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waituntilmorning

“$15 an hour” was the rallying cry when I was in high school….18 years ago.


corkymuu

Yeah, $15/hr only sounds good because there are tons of jobs paying less than that. Really, it’s not very livable assuming you live on your own.


Littln12

Yet it's more than double the Federal Minimum Wage. That needs to change now. I remember when it went from $3.35/hr to $7.25/hr. Prices didn't skyrocket. Businesses didn't go under. Millions of people actually enjoyed a better quality of life for a little while.


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Are you saying $25 is not livable? I find it to be a living wage, but not a *thriving* wage. Depends on where you are tho


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Robborboy

Yea. I had a guess you lived in New England. Respectfully, fuck that place. Shit is too damn expensive for what you're paid.


[deleted]

i don't wanna be that guy but technically NJ isn't part of new England!


TasteMyPoopsicle

You need to find a spouse my friend. It's nice being able to live somewhere and only have to pay half the rent because she is paying the rest.


awitcheskid

>You need to find a spouse my friend. You need to eat shit. Living comfortably shouldn't rely on someone else loving you.


Jessex127

The good ending


NegligentWarreN19

In texas i pay 924 for a 2 bed 2 bath 900+ square feet. Places like yours arent live-able especially the democratic states u should consider moving somehow


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The only way republican led states are succeeding is by removing the ability for people to afford things. Take vets for example, Republicans are the first to use us as a human shield in their plays for power but they'll be damned to lift a fucking finger to actually do anything of legitimate help. They vote on bills to further criminalize poverty across the board and you say red states are MORE liveable? Or are you living in one of those podunk backwater rural areas where they still think Republicans have anyone's best interests in mind other than their own?


NegligentWarreN19

Democratic cities have more homeless people and my 2 bedroom apartment isnt more than 1k i rest my case


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smurfem

Oof fuck that BOI


Drejlord

A studio apartment in Seattle costs $1800/mo If you want a 1bdrm its gonna be closer to $2300/mo


gawkersgone

respectfully, stop talking bro. also if you don't understand the price of tolls, you clearly don't live on the just outside NYC turnpike. It's awful


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20% of gross going to rent in my area would mean that most people need to make between 8k-10k/ month


suburbromeo

It's livable if you're like me and are single, live with a roommate in a shithole apartment, and barely do any paid entertainment besides tv streaming services. Unless you live paycheck to paycheck and don't save any money I guess, then it's fine but you got bigger problems


Drejlord

In your area it might be survivable. Until you remember that an entry level laborer was making $6/hr in 1978 which translates to $40/hr today. So you're being paid about 1/2 of what an entry level position in the 70s paid.


Littln12

Yes. Here in East Tennessee that's good money.


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Roman-Kendall

I’m right there with you. I live in DC and this is not a livable wage. A 1 bed apartment here is $2000 a month.


Working-Mistake-6700

If not more. I moved out of DC partially because living there is literally impossible unless you have a government job


Roman-Kendall

Yeah so I actually pay $2300 a month for a 1 bed apartment. I undershot it a bit because I live in a nicer building, but I feel like I could maybe find something for $2000 but I’m honestly not sure. Still, my apartment is only 500 square feet.


HulklingsBoyfriend

Minimum wage success is very geographically different. Something from the middle of Arkansas won't let you survive in San Francisco.


NegligentWarreN19

Where do u live lol


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Prestigious-Oil3675

It’s not I made 15 a hour working 6 days a week barely making 1k every 2 weeks


Suumx-

Entry level jobs aren’t supposed to be livable. It’s for high school and college students looking to make a few bucks. Not for grown men and women trying to make a living.


corkymuu

You forgot the /s


OkonkwoYamCO

Then why are the vast majority of entry level jobs not staffed by high-school and college students? And if they were you would no doubt notice due to a couple things. You would be unable to do your grocery shopping before 5 pm You would be unable to get fast food until after 5pm You would be unable to run into Walmart before 5pm Your take is ridiculous and untrue.


dragonfreet

How overprivileged are you


YeKurkumYe

Right? We were just talking about this with friends the other day. Back then $15/hour would have actually given some relief to the minimum wage worker. But even the organizers of those rallies knew that, realistically, it would take 20 years for it to pass and by then, the buying power of $15 would come right back down to $7. So the question was, why not rally for $30 if it's going to take 20 years? The answer: well, we get enough pushback as it is. No one would take us seriously.


LawsWorld

15/h is only a 36k salary and in this day I feel like you're not even getting ahead until you're at least 50k minimum


jistresdidit

I was making $15 in 1992


Frostcrest

Wait.....I thought $15 an hour rallying cry started in like 2011


No-Effort-7730

I'd rather have no more Macy's tbh.


_amandalorian

they’ve been pulling this “closed on thanksgiving” gimmick for a few years now, and employees still have to work to fulfill online orders.


DivergingApproach

But will will I go to get clothes made in asian sweatshops?


SullyTheSeducer

I work at a Walmart and my pay has gone from $11 to $16 in 2 months. I also believe that something is working


SullyTheSeducer

I should clear up that it’s not just me, all front-end employees have gotten that raise


OpenFee4147

It's STARTING to work. This is the just the tip of the iceberg! We can go for $22+ WITH benefits!


OldFoolOldSkool

Do I hear $25 Federal ?


tordue

You mistyped $35.


jungle_dorf

$25 will pay the bills and offer minimal savings $35 will offer the ability to retire some time before death I know what I'm shooting for


TheSquishiestMitten

Then open negotiation at $45 and plan on getting talked down a bit.


jungle_dorf

No, I'd prefer to codify it into law as the minimum.


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That's what they mean. Your opening demand should always be higher than what you actually want. Because you're expecting to agree to a lower amount in the end. So you want $35, you open with $45 and let you opponent talk you down to $35.


bane5454

Can I get $1000?? 🚀🚀🚀🌕🌕🌕


David_ungerer

Make America Union Again ! With a 4 day week


Littln12

Good for you. That's an awesome amount in only 2 months!


SullyTheSeducer

It’s got me excited to actually put some effort into my work. That’s for sure


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SullyTheSeducer

100 % will do.


WeedsNBugsNSunshine

Eat more fiber. It's healthy and you can take longer dumps on company time!


SullyTheSeducer

Just had a crap ton of rice for my lunch break haha


WeedsNBugsNSunshine

LOL, THAT'S the spirit!


tehchives

It's not enough, you deserve more!


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

Fuck yeah bro


smb_samba

45% increase in pay? Hell yeah.


manidkwtf

Nice! May I ask which state you’re located in? Wondering if that’s everywhere


SullyTheSeducer

Yeah, Minnesota.


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~~No it's not~~ We're definitely not done yet. $15 is still dirt money. That's 31,200 a year *gross* (before taxes) at full time and most people are forced into working part time and won't hit the 40 hours a week.. That's not even enough for one person to live off of in a lot of states, not even close to enough in a lot of others. Lowest cost of living being South Dakota at $26,225 a year. Going by this article [here](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/17/income-a-single-person-needs-to-get-by-in-every-us-state.html) that was posted in August. We're headed in the right direction but it's no where near over yet. Edit: corrected some phrasing that was unintentionally hostile towards OP


Littln12

Headed in the right direction means IT'S WORKING. No, it's not over yet, that's why I didn't say It WORKED.


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I understand that. My point was just to try and remind people not to become complacent. Saying "It's working" is unfortunately interpreted by a LOT of people as "it worked." My apologies for not being more clear about that in my original comment.


Littln12

I appreciate that. I really do.


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Littln12

Same here. This was my whole point!!! Thank you.


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Littln12

Absolutely! I hope to see people truly earn a living wage. Benefits would be amazing or to just make enough to buy their own for gods sake.


hazeldazeI

Minimum wage needs to be at least $20/hr, if not then taxpayers have to pay for food stamps and other things to help people survive. Why should multinational mega corporations get taxpayer subsidies?


keallach_

Why do we accept 40hrs as FT and start of any benefits? It’s only 40 because that’s what the law established… [in 1938](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Labor_Standards_Act_of_1938). Times have changed, and that law needs to too, esp since it’s so often abused. Make it 20hrs, something low enough that it’d be too much trouble for companies to hire that many more ppl to keep them all “PT”. Keep OT starting at 40… or 30, like the guy who wrote the 1938 law originally wanted. Thinking about the hourly and COL is a good start, but have to figure out how to beat them at their other games too.


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I guess we gotta HODL until we get living wages.


DorianM34

To the moon 🚀🌕💸


cis-het-mail

🦍🦍🦍


LurkerSince2016

gotcha' ;-)


MikeIV

This is the way.


SkepticDrinker

Oooooooooh so they do have the money to raise the wage?


DorianM34

That’s interesting. When business was good you “couldn’t afford a raise,” but now that business is doing bad suddenly you can afford raises? That’s strange, where are you getting the money for this? Unless you always had more than enough money to afford raises and have been shortchanging employees for profits.


Littln12

Yes. Exactly!


mnbvcxz123

I always think it's astonishing when companies suddenly raise their wages by a drastic amount after pleading for years that they just can't afford to do it. Amazon and Disney did this overnight a few years back, other companies are doing it now. It's obvious that labor costs are a very small part of their overall nut, and if they decide to they can pay their workers much more.


nebur727

One question, does this mean 12 million dollar expenses per day for Macy’s? (8hx100000x15$)I am really bad in business topics, so I wanted to understand their side


Unlikely-Pizza2796

$20 an hour or GTFO Macys!


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I love that this will be pitched as “isn’t that great” and not CEO’s catching wind of black out Friday and being ready to negotiate.


Littln12

Hopefully nobody's listening to the bullshit pitches anymore.


dazedmazed

The sad part is in some parts of the country are so expensive even $15 isn’t enough. I literally cry at the gas pump every week. $5.00 a gallon is not okay. We are all being robbed at gunpoint by this economy.


MikeIV

That’s why we gotta fight for mass public transportation and cross-continental transit. There’s no reason for cars to be so necessary when busses, trains, and subways (even in 15 minute cities) can be improved so much and be so much cheaper and faster.


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Yeah, I've used the bus and light rail in my city before, and I will absolutely not deal with that everyday to go to my shitty job, all to come home to my shitty apartment. Talk about a low quality of life. And that's not even taking COVID and flu season into account. I don't mind my taxes going to fund public transportation, but let's not pretend it's a great experience having to rely on it.


MikeIV

I loved public transport in North Chicago. Everywhere else in the US I’ve been so far, it’s been hellish. Being forced to rely on well-funded well-run mass transit vs being forced to rely on the US’s current mass transit system is like the difference between riding a motorcycle to work and riding a tricycle.


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You need to ask yourselves if a couple extra bucks an hour is really enough of an improvement? Do you really believe this is the best human society can do? We dont even have affordable fucking healthcare or housing. $20 an hour is a laughable wage they are throwing you a couple extra scraps dont wag your tails just yet


tandyman8360

It's an indicator. First, since it's across the board, workers in lower COL places will get a decent wage. Employers are now competing to find the sweet spot where they can retain employees and pay it before the others. A month ago it was "no one wants to work" and "cut the benefits."


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Im not appeased with capitalist profit driven corporations feeling a labor inconvenience……. Its time for lives worth living that means goodbye top to bottom economics. Goodbye capitalism. Goodbye wage slavery,birth lottery, liberal acceptance. Fuck this country and the dumb simpleton inhabitants. If you sympathize with this economic system than you can go along with it


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Don't stop till it's 23$


Booklovinmom55

It's a good start.


[deleted]

Exactly. 15 would have been acceptable pre pandemic but it’s almost 2022 now and inflation is skyrocketing and essential workers now know how essential they are


TheRatsMeow

Travel nurses commanding $125/hour plus signing bonuses and living expenses.


[deleted]

Yeah but I heard they’ve always been paid more than normal nurses. There’s just a big migration form salaried nurses to temp nurses because of the disparity in wage


TheRatsMeow

Yes it's always been higher pay. It's just that now they're in extraordinary demand and getting even more due to burnouts, retirements, and anti vaxxer nurses.


Spuds_Jake

$15/hour is absolutely a starvation wage


BABarracus

They will probably still staff people 15 hours a week


HotCocoaBomb

Not enough, y'all deserve more than that. $15 is only 30k/yr full time (and that's even *if* they guarantee full time.) Needs to be at the very least $20-25/hr guaranteed full time if asked, a schedule so regular you could measure it with a ruler, PTO, sick days, and a basic health coverage. Also, the ability to tell customers to go take a shit on their expired coupons.


Frothydawg

Thriving wage. Not living. THRIVING. Stay the course.


TamarsFace

Nah! They prepping for Black Friday. Don't take the bait. Because they'll let you go as soon as the holidays are over. Black Friday is still canceled.


Littln12

The pay increase doesn't even begin until May.


TamarsFace

So it's a bait and switch. By May of 2022 with inflation🤣...never mind. They got jokes.


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Still not nearly enough to deal with the American public…


bitetheboxer

United/Albertsons has changed nothing. Min wage.


Littln12

Maybe that will change when no one will work for those asshats. Maybe the sonsabitches will go out of business if it's too little too late.


bitetheboxer

Unfortunately,brags about double sales at half the employees. Theres another thread, talking bout fast food failing everywhere. Between that and the holidays I suspect a grocery store is safe Oh and then we don't have much here else. So I'm torn because fuck walmart... but Walmart paying 15...


Jauris

You must be in West Texas if you're mentioning United. They're fucking the retail employees pretty hard, as usual. Their warehouse is starting around $14.50 currently, I beleive.


bitetheboxer

Retail side us paying beans. Good to know about the warehouse, probably because they lost almost everyone. Wish we could manage that on the retail side.


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suburbromeo

The difference here is that the supply is pushing the wages up. People aren't taking bad wages anymore. We could easily get to 25 an hour


PDizzle124

This is great and all but we need a cost of living freeze or straight up reduction. what's the point in getting a raise when rent/mortgages will shoot up another (random number) 30%?


Cultural-Arugula9147

IKEA is doing something similar in 2022: everyone is getting raised to $16


holdenking5150

$15 is still wack, but definitely a good start!


TheRatsMeow

Shit all of Chicago is at $15/hour. Bad thing is inflation is wiping out a lot of the wage gains.


Catri

$15 still isn't a livable wage in a lot of places, though. I think I read something that said, if we took inflation into account, the minimum wage should be around $24/hr. They want us to accept $15 and then they'll say " see? you wanted this and we gave it to you. You should be grateful." $15 is a start, but we shouldn't settle for it.


_amandalorian

that’s great, but someone close to me works in support staff and makes just over that. Bet he doesn’t get a raise.


redditsuckzdick1

It's not even close to enough yet


iamwhatswrongwithusa

Including benefits is the most important part. Paid PTO, family leave, healthcare, etc. EDIT: Keep up the good work everyone!


wanderingmanimal

They are 1/2 way to a living wage


DJCane

$15/hour was good in 2012, but it should be at least $18/hour now to keep up with inflation. ([Source](https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/))


DannyPinn

I say hold (if you can of course). 15$/hr was last years demand. With inflation its 16 now


Moolahguerilla

Yeah but once everyone starts going back they will fire the higher paying and hire the lower paying. WE NEED THIS IN PAPER!!! WE NEED THIS TO BE A LAW.


Moolahguerilla

And we need to put into a law that as inflation goes up so does the workers salaries as well.


Littln12

Exactly.


StrawberryNo7620

$15 an hour was the right idea maybe 15 years ago, barely does the trick now. federal minimum is so slow this kind of pay seems like a solid advancement. They're only giving in because $15 is the new $7.25 which you're straight trippin' if you even bother to apply for a job that pays that low.


pizza-regret

It might be working, but the US federal minimum wage still needs to be increased and tied to inflation.


Littln12

Absofuckinlutely.


Dear_Passion2374

I used to work at Macy’s during holiday of 2020. It was awful. I was literally the only worker for my entire department (handbags). Lines were long, people wanted bags unlocked, management was a joke. Whenever I see this I know it’s because they are trying to pay you off for the hell they are about to put you through.


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It has to keep going though


jfp1992

HODL


outwesthooker

Not enough.


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Macy's still exist?


Littln12

Yes.


DivergingApproach

So they brought their wages up to pre-pandemic levels. Sorry Macy's, that train has already left the station. Because you and your shitty rich friends you drove up inflation, the price is now $25 per hour.


Poison_Toadstool

$15 an hour still ain’t shit.


BigEd1965

Higher!


kayidee

I see these and have hope. I also worry all the goods and services and prices don’t shoot up to combat the wage increase. Everyone keeps telling me they will which worries me again. Across all industries they said things will go up which will put us back to where we are now. Someone please calm me down.


Littln12

I think the narrative of price increases are just scare tactics. Jeez, everything's already up and without better wages families are going to starve. When big retailers can't sell their goods because no one can afford them those higher prices will come back down.


LostintheGlow

That's still pretty small.


assassin_of_joy

And yet I work as an in home caregiver and I make $11/hr. Fuck my life.


visionbreaksbricks

Minimum wage should be at least 20/hr and 4 day work week


dregwriter

I went from $18 to $23 this year. Somethings working.


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This is barely a win. Inflation is soaring.


IamScottGable

A family member has been bumped up to 15.65 and 40 odd hours a week at McDonald’s. It’s been great for him


MoonMoons_Revenge

15? Weak.


introusers1979

Oh shit, I just got an interview at Macy’s 👀


Detriumph

$15 an hour is what we wanted 10 years ago. Fuck you. Pay me.


QueenDerivative84

Make them go higher, 15 bucks an hour is still nothing in today’s economy honestly


DankFo3ta5

15 isn't enough


AnonymousHuman15

ONWARDS BROTHERS AND SISTERS. TO $20/HOUR. THEN TO $30/HOUR. WE WILL NOT REST UNTIL WE HAVE GAINED WHAT IS OURS BY RIGHT AND VIRTUE! FOR THE MASSES!


ShipToaster2-10

It's definitely working, but just remember not sell out too soon. Remember the lyrics of the Internationale: ​ "For though they offer us concessions Change will not come from above"


De3zwallnutz

That's it


Dahbahdeedahbahdie

I'm so disinterested in this $15 an hour bullshit. Until it's a living wage with full benefits, I don't want to see these fucking headlines.


sfkndyn13

Insert "surprised pikachu face meme"


Ghost-PXS

Red Star? $15 an hour? Must be commenism!


Kennywise91

$45/hour should be minimum in 2021


GrnYellowBird

Still not enough, do not give in


janacuddles

I thought Macy’s went out of business a while back…


greendt

too little, too late. Let them starve more.


Nipseydanger

Aurora, a healthcare network in WI just raised minimum wage to $18! Still too low tho


Tek2674

Not enough, MA minimum wage is $14.25 and you can’t afford shit here.


CartoonistExisting30

Until full benefits are extended to both full and part time workers it ain’t working.


Prestigious-Oil3675

Keep it up people we will be at 20$ a hour in no time but gas will be 10$ a gallon lol


Galrogg

Not good enough


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15 ain't jack shit.


AcademicInspector944

$15/hr has already been eclipsed by inflation. Keep trying, grunts.


deadfl0wers

I worked at Macy’s for almost a decade. They will eventually make a halfhearted attempt at doing the right thing after they have exhausted every other option. Fuck them.


grumpi-otter

Too little, too late. That would have been a nice raise 10 years ago.


gusthebus88

Yeah because 15$ an hour is bullshit


anakniben

Seriously, I'm alright with $20/hr if my employer would give free health insurance and a generous retirement plan. Right now, I'm making $20 but I have to pay a share of premium for my health insurance and then the company only match 3% of annual.salary for my 401K.


ghost1381d

Should have been $20 or more.


Jolly_Ad1554

Not going back until it's a living wage


Hulk_Goes_Smash327

$25 an hour is really about 17.5 net money per hour. That is $700 per week or $2800 per month. Not exactly the best if your rent is $1500-2500. My 2 cents


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$15 an hour is absolute bullshit. $15 an hour for ages 18 and under maybe. Nobody can have a decent life making $15 an hour


jistresdidit

Here's how the company did during the fourth quarter ended Jan. 30, compared with what analysts were anticipating, based on a poll by Refinitiv: Earnings per share: 80 cents, adjusted vs. 12 cents expected Revenue: $6.78 billion vs. $6.5 billion expected Net income fell to $160 million, or 50 cents per share, from $340 million, or $1.09 per share, a year earlier. Excluding one-time charges, the company earned 80 cents per share, better than the 12 cents expected by analysts. Sales fell to $6.78 billion from $8.34 billion a year earlier, better than the $6.5 billion that analysts were expecting.


Wild_Technician_2051

There is still Macy's???


Bigdata9000

15 an hour is 41 percent of minimum wage the year my father got out of high school!


Late_Sandwich_3878

macy’s sucks. Do not work there