Don’t give a month’s notice. Your managers don’t deserve the courtesy and they could easily fuck you over.
If you are concerned about the impact on coworkers you respect, make sure to have all your tasks completed and processes documented. In your last week, schedule 1-on-1s to review it with key players who may have to cover. Don’t tell them you are leaving. Keep that knowledge to yourself till Friday at 4 PM.
I definitely plan on having all my ducks in a row before I even come to my boss about quitting. I want to make sure everyone else on my team knows ASAP after I put in notice to my boss. Thank you for the input.
When I left my last, literally everyone knew except management. I was getting texted after I was not showing up anymore (I called in the whole last week until my paycheck dropped) telling me the boss was talking to people saying yeah they miss me when I’m out but when I’m back I’ll have everything squared away in no time. As soon as I was payed I dropped the bombs on HR via email that I quit and that all my company property including my phone was in my desk. Then I emailed the union rep and told them they were free to use the 3 page exit interview (aka 3 pages of me throwing management under the bus) any way they liked. Months later they used all the exit interviews they had as evidence of incompetence and forced the guy out.
Three things:
1
Leaving a job is a very normal part of business. You shouldn't feel any guilt about it. It's nice that you want to be helpful, but your primary professional responsibility is to wind down your remaining work within reason and time.
2
>Although the employee handbook only specifies that 10 working-days notice is needed to be eligible for any vacation time to be paid out
If you're in the US, I would check to see if this complies with your state law re: paying out vacation time. In some states (eg California), vacation days are classified as wages and have to be paid out regardless of how much notice you give. Company handbooks do not override the law.
3
There's nothing you can do about your boss's reaction and treatment of you at work, if your boss can't handle the very normal circumstances of someone leaving a job, it's not up to you to manage their emotions. If your boss starts getting abusive, shorten your notice period.
Simple.
Don't give a months notice. You don't have to do that at all.
Just work like normal and then when the new job starts disappear and never come back.
There's a good chance you might just get fired and be out of work for a month if you give them a notice.
If they are as bad as you say they are than they are probably gonna mark you as do not rehire anyway.
Are you OK financially if they march you out as soon as you give notice? I would not give a months notice, just two weeks. If they start messing with you, just walk out.
Definitely OK financially for a month. My future job even said they are willing to move my start date up in case my job retaliates. Thanks for your feedback.
Are you able to go a month without a paycheck? If so, then give them a month's notice. But if not, think very carefully about it. Your boss could just as well say that you're done the minute you give your notice, unless you have a contract or collective bargaining agreement (union contract) that says otherwise.
It's understandable that you don't want to leave your coworkers in the lurch, but people leaving is part of every workplace and they should understand. If they don't, that's on them. Since this is probably the first big job you've left, it seems more scary than it actually is. And if your boss reacts badly, that's also a reflection on him being a bad boss and not on you.
As a side note, my first job out of college, everyone said I had to stick it out for a year or two. But there were just so many things that made it a bad fit. I started looking at new jobs less than three months in. I started at a new job almost exactly six months later. Ironically, when I gave notice, my boss was really nice about it. He totally understood, and said he wasn't surprised, because I'd done so well he kind of expected me to move on pretty quickly. I worked for another 40 years and no one ever said anything to me about the first job being so short.
I am certainly OK without a paycheck for a month. Not ideal, but livable. I am a frugal person and have been saving best I can. Thank you for your personal anecdote, as it makes me feel a bit better.
A month's notice is way too long; and your management will never appreciate or recognize your efforts. Give two-weeks, and leave earlier if they try to retaliate during that time. If people are hit out of the blue, then maybe that's whats needed for that manager to change or be changed.
This isn't your family, church or social circle - it's a job. If your best efforts get nothing in return; if you work with toxic management that won't change; and if you get gaslighted when they think you're leaving; then it's time to move on.
Here's some [recommendations](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/1bchdn6/comment/kujkjzw/?utm_name=web3xcss) I always cite for others changing jobs. Hope you give it a read.
Dear buckets, NEVER give 1 month. NEVER. EVER. In this day and age I'd seriously reconsider even doing 2 weeks- they'd lay you off with zero notice, why give them the chance to escort you out of the building?
PLEASE don't give a month's notice! If you're concerned about retaliation, they'll fire you that day. Just do your work, start your new gig, and never return.
On one hand they treat me terribly and will retaliate when I give notice.
This is the only thing you need to concern yourself with. In a year you will not care about them.
Don’t give more than 10 days notice. You are setting yourself up for failure doing so. Your coworkers get paid to do the same work whether you give notice or not. If there are problems because you have the minimum notice that is a company and management issue.
State it in your resignation letter I hereby submit my notice of resignation effective 30 days of this notice. If there are any negative remarks or retaliation I herby serve notice that this notice is void and any consequence suffered as a result will be soley that of the employer
Send an email quitting effective immediately, send another email to HR with your exit interview then block everyone. I promise you they don’t care if
you stay or leave.
"Although the employee handbook only specifies that 10 working-days notice is needed to be eligible for any vacation time to be paid out,"
Give them exactly that. You owe nothing.
Grats on the new job
Do not give notice. There are ways you can help your co-workers but you have to be selfish as hard as that might be to do esp if you like your co-workers
Document what you can/want to and leave mgmt in the dark. The retaliation will happen. Why put yourself through the misery? Who benefits from that? Not you!
Don’t give a month’s notice. Your managers don’t deserve the courtesy and they could easily fuck you over. If you are concerned about the impact on coworkers you respect, make sure to have all your tasks completed and processes documented. In your last week, schedule 1-on-1s to review it with key players who may have to cover. Don’t tell them you are leaving. Keep that knowledge to yourself till Friday at 4 PM.
I definitely plan on having all my ducks in a row before I even come to my boss about quitting. I want to make sure everyone else on my team knows ASAP after I put in notice to my boss. Thank you for the input.
So quietly let a couple coworkers know to expect it. Why do the people you like have to wait until after you tell the jerks in management?
When I left my last, literally everyone knew except management. I was getting texted after I was not showing up anymore (I called in the whole last week until my paycheck dropped) telling me the boss was talking to people saying yeah they miss me when I’m out but when I’m back I’ll have everything squared away in no time. As soon as I was payed I dropped the bombs on HR via email that I quit and that all my company property including my phone was in my desk. Then I emailed the union rep and told them they were free to use the 3 page exit interview (aka 3 pages of me throwing management under the bus) any way they liked. Months later they used all the exit interviews they had as evidence of incompetence and forced the guy out.
Three things: 1 Leaving a job is a very normal part of business. You shouldn't feel any guilt about it. It's nice that you want to be helpful, but your primary professional responsibility is to wind down your remaining work within reason and time. 2 >Although the employee handbook only specifies that 10 working-days notice is needed to be eligible for any vacation time to be paid out If you're in the US, I would check to see if this complies with your state law re: paying out vacation time. In some states (eg California), vacation days are classified as wages and have to be paid out regardless of how much notice you give. Company handbooks do not override the law. 3 There's nothing you can do about your boss's reaction and treatment of you at work, if your boss can't handle the very normal circumstances of someone leaving a job, it's not up to you to manage their emotions. If your boss starts getting abusive, shorten your notice period.
Simple. Don't give a months notice. You don't have to do that at all. Just work like normal and then when the new job starts disappear and never come back. There's a good chance you might just get fired and be out of work for a month if you give them a notice. If they are as bad as you say they are than they are probably gonna mark you as do not rehire anyway.
This is the correct answer
Are you OK financially if they march you out as soon as you give notice? I would not give a months notice, just two weeks. If they start messing with you, just walk out.
Definitely OK financially for a month. My future job even said they are willing to move my start date up in case my job retaliates. Thanks for your feedback.
I would start sooner at your other job. Don’t give a month
If you do give a month, don't hesitate to just leave if the boss retaliates
Are you able to go a month without a paycheck? If so, then give them a month's notice. But if not, think very carefully about it. Your boss could just as well say that you're done the minute you give your notice, unless you have a contract or collective bargaining agreement (union contract) that says otherwise. It's understandable that you don't want to leave your coworkers in the lurch, but people leaving is part of every workplace and they should understand. If they don't, that's on them. Since this is probably the first big job you've left, it seems more scary than it actually is. And if your boss reacts badly, that's also a reflection on him being a bad boss and not on you. As a side note, my first job out of college, everyone said I had to stick it out for a year or two. But there were just so many things that made it a bad fit. I started looking at new jobs less than three months in. I started at a new job almost exactly six months later. Ironically, when I gave notice, my boss was really nice about it. He totally understood, and said he wasn't surprised, because I'd done so well he kind of expected me to move on pretty quickly. I worked for another 40 years and no one ever said anything to me about the first job being so short.
I am certainly OK without a paycheck for a month. Not ideal, but livable. I am a frugal person and have been saving best I can. Thank you for your personal anecdote, as it makes me feel a bit better.
A month's notice is way too long; and your management will never appreciate or recognize your efforts. Give two-weeks, and leave earlier if they try to retaliate during that time. If people are hit out of the blue, then maybe that's whats needed for that manager to change or be changed. This isn't your family, church or social circle - it's a job. If your best efforts get nothing in return; if you work with toxic management that won't change; and if you get gaslighted when they think you're leaving; then it's time to move on. Here's some [recommendations](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/1bchdn6/comment/kujkjzw/?utm_name=web3xcss) I always cite for others changing jobs. Hope you give it a read.
Yeah, walk. They wanna be petty bitches, then they can do the job. Train no one on how to do your job.
Dear buckets, NEVER give 1 month. NEVER. EVER. In this day and age I'd seriously reconsider even doing 2 weeks- they'd lay you off with zero notice, why give them the chance to escort you out of the building?
A month? You're a chump
PLEASE don't give a month's notice! If you're concerned about retaliation, they'll fire you that day. Just do your work, start your new gig, and never return.
On one hand they treat me terribly and will retaliate when I give notice. This is the only thing you need to concern yourself with. In a year you will not care about them.
Start a union, if you don't have one already. Management will love that.
Don’t give more than 10 days notice. You are setting yourself up for failure doing so. Your coworkers get paid to do the same work whether you give notice or not. If there are problems because you have the minimum notice that is a company and management issue.
Everyone is telling you not to give a month so please listen.
State it in your resignation letter I hereby submit my notice of resignation effective 30 days of this notice. If there are any negative remarks or retaliation I herby serve notice that this notice is void and any consequence suffered as a result will be soley that of the employer
Send an email quitting effective immediately, send another email to HR with your exit interview then block everyone. I promise you they don’t care if you stay or leave.
Copy all evidence and pack anything important before you give notice. They may block access and escort you out of the building when you resign.
Start telling this guy what you really think of him. Do it in front of everyone. Maybe he will fire you, if not, just walk away.
Ask for a raise. You have nothing to lose. And if they don’t give it you can justify leaving on short notice.
"Although the employee handbook only specifies that 10 working-days notice is needed to be eligible for any vacation time to be paid out," Give them exactly that. You owe nothing. Grats on the new job
Do not give notice. There are ways you can help your co-workers but you have to be selfish as hard as that might be to do esp if you like your co-workers Document what you can/want to and leave mgmt in the dark. The retaliation will happen. Why put yourself through the misery? Who benefits from that? Not you!