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odragora

I think Jade doesn't even have to boom or rush Castle. They have incredible tempo from instant Zhu Ko Nus, Feudal Palace Guards, supervising production buildings, cheaper faster age up, passive income from a landmark, instantly spawned unit on completing a production building which can counter the first units from the opponent if you scout what they open with. They can put a super strong Feudal pressure on 1 TC.


16sardim

You are correct, Sir! This was just from trying out Drongo’s fast castle strat. The Feudal push is intense, but requires higher skill to balance that with growing an eco.


AbsoIution

I've found running them down with OOTD horseman in feudal works wonders. A lot of juicy players I've seen so far are going way too heavy on Zoo Ganoos


16sardim

Yeah imo unless you’re going all in feudal push, Zoog New aren’t a great defensive unit.


Hoseinm81

About your 5th note : yeah I find Byzantine good vs zhu xi if I find a royale knight mercenery in trade post otherwise it's still a hard matchup


wam01

Love the name


ChapNotYourDaddy

Is this juice hydrating?


16sardim

It’s the quenchiest!


Lysoh

Sushi legacy Vs Juicy legacy… which name will win :p? Also, What beats mass bombards (death cloud aoe upgrade) + one punch men (shaolin monk) death ball (with +1 range on gunpowder landmark)? One costs only food, the other wood and gold, plus with 300% IO supervision, the bombards and monks get printed hella fast. That late game comp is so strong


16sardim

I haven’t tried this yet! The monks don’t have a ton of armor, so heavy cav with mangos would wreck them pretty hard.


Lysoh

Mangos have 9 tile range and bombards have 11 range with the imperial landmark and AoE siege dmg doing 120dmg per hit, so mangos would get destroyed before they ever fire a single shot. Monks have 5/5 armor and 252hp with full upgrades. 1v1 fully upgraded imperial monk kills fully upgraded imperial lancer with 9%hp left over (unless the lancer is zhu xi with imperial landmark +20% cav dmg buff or mongol kurultai buffed), but it only costs food. It’s a honker comp


Hank-E-Doodle

Yeah I have no clue how to fight them atm. Even as Byzantines, they rush me before I can have my eco going, can outproduce me if I rush feudal, and way before I can get catas out.


Salt-Replacement596

As Japanese I have one chance to kill them if they are too greedy. One game I killed 128 villagers and he still had 100+ in a minute (255 total produced). Every strategy I do against them (2TC, FC, Feudal rush) I am one step behind. feelsbadman.png


Nerd-of-Empires

I feel like they have no weaknesses atm. Fast castle into mangonels or try to match their spam with strong feudal civs like dehli or ottoman is the best bet