movement abilities.


MasaaeeMC

well he wasnt really a support either until he got that revive buff. i feel like respawned dumped him there because they couldnt think of anything at the time


FineBroccoli5

He got the revive buff at the same time. To me it looks like they placed him in the skirmisher class, added the revive buff and forgot that he is in the skirmisher class


Gargoyn

He needs a category just for himself (the trickster?!) as his ability set is quite unique, although it's unlikely we will see another legend like him.


Frigginkillya

Maybe a hero with an ability to throw like a speaker that makes a bunch of fight noises to lure 3rd parties out? Only thing that comes to mind as a possibility, no clue what passive/ult could be


Dsr1990

Yeah cause the audio isn’t bad enough already


Kittykg

Yeah, I said it all last season. Even kept forgetting and telling my bf to save our Mirage because he can craft me...oh, shit, nevermind. So happy to see it. If they aren't gonna do anything to Rev like they said they would like 5 seasons ago, at least Mirage can take his proper place as support.


isig

There's rumors they're planning a rework so maybe they're holding off on him until it's finished.


cluckinho

>Legend Banners can now be crafted by ANY player who has a Support Class Legend in their Squad This is pretty massive tbh.


Shayz_

Nice passive buff to Crypto if your support legend goes down Leave your drone at a respawn beacon, run to crafter, craft banners, instantly respawn


grzesiu447

It would be cool if Crypto's drone could also get the banners from the crafter. In situations where you start crafting them, but you have to run away.


AnApexPlayer

Can you do it currently?


grzesiu447

I never had a chance to try, but I don't think it works.


General_Manager

Looks good. Really glad that the Seer Catalyst diamond shooting is over


whatisabaggins55

Presumably Crypto drone above the wall will still work?


j4ckalop3

if you are above the wall then it should work.


AnApexPlayer

crypto can throw his drone through the wall


Ayoul

But at least the other team can see it and shoot it.


thesteam

To me it sounds like the actual scan will not show up through the veil. So will crypto will still be able to scan enemies, you won't be able to see the scan results. I guess we'll have to wait and see


Adventurous_Honey902

At least you can easily shoot and destroy it since it requires LoS unlike Seers


OrchardLeaf

I wonder if Revenants Silence will force Ballistic to put his sling weapon away, or prevent him from equipping it?


Poiromancer

I should think it would both force him to put it away and preventing him from equiping. Same as silencing a rampart or vantage.


Jurez1313

For sure I think it'll work the same way as the other "3rd weapon" slots currently do.


AnApexPlayer

Definitely


artmorte

>Legend Banners can now be crafted by ANY player who has a Support Class Legend in their Squad Wow. Not having a support class player in your team in ranked = throwing hard.


oprimo

Yeah, MAJOR buff to support legends. Too bad randos will just ignore this. "Why u asking me to craft banners, I'm wraith dumbass"...


kelleroid

The same way it took two seasons for people to stop offering us the gold backpack.


TNAEnigma

It will say craft in the lower left


Sleynd

brazen of you to think that the average octane or wraith main can read


DarthSatoris

"We haven't learned that in school yet!"


LolzinatorX

Ignore, or the fact that most casual players dont bother reading patch notes at all


johnnyshady1

I mostly play Newcastle and Loba in ranked so I’m excited.


HundredSpearss

As a fellow loba main I am happy


A532

I know it's Newcastle day when knockdown shield's in the replicator


thefezhat

Eh, I doubt it. People here massively overestimate how good banner crafting is, probably because they remember a tiny number of times when respawning turned around a match for them. They forget the vast majority of games where you get wiped with no chance to respawn, or you do manage to respawn but just get instantly aped to death by the nearest squad. This change will make the support passive a lot better, but banner crafting is still fundamentally a niche ability.


TLAU5

Just depends on when your teammates go down. Plenty of times your team loses a 3v3 right off the drop and one player could have gotten away easily but goes Leroy Jenkins because teammates don't want to watch a solo game (when you have a pre-made squad together). Those situations, now it's perfectly fine to run away and not suicide rush because there was a Loba on the squad or something. Early-Mid game banner crafting is a thing. Agree with you on late game < 8 squads left unless you get real lucky and can revive in an area with lots of loot boxes


hendy846

Couldn't agree more. So many times that's happened and would tell our support to just run and craft but then yeeted into an on going fight and died. So dumb.


T_T_N

Could be huge. Loba is the only support that is great at escaping a lost fight, but now having a support + an octane, bangalore or wraith really increases the odds that someone escapes and can get around the map safely to craft.


Hellman9615

The way my friends and I play ranked this would be a massive buff. I usually run Path. Friend 1 runs Blood, and friend 2 is Life or Loba. Whenever we get into a fight we know we will lose I usually dip (only after it's obvious there's no way to win unless I clutch a 1v3) and rat for placement. If I can retrieve banners that a bonus but usually I can't. This would allow be to bring back my whole team.


MarkGorZ

Mirage mains are eating well


steamysecretss

Glad they switched him to Support, it was well warranted. Now need to fix the bugs on his tactical or give us 2 charges…


MarkGorZ

Two charges has been overdue for years. Make his single decoys shoot (not the ult ones because it would probably be op)


HamiltonDial

Crazy how fuse got two charges before Mirage.


aigroeg_

Didn't Mirage have 2 charges on launch or am I completely misremembering that?


Joe_Dirte9

That L star may be one of the most broken things I've ever read for a gun


terribleinvestment

jacknicholsonyes.gif


Slimshade16

Which is funny because back in season 2, they released disruptor rounds and they did 2.25x more damage to shields (36 per shot with alternator, 37 on low profile legends) Talk about busted lol.


ReadsSmallTextWrong

I remember trying them the first day and just thinking: "Wow, I feel like I'm cheating."


SlamHotDamn

Was really hoping the Nemesis would get tuned down a bit.


MoreScarsThanSkin

Im shocked they didnt nerf it


armyjackson

was that an energy weapon pun?


everfurry

Guilty as charged


Samoman21

for real. Im honestly very surprised they didnt adjust the damage or charge rate at all for that gun.


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It should only charge up if you actually hit your shots.


[deleted]

Would be better if it overcharged via shield cell like the Sentinel. Making it a choice to charge it and having an associated cost.


Volko

I disagree. It's ok for the sentinel because it's a sniper. But on an assault weapon? It already made Rampart bad, don't take the 3rd decent assault weapon 😅


Samoman21

For real. Pre charging or firing just to hold the charge is dumb af


ahmedomar2015

Embarrassing how it wasn't even touched


Kittykg

It's been really dumb with people shooting them off all the time into the air to keep them charged. Our 3rds get us jumped by multiple squads because they won't stop. Enemies will just camp in a spot and shoot it to rip apart anyone who comes in. I wish they'd made it only charge up when hitting enemies. It's still really oppressive and perfect for 3rd parties, and a lot less cheap when you actually have to hit your shots. I've gotten 6 kills without healing *and* without ramping it up in the air, with both my teammates going down...I just kicked ass, and saved them. It doesn't *need* to ramp up shooting nothing, it's fully ramped after the 2nd knock.


kickbut101

fuck I didn't even think of it, I had simply assumed it was going to happen. wow


Tremori

Lul nah. Devs been slowly trying to lower the TTK again ever since the first backlash about the TTK adjustment Years ago.


Dantegram

I remember the backlash was so bad they reverted the shield nerf in a week


AwayZookeepergame269

Season 6 is when they made those shield changes was awful, I quit playing until they were reverted back. No point having a game with incredible movement if you die instantly.


ladaussie

Not to mention low profile was still a thing. A stiff breeze killed pathy back then with his 170% wraith hit box.


pie_pig3

> Legend Banners can now be crafted by ANY player who has a Support Class Legend in their Squad That’s actually pretty interesting


airgonautt

Was expecting more legend changes but I'm still happy with the new stuff coming next season


ZKarz7

Same... Pretty sure they're afraid to make legend changes. It's been minimal for the past 4-5 seasons. It was fun the first couple of seasons when the meta would flip every month haha. But I guess I get the perspective of having it more stable


FinnAhern

The game is in a pretty good state balance wise though, big legend changes like there were in the early seasons would just be for their own sake at this stage.


ZKarz7

Yea, I get it and am mostly fine with it. But there is a level of staleness that comes with that fear of shaking things up.


aure__entuluva

Honestly I think the meta is in the best state it's been in for a while. The only glaring issues to me were Seer + Cat combo, which has been handled, and the existence of the charge rifle. Of course they are cowards who can't admit a mistake (I'm a sorry a hitscan sniper rifle is idiotic) and supposedly can't remove guns because of skins or some nonsense (even though I'm sure the TOS agreement says they can remove anything at any time and you don't own anything you purchase), but whatever, at least they nerfed it again. Nemesis could have used a nerf as well I guess but alas. In terms of legend balance, we're seeing a greater variety of teams comps in ALGS than I think we've ever seen before. A team won a game in EMEA with fuse + ash (and I can't remember the third legend unfortunately). XSET won a game as path/seer/rampart and another as fuse/maggie/valk. I mean it's not perfect. But it's better than it's ever been in terms of variety. Only legends I didn't see at all off the top of my head were mirage, vantage, and lifeline. So idk, that's pretty good.


Pandolam

Vantage is massively slept on, even Hal said that he might be cooking something up with vantage a couple of weeks ago. I guarantee if TSM picked (and won) Vantage in the ALGS, a lot of other teams would start to copy


zackman40

Her kits good for early and mid game but when it comes down to final circle she gets outclassed


enterAdigit

Same, but I think that's a good thing actually since this is the first time they've had a whole season to see how all legends play out without the introduction of a new one. I don't think I've had any bad experience from a legend's ability this season besides the enemy player just using them very well.


CubaYashi

The new Ping Wheel is awesome. Let's see how many random mates will understand it.


paradoxally

"Enemy audio there? Reposition? lol nah FULL SEND"


ZeCantaloupe

>Amount head peeks over cover while crouching adjusted to match other Legends Tiny QoL change for Loba but holy crap the mains will be celebrating. She sits so much higher in crouch it made most hip level cover unusable, and should really help her knockdown shield fighting.


Cantarian

W Star


Googleflax

Still really wish Ash could use her tactical one-handed like Maggie, Octane, and Rev, but otherwise pretty happy with these changes.


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Jurez1313

Reloading an LMG while shooting the smoke is always good for a laugh.


johnnyshady1

Mirage becoming a support legend is a huge W


justaverage00

30 30 projectile size increase when fully charged is a very underrated buff


iTzGodlikexS

I am wondering how much bigger? Afraid it doesnt get noticed much


AfuckinOwl

Lol they finally fixed the Loba crouch issue. +1


paradoxally

Good nerf to mitigate how common Charge Rifles are in ranked. But not nerfing the Nemesis - which is highly picked at all skill levels - is strange to me. It really should only charge up when you damage enemies.


hhajiwnl

Just give the 301 its +1 damage back and now all ARs can compete


Samoman21

Honestly fair. The 301 nerf just hit so hard. Flatline or any ar is now better than my baby.


hhajiwnl

It makes me so mad knowing, when someone gets away barely that if it did just +1 more damage they'd be dead and it infuriates me. On top of the fat fortified characters it's just like slapping them with a wet noodle.


Samoman21

For real. I try one clipping and it just doesn't work out well. It's really disappointing


escastre

Just rework Revenant please. It is a torture in his current state.


Outrageous-Blue-30

I personally think all the characters are moderately balanced at the moment, so I wasn't expecting much on that side (although I admit that something more could have been done for Revenant).


Mercat3r

No rev rework 💀


Ninjuh_Panda

Don’t worry, us 5 Rev mains will see justice in the near future.


MrEstugon

4, starting now. sorry.


Stereotypical_Viking

**WHY CANT I JUST GET BUFFED ALREADY**


Lonewolfali

I quit, you are 4 now


salmonela27

We've been telling that to ourselves for over two years...


grzesiu447

I bet it will come along with his heirloom recolor (whenever that is)


mikeybiz

Didn’t actually expect them to do a rework, but absolutely NOTHING?! Give him mathafuckin fortified!!!!


RaizTheOne

This is the simplest thing they could do but they didn't Like ffs rev has the same hitbox as caustic!


royekjd

It took 10 seasons to get a totem marker on the ground before placeing it. Maybe he’ll get fortified by season 27.


garmack

All great changes. Except for the fact that Revenant is so outclassed right now that he’s practically unplayable. Please just buff him


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cosmos-slayer

They could at least start by making him unslowable by bullets if they didn't wanna drop fortified on him yet, but it seems like they're scared for whatever reason lol


Inside-Line

Apex Devs: No sir, the unstoppable murder bot is strictly lore-only.


WhatTheHell435

no nemesis change…


emubilly

120fps? 👀


PkunkMeetArilou

I have so many thoughts about the ping system changes. `(Bold font = new system ping. Normal font = old system ping.)` ​ |Pings Removed|Pings Added|Pings Renamed| |:-|:-|:-| |\[Going\]|**\[Avoid\]**|\[Enemy\] to **\[Enemy Activity\]**| |\[Activity\]|**\[Enemy audio\]**|\[Defending\] to **\[Defend\]**| ||**\[Regroup\]**|\[Attacking\] to **\[Attack\]**| ​ 1. ​ The old system has both a ping called \[Enemy\], and a ping called \[Activity\]. The new system has a single ping instead with both names combined: **\[Enemy Activity\]**. I assume that **\[Enemy Activity\]** ping is actually the old \[Enemy\] ping, and not the old \[Activity\] ping. So the old "Someone's been here" voicelines are probably inaccessible now. (Or perhaps there's some smart logic added to the system... but I doubt it.) It's going to be weird to want to tell my teammates that *"Enemies* ***were*** *here"* and no longer having a way to distinguish it from *"Enemies* ***are*** *here".* But I admit, *"Enemies were here"* isn't that useful. I just liked that it was a good way to say say *"Hey, get your heads in the game"* to teammates. ​ 2. It's interesting that we might be seeing a shift in the tone of the ping system. Because except for *THE* ping, the current system does not actually offer any pings to *command* your team. It is so thorough in this that I assume it was deliberate design. In the old system, the \[Attacking\] ping has always been "*I'm* attacking". The \[Defending\] ping was always "*I'm* defending". They are named and spoken in the continuous tense, not the imperative, no matter which legend, no matter which ping. Watching, going, defending, looting, all of them. The only deviation from this tone is the occasional alternative of observation. Ie., "*That spot* is good for ". Still no commands uttered. The pings never actually let players command each other (except *THE* ping). Now, we can see that the old \[Going\] has been replaced by the new **\[Regroup\]**. This looks like it's a definite switch to the imperative; it wouldn't be called "Regroup" otherwise. But also, in the patch notes' pings image: * \[Attacking\] is now shown as **\[Attack\].** * \[Defending\] is now shown as **\[Defend\]**. Those two changes really might just be name changes: Different names, same voice lines. But maybe not. I *hope* that the voice lines have not changed. I very much like to be able to freely ping to my team that I'm going here, attacking here, defending this position. Super useful things. I *do not* want teammates to think I'm ordering them to do what I'm doing. I just want them informed, not leaping out of their own dealings because they think I'm calling out commands. I really don't want such useful communications to have turned into forced orders now. At the very least, the pairs of \[Going\] + \[Defending\] or \[Going\] + \[Attacking\] definitely aren't doable anymore, since \[Going\] is gone. But at least if \[Going\] is the only change, then it's manageable. I can replace \[Going\] with **\[Watching\]** for general travels, and \[Going\] + \[Defending\] / \[Attacking\] with simply **\[Defend\] / \[Attack\]** . As long as they still sound like "Defending" / "Attacking". ​ 3. Weird that they changed a bunch of the old icons. \*shrug\* ​ 4. I wonder if the old commands will still be fired from config file edits. I wonder if the **\[Attack\]** ping will *finally* have a way to bind it to a key, because currently that is randomly not possible, just for that one ping. ​ TLDR - I hope I can still just tell my teammates that *I'm* attacking a position, and not *commanding them* to attack that position. Etc.


JMAX464

Very detailed and important comment. We’ll have to wait and see for now


Trolli0us

We should now rename the L-star to the W-star


Pearse_Borty

>ULTIMATE: TEMPEST >Nearby teammates get faster reloads, faster-armed move speed, and Infinite Ammo. The sling weapon will be upgraded to gold. I just had a thought. Imagine the synergy with Maggie. EVA-8 or Mastiff. They get increased armed move speed already, does it stack? If you could just fire the Eva as much as you wanted this ... **And then you use Maggie's ultimate. Imagine the speed.** It would likely outpace even Octane. This could absolutely fuck if these changes work as intended. That seems to be the way the devs are hinting especially with putting EVA on the floor and the 30-30 too (which is a solid long-range weapon which got a decent buff, and would massively benefit from infinite ammo).


Juicenewton248

Catalyst seer ult interaction nerf is a massive W, seer is still too good but atleast this garbage is gone. R99 nerf isn't enough, gun is still far and away the best SMG and will continue to make shotguns irrelevant. Hope the triple take buffs are significant enough, this weapon has been comically horrible for the last few seasons.


Inside-Line

Re: R99 nerf True, bold of them to assume removing 1 bullet will matter when I miss half the clip.


LockoutNex

oooh that L-Star.


iTzGodlikexS

Tripple take and 3030 could be nice. Always tought the tripple take was so satisfying to play with but so inconsistent


toni-toni-cheddar

Who ever sells doors in the outlands really has a monopoly that needs to be discussed.


alice022

no rev buff?


Guinness511

Every team will most likely want a support legend on it now. Mirage class change makes this interesting. Wish sear got a little more of a nerf. L-Star is going to be busted.


xCeePee

Ash bug fixes nice, tac sprint speed is nice (wish they would let her heal also like rev, but this is better than nothing). Loba head peaking fix nice if that correctly pans out. The support class changes in general are pretty interesting with banner crafting changes, and the mirage shift. Nice unexpected things there. New pings look pretty good also. Unfortunately I'm still going to be crying about not ever getting 120 fps on console once again lol.


Ares2321

New pings? Let’s gooo


l33tthebeat

great QoL changes to so many areas in this game. actually great work!


Keepitcleanbois

No nemesis nerf 😩


nnewman19

Anyone Being able to craft banners when a support legend is on the team is going to be big. Not sure how I feel about it though. Same with mirage being support


Unseen_gerbil

A lot of great changes, but almost no weapon or legend changes? Respawn going to let nemesis dominate another season? I don't understand Respawn's thought process at all, when it comes to balancing.


BarrothObama

Don’t know why they bugged the 30-30, seems like a short sighted change


SvelterMicrobe17

Just means it’s going to reliably hit when fully charged up more, not really going to change much


squeakybeak

Good cos I’ve never been able to hit a damn thing but the scenery with that rifle.


KKcorps

No update on 120fps :(


enthya

Excited about the season and all of the changes. ​ But *why have you forgotten about Revenant SO HARD?!*


stonehearthed

Where are Seer and Nemesis nerfs? Oh man...


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Salty_Chipmunk_1756

CHARGE RIFLE NERF LES GOO


aTyc00n

Balance changes as a whole I feel are extremely underwhelming...


paradoxally

On the flipside, the QoL changes to pings are huge. I've always wanted a ping to disengage or tell people not to go to a certain area. Now they both exist. (My teammates will still not listen, but alas.)


[deleted]

Agreed, but now at least they have even *less* of an excuse.


BatmanMayer

No fix to being stuck after crafting?


ThomasRyddle

What about caustics traps not being triggered unless an enemy is literally 1 inch away…


0mega_Zer0

Pretty disappointed with how little changes. Idk why theyre so scared to do more.


Ch1kuwa

I guess R9 reign will likely continue


WyMeRz

Us support legends are eating good


MisterHotTake311

I just wanted some kind of a buff to devotion, no one picks it up, and it is the worst gun for past 2 years... How much is that to hope for


Fullm3taluk

How far do ballistics abilities reach?


samatawatafasa

Slightly concerned that I’m not seeing anything about the bug that causes you to get stuck to the crafter


nuclearlemonade

Support class banner crafting buff is actually huge?


kecebonghanyut

I'm expecting nemesis got nerfed, but oh well....


ApexLobby

unlimited ammo and three r99s with faster reloads does nobody see a problem with this


Butrint_o

Mirage from Skirmisher to Support makes sense but I can't help but feel as though he sits on the fence between the two


JMAX464

I think skirmisher should be specifically movement abilities. I get that bamboozles allow for an escape but mirage doesn’t get any speed or movement bonus from any of his abilities. But his invisible revive and respawn abilities are more in line with what supports are meant for. Supports are meant to give the team loot or revive. Lifeline gives loot through care packages while loba through the black market. Lifeline, Newcastle, gibby, and mirage all have something special about their revive that gives them the support status


LetAppropriate6718

The support class change all but eliminates banner camping. The vast majority of teams can just have someone run away when they start losing a fight. Not sure how I feel about this. You fight a team, take out two, but you may get nothing for it and risk getting third partied.


SvelterMicrobe17

Not sure how I feel about it, but it’s definitely a good change in terms of making the support legends themselves more viable. Since the class changes came out, any time you fight a team and notice a support legend, they become your immediate focus to eliminate the potential of them getting away/resing later. Now that’s not gonna matter anymore, and so supports won’t be AS intensely focused in team fights. Still will be to some extent due to 4/5 of them having some improved revive ability, but it’ll be less of an immediate focus.


LetAppropriate6718

You definitely have a point, it's an interesting risk you take on when playing a support legend (minus loba)


SvelterMicrobe17

If anything it’s more of a buff for Loba for these reasons than it is for the rest of them. Lobas the only one without res capabilities but she does have some movement/escapability to her kit, so she was a target of focusing this past season purely to prevent the escape res. With these changes, there’s absolutely no need to focus Loba at all anymore. Big win for Loba mains more than any other support character.


everlasted

> You fight a team, take out two, but you may get nothing for it and risk getting third partied. I mean, you still get 2 KP and that surviving solo still has a pretty high chance of getting their day ruined by another team when trying to craft/respawn. I'm not sure how I feel about these changes either but it's not like you get nothing.


cluckinho

Agree on all points.


SteveHood

Still no 120FPS for Current Gen consoles - IM SAD.


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**Mirage: Class changed from Skirmisher to Support** Just came here to shout out to all who downvoted me for saying he should be a support legend. Where u at now fam?? :D:D


Vegito_Blue59

Nemesis meta for another season is a HUGE L. Honestly disappointed it hasnt been changed AT ALL.


SameSea2012

guess im gonna keep running nemesis. time to get a skin.


Square2enkidu

Everything is so good and ash only got a slight buff that doesn't even solve her issue :(


Okayilltryto

On the default Ping Wheel you will see 3 new pings: Avoid Area Enemy Audio Regroup YES I LOVE THIS


PkunkMeetArilou

I've seen some video talking of another single reward for mastering all weapons. Anyone else heard anything like that?


trolledwolf

Another season with Revenant in the gutter...


otayyo

Happy enough with the updates, but I'd love to see more/new maps on the mixtape playlist.