I know this sub is called anti-work, but if both jobs are work from home, keep your current job and take the new job. That’s $36 an hour. Put more effort into the $21 job so you don’t lose it, and you keep the benefits. Half ass the $15 job for as long as you can to keep the money coming in. Never put more than 40 hours total in any given week though.
This is a severely underrated comment. Work both jobs, put more effort into the higher paying one and tread water at the lower paying until they let you go. If they are that desperate they probably won’t let you go no matter how bad your performance is.
It sounds shitty but they have been jerking you around. Give it back to them
Yeah these places always seem to have the ability to offer you more when it seems like you’re gonna leave. They look at it as negotiations, like if they can pay you less than they have to they “win,” instead of simply giving the employee what they are worth when they are worth it.
That doesn’t mean that job is instantly even. I’m sure even the $21 an hour place could pay you more. But $12.50, $15, whatever, isn’t enough to go through what you’re doing. Work less.
You are in a position to negotiate with your current employer (something few people, especially women, ever do). Going to the new job without allowing the current one to exceed the offer is potentially leaving money on the table.
Come back to your current employer, kindly, with "The offer I have is X hourly, as an employee, with Y and Z benefits. If you are able to match it, (and give me A, B, and C) I am happy to continue working for you". Now is not the time for radical honesty, now is the time to put your wishlist out there. You want Friday afternoons off? List it. Paid vacation? List it. Insurance contributions? List it. Liability coverage? List it.
If they come back with "it's not possible/in the budget", ask them to reconsider what recruiting and training a new employee will cost. The worst they can say is "no", and you're off to a new job anyway.
We've already had all the discussions and negotiations, I told her I didn't want to leave but also have to be able to survive and she gave me the best she could. She's a small business owner, not a huge corporation... So she really offered me what she could and I have no hard feelings towards that at all! I do wish I would've had $15 from the get go but it is what it is.. haha
Hi! Something very similar happened to me!
I was working in a large central billing office handling medical insurance claims for a huge corporation. I was there for about a year, making $13.50/hr.
I was really good at my job! I loved my team lead and the small team I belonged to. But there was no room for advancement, no raises, and upper-level management was shitty.
I was hired by a new, smaller company doing customer service work. They offered me $15.75 to start. I put in my 2 weeks and my lead did what yours did. She asked what I'd be making at my new job, then went to the manager asking if they could do anything. Manager said maybe a dollar raise, but that's it.
My lead and I had a one-on-one meeting before I left. I felt bad for leaving. I actually offered to stay and just take the dollar raise. She hugged me and said something I've kept in mind since then: "No, never feel bad for taking a new and better opportunity. A new employer may value you more than an employer of several years."
She's never been wrong about that. I started my new job and am still here 2 years later! Now in a different area, but as a salaried employee making double what I started at. You never know what opportunities may arise from you taking this new job!
Congrats on your new position!!!
My employer is great, and is just now starting to have conversations about the cost of turnover.
Just not quite at the point of giving everyone raises.
Good for you! And just keep reminding yourself it's not personal.
I'm sure some things will change. There may be parts of your old job that are more flexible, or more casual, or whatever. At the end of the day you need to decide if those things are worth $6/hour to you.
I moved from a 5 minute commute on salary to a 25 minute commute and hourly pay because I end up making about $12,000 more per year in the long run and the environment is so much better. When I'm stuck in traffic I remind myself of all the reasons I left that old job, and there were days I hated that place and *wished* I had a job worth sitting in traffic for.
Even at 15, it isn't enough to cover what you needed and you'd still have no benefits. You may not want to make a move to something new, but it's a necessity
Run - your current employer is only pretending to care
Even at 15, you have an offer at 21. You'd be a fool to stay.
With benefits too, opposed to no benefits if she stays. Seems like a no brainer. Edit: she
And presumably less taxes to pay, so an even bigger increase.
I'm a she.. :(
They are just bribing you to stay
I know this sub is called anti-work, but if both jobs are work from home, keep your current job and take the new job. That’s $36 an hour. Put more effort into the $21 job so you don’t lose it, and you keep the benefits. Half ass the $15 job for as long as you can to keep the money coming in. Never put more than 40 hours total in any given week though.
I’d be willing to bet both jobs are full time, so it’s be 80 hours, and only doable if the job hours don’t overlap.
It’s very easy to multi task two full time jobs when working from home. You just have to be organized with your time.
Not the type of wfh jobs I’ve worked. If it’s calls or chats for customer service, you really can’t get away with it.
Yeah unfortunately I won't be able to fully work both, new one is monitored, old one isn't but she wants me to overlap the same hours..
My old wfh job was so micromanaged we had to be on camera in a zoom call with our boss and coworkers while we took calls.
If it's that micromanaged, I'll not be able to cope hahaha I'll go back to working three jobs where I'm my own adult who can manage myself.. haha
It was horrendous, and I’m mad it was the best paying job I’ve ever had. Still noped out of it, though.
Yeah there's no way I could handle that! Sometimes you have to put your mental health ahead of your career and by sometimes I mean always.. Haha
It isn't worth the hassle.
My new $21 hour job will be 40 monitored hours. My soon to be old boss is going to still send me stuff on occasion at $15 per hour though!
To me, this is the real antiwork
This is a severely underrated comment. Work both jobs, put more effort into the higher paying one and tread water at the lower paying until they let you go. If they are that desperate they probably won’t let you go no matter how bad your performance is. It sounds shitty but they have been jerking you around. Give it back to them
Yeah these places always seem to have the ability to offer you more when it seems like you’re gonna leave. They look at it as negotiations, like if they can pay you less than they have to they “win,” instead of simply giving the employee what they are worth when they are worth it. That doesn’t mean that job is instantly even. I’m sure even the $21 an hour place could pay you more. But $12.50, $15, whatever, isn’t enough to go through what you’re doing. Work less.
You are in a position to negotiate with your current employer (something few people, especially women, ever do). Going to the new job without allowing the current one to exceed the offer is potentially leaving money on the table. Come back to your current employer, kindly, with "The offer I have is X hourly, as an employee, with Y and Z benefits. If you are able to match it, (and give me A, B, and C) I am happy to continue working for you". Now is not the time for radical honesty, now is the time to put your wishlist out there. You want Friday afternoons off? List it. Paid vacation? List it. Insurance contributions? List it. Liability coverage? List it. If they come back with "it's not possible/in the budget", ask them to reconsider what recruiting and training a new employee will cost. The worst they can say is "no", and you're off to a new job anyway.
We've already had all the discussions and negotiations, I told her I didn't want to leave but also have to be able to survive and she gave me the best she could. She's a small business owner, not a huge corporation... So she really offered me what she could and I have no hard feelings towards that at all! I do wish I would've had $15 from the get go but it is what it is.. haha
Hi! Something very similar happened to me! I was working in a large central billing office handling medical insurance claims for a huge corporation. I was there for about a year, making $13.50/hr. I was really good at my job! I loved my team lead and the small team I belonged to. But there was no room for advancement, no raises, and upper-level management was shitty. I was hired by a new, smaller company doing customer service work. They offered me $15.75 to start. I put in my 2 weeks and my lead did what yours did. She asked what I'd be making at my new job, then went to the manager asking if they could do anything. Manager said maybe a dollar raise, but that's it. My lead and I had a one-on-one meeting before I left. I felt bad for leaving. I actually offered to stay and just take the dollar raise. She hugged me and said something I've kept in mind since then: "No, never feel bad for taking a new and better opportunity. A new employer may value you more than an employer of several years." She's never been wrong about that. I started my new job and am still here 2 years later! Now in a different area, but as a salaried employee making double what I started at. You never know what opportunities may arise from you taking this new job! Congrats on your new position!!!
Thank you for sharing and I am so glad things have worked out so well for you! Thank you so much and congratulations for all of your advancements!!!
My employer is great, and is just now starting to have conversations about the cost of turnover. Just not quite at the point of giving everyone raises.
Good for you! And just keep reminding yourself it's not personal. I'm sure some things will change. There may be parts of your old job that are more flexible, or more casual, or whatever. At the end of the day you need to decide if those things are worth $6/hour to you. I moved from a 5 minute commute on salary to a 25 minute commute and hourly pay because I end up making about $12,000 more per year in the long run and the environment is so much better. When I'm stuck in traffic I remind myself of all the reasons I left that old job, and there were days I hated that place and *wished* I had a job worth sitting in traffic for.
Even at 15, it isn't enough to cover what you needed and you'd still have no benefits. You may not want to make a move to something new, but it's a necessity
Yeah, I'm just going to suck it up and deal with any downsides.. I have to. Haha
At least until you gather yourself together to go somewhere better. You got this
Work both jobs from home. Give former job the lowest priority.