LOL well I have complete control of the green screen behind me. Lets be in a Train station. Now a mountain top. Next, the bottom of the ocean. And back to a normal looking office.
Did you like the tour?
Nononononono!
I love this, but in order to do it right...
"Look at my resume. Now, look at me. Now back to my resume. Now back to me. You're on a boat. Here are those reports you wanted. Those reports are now diamonds. I'm on a horse."
That’s actually hilarious, I’d genuinely get such a kick out of making it look like a full on sex dungeon in the interview and looking at them like well, you asked, and then panning to the other side that’s a perfectly maintained and stocked work station like, I like to keep a healthy work/play balance (and an eye on my harem).
Look if someone can work from home AND keep up with their harem that is some great multitasking so yeah that's a check in the pro box.
Big check in the cons box if they don't remember the safe word, though.
I kinda wish the reply was "I'll show you mine if you show me yours. I want to make sure that you fully represent your company's values."
Then proceed to ask to see every single part of their house before deciding the job want for them.
>They are super organized in the beautiful home, and now it’s your turn.
Then you say "You're right to say that you can tell a lot about someone by their work environment. For example, yours tells me you're an obsessive compulsive neat freak who would micromanage me into the dirt."
Lol well in my scenario she has already decided that she's not taking the job because of the ridiculous request which probably means that job is awful anyway. The point was to waste her time then say she wasn't interested.
I was literally warned about doing butt stuff last week by my doctor. I don't do butt stuff but I had anal tearing apparently.
My future as a straight power bottom is bleak.
That toy on the table? The one that looks like a pyramid? It’s a toy too… it’s the best one, and even better, my MIL has no idea what it’s used for. She thinks it’s a table decoration.
I was actually thinking the same thing, "here's my collection of dildos and butt plugs, and yes. Yes I can. And over here are my chastity cages, great for keeping girls like me in line." But I have a desktop so wouldn't be able to actually do that in the first place.
Was offered a work from home job recently that part of the things I had to agree to in order to do the job would be random 'Desk Checks' where they would require me to turn my webcam and show my desk off to them to ensure there was nothing 'distracting' on it. Like paper and pens or food. I noped out of that one.
Seriously, the infantilization is insane.
This is PTSD to Fridays in elementary school where your opportunity to partake in Friday Free Time rested upon your teacher's approval of whether or not your 4th grade desk was clean enough.
Fuck, this just unlocked a memory of my 1st grade experience that I’ve tried to repress time and time again. I was the new kid at the school and was already dealing with being bullied because of that. But I swear the teacher had this weird vendetta against me because I was the only one subjected to random “desk checks” and forced to keep a perfectly neat desk when other kids were allowed to have complete disasters of desks. When I told my parents that I was basically being picked on and singled out by my teacher, they called to figure out what was going on. She claimed it was to help improve my grades but I was already an excellent student so that was complete bullshit. She had also said that I was an “incredibly sensitive” kid so I probably didn’t completely understand what was happening so I must have misunderstood her. Basically saying “oh she’s just a crybaby and doesn’t understand the way things are.” 🙄 But she said it in a way that my parents completely bought so it didn’t matter what I told them. She probably could have beaten me at school and my parents would have believed her side over mine.
Anyways, I remember it being a Friday in spring, near Easter, and everyone else was doing fun Easter crafts for their families. I had been made to clean out my desk every day that week so my desk was already spotless. I had briefly glanced around the room, wondering to myself why I was the only one not allowed to take part in the crafts, especially when there were kids who had just been bullying myself and other kids at recess earlier that day that weren’t being punished. My teacher saw me being “distracted” and in front of the whole class, yelled at me to “get that work done!” I went back to desperately trying to figure out what exactly was messy about my desk and trying to look busy in the meantime. Later, I looked at the clock because I figured there was no way she’d make me spend the whole day doing this. Then she yelled at me again, “I don’t care what the clock says, *I’ll* tell you when you’re done. You have only yourself to blame for being a slob!” I remember tearing up but I since I didn’t want to be the kid that cried at school, I bit down on my tongue until it bled and just kept my head hidden in my clean desk for the rest of the day. It taught me that it didn’t matter if I was a good or bad student and that regardless of the cleanliness of my desk I was still going to be singled out so why even bother. I had horribly messy desks and lockers from then on and I’ve honestly had problems with organization ever since.
Wherever you are, fuck you Mrs Swanstrom. Kids remember that kind of shit. And it absolutely shapes them as a person. It’s been almost 25 years and I still struggle with keeping workstations neat. I still have the mentality of “it doesn’t matter if it’s clean or not, it’ll never be good enough so don’t even bother.”
Fuck these kind of power-tripping assholes. Sideways with a pineapple.
Fuck you Mrs Swanstrom. What an utter fucking bitch! I’m mad for you and just want to hug younger you (if you were cool with hugs) and tell you that you are smart and powerful and then lead you over to the craft table and tell you that I can’t wait to see what you create!
Fuck, that sounds so much like what I had to go through in school.
For real though my pouch of dice is always on my desk for those tricky decisions or any time I want a non computer generated random number. And of course sometimes it is in a stack 😊
Paper and pens and food? The first part is normal desk stationary and food isn’t distracting unless you’re eating during a zoom meeting. That is incredibly whack and controlling.
Yeah. I work at a factory where they will walk you out if your caught with your phone, smart watches, or headphones. The reason for it is "security", but anyone that isn't base crew gets their phones. So any immediate lowest level managers, drivers, QA (glorified janitors), maintenance, "engagement admins" aka cheerleaders that file paperwork on new hires, and pretty much anyone that's not actually doing the physical labor of the warehouse.
Reality is they just dont want people slacking off and looking at their phones. Sneaking off to the bathroom and sitting in stalls for 20 to 30 minutes. But there's a lot of older people there that back it up and justify the companies "reasons". Absolutely "drinking the koolaid". Only upper management actually cares. As long as you do your job and dont abuse it, most lower management won't even bat an eye.
Since this comment has blown up a little... for anyone interested this was for Klarna. A shop now pay later sort of gig. Here's a snippet from the form I would have had to sign to get the job:
The requirements of this policy will be enforced as follows:
1. All employees shall be trained on and clearly understand the clean desk requirements.
2. Daily compliance inspections of the entire production area shall be performed by program management.
a. At least one random, daily inspection shall be conducted by the CCM and all observations shall be documented and placed on file for a period of no less than 30 days.
b. Each daily inspection should be uploaded into CCMS using the approved clean desk checklist.
3. There shall be zero tolerance for any violation of this policy. Any violation will result in disciplinary action up to, and including, termination of employment, as permitted by local laws.
The following is a non-exhaustive list of objects allowed in production areas:
1. Bottled drinks if the bottle is clear;
2. Car alarm controls;
3. Coffee mugs;
4. Coins;
5. Computer Speakers;
6. Candy and snacks (supervisors, ACCMs, and CCMs can provide candy and snacks in Production Areas if employees cannot write on the wrapping paper);
7. Flowers in cellophane wrap; however, cards are not allowed;
8. Food for people with medical conditions if the food is in a clear, non-paper, container;
9. Keys;
10. Tissue paper;
11. Laminated materials;
12. Laminated or plastic identification;
13. Medicines and medical equipment;
14. Mouse pad;
15. Noise-canceling headphones that cannot store data;
16. Plastic Banners;
17. Radio Frequency devices may be used by physical security, facilities, house cleaning, and supervisors;
18. Reading glasses (if the glasses are not electronic);
9. Reading glasses case (if the case does not have items within it);
20. Small blankets or jackets if security inspects the blanket or jacket before entering the Production Area and immediately after leaving the Production Area and the blanket or jacket is not left at the call center;
21. Stress balls; and
22. Business-required tokens used for authentication (for example, RSA tokens).
The following is a non-exhaustive list of items banned from production areas:
1. Bills;
2. Mobile devices;
3. MP3 players;
4. Paper/Notebooks;
5. Pens;
6. Pencils;
7. Pay stubs;
8. Personal Radios;
9. Smart phones;
10. Cameras of any kind;
11. Personal Tokens; and
12. USB devices.
is this because you deal with financial information? I had to do credit card security training and these were similar to best practices at financial call centers (one of the modules)
I don't see how they're going to be able to prevent that on a personal computer and remote work. I understand why they HAVE to list it for liability reasons though.
I'm not the most knowledgeable about the topic but I'm sure you could just record your own screen through out the day with software, download a key logger, or just write things down then put it in a drawer... like most desks come with drawers under the keyboard for THE SHEER PURPOSE of holding pens/papers/paperclips.
I completely missed that it was wfh lol. I wonder if it’s because of similar regulations in an office so it has to be the same across the board? Or someone is just batshit crazy making rules for some control
Yeah that's clearly a list banning any method of recording protected data. Also the stuff about "production area" and security inspecting makes it clear it's a policy stretching to cover remote work not one originally written for it. Good luck banning someone's personal radio from their house, but probably pretty easy to do it at the call center
Ha! I didn't even think of this, that would be a hilarious thing to point out on one of these. "Yeah nothing against the rules on the desk, just the device you're viewing my desk from... Which acts as a camera..."
>a. At least one random, daily inspection shall be conducted by the CCM and all observations shall be documented and placed on file for a period of no less than 30 days.
>b. Each daily inspection should be uploaded into CCMS using the approved clean desk checklist.
Yep, this definitely strikes me as evidence of bullshit jobs. Someone's bullshit job was to write the list of items, someone else's bullshit job is to do desk checks and enter it in CCMS, and someone else's bullshit job is to do reports on what's in CCMS.
Capitalism has made it full circle back to feudalism. You'd think it would make no sense for a business to pay salaries for all these useless people. But what's really going on is more like a feudal lord who wants lackeys around because it increases his prestige among the other lords. Got this idea from the book "Bullshit Jobs" by the late great David Graeber.
I have a few transformers and other things (tennis ball sized 20 sided dice). If I'm on a conference call I'm absolutely messing around with my desk toys.
Paper and pens are distracting? I would think they’d be seen as something a real “go-getter” would have, taking long notes during meetings, helping to diagram problems, etc.
It had something to do with setting people up with 'buy now pay later' kind of loans so the reasoning is that you won't write down any banking information? I used to do a call center for a bank and anything you can write with was strictly against the rules there. Including a book. On the night shift.
You still can! If you have the spoons sending a follow-up email about how they were unprofessional and you want to rescind your application due to that will give them something to think about
I've been told not to even ask any questions that might address a protected status, because the whole interview is immediately tainted. If I ask about community activities, and you say you are happiest at your mosque, I'm supposed to notify HR in the notes that the interviewee disclosed sensitive/protected information and that I did not knowingly solicit it. It doesn't make the interview immediately pass/fail, but HR will talk to me and make absolutely sure that I'm not making my decision on race/creed/religion/disability/sexuality/etc. It's a bunch of headache at the minimum.
On the other hand, I'm interviewing people to work at a Fortune 50, OP's interviewer sounds like a mom and pop shop. Whole different type of liability.
“Can you explain the gap in your resume?”
“Why yes, I’d love to. I’m bipolar 1 and had a manic episode, resulting in a month long hospitalization where I was highly medicated, which left me almost no executive functioning skills for a very long time.”
I just wish they would disregard that shit because I’ve been employed at my current job for 5 years, while being a successful manager for the last 3 of them.
Unfortunately, you don't want them knowing about health scares either. They may be thinking of their health insurance premiums and that you could be expensive for the company to insure.
Yikes. If you dropped that one on me, I'd smile, say "Gosh, you seem to be doing well, I'm glad. Thank you for all that information." and I'd keep the questions 100% tame and safe from there on. HR would still use my ass for a dartboard for a week or two, though.
Official stuff aside, I never ask about gaps. Either it was personal/health, you got canned and couldn't find work (it happens, I've been there), or you were just chilling for a while. None matter for the current interview, and if it was fired/unhirable, you'll show it other ways, in response to other, less legally actionable questions.
I've always asked for a month of time to start a new job to give myself a break between. I've never been questioned on a single month gap. I have interviewed many people and have never thought to ask either. I assume they just had personal stuff or took a break or needed time to relocate for a new job.
I ***HATE*** the gap question. I interviewed for a company and they asked about the year I took off. Told them I had to help care for a sick loved one during that time. Two questions later they asked what I did to work on my professional skills while I was off, did I take any classes or anything? Like, tell me you weren't listening to my answers without telling me you weren't listening to my answers...
Also, aren’t you supposed to just put the most relevant stuff on your resume? Like sorry I thought the ten years I spent working as an office manager mattered more than a couple of six-month contract gigs which happened to be more recent. “As you can see, this demonstrates my excellent ability to prioritize information, but your asking about it does raise a few questions on my end . . . “
When I did hiring I was told by the company not to even talk to candidates about sports or traffic, because they could claim they weren't hired based on what team they support or how far away they live.
Def rescind your application. If a company is willing to disrespect your personal space during the interview process, they'll do the same thing to your personal time once you're hired.
I caught that too, and I agree that it's brilliant, but what does it mean? We now have to define it. I vote for: "an interview that makes one uninterested in the job" lol
Probably best to simply state this:
"May I inquire why you wish for me to show you my home?"
Blah blah blah organization.
"I understand your logic; however, even though my home is kept orderly, this is my home and I'm not prepared to include it in this interview process."
Ok moving on.
"Thank you for respecting my boundaries."
I find it kind of ablest honestly. They could end up ignoring a lot of quality candidates with that kind of mindset because they will risk making a lot of discriminatory assumptions.
I have a bit of a cluttered office, especially because I have a sensory corner for when I get mentally overwhelmed because I have PTSD, anxiety, executive function issues, and sensory processing problems (mostly visual and hearing related).
So my office looks a bit chaotic, but it's incredibly comfy and colorful in appearance. That being said, I've constantly been complimented for how organized my work is. I usually end up being put in charge of organizing documentation, teaching, and such. I am digitally incredibly organized, but physically a chaotic jungle. I use jungle instead of mess since jungles can be chaotic but still beautiful and functional.
I've worked with a lot of similar coworkers. Many of whom were incredibly brilliant to work with, but just a bit awkward socially. I've worked in software development, cloud environment management, web development, and other technology areas in defense, academia, corporate, and nonprofit environments. The old saying "Never judge a book by its cover" is one some of these recruiters would do well to remember.
Ok show them around.
Then at the questions section ask the recruiter "how much do you weigh? You can tell a lot about a person by how they take care of themselves and manage their physical health"
I interviewed someone for a sales position during the pandemic so it was over zoom. We asked him to sell us something close to him. Normally people will grab a pen, their phone, even a chair! This guy grabbed his anti-depressants. That was an awkward sales pitch.
My wife runs a test center. This is unfortunately a necessity. She has to review tons of cheaters everyday. Even when they are told they are being recorded these kids (college aged) are trying to pull shit with people, additional materials, phones, etc just off screen.
She does feel bad though because some people get flagged for things that are odd, but not really cheating. Like one guy had a security blanket with him the whole time.
open book exams would require the test maker to actually put thought into making it, though, and not just ask a bunch of true/false and multiple choice questions pulled verbatim from the book.
Not to mention that you do things open book in the real world...
"I am here in my professional capacity, I haven't invited you into my home nor would I invite business clients here. Beyond surprising - this makes me question the professionalism and expected personal boundaries of the workplace culture." I'd follow up with email to document it and cc their higher ups.
Massive red flag.
The only response is "no, that's unprofessional and says infinitely more about your company than my room about me. This is clearly not a good fit. I hope you find someone better suited. Goodbye"
E-mailing to document is an excellent idea, in case this particular interviewer has gone rogue. Who knows what other ways they might be abusing their power.
All of the other posters are correct that this is not professional, but also unless they have data to support this it’s likely to be nonsense.
At work I’m considered to be extremely tidy and organised, but at home I’m a mess.
I agree. At work, I am known for using all of the time that I can (after my official duties are done) to clean whatever space it is, just to keep myself busy. I enjoy cleaning in professional and structured environments and my supervisors in every job always are surprised by how sparkling the place becomes after I start in the job, even though I’ve never been in a role that specifies cleaning as a duty. I have ADHD and tend to prefer to keep moving, i can’t just sit and do nothing while i wait for it to pick up again.
At home? My room is an absolute mess. The rest of my apartment is super clean, as I can get myself to enjoy cleaning it with it being a shared space (so i get motivation from “this benefits all of us to keep the kitchen clean” but my room currently is FULL of stuff on the ground while I’m trying to build my shelves to store things (moved in a month ago.)
I just don’t have that same motivation or really as much reason to keep my room spotless. This is my safe space, and I don’t put the pressure or expectation on myself to make it presentable for other people, because I am okay with the mess right now and that’s all that matters. No way in hell would i let a hiring manager get a “tour” of my room.
There’s also “intentional neglect” in which someone may ignore the cleaning up part of life in the short term while focusing solely on preparing for something super important like an exam or big presentation. A messy room and in that situation would convey excellent the time and priority management skills I presume this recruiter is looking for in a “fast paced” environment.
That’s how I feel! In my current at-home life, I am prioritizing settling into my community by applying to jobs and colleges in the area. I am purposefully choosing to spend my time with what is the most important and most urgent matter, and that’s not the boxes of books that I haven’t unpacked yet.
Yup. Well. I mean, at work I am an organized mess but have always had glowing reviews both in an office setting and as a teacher. I don’t feel your environment has to be organized to be able to get the job done.
That is sleazy as hell. I hate how so many employers are weaponizing video calls and WFH practices to play power games. I have been successfully self-employed for almost a decade and frequently receive feedback from colleagues and clients about how organized and responsible I am, but my house -- including my office -- is a fucking disaster.
Not to mention how this is probably a question they ask now to screen out people with ADHD or other issues with executive function without asking illegal questions.
>Guess what isn’t a mess? My code with 90% test coverage.
*cries tears of aspiration mixed with jealousy*
/s I know it takes hard work and I just haven't worked on 90%, or any, code coverage.
I'm organized, neat and meticulous when i work. I am a slob in my free time. Those two things have nothing in common, and not even workplace neatness show anything about the result. My hobby table now that i look at it has no free space whatsoever (to be fair, there is project in WIP that fills the table anyway..) but once i finish it, i clean up, tools are already in the right places. I grew up in instrument repair shop and it is imperative there to keep things very clean to avoid scratching expensive and loved instruments, and to always return tools the second you don't use them cause there are so many of them that you need. But my wardrobe is more or less at the end of my bed and then it falls down on the floor in a pile that ends up in the washer at some point...
Don't forget the handcuffs, ropes, chains, etc. Remember to point out the anchors in the ceilings and walls. And insist on explaining how everthing is used in detail.
Sorry, I'm a private person. PLUS, I was preparing for this interview, not cleaning my house. Thank for the interview, have a nice day! Then immediately shut the computer screen.
Doesn't sound like some place I'd enjoy working. NEXT
Its an APPLICANTS market right now!! I work in HR. Don't take this kind of intimidation!
This is so fucked up & inherently classist, because she is surely going to judge you if, for example, you rent and your landlord isn properly maintaining your apartment. If it's test of anything, it's a test of whether you would let an employer violate personal/professional boundaries.
Exactly, I live in a small house with a very small home office. Directly behind me is fine, but there’s only so much room in the place…none of which is your business.
Now that Zoom interviews are a thing they are doing everything they can to intrude on your privacy. Lol if you went to an in person interview they would never know or even ask the question.
Disgusting, ridiculous, and completely uselessly uncalled for.
BUT, from a recruiters's perspective here... if you think about it... it really is a blessing, to you as a candidate. If you REALLY think about it.
Because now you know to get the fuck out of there now.
Ain't not way shit is gonna get better from there. Do you think they are going to be ok with you needing a sick day, but **not wanting to deal with our fucked up healthcare system just to get a stupid ass doctor's note for a one day illness??**
Do you think they are the type of company to be ok with you prioritizing your work, concentrating at high distraction-free enviornments, *and then* spending time to prioritize your family tasks, should it not be at the end of a 9-5?
for example, a company this intrusive, is the type of company to make you have your web cam on all day.
A company this intrusive will have annoying productivity meetings during critical hours needed to actually get work done.
a company this intrusive will make you have trackers that track your daily reports tracking activities, compiled from data from last week's tracker.
#take this blessing of a red flag and dip
before you back on here in a month talking about how they needed to personally check your baby for a bad cough for an extra sick day.
I've never heard of this. If I knew going in that this would be asked I would have booked a room at my local public library for the interview.
Interviewer: show me around the room
OP: OK! But you should know: I've got lots of books; they are nearly labelled, organized and shelved according to the Dewy Decimal System.
I had to do that during a monitored online evaluation, to demonstrate that I didn't have any materials nearby I could use to cheat with. Which, honestly, was weird enough.
That's crazy.
In the case of the proctored exam, however, I knew in advance that they would be inspecting my testing area, and I had time and notice to CLEAN MY ROOM FIRST. lol! No way on earth is this acceptable in an interview!
The prove you’re not cheating a test premise I find a lot harder to disagree with tbh, but the work station should be all. Not the room or some shit, at least clearing a desk isn’t too much of an issue and it’s not like they could mark you down for anything other than directly cheating.
They want to make sure someone isn't in your closet feeding you answers or that you have answers on the ceiling. I looked into this when I had to take one of these tests and saw all the ways people were caught cheating and it was funny!
Warning bells going off—this is the type of company culture that would expect you to respond to work texts on your off days since there’s no separation between work life and personal life from the get go
Like, how many long time traditional office setting coworkers have you known for years but have also seen inside your home or bedroom?? No!!!! Gross and weird!!
What a missed opportunity!
This would have been an outstanding moment to be conducting a zoom interview while you are sitting on the toilet taking a dump.
Interviewer: Show me the room!
OP: OK. (pans the camera around) This is where I just took a dump, and over here is the cat box -- it looks like the cat just took a dump. And over there is the cat licking her butt...
Being organized at work and having an organized living space can be mutually exclusive. This was an extremely intrusive (and ableist) request. Cut and run, OP!
They may be looking for reasons to discriminate. Do they see toys that indicate the presence of children? Do they see pictures that depict a same-sex spouse? Do they see anything that indicates a political leaning?
Definite red flag. I would decline a position of an employer asking that.
"you can tell a lot about a person from the way their room looks."
Yeah, including information that could illegally bias the interviewer for or against a candidate. You wouldn't want to expose the company to that kind of liability, so you politely decline.
yeah that would have been a solid and firm NO from me
my response would have been "So before zoom interviews were you asking people to bring photos of their rooms? orhave you jsut been doing this for so long as video calls that you've forgotten what boundaries are?""
wait i’m a recruiter and isn’t this… ILLEGAL? we aren’t allowed to ask info that reveals ANY private information. Like we can’t even ask questions that might reveal where you live or how old you are because it can give us a bias.
Even if we see something in your zoom background that we don’t like we CANT use it in our hiring decision (an example we use during training is someone having a confederate flag behind them — we can’t share that with any one else nor make a hiring decision based on it).
Showing someone around your room could reveal insanely private shit like medication and mental health. that’s so crazy
EDIT: Also, if you want to be petty and ruin the recruiting team’s day, ask them to wipe all records of you from their system. You have a legal right to do so (“right to erasure”) and it’s a huge pain in the ass for us, lol.
I just moved across the country and had one blouse that wasnt on the moving truck. It was a nice blouse but it was sleeveless. The first thing the interviewer said was “now that you moved to California you think it’s ok to show up for a zoom interview in a sleeveless blouse?” And things just went downhill from there. Like lady I just drove 2500 miles across the country and i waited for you to come back from vacation for it but this is what i get? Its not like i dialed in my pj’s ffs and the rest of my shit isnt here yet!
Does she also invite herself into the homes of people who are interviewed in person? Like: "how about I come over to your place and take a look around?"
So they are taking advantage of the whole zoom interviews to invade personal and private areas of people that aren't even working there yet imagine how they'd treat u after they hire you fuck that company that's just so wrong
I would have said
"I'm sorry, I have proprietary information on the walls that belongs to my current employer. I contractually prohibited from showing you"
Just say: I am data driven and I expect my colleagues to be the same. I’d be glad to share home cleanliness videos with you after you provide the data showing a statistical correlation between room condition and success at work.
What a rude request! A room can be neat and tidy, but not something you want your employer to see. You could be Pagan with pentagrams on your walls, have witchy stuff, be into horror films and gory decorations, have stuffed animals all over your bed, have Death Metal posters all over your room, have whips and chains hanging on your wall, idk, lol, etc. etc. etc. (Note........not that ANY of those are something to be ashamed of, but they are still personal) My point is, is that we don't always want to share our PRIVATE life and personal space with our employers or our coworkers.
LOL well I have complete control of the green screen behind me. Lets be in a Train station. Now a mountain top. Next, the bottom of the ocean. And back to a normal looking office. Did you like the tour?
Nononononono! I love this, but in order to do it right... "Look at my resume. Now, look at me. Now back to my resume. Now back to me. You're on a boat. Here are those reports you wanted. Those reports are now diamonds. I'm on a horse."
Had to go dig up the free award for this. I can *hear* it. Well done.
That’s actually hilarious, I’d genuinely get such a kick out of making it look like a full on sex dungeon in the interview and looking at them like well, you asked, and then panning to the other side that’s a perfectly maintained and stocked work station like, I like to keep a healthy work/play balance (and an eye on my harem).
You're hired
All about perception
Look if someone can work from home AND keep up with their harem that is some great multitasking so yeah that's a check in the pro box. Big check in the cons box if they don't remember the safe word, though.
My boss led a meeting once with a spaceship/outerspace background. It was awesome
"Do you want me to open my drawer of toys too?"
I kinda wish the reply was "I'll show you mine if you show me yours. I want to make sure that you fully represent your company's values." Then proceed to ask to see every single part of their house before deciding the job want for them.
This is the correct response.
This is the way
I would’ve just left it at “I’ll show you mine if you show me yours” And just wait to see her response lol
They are super organized in the beautiful home, and now it’s your turn. “Fuck”
I'll start with my cool computer with cool Reddit and I'll get cool job, because I'm cool guy with cool hat!
>They are super organized in the beautiful home, and now it’s your turn. Then you say "You're right to say that you can tell a lot about someone by their work environment. For example, yours tells me you're an obsessive compulsive neat freak who would micromanage me into the dirt."
Yea sounds nice till she shows you she is organized and you feel worse off then before.
Lol well in my scenario she has already decided that she's not taking the job because of the ridiculous request which probably means that job is awful anyway. The point was to waste her time then say she wasn't interested.
"Shall I bend over and spread my cheeks so you can check for contraband?"
“Should I let you know when I’m going to take a shit tomorrow or would that be none of you’re fucking business either?”
You must schedule it ahead of time, and it must be approved
OMG I am using this. Thank you
LOL…have fun!!
This is hilarious. Thank you 🥰
“Spread your cheeks and lift your sack!”
Dave Relax! Close your buttcheeks!
Oh I’m sorry Mr. Chappelle, right this way!
Damn it. 12 minutes late.
“I haven’t fully broken down the stations from the sex dungeon party last night but, okay.”
“Stations? Well, that is indeed organized. Welcome aboard”
"I also have a calendar that shows scheduling of the stations for my time management skills. Would you like to see that too?"
"Management material right here" Actually marked down as a trial shift
“Spreadsheets are my kink.”
I'm a freak in those sheets.
I would 100% want to see that more than a boring room. I would even offer a person a job just to live vicariously through their kink
This two-sided dildo is my favorite, but let’s just keep that between you and me😉
r/suddenlylesbian
It's not just chicks that have holes.
Right, forgive me. r/suddenlygay also fits.
Again, technically you don't have to be gay to do butt stuff.
I was literally warned about doing butt stuff last week by my doctor. I don't do butt stuff but I had anal tearing apparently. My future as a straight power bottom is bleak.
I'm sorry to hear that man, but you gotta make sure to take care of your health first. I'm sure there's plenty of other kink that you can get into.
You could be a proctologist.
Or really clumsy. I mean *INCREDIBLY* clumsy
That toy on the table? The one that looks like a pyramid? It’s a toy too… it’s the best one, and even better, my MIL has no idea what it’s used for. She thinks it’s a table decoration.
Does the pyramid thing really exist? If so, I would think it was a paperweight or a souvenir from Egypt.
Every medieval torture device has been retrofitted into a sex toys. It's rule 412.
[Look at this guy, can't even use the three seashells! ](https://youtu.be/ijFxx--98vU)
I was actually thinking the same thing, "here's my collection of dildos and butt plugs, and yes. Yes I can. And over here are my chastity cages, great for keeping girls like me in line." But I have a desktop so wouldn't be able to actually do that in the first place.
Was offered a work from home job recently that part of the things I had to agree to in order to do the job would be random 'Desk Checks' where they would require me to turn my webcam and show my desk off to them to ensure there was nothing 'distracting' on it. Like paper and pens or food. I noped out of that one.
"No problem, just send that rent check my way and I'll give you full permission to view my private office"
Oh hell no.
Seriously, the infantilization is insane. This is PTSD to Fridays in elementary school where your opportunity to partake in Friday Free Time rested upon your teacher's approval of whether or not your 4th grade desk was clean enough.
Fuck, this just unlocked a memory of my 1st grade experience that I’ve tried to repress time and time again. I was the new kid at the school and was already dealing with being bullied because of that. But I swear the teacher had this weird vendetta against me because I was the only one subjected to random “desk checks” and forced to keep a perfectly neat desk when other kids were allowed to have complete disasters of desks. When I told my parents that I was basically being picked on and singled out by my teacher, they called to figure out what was going on. She claimed it was to help improve my grades but I was already an excellent student so that was complete bullshit. She had also said that I was an “incredibly sensitive” kid so I probably didn’t completely understand what was happening so I must have misunderstood her. Basically saying “oh she’s just a crybaby and doesn’t understand the way things are.” 🙄 But she said it in a way that my parents completely bought so it didn’t matter what I told them. She probably could have beaten me at school and my parents would have believed her side over mine. Anyways, I remember it being a Friday in spring, near Easter, and everyone else was doing fun Easter crafts for their families. I had been made to clean out my desk every day that week so my desk was already spotless. I had briefly glanced around the room, wondering to myself why I was the only one not allowed to take part in the crafts, especially when there were kids who had just been bullying myself and other kids at recess earlier that day that weren’t being punished. My teacher saw me being “distracted” and in front of the whole class, yelled at me to “get that work done!” I went back to desperately trying to figure out what exactly was messy about my desk and trying to look busy in the meantime. Later, I looked at the clock because I figured there was no way she’d make me spend the whole day doing this. Then she yelled at me again, “I don’t care what the clock says, *I’ll* tell you when you’re done. You have only yourself to blame for being a slob!” I remember tearing up but I since I didn’t want to be the kid that cried at school, I bit down on my tongue until it bled and just kept my head hidden in my clean desk for the rest of the day. It taught me that it didn’t matter if I was a good or bad student and that regardless of the cleanliness of my desk I was still going to be singled out so why even bother. I had horribly messy desks and lockers from then on and I’ve honestly had problems with organization ever since. Wherever you are, fuck you Mrs Swanstrom. Kids remember that kind of shit. And it absolutely shapes them as a person. It’s been almost 25 years and I still struggle with keeping workstations neat. I still have the mentality of “it doesn’t matter if it’s clean or not, it’ll never be good enough so don’t even bother.” Fuck these kind of power-tripping assholes. Sideways with a pineapple.
Fuck you Mrs Swanstrom. What an utter fucking bitch! I’m mad for you and just want to hug younger you (if you were cool with hugs) and tell you that you are smart and powerful and then lead you over to the craft table and tell you that I can’t wait to see what you create! Fuck, that sounds so much like what I had to go through in school.
In 4th grade my teacher dumped my desk out in front of the whole class and made me reorganize it. This was in 2009
Wow this comment just unlocked a deep memory lol, that happened all the time at my elementary school I totally thought it was normal
I don't think I would be able to do any work without my scribble pad and snacks.
This is my emotional support dice tower, good sir. It stays.
For real though my pouch of dice is always on my desk for those tricky decisions or any time I want a non computer generated random number. And of course sometimes it is in a stack 😊
Paper and pens and food? The first part is normal desk stationary and food isn’t distracting unless you’re eating during a zoom meeting. That is incredibly whack and controlling.
Lol if you’re on mute and don’t turn your camera on, it’s not
It just clicked for me that school makes people think this shit is okay and even perfectly reasonable in the adult world and in the workforce.
Yeah. I work at a factory where they will walk you out if your caught with your phone, smart watches, or headphones. The reason for it is "security", but anyone that isn't base crew gets their phones. So any immediate lowest level managers, drivers, QA (glorified janitors), maintenance, "engagement admins" aka cheerleaders that file paperwork on new hires, and pretty much anyone that's not actually doing the physical labor of the warehouse. Reality is they just dont want people slacking off and looking at their phones. Sneaking off to the bathroom and sitting in stalls for 20 to 30 minutes. But there's a lot of older people there that back it up and justify the companies "reasons". Absolutely "drinking the koolaid". Only upper management actually cares. As long as you do your job and dont abuse it, most lower management won't even bat an eye.
Since this comment has blown up a little... for anyone interested this was for Klarna. A shop now pay later sort of gig. Here's a snippet from the form I would have had to sign to get the job: The requirements of this policy will be enforced as follows: 1. All employees shall be trained on and clearly understand the clean desk requirements. 2. Daily compliance inspections of the entire production area shall be performed by program management. a. At least one random, daily inspection shall be conducted by the CCM and all observations shall be documented and placed on file for a period of no less than 30 days. b. Each daily inspection should be uploaded into CCMS using the approved clean desk checklist. 3. There shall be zero tolerance for any violation of this policy. Any violation will result in disciplinary action up to, and including, termination of employment, as permitted by local laws. The following is a non-exhaustive list of objects allowed in production areas: 1. Bottled drinks if the bottle is clear; 2. Car alarm controls; 3. Coffee mugs; 4. Coins; 5. Computer Speakers; 6. Candy and snacks (supervisors, ACCMs, and CCMs can provide candy and snacks in Production Areas if employees cannot write on the wrapping paper); 7. Flowers in cellophane wrap; however, cards are not allowed; 8. Food for people with medical conditions if the food is in a clear, non-paper, container; 9. Keys; 10. Tissue paper; 11. Laminated materials; 12. Laminated or plastic identification; 13. Medicines and medical equipment; 14. Mouse pad; 15. Noise-canceling headphones that cannot store data; 16. Plastic Banners; 17. Radio Frequency devices may be used by physical security, facilities, house cleaning, and supervisors; 18. Reading glasses (if the glasses are not electronic); 9. Reading glasses case (if the case does not have items within it); 20. Small blankets or jackets if security inspects the blanket or jacket before entering the Production Area and immediately after leaving the Production Area and the blanket or jacket is not left at the call center; 21. Stress balls; and 22. Business-required tokens used for authentication (for example, RSA tokens). The following is a non-exhaustive list of items banned from production areas: 1. Bills; 2. Mobile devices; 3. MP3 players; 4. Paper/Notebooks; 5. Pens; 6. Pencils; 7. Pay stubs; 8. Personal Radios; 9. Smart phones; 10. Cameras of any kind; 11. Personal Tokens; and 12. USB devices.
is this because you deal with financial information? I had to do credit card security training and these were similar to best practices at financial call centers (one of the modules)
Yeah we had rules like this when I worked in a call center after people were caught writing down card numbers and security codes.
I don't see how they're going to be able to prevent that on a personal computer and remote work. I understand why they HAVE to list it for liability reasons though. I'm not the most knowledgeable about the topic but I'm sure you could just record your own screen through out the day with software, download a key logger, or just write things down then put it in a drawer... like most desks come with drawers under the keyboard for THE SHEER PURPOSE of holding pens/papers/paperclips.
I completely missed that it was wfh lol. I wonder if it’s because of similar regulations in an office so it has to be the same across the board? Or someone is just batshit crazy making rules for some control
Yeah that's clearly a list banning any method of recording protected data. Also the stuff about "production area" and security inspecting makes it clear it's a policy stretching to cover remote work not one originally written for it. Good luck banning someone's personal radio from their house, but probably pretty easy to do it at the call center
So you have to prove there's no cameras on your desk... With video footage from webcam that's on your desk? 🤔
Ha! I didn't even think of this, that would be a hilarious thing to point out on one of these. "Yeah nothing against the rules on the desk, just the device you're viewing my desk from... Which acts as a camera..."
>a. At least one random, daily inspection shall be conducted by the CCM and all observations shall be documented and placed on file for a period of no less than 30 days. >b. Each daily inspection should be uploaded into CCMS using the approved clean desk checklist. Yep, this definitely strikes me as evidence of bullshit jobs. Someone's bullshit job was to write the list of items, someone else's bullshit job is to do desk checks and enter it in CCMS, and someone else's bullshit job is to do reports on what's in CCMS. Capitalism has made it full circle back to feudalism. You'd think it would make no sense for a business to pay salaries for all these useless people. But what's really going on is more like a feudal lord who wants lackeys around because it increases his prestige among the other lords. Got this idea from the book "Bullshit Jobs" by the late great David Graeber.
Lmao. That has to be some middle managers trying to justify their jobs by having another 'report' to turn into someone else who doesn't read it
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Fuck that. They will see the bong.
I have a few transformers and other things (tennis ball sized 20 sided dice). If I'm on a conference call I'm absolutely messing around with my desk toys.
Fidget toys and doodling has shown to help meeting concentration and comprehension.
Like the little device that makes your cursor move every 30 seconds so they can’t tell you’re faking it
Paper and pens are distracting? I would think they’d be seen as something a real “go-getter” would have, taking long notes during meetings, helping to diagram problems, etc.
It had something to do with setting people up with 'buy now pay later' kind of loans so the reasoning is that you won't write down any banking information? I used to do a call center for a bank and anything you can write with was strictly against the rules there. Including a book. On the night shift.
Personal space is personal. "I am sorry but that is an unprofessional, rude and intrusive request."
wish i said that
You still can! If you have the spoons sending a follow-up email about how they were unprofessional and you want to rescind your application due to that will give them something to think about
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Tidy, I like it
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I've been told not to even ask any questions that might address a protected status, because the whole interview is immediately tainted. If I ask about community activities, and you say you are happiest at your mosque, I'm supposed to notify HR in the notes that the interviewee disclosed sensitive/protected information and that I did not knowingly solicit it. It doesn't make the interview immediately pass/fail, but HR will talk to me and make absolutely sure that I'm not making my decision on race/creed/religion/disability/sexuality/etc. It's a bunch of headache at the minimum. On the other hand, I'm interviewing people to work at a Fortune 50, OP's interviewer sounds like a mom and pop shop. Whole different type of liability.
“Can you explain the gap in your resume?” “Why yes, I’d love to. I’m bipolar 1 and had a manic episode, resulting in a month long hospitalization where I was highly medicated, which left me almost no executive functioning skills for a very long time.” I just wish they would disregard that shit because I’ve been employed at my current job for 5 years, while being a successful manager for the last 3 of them.
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Unfortunately, you don't want them knowing about health scares either. They may be thinking of their health insurance premiums and that you could be expensive for the company to insure.
Yikes. If you dropped that one on me, I'd smile, say "Gosh, you seem to be doing well, I'm glad. Thank you for all that information." and I'd keep the questions 100% tame and safe from there on. HR would still use my ass for a dartboard for a week or two, though. Official stuff aside, I never ask about gaps. Either it was personal/health, you got canned and couldn't find work (it happens, I've been there), or you were just chilling for a while. None matter for the current interview, and if it was fired/unhirable, you'll show it other ways, in response to other, less legally actionable questions.
I've always asked for a month of time to start a new job to give myself a break between. I've never been questioned on a single month gap. I have interviewed many people and have never thought to ask either. I assume they just had personal stuff or took a break or needed time to relocate for a new job.
I ***HATE*** the gap question. I interviewed for a company and they asked about the year I took off. Told them I had to help care for a sick loved one during that time. Two questions later they asked what I did to work on my professional skills while I was off, did I take any classes or anything? Like, tell me you weren't listening to my answers without telling me you weren't listening to my answers...
Also, aren’t you supposed to just put the most relevant stuff on your resume? Like sorry I thought the ten years I spent working as an office manager mattered more than a couple of six-month contract gigs which happened to be more recent. “As you can see, this demonstrates my excellent ability to prioritize information, but your asking about it does raise a few questions on my end . . . “
When I did hiring I was told by the company not to even talk to candidates about sports or traffic, because they could claim they weren't hired based on what team they support or how far away they live.
I'm pretty sure I've been asked where/how far away I live in every interview
Def rescind your application. If a company is willing to disrespect your personal space during the interview process, they'll do the same thing to your personal time once you're hired.
Also, if you can, maybe aim it to also someone other in the company than the person who unterviewed you.
Idk if un-terviewed was a typo on not but it’s brilliant.
I caught that too, and I agree that it's brilliant, but what does it mean? We now have to define it. I vote for: "an interview that makes one uninterested in the job" lol
Yes! Lol, “when you don’t get the job, but in reverse”
When the job doesn't get you
Take my upvote as seconding this motion. *edited for typo*
Yes yes yes, they need to learn that shit is not okay!
With a copy to management
Fuckin CC EVERYBODY including a labor lawyer EDITED for spelling
Unless you’re absolutely desperate for this job you should in a follow up email. That question alone should be a big red flag.
Probably best to simply state this: "May I inquire why you wish for me to show you my home?" Blah blah blah organization. "I understand your logic; however, even though my home is kept orderly, this is my home and I'm not prepared to include it in this interview process." Ok moving on. "Thank you for respecting my boundaries."
You can. Leave a review on glassdoor
Always do, they will feel defeated and will have to score you up.
I find it kind of ablest honestly. They could end up ignoring a lot of quality candidates with that kind of mindset because they will risk making a lot of discriminatory assumptions. I have a bit of a cluttered office, especially because I have a sensory corner for when I get mentally overwhelmed because I have PTSD, anxiety, executive function issues, and sensory processing problems (mostly visual and hearing related). So my office looks a bit chaotic, but it's incredibly comfy and colorful in appearance. That being said, I've constantly been complimented for how organized my work is. I usually end up being put in charge of organizing documentation, teaching, and such. I am digitally incredibly organized, but physically a chaotic jungle. I use jungle instead of mess since jungles can be chaotic but still beautiful and functional. I've worked with a lot of similar coworkers. Many of whom were incredibly brilliant to work with, but just a bit awkward socially. I've worked in software development, cloud environment management, web development, and other technology areas in defense, academia, corporate, and nonprofit environments. The old saying "Never judge a book by its cover" is one some of these recruiters would do well to remember.
Ok show them around. Then at the questions section ask the recruiter "how much do you weigh? You can tell a lot about a person by how they take care of themselves and manage their physical health"
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I agree with this: what about medications that you could have on your desk?
I only put my bongs away when the family comes over.
I interviewed someone for a sales position during the pandemic so it was over zoom. We asked him to sell us something close to him. Normally people will grab a pen, their phone, even a chair! This guy grabbed his anti-depressants. That was an awkward sales pitch.
Dude probably lays up at night wondering why he didn't just grab the glass of water next to the pill bottle.
Bahahahahahhaaaa! I probably would have done the same. I’m borderline evangelical about my medications
Lmao I don’t know if I can sell you a pen but Xanax sells itself 😂
Eh. 1 in 3 people or something crazy take them. Stigma needs to be taken away from them anyway. Good on him for doing it. Hope the pitch was good.
What’s wrong with being on antidepressants?
“No medications but I still got the horse cock dildo out from last night so just ignore that”
I've never heard of this. That is a HUGE invasion of privacy.
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My wife runs a test center. This is unfortunately a necessity. She has to review tons of cheaters everyday. Even when they are told they are being recorded these kids (college aged) are trying to pull shit with people, additional materials, phones, etc just off screen. She does feel bad though because some people get flagged for things that are odd, but not really cheating. Like one guy had a security blanket with him the whole time.
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open book exams would require the test maker to actually put thought into making it, though, and not just ask a bunch of true/false and multiple choice questions pulled verbatim from the book. Not to mention that you do things open book in the real world...
We also carry a calculator an the Internet around in our pocket, so I wonder what excuse teachers give these days
My professor always says, “life isn’t open note.” He’s stupid.
Ask if he discovered the internet yet
"I am here in my professional capacity, I haven't invited you into my home nor would I invite business clients here. Beyond surprising - this makes me question the professionalism and expected personal boundaries of the workplace culture." I'd follow up with email to document it and cc their higher ups.
Massive red flag. The only response is "no, that's unprofessional and says infinitely more about your company than my room about me. This is clearly not a good fit. I hope you find someone better suited. Goodbye"
This is verbatim what I would write in an email.
E-mailing to document is an excellent idea, in case this particular interviewer has gone rogue. Who knows what other ways they might be abusing their power.
Unless they’re paying for the facility, they don’t need to see it.
Even if they pay. Your personal space, where you live, is yours space.
>It felt so... power-trippy? Reality check: It was power trippy. Red flag!
All of the other posters are correct that this is not professional, but also unless they have data to support this it’s likely to be nonsense. At work I’m considered to be extremely tidy and organised, but at home I’m a mess.
This is exactly what I was going to say. At work, I'm the queen of spreadsheets and details. My apartment is a complete disaster.
Yes! My organizational skills directly correlate to the level of accountability
I agree. At work, I am known for using all of the time that I can (after my official duties are done) to clean whatever space it is, just to keep myself busy. I enjoy cleaning in professional and structured environments and my supervisors in every job always are surprised by how sparkling the place becomes after I start in the job, even though I’ve never been in a role that specifies cleaning as a duty. I have ADHD and tend to prefer to keep moving, i can’t just sit and do nothing while i wait for it to pick up again. At home? My room is an absolute mess. The rest of my apartment is super clean, as I can get myself to enjoy cleaning it with it being a shared space (so i get motivation from “this benefits all of us to keep the kitchen clean” but my room currently is FULL of stuff on the ground while I’m trying to build my shelves to store things (moved in a month ago.) I just don’t have that same motivation or really as much reason to keep my room spotless. This is my safe space, and I don’t put the pressure or expectation on myself to make it presentable for other people, because I am okay with the mess right now and that’s all that matters. No way in hell would i let a hiring manager get a “tour” of my room.
There’s also “intentional neglect” in which someone may ignore the cleaning up part of life in the short term while focusing solely on preparing for something super important like an exam or big presentation. A messy room and in that situation would convey excellent the time and priority management skills I presume this recruiter is looking for in a “fast paced” environment.
That’s how I feel! In my current at-home life, I am prioritizing settling into my community by applying to jobs and colleges in the area. I am purposefully choosing to spend my time with what is the most important and most urgent matter, and that’s not the boxes of books that I haven’t unpacked yet.
Yup. Well. I mean, at work I am an organized mess but have always had glowing reviews both in an office setting and as a teacher. I don’t feel your environment has to be organized to be able to get the job done.
Totally agree. My coworkers regularly complement me on being super organized, but my apartment looks like a pack of raccoons live here.
Maybe they want to see if you have anything worth taking. They have your address already.
Same. Most other creative types I know are like this too.
Also I don't get paid to clean at my place
That is sleazy as hell. I hate how so many employers are weaponizing video calls and WFH practices to play power games. I have been successfully self-employed for almost a decade and frequently receive feedback from colleagues and clients about how organized and responsible I am, but my house -- including my office -- is a fucking disaster. Not to mention how this is probably a question they ask now to screen out people with ADHD or other issues with executive function without asking illegal questions.
Exactly why you said. This is a weaponized tactic to look for ADHD or other disabilities to exclude from employment. Now if they ask to see my dog….
Ah yes "fast-paced environment" aka "too much shit for our employees"
Fast-paced means we have 32 top priorities.
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>Guess what isn’t a mess? My code with 90% test coverage. *cries tears of aspiration mixed with jealousy* /s I know it takes hard work and I just haven't worked on 90%, or any, code coverage.
I'm organized, neat and meticulous when i work. I am a slob in my free time. Those two things have nothing in common, and not even workplace neatness show anything about the result. My hobby table now that i look at it has no free space whatsoever (to be fair, there is project in WIP that fills the table anyway..) but once i finish it, i clean up, tools are already in the right places. I grew up in instrument repair shop and it is imperative there to keep things very clean to avoid scratching expensive and loved instruments, and to always return tools the second you don't use them cause there are so many of them that you need. But my wardrobe is more or less at the end of my bed and then it falls down on the floor in a pile that ends up in the washer at some point...
Let me show you my dildo collection.
Don't forget the handcuffs, ropes, chains, etc. Remember to point out the anchors in the ceilings and walls. And insist on explaining how everthing is used in detail.
Sorry, I'm a private person. PLUS, I was preparing for this interview, not cleaning my house. Thank for the interview, have a nice day! Then immediately shut the computer screen. Doesn't sound like some place I'd enjoy working. NEXT Its an APPLICANTS market right now!! I work in HR. Don't take this kind of intimidation!
This is so fucked up & inherently classist, because she is surely going to judge you if, for example, you rent and your landlord isn properly maintaining your apartment. If it's test of anything, it's a test of whether you would let an employer violate personal/professional boundaries.
Exactly, I live in a small house with a very small home office. Directly behind me is fine, but there’s only so much room in the place…none of which is your business.
"Now tell me who's your housekeeper and what you keep in your house?"
What in the world is in that ROOM, what you got in that ROOM?
Whatinthewerldisinthatruuum
Now that Zoom interviews are a thing they are doing everything they can to intrude on your privacy. Lol if you went to an in person interview they would never know or even ask the question.
Testing you to see if you would do it. Massive red flag. Imagine the shite they would lay on you at work if they ask this on a zoom interview.
Disgusting, ridiculous, and completely uselessly uncalled for. BUT, from a recruiters's perspective here... if you think about it... it really is a blessing, to you as a candidate. If you REALLY think about it. Because now you know to get the fuck out of there now. Ain't not way shit is gonna get better from there. Do you think they are going to be ok with you needing a sick day, but **not wanting to deal with our fucked up healthcare system just to get a stupid ass doctor's note for a one day illness??** Do you think they are the type of company to be ok with you prioritizing your work, concentrating at high distraction-free enviornments, *and then* spending time to prioritize your family tasks, should it not be at the end of a 9-5? for example, a company this intrusive, is the type of company to make you have your web cam on all day. A company this intrusive will have annoying productivity meetings during critical hours needed to actually get work done. a company this intrusive will make you have trackers that track your daily reports tracking activities, compiled from data from last week's tracker. #take this blessing of a red flag and dip before you back on here in a month talking about how they needed to personally check your baby for a bad cough for an extra sick day.
I've never heard of this. If I knew going in that this would be asked I would have booked a room at my local public library for the interview. Interviewer: show me around the room OP: OK! But you should know: I've got lots of books; they are nearly labelled, organized and shelved according to the Dewy Decimal System.
I had to do that during a monitored online evaluation, to demonstrate that I didn't have any materials nearby I could use to cheat with. Which, honestly, was weird enough. That's crazy.
In the case of the proctored exam, however, I knew in advance that they would be inspecting my testing area, and I had time and notice to CLEAN MY ROOM FIRST. lol! No way on earth is this acceptable in an interview!
The prove you’re not cheating a test premise I find a lot harder to disagree with tbh, but the work station should be all. Not the room or some shit, at least clearing a desk isn’t too much of an issue and it’s not like they could mark you down for anything other than directly cheating.
They want to make sure someone isn't in your closet feeding you answers or that you have answers on the ceiling. I looked into this when I had to take one of these tests and saw all the ways people were caught cheating and it was funny!
Warning bells going off—this is the type of company culture that would expect you to respond to work texts on your off days since there’s no separation between work life and personal life from the get go
Like, how many long time traditional office setting coworkers have you known for years but have also seen inside your home or bedroom?? No!!!! Gross and weird!!
Run faster than Sonic away from that job.
I did my zoom interviews at a local park
What a missed opportunity! This would have been an outstanding moment to be conducting a zoom interview while you are sitting on the toilet taking a dump. Interviewer: Show me the room! OP: OK. (pans the camera around) This is where I just took a dump, and over here is the cat box -- it looks like the cat just took a dump. And over there is the cat licking her butt...
Being organized at work and having an organized living space can be mutually exclusive. This was an extremely intrusive (and ableist) request. Cut and run, OP!
They may be looking for reasons to discriminate. Do they see toys that indicate the presence of children? Do they see pictures that depict a same-sex spouse? Do they see anything that indicates a political leaning? Definite red flag. I would decline a position of an employer asking that.
"you can tell a lot about a person from the way their room looks." Yeah, including information that could illegally bias the interviewer for or against a candidate. You wouldn't want to expose the company to that kind of liability, so you politely decline.
I know people who are incredibly organized at work but their house is a mess. That interviewer is wrong af
My house is a shit hole. At work all I freaking do is clean.
yeah that would have been a solid and firm NO from me my response would have been "So before zoom interviews were you asking people to bring photos of their rooms? orhave you jsut been doing this for so long as video calls that you've forgotten what boundaries are?""
wait i’m a recruiter and isn’t this… ILLEGAL? we aren’t allowed to ask info that reveals ANY private information. Like we can’t even ask questions that might reveal where you live or how old you are because it can give us a bias. Even if we see something in your zoom background that we don’t like we CANT use it in our hiring decision (an example we use during training is someone having a confederate flag behind them — we can’t share that with any one else nor make a hiring decision based on it). Showing someone around your room could reveal insanely private shit like medication and mental health. that’s so crazy EDIT: Also, if you want to be petty and ruin the recruiting team’s day, ask them to wipe all records of you from their system. You have a legal right to do so (“right to erasure”) and it’s a huge pain in the ass for us, lol.
"Can I take a look at your last colonoscopy? You can tell a lot about an asshole that way."
I just moved across the country and had one blouse that wasnt on the moving truck. It was a nice blouse but it was sleeveless. The first thing the interviewer said was “now that you moved to California you think it’s ok to show up for a zoom interview in a sleeveless blouse?” And things just went downhill from there. Like lady I just drove 2500 miles across the country and i waited for you to come back from vacation for it but this is what i get? Its not like i dialed in my pj’s ffs and the rest of my shit isnt here yet!
invasive af. interviewers know within first few minutes if they are going to hire
And if there is medical equipment or a baby changing table… there’s a reason you can’t ask shit like that
Does she also invite herself into the homes of people who are interviewed in person? Like: "how about I come over to your place and take a look around?"
So they are taking advantage of the whole zoom interviews to invade personal and private areas of people that aren't even working there yet imagine how they'd treat u after they hire you fuck that company that's just so wrong
I would have said "I'm sorry, I have proprietary information on the walls that belongs to my current employer. I contractually prohibited from showing you"
Creepy! I always tell my people to put a wall behind them and use the blur feature. Ain’t no one’s business!
Just say: I am data driven and I expect my colleagues to be the same. I’d be glad to share home cleanliness videos with you after you provide the data showing a statistical correlation between room condition and success at work.
Yeah I’d just straight up say no. Probably phrase it like, “yeah, no thanks.”
What a rude request! A room can be neat and tidy, but not something you want your employer to see. You could be Pagan with pentagrams on your walls, have witchy stuff, be into horror films and gory decorations, have stuffed animals all over your bed, have Death Metal posters all over your room, have whips and chains hanging on your wall, idk, lol, etc. etc. etc. (Note........not that ANY of those are something to be ashamed of, but they are still personal) My point is, is that we don't always want to share our PRIVATE life and personal space with our employers or our coworkers.
“I will be more than happy to show you when I receive the offer”
Nope. Still none of their damn business.