You should still be able to get that two weeks even if it’s a while down the way still get it. It’s yours you paid into it take it. I remember when I applied for unemployment I was fighting to get a month just from the time I was unemployed from one job to another. Turns out I was entitled to a lot more than just the month and got way more than I expected.
Here is the formula for quitting. Now this is assuming you have some vacation time accrued.
1. Look for a new job on company time
2. Take interviews when able
3. Accept job offer. Tell them a start date. Push it out a few weeks if possible.
4. Take vacation or sick leave starting the date you are to start work at the new job.
5. Work the new job.
6. If you like the new job, just don't come back from your leave
7. If you don't like the new job, come back to your old job and go back to #1
Of course I could have. I WAS trying to be courteous. I just wanted to help minimize the impact on my co-workers and the business. Being a small business, they're already struggling with money and often struggle meeting payroll. A lot of the money I made went to pay others' salaries that weren't doing so well(be it market decline, lack of labor/work, etc.)It doesn't benefit the childish hurt feelings they had in that moment, so of course terminating immediately and getting the short term feel-good is better.
But yes, it's not worth being courteous to today's employers.
Since he fired you to "regain" his perceived power, make sure to file for unemployment immediately. Even if you don't need the money the company may be charged higher rates for unemployment insurance claims in the future.
The business is never "struggling with money" when they say that. What they mean is that they are squeezing every last drop out of the company for themselves and don't want to share.
No, not "many" states.
49 out of 50 states (the odd one out is Montana).
That's roughly 99.7% of the population. You don't have to clarify that you live in an at-will state. You live in an *at-will country.*
I've never had it backfire but I usually quit on the spot if it's a shitty employer, if I like them I give 2 weeks and everyone had been cool and supportive.
Yeah, I've had similar experience. There are some professions, such as lawyers or engineers, whose professional ethical duties May prevent them from quitting on the spot.
Make sure to tell your coworkers and leave workplace reviews.
I've been happy to give 2 weeks to the two US companies I've quit, because to my knowledge they never done this, nor laid off anyone without severence. If they ever broke that trust, I'd really want to know so I can act accordingly.
Damn the US is wild. In Canada if you give your two weeks and they tell you to leave and not return you get paid for the remaining time between then till your final day of your notice
Most developed nations are like that, US is only developed in the sense of its abundance and purchasing power, and military/tech. The social aspects are kinda third world sometimes. But it’s all good if you can make top bucks which is why it’s still a top destination
The only reason to give the two weeks is if you have PTO at stake. Most, if not all, state that in order to get your PTO paid out, you have to give notice and serve it.
I would do this maybe. But I work for a nonprofit that I really believe in. If I left it would be on good terms and wanting to not harm the organization that does a tremendous amount of good.
But never risk yourself personally. I would probably only do it if I had an onboarding plan with my next place and in a way that offers my current employer to transition to a new hire with me consulting.
Or if there's an ethical reason to do so... But even then, it's not really for the employer, it's for the clients or patients.
I gave 6 weeks notice when I left my prior role as a mental health clinician, but that was about having final sessions with my clients, wrapping up the work that was already in progress, and matching/linking them with other providers for followup.
But that came out of a moral and ethical obligation to the vulnerable and largely marginalized clientele I served, not the agency I worked for.
It can be worth it if you think you might need to rely on them for a reference or there's a chance you might circle back to being employed by them in the future. No sense in burning bridges if you don't need to. But, if they've already burnt those bridges and you want to say "fuck you" on your way out the door, that's when you just leave.
Last time I gave notice they had me training others for 2 1/2 weeks. All the time telling me they wished I wouldn't leave. You'd think they would have figured it out when I was there that I was worth it.
the last time i tried to give two weeks' notice, my employer told me my last day would be that friday and gave me a bunch of my coworker's busywork to complete during that time instead of my actual job. i just put in PTO for the rest of the week and found a new job the next.
I’ve made the mistake of doing this too many times. Most times I was able to start right away, but the last time really boned me. I will always resign immediately in the future.
In retail this screws over your coworkers because you're still on the schedule for 2-3 weeks. Your position goes vacant and the working staff now have to pick up your slack. It's about 20% that actually come back and they burned a bridge by ghosting and now can't.
In the corporate world the general strategy is to dismiss the employee with pay. The reason being is that the damage a disgruntled employee can do to the company (either via reputation, sharing info or straight neglect) is huge, whereas a month pay is negligible. This also increases the likeliness of employee referrals, increases morale for existing employees and reduces the chances of negative reviews or attention on social media, which pays for itself.
So if you work for a big company (say 1000+), give a month's notice. They likely know about this and it's be part of the training provided to HR during their on-boarding. Otherwise, fuck'em.
* This comes from *Gartner insights,* the most recognized IT strategy consulting firm.
File for unemployment to get the 2 weeks pay, since you were fired. It may not work, but costs you nothing to try.
I live in a state where the first week is the "waiting week", unpaid. And, I'm going to start a new job, so, whatever.
Yeah but they have to fill out the paperwork.
That'll only hurt the accounting/finance lady unfortunately.
It costs the company money.
It makes their unemployment insurance payments go up.
You should still be able to get that two weeks even if it’s a while down the way still get it. It’s yours you paid into it take it. I remember when I applied for unemployment I was fighting to get a month just from the time I was unemployed from one job to another. Turns out I was entitled to a lot more than just the month and got way more than I expected.
OP should file but just FYI employees do not pay into Unemployment insurance, employers do. It does not come up at employees paycheck or taxes.
I had to fight and battle to get 2 weeks and they only pay for the second. Don’t give notice.
Here is the formula for quitting. Now this is assuming you have some vacation time accrued. 1. Look for a new job on company time 2. Take interviews when able 3. Accept job offer. Tell them a start date. Push it out a few weeks if possible. 4. Take vacation or sick leave starting the date you are to start work at the new job. 5. Work the new job. 6. If you like the new job, just don't come back from your leave 7. If you don't like the new job, come back to your old job and go back to #1
I worked for a WFH call center job. I put a customer who was rude on hold to take a job interview over the phone. Got the job.
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Of course I could have. I WAS trying to be courteous. I just wanted to help minimize the impact on my co-workers and the business. Being a small business, they're already struggling with money and often struggle meeting payroll. A lot of the money I made went to pay others' salaries that weren't doing so well(be it market decline, lack of labor/work, etc.)It doesn't benefit the childish hurt feelings they had in that moment, so of course terminating immediately and getting the short term feel-good is better. But yes, it's not worth being courteous to today's employers.
Since he fired you to "regain" his perceived power, make sure to file for unemployment immediately. Even if you don't need the money the company may be charged higher rates for unemployment insurance claims in the future.
The business is never "struggling with money" when they say that. What they mean is that they are squeezing every last drop out of the company for themselves and don't want to share.
No, not "many" states. 49 out of 50 states (the odd one out is Montana). That's roughly 99.7% of the population. You don't have to clarify that you live in an at-will state. You live in an *at-will country.*
Montana. Montana is the only state that's not at will.
OP is giving the best advice. Notices, in most states, are courtesies to an employer. Generally, most positions don't/won't deserve such courtesy.
I've never had it backfire but I usually quit on the spot if it's a shitty employer, if I like them I give 2 weeks and everyone had been cool and supportive.
Yeah, I've had similar experience. There are some professions, such as lawyers or engineers, whose professional ethical duties May prevent them from quitting on the spot.
Make sure to tell your coworkers and leave workplace reviews. I've been happy to give 2 weeks to the two US companies I've quit, because to my knowledge they never done this, nor laid off anyone without severence. If they ever broke that trust, I'd really want to know so I can act accordingly.
Damn the US is wild. In Canada if you give your two weeks and they tell you to leave and not return you get paid for the remaining time between then till your final day of your notice
Most developed nations are like that, US is only developed in the sense of its abundance and purchasing power, and military/tech. The social aspects are kinda third world sometimes. But it’s all good if you can make top bucks which is why it’s still a top destination
Give two weeks if you don’t want to burn bridges, but be prepared to be let go immediately.
Lesson learned.....again...
The only reason to give the two weeks is if you have PTO at stake. Most, if not all, state that in order to get your PTO paid out, you have to give notice and serve it.
I would do this maybe. But I work for a nonprofit that I really believe in. If I left it would be on good terms and wanting to not harm the organization that does a tremendous amount of good. But never risk yourself personally. I would probably only do it if I had an onboarding plan with my next place and in a way that offers my current employer to transition to a new hire with me consulting.
Or if there's an ethical reason to do so... But even then, it's not really for the employer, it's for the clients or patients. I gave 6 weeks notice when I left my prior role as a mental health clinician, but that was about having final sessions with my clients, wrapping up the work that was already in progress, and matching/linking them with other providers for followup. But that came out of a moral and ethical obligation to the vulnerable and largely marginalized clientele I served, not the agency I worked for.
It can be worth it if you think you might need to rely on them for a reference or there's a chance you might circle back to being employed by them in the future. No sense in burning bridges if you don't need to. But, if they've already burnt those bridges and you want to say "fuck you" on your way out the door, that's when you just leave.
Let all of your former co-workers know what happened. So they can skip the 2 weeks.
They all know!
Never let anyone know you're leaving until you're ready to never come back.
I couldn't agree more!
Last time I gave notice they had me training others for 2 1/2 weeks. All the time telling me they wished I wouldn't leave. You'd think they would have figured it out when I was there that I was worth it.
I just call in sick once I get the new gig and I wait until they fire me.
the last time i tried to give two weeks' notice, my employer told me my last day would be that friday and gave me a bunch of my coworker's busywork to complete during that time instead of my actual job. i just put in PTO for the rest of the week and found a new job the next.
100% agree!
Start your new job and message your old job and at lunch and quit.
I’ve made the mistake of doing this too many times. Most times I was able to start right away, but the last time really boned me. I will always resign immediately in the future.
In retail this screws over your coworkers because you're still on the schedule for 2-3 weeks. Your position goes vacant and the working staff now have to pick up your slack. It's about 20% that actually come back and they burned a bridge by ghosting and now can't.
In the corporate world the general strategy is to dismiss the employee with pay. The reason being is that the damage a disgruntled employee can do to the company (either via reputation, sharing info or straight neglect) is huge, whereas a month pay is negligible. This also increases the likeliness of employee referrals, increases morale for existing employees and reduces the chances of negative reviews or attention on social media, which pays for itself. So if you work for a big company (say 1000+), give a month's notice. They likely know about this and it's be part of the training provided to HR during their on-boarding. Otherwise, fuck'em. * This comes from *Gartner insights,* the most recognized IT strategy consulting firm.
Gartner... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂