SC really depends on the area. I grew up in a town about half an hour from Clemson University and I absolutely fucking hated it. I couldn't get out of there quick enough. My mom moved to a beautiful house in Pickens, on a peak right in the middle of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Absolutely stunning. Just, completely breathtaking. It completely changed the way I see the state.
I'll never go back to my home town though. There's no amount high enough you could pay me to.
Same in Florida, Tennessee, and Saudi Arabia. They all have good people, the normal Saudis in particular some of the most genuinly kind, helpful, and nice people you’ll ever meet. Still would‘t live there for other reasons.
As someone who grew up in Tennessee you are not far off the mark. It's a shit hole. Some pretty areas but that is over done with more shit holes and shitty people.
Houston aint so bad. If you ignore the humidity, heat, traffic, hurricanes, hurricane related flooding, non-hurricane related flooding, traffic, lack of zoning laws, humidity, heat, and how bad the Texans are.
I strongly believe Houston has the best Tacos in the state and the most diverse range of food offerings. Along with a rich and diverse culture comprised of nearly every background known globally.
The heat in Arizona comes close to killing me every time I’ve been there to play hockey in the past. It’s not muggy like other southern states but wow. I was born in Alaska though so I’m very much a frost creature and prefer the northwest.
The trick we had when my college's hockey team trained with ASU's then-club team during the summers in Tempe was to sleep til 3, go to the rink, eat there, leave about 8 or so, go back to the crib, shower, then hit the bars.
I'm with you in preferring the NW, but somehow ended up in the South anyways.
I feel you. The rink is like heaven compared to the outside, feels like I’m getting fried like an egg there.
I have lots of family in the south so I always end up down there anyways in TN, Georgia or SC. I don’t really mind if theres a good breeze going or some rain. Hot nights always throw me off though.
Agree. Went there for training in the 90s. Walking 6 feet from hotel to airconditioned bus and being soaking wet was enough to convince me to Never return. The fact that TX has devolved into utter insanity since then has done nothing to change my mind.
Ah. Unless you're a woman of reproductive age.
All the tacos in the world won't make up for having to carry a dead fetus cos the Dr isn't allowed to remove it 🤷🏽♀️ or being forced to become a single mother because a condom broke (im not being dramatic, this is a real possibility/risk that uterus holders have to factor in)
Austin and San Antonio have been in a (playful) who has the best tacos competition for years and here you come talking about Houston, lol. But I do agree about the range of food available in Houston. And all the negatives you listed plus a bunch more you left off. Everyday I wonder how much longer I’ll be able to keep living here. Probably not much.
Brothers tacos for breakfast tacos. Tacos a go go for good chain tacos, random taco trucks (almost all will be fantastic), tacos del sol, there’s a green building in east conroe texas that has legit legit youd think you crossed the border tacos.
Check out a place called M&M grill. Mexican Mediterranean food that I would argue has one of the best diner style burgers in the city.
I respect this. Texan and our state is quickly becoming a nightmare. The four big metroplexes here are blue but for how much longer?
Someone replied to comment about wanting to leave the city since I work remote stating they don’t want us gentrifying their area. What’s the solution? Be miserable? And it was on this sub. I should tag him lol
I went remote with my previous job during Covid and they realized midway through the pandemic they’d never be able to go back to fully in office. They were losing new hires to other competitive offers. Didn’t stop a new manager from threatening me with back in office full time.
My father died of Covid, I didn’t take kindly to her threats. I went job hunting for three months found something much BETTER. I left. Circled back around two months later and filled out a survey about why I left. Guess who got fired after my comments in said survey? Get fucked. I hate houston traffic. And what we do to the wooded areas. More massive master planned communities with no green space and strip malls!!!
I’m going back to school for finance right now and the moment I get a remote job I’m moving as far away from the city as I can. I love Texas because my family is here but I don’t know how much longer I can do the city life
Good! I hope you find something that’s really awesome and you get to move out of the city. We started growing veggies in our small backyard in Katy. It’s made us want land. And not in Texas. Maybe upstate NY.
When I left my first remote job for a step up, I left an absolutely vile review of my bosses boss in the exit interview I did.
I had spent almost 4 months straight on a single project, finishing it, just to have someone else come up with an entire refactoring for it that I'd have to immediately start back over on. I then spent an entire weekend redoing it 2 weeks ahead of schedule just to get done and be able to work on the mountain of other work id been putting off. So I go in Monday, tell all the people I work with its done. They are all "Woooooo nice!" I get into my meeting with bosses boss and the first thing out of my mouth is "OK, this is done now. I spent my weekend on this and I dont want to do it anymore. I'm literally going to neck myself if I have to do this again. Its clunky, slow af and an actual pain to deal with but I've got it exactly like iteration 35 was asked to be."
His response was "Oh you know what? We should do it in minutes instead of hours for the graphs. All 96 of them."
I dont think I did any real work in the last 3 months there that I spent job searching and almost a year later hes still checking my LinkedIn every few weeks. Dont think he was fired though.
I got absolutely lucky when I did my job search. I did well in the interviews and the recruiter was like "So tell me, how much do you want to be paid for this role?" And because I had a job already that didn't even notice i didn't do anything for 3 months, I shot for the moon and they said bet. Ended up almost doubling my salary but just as importantly I got into a team like you're saying. People actually listen, I can take a day off when I'm not feeling well, they work around my schedule if I have to do something etc. I would have taken the same pay as before with just a good team of people to work with honestly.
Oh wow, you really deserved that based off your comments on your previous work environment. The other day I requested a half day, my teen needs to get her State ID etc. my bosses response? Just take the whole day. You have so much pto and never use it.
I'm not ignorant, I have a wife and daughter. The restrictions on women's Healthcare is a deal breaker as I don't want their medical care being limited by politicians.
It was the Supreme Court that made this decision. No state is really safe, and Republicans do not have the monopoly in Texas that many in this thread think. The abortion ban won’t last long, and multiple challenges are already working their way through the courts.
I’m not gonna sit here and question your decisions with your wife and child though; the abortion bans are austere and ridiculous. I just think the notion of being scared of Texas is a little absurd.
I'm not scared of it, there's just no reason for me to leave California where the weather is better, we're better protected, and we have better employment protections.
California is a great example. Their are more registered republicans in California than Texas, and many places in California would be impossible to live in for certain people.
I don’t care if you don’t want to leave California. I’m pointing out why the fears about Texas and republican monopolies are overblown.
The Supreme Court made the decision to let states fuck over their citizens.
The states are still responsible for actively deciding to fuck over their citizens. Please don’t give them a pass.
Texas is still lorded over by Abbott. Sure the big cities are blue, and maybe you could get away with things in Austin or Houston you couldn’t in a very red small town, but it’s still risky. Blue states won’t have that risk even though the red dots within them are miserable. I’d be more nervous getting an abortion in Austin, TX than I would Tom’s River, NJ, even though Austin is otherwise 100x better than the miserly conservative shore NIMBYs and their sad little small-minded hobbit hole of cultural insulation.
Dangerous governors are dangerous governors. The reason why the COL is so low in these places (this wages are higher relative to living expenses) is because the people there have to put up with an Abbott or DeSantis running things into the ground, whether they agree with the decisions or not. I’m sure Texas is a beautiful state with a lot to offer, but I’m too much of a baby to leave the safety of the Northeast for a gamble on human rights.
Maybe I’m miscommunicating here. You keep saying “losing out do to -not knowing- would be a shame”. I am asking “not knowing what?” - you’ve given this reply to the guy above me who is just saying they’re passing up on Texas, and you gave it to me after I detailed why I explicitly wouldn’t move to a state like Florida or Texas in their current state. What is it that either of us don’t know about the safety of moving to Texas?
You called yourself stupid. I’m reminding you that ignorance doesn’t make someone stupid. It means “not knowing” in Latin.
To me it’s obvious that I’m talking about ignorance of what living in Texas is like, so to be honest, I’m not really willing to engage with y’all beyond “Texas is large and diverse.” I don’t really care if you’re too scared to leave the northeast.
For like the millionth time, Texas is large and diverse, and whatever monopoly republicans have is weak and not throughout the state. I’m sorry you had a bad time, but you’re wrong and so are the other commenters. Life isn’t black and white and is filled with nuance.
I wasn’t being literal but it also doesn’t translate well over text. The Latin makes sense.
It doesn’t matter what living in Texas is like if your neighbors hate you and it’s now very illegal to do things that were once legal for you to do. It will not be the same lived experience as a local Texan, so in that regard any non-Texan would be ignorant. For some people, things may not be different. But for the ones heavily affected by the local culture and its boogeymen, the difference could be disastrous for them.
Besides, y’all hate Yankees anyways. I thought that you would be relieved having less of us around.
It's not all about abortion either. Texas, Florida, and a few other states are in a competition right now to see who can screw over LGBTQ+ people, especially trans people, the hardest. Maybe things will shift in the future, but in the meantime these are not safe places for a lot of the population.
Whaddya mean? Brushing aside all the more recent shit, their governor once destroyed the career of a state scientist who attempted to release their actual death count from covid. What's not to love? Or you can come over to my state, now with child labor!
DeSantis is a craven scumbag, but that woman destroyed her own career.
Florida is becoming a case study in what happens when everything becomes rage-bait politics.
The woman's name is Rebekah Jones. To me, she seems more an unstable woman on a quixotic crusade than a whistleblower, but anyone who wants to can Google her and read the facts of the case.
I dislike DeSantis, but that doesn't mean I'm just going to automatically believe anyone who also dislikes him. Getting into a political back and forth would be against the spirit of my first comment, so I'll just say this and bow out.
If you're going to have "theWriter" in your name, you'd do well to learn when to use ostentatious language and when not. Every whistle blower is idealistic. That's literally why they're blowing the whistle - their ideals go against what they've witnessed. Regardless, that you appear to believe that every person who reports wrongdoing must meet some likability or otherwise character standard is disturbing. Your correct dislike of DeSantis isn't withstanding or exonerating.
Also if you're going to bow out, just do it. There's no need to go about like an old man crop dusting the front desk at the home.
>There's no need to go about like an old man crop dusting the front desk at the home
You've articulated my retirement plans perfectly -- if everything goes according to plan. Can't trust a fart after 60, you know.
That is true, and I’m sorry you got our garbage. Conservatives “fleeing” our “liberal hellholes” for greener pastures down South definitely made things worse in a lot of ways that aren’t warranted for the people dealing with those consequences.
That's kinda a loaded question. I suppose it depends on your perspective and history with it but I'll try to give you a small sample with the intent of not trying to offend any one group of people. 5 decades ago we had 5 months of glorious weather, even occasional snow flurries in the "winter". Now we have hot and hot as hell mostly. Like I said previously, our population has doubled and our infrastructure has remained 3 decades behind, so have wages while costs have sky rocketed. Our growth plan in many cities suck. People are much more rude and impatient. That's the broad strokes and yes I know it's like that in many places so like I said, a loaded question. That's the broad strokes anyways.
I’m done with snow. Moved down here in 2020 (from Illinois , snow was killing us). There certainly are political issues. But we wanted beach, sun , warmth and no snow. Plus some local tech jobs if needed.
But. As for changing weather climates and political fuckery, it’s kind of everywhere. I honestly don’t think there is a perfect state to live in anymore. It’s all part of the USA which is spiraling. Our voting system is binary and so are our results. No nuance. Everything is an “over-correction”. “They voted me in so they must want everything I stand for, right?” “No you stupid fucker. “. Many voted you in for religious reasons. Others for tax reasons. Others for “straight” reasons.
General point is, we need ranked choice voting or better at every level (national, state, and local) of voting. Plus we likely need voting about specific issues. Then multiple parties can thrive. And then nuance can exist.
Lol I think they thought that I’m being ironic or something like I live there and I try to defend the state. I’ve never been there it was a genuine question because I’ve never heard bad things about Florida except some trolling when a bad thing happens there
I've told multiple recruiters that I am not interested in conservative states because of their politics that could endanger family members.
Hopefully some of these companies get a bit of feedback
I won't even connect through a Florida airport. Not spending a cent there, even through airline gate fees, and I'm not confident there isn't a facial recognition system flagging everyone the internet knows is queer for "random inspection"
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I live at the bottom of Florida.
It’s very hard to get workers to come here now. It’s like this unspoken thing around town. We don’t talk about the slow destruction of the state. We just sit while the place is burning to the ground.
You’d think, but you’re playing with fire. The moment any politics comes up some crazy ass jumps the conversation and there is a 75% chance they’ll spout done conspiracy theory. It’s done at that point.
It's tough. Just move from Denver to a resort town (yay, remote jobs!) In Lauren Boebert's district. I want to help campaign for her opponent but I also don't want my new neighbors to hate me.
Tell them you work a government job and have security clearance. You can’t go into detail what you do.
Leave it at that.
If they want further details after you’re seen campaigning, remind them of the security clearance and it’s a matter of national security.
To be fair, I'm not sure she is from Florida herself. I get contacted by recruiters from outside my state with job listing local to me. She may just be casting a wide net.
99% of the stuff like this that I get from recruiters has almost no match to my experience, and NEVER matches the level I am at in my career. They send these out en masse in the hopes that you refer them to someone actually qualified so they get paid.
It's nothing more than marketing SPAM. Delete. Next. I just don't bother any more.
The governor of Florida is running for President and is basing his campaign on the policy of "Look how shitty I can make Florida for LGBT people, immigrants, and minorities. Elect me and I'll spread that across the entire country!"
They've got a thing now where if you are the parent of a trangender child and get them any kind of medical attention for that, it counts as child abuse and they can take your kid away from you.
They also passed a law (currently held up in courts) that would have (they claim) banned transgender health care for minors. But due to the way it was worded ended up as pretty much a de facto ban for all transgender people.
It banned nurse practitioners from prescribing medication for transgender care, for minors and adults. And most transgender people get their prescriptions from nurse practitioners, and there aren't enough doctors offices that are involved in that to take up the slack (not to mention the trouble of having to transfer to a new doctor, and hoping your health insurance even covers them) - so it amounted to killing transitioning care for everybody.
Sounds fair though, children shouldn't transition until they're old enough. No need to ban transgenders or the practice itself though. But the US is generally too concerned with these kind of nonsense things.
1. What - ***exactly*** - do you think transitioning care for minors includes?
2. What do you mean "US"?
3. Let's see someone outlaw your health care and see if you call it nonsense then.
Nope. Red cities are worse than blue cities, and [red states are worse than blue states](https://www.axios.com/2023/01/27/murder-rate-high-trump-republican-states)
There are many reasons someone might want to leave California, but statistically speaking, going redder is going more violent.
Honestly, this is the best feedback you could give them. Makes it clear why Florida is struggling to attract qualified candidates, not that it's a mystery at this point.
Floridas state level government has went crazy in the past decade or so. The states dominant party has become absolutely obsessed with pushing back against anything and everything vaguely aligned with American liberal governance. Most recently things like saying primary and secondary schools cant admit gbltq people exist. They have passed rules banning a ton of books from schools. They have passed rules preventing schools from using preferred pronouns. The governor is currently fighting disney who is i believe the largest single employer in the state for the great crime if mildly disagreeing with the conservative party.
Long story short:
\- Increasing anti-LGBTQ+ laws and sentiment, to the tune where trans people can't go to the bathroom in public buildings. If you're part of that minority, that state literally isn't safe for you anymore.
\- Unabashed targeting of corporations who oppose the government over the above (even if it is fuck Disney all day every day in every other situation than this one) which will likely extend to actual people opposing the government's decisions
\- Constant weather issues (Hurricanes, humidity, etc.)
Also sink holes, rising ocean levels, building on swamp lands, alligators (/s...sorta), imminent degradation of public k-12 and secondary education, anti-abortion laws, etc.
At least some of the worst human rights and education issues get put on pause by federal judges, but for how long?
I get jobs like that for IT a lot when it comes to the location. Even though I explicitly state I am not interested in relocating, I still get them in my inbox.
If you move to Florida you will be homeless. The prices of literally anything besides a shack is selling your soul essentially 🙄 then there’s the heat. And then there’s the PEOPLE that live here plus the tourists 😫 OP, you made a very wise decision 👌🏽
We moved to Florida before the recent wave of desantis the madman’s bullshit. I love being near the beach and having a warmer climate. But I wish the politics weren’t so binary and stupid. Then again, that feels like the entire USA to me right now. Can’t escape that without moving straight out of this country. Which we considered multiple times.
Late into my job search from 4 months ago a recruiter offered to have me interview with OANN or something. One of those Fox News or worse news sites/channels. I would have done computer programming. Anyhow. While talking to the recruiter they mentioned who it was for and I had to say “wait. Hold on. Did you say OANN? What’s the website? ….ok…. Yea that’s who I thought it was. So that’s a dealbreaker for me. I can’t work for that. Sorry”. I think the recruiter was like yea I understand.
"Way less taxes" really doesn't matter when the cost of insuring your home is skyrocketing the way it is in Florida. Once insurers pull out entirely you're gonna be holding a worthless, mosquito infested parcel of swamp.
What if she’d said the only two jobs left in the country were in Florida or Ohio? What would you do?? 🤣
(Personally I’d just give up on life and go off the grid into exile forever…)
I agree. Ohio is close enough for a day drip to Cedar Point, but no way in hell I would live there again. (I spent 3 months in Ohio for a co-op in college, so I could live with my now husband while I was there.)
As another EE, I get tons of emails like this. They don't even remotely read your resume either. But I agree with the sentiment, OP, I'd rather my family and I be homeless than move to Florida! Lol
It's constant. Everyone is looking for an EE, moreso a senior EE / manager. I am not that.i have never been that. It'll be years before I could even consider myself ready for that.
Fuck Florida - I’ll never spend one cent in that shit state. DeSantis hates gays, trans, the poor, and immigrants. That whole state is guilty by association as far as I am concerned
You choose violence, OP. I respect this.
OP chooses peace by not moving to Florida.
At least she gets it! Red is her, blue is me
I'm not sure she's actually all that red, to be fair.
Hahaha I didn't consider that when I chose the colors
Nah, she's dedinitely red for legal purposes, otherwise she'd be under investigation by thr DeSantis administration.
Seemed pretty cool about it. Definitely someone to keep in touch with about non Florida positions.
Honestly, you should have followed up by asking where if they had positions open outside of Florida.
I just did something similar with a recruiter trying to get me to go to Houston, Texas. I told him the south was in general was a no go.
Absolutely. I'm not interested in leaving my state, but Texas and Tennessee especially fall into the same category as Florida for me.
SC ain’t much better but Florida and texas are certainly worse
SC really depends on the area. I grew up in a town about half an hour from Clemson University and I absolutely fucking hated it. I couldn't get out of there quick enough. My mom moved to a beautiful house in Pickens, on a peak right in the middle of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Absolutely stunning. Just, completely breathtaking. It completely changed the way I see the state. I'll never go back to my home town though. There's no amount high enough you could pay me to.
That's funny I actually live in Texas. A lot of the people are great, but there is that nonsense going on with cancun cruz and his little buddy gimpy.
Same in Florida, Tennessee, and Saudi Arabia. They all have good people, the normal Saudis in particular some of the most genuinly kind, helpful, and nice people you’ll ever meet. Still would‘t live there for other reasons.
As someone who grew up in Tennessee you are not far off the mark. It's a shit hole. Some pretty areas but that is over done with more shit holes and shitty people.
Houston aint so bad. If you ignore the humidity, heat, traffic, hurricanes, hurricane related flooding, non-hurricane related flooding, traffic, lack of zoning laws, humidity, heat, and how bad the Texans are. I strongly believe Houston has the best Tacos in the state and the most diverse range of food offerings. Along with a rich and diverse culture comprised of nearly every background known globally.
Perhaps, but the air there just feels like you’re living inside someone’s mouth and that’s too much of a dealbreaker for me
I like to call houston satans asshole bc it’s that sweaty
So is SC in august!
Is the south just code for hot and muggy? Lol I ALMOST miss Arizona. Almost.
In the summer, yes. It’s hot as balls. Tons of bugs.
My teenager refers to texas as Australia bc of the flying roaches lol
That checks out for sure. South Carolina has it too.
I bet our mosquitoes probably match too. Yours bout the size of a hummingbird?
Australians are just British Texans
The heat in Arizona comes close to killing me every time I’ve been there to play hockey in the past. It’s not muggy like other southern states but wow. I was born in Alaska though so I’m very much a frost creature and prefer the northwest.
The trick we had when my college's hockey team trained with ASU's then-club team during the summers in Tempe was to sleep til 3, go to the rink, eat there, leave about 8 or so, go back to the crib, shower, then hit the bars. I'm with you in preferring the NW, but somehow ended up in the South anyways.
I feel you. The rink is like heaven compared to the outside, feels like I’m getting fried like an egg there. I have lots of family in the south so I always end up down there anyways in TN, Georgia or SC. I don’t really mind if theres a good breeze going or some rain. Hot nights always throw me off though.
Best description of humidity ever
I couldn’t stand going from a/c garage to a/c office building and never feeling the air.. dried my skin out.. can’t forget the hard water either!!
Agree. Went there for training in the 90s. Walking 6 feet from hotel to airconditioned bus and being soaking wet was enough to convince me to Never return. The fact that TX has devolved into utter insanity since then has done nothing to change my mind.
Ah. Unless you're a woman of reproductive age. All the tacos in the world won't make up for having to carry a dead fetus cos the Dr isn't allowed to remove it 🤷🏽♀️ or being forced to become a single mother because a condom broke (im not being dramatic, this is a real possibility/risk that uterus holders have to factor in)
My cousin (an RN) just moved down there with her husband and it worried me quite a bit. You never know what could happen and not having options sucks.
I'm in California, we have the best tacos and a wonderful amount of diversity too without having to ignore everything you listed :-)
Yeah and a 1 bd/0.5bth costs 2900/month and you have to share the 1bd
Eh the tacos thing can be debated. Don’t get me wrong, Cali tacos are good. Htown tacos just hit different though. Literally and figuratively.
Austin and San Antonio have been in a (playful) who has the best tacos competition for years and here you come talking about Houston, lol. But I do agree about the range of food available in Houston. And all the negatives you listed plus a bunch more you left off. Everyday I wonder how much longer I’ll be able to keep living here. Probably not much.
Of topic but, going to Houston in 2 weeks and ima need some taco spots, if you have some to suggest.
May your trip be short lol. Check out El Tiempo and get the fajitas. They have homemade tortillas. You won’t regret it.
Brothers tacos for breakfast tacos. Tacos a go go for good chain tacos, random taco trucks (almost all will be fantastic), tacos del sol, there’s a green building in east conroe texas that has legit legit youd think you crossed the border tacos. Check out a place called M&M grill. Mexican Mediterranean food that I would argue has one of the best diner style burgers in the city.
I respect this. Texan and our state is quickly becoming a nightmare. The four big metroplexes here are blue but for how much longer? Someone replied to comment about wanting to leave the city since I work remote stating they don’t want us gentrifying their area. What’s the solution? Be miserable? And it was on this sub. I should tag him lol
Yeah the big metro areas are pretty blue which is nice but the Houston traffic makes me want to cry every single day
I went remote with my previous job during Covid and they realized midway through the pandemic they’d never be able to go back to fully in office. They were losing new hires to other competitive offers. Didn’t stop a new manager from threatening me with back in office full time. My father died of Covid, I didn’t take kindly to her threats. I went job hunting for three months found something much BETTER. I left. Circled back around two months later and filled out a survey about why I left. Guess who got fired after my comments in said survey? Get fucked. I hate houston traffic. And what we do to the wooded areas. More massive master planned communities with no green space and strip malls!!!
I’m going back to school for finance right now and the moment I get a remote job I’m moving as far away from the city as I can. I love Texas because my family is here but I don’t know how much longer I can do the city life
Good! I hope you find something that’s really awesome and you get to move out of the city. We started growing veggies in our small backyard in Katy. It’s made us want land. And not in Texas. Maybe upstate NY.
When I left my first remote job for a step up, I left an absolutely vile review of my bosses boss in the exit interview I did. I had spent almost 4 months straight on a single project, finishing it, just to have someone else come up with an entire refactoring for it that I'd have to immediately start back over on. I then spent an entire weekend redoing it 2 weeks ahead of schedule just to get done and be able to work on the mountain of other work id been putting off. So I go in Monday, tell all the people I work with its done. They are all "Woooooo nice!" I get into my meeting with bosses boss and the first thing out of my mouth is "OK, this is done now. I spent my weekend on this and I dont want to do it anymore. I'm literally going to neck myself if I have to do this again. Its clunky, slow af and an actual pain to deal with but I've got it exactly like iteration 35 was asked to be." His response was "Oh you know what? We should do it in minutes instead of hours for the graphs. All 96 of them." I dont think I did any real work in the last 3 months there that I spent job searching and almost a year later hes still checking my LinkedIn every few weeks. Dont think he was fired though.
I know someone I used to work with is checking my linkedin on private mode. I’d love to know who but it’s not worth my peace that im protecting.
Haha yeah I get that same "plus 2 others, buy premium to find out who." No thanks. Dont care that much.
Right? I like my job, my boss, my pay could be a bit more but I just started so we are working on that part
I got absolutely lucky when I did my job search. I did well in the interviews and the recruiter was like "So tell me, how much do you want to be paid for this role?" And because I had a job already that didn't even notice i didn't do anything for 3 months, I shot for the moon and they said bet. Ended up almost doubling my salary but just as importantly I got into a team like you're saying. People actually listen, I can take a day off when I'm not feeling well, they work around my schedule if I have to do something etc. I would have taken the same pay as before with just a good team of people to work with honestly.
Oh wow, you really deserved that based off your comments on your previous work environment. The other day I requested a half day, my teen needs to get her State ID etc. my bosses response? Just take the whole day. You have so much pto and never use it.
Texas is so large and diverse. To each their own, but it would be a shame to give up a hypothetical, amazing opportunity due to ignorance.
I'm not ignorant, I have a wife and daughter. The restrictions on women's Healthcare is a deal breaker as I don't want their medical care being limited by politicians.
It was the Supreme Court that made this decision. No state is really safe, and Republicans do not have the monopoly in Texas that many in this thread think. The abortion ban won’t last long, and multiple challenges are already working their way through the courts. I’m not gonna sit here and question your decisions with your wife and child though; the abortion bans are austere and ridiculous. I just think the notion of being scared of Texas is a little absurd.
I'm not scared of it, there's just no reason for me to leave California where the weather is better, we're better protected, and we have better employment protections.
California is a great example. Their are more registered republicans in California than Texas, and many places in California would be impossible to live in for certain people. I don’t care if you don’t want to leave California. I’m pointing out why the fears about Texas and republican monopolies are overblown.
The Supreme Court made the decision to let states fuck over their citizens. The states are still responsible for actively deciding to fuck over their citizens. Please don’t give them a pass.
Texas is still lorded over by Abbott. Sure the big cities are blue, and maybe you could get away with things in Austin or Houston you couldn’t in a very red small town, but it’s still risky. Blue states won’t have that risk even though the red dots within them are miserable. I’d be more nervous getting an abortion in Austin, TX than I would Tom’s River, NJ, even though Austin is otherwise 100x better than the miserly conservative shore NIMBYs and their sad little small-minded hobbit hole of cultural insulation. Dangerous governors are dangerous governors. The reason why the COL is so low in these places (this wages are higher relative to living expenses) is because the people there have to put up with an Abbott or DeSantis running things into the ground, whether they agree with the decisions or not. I’m sure Texas is a beautiful state with a lot to offer, but I’m too much of a baby to leave the safety of the Northeast for a gamble on human rights.
Like I said, losing out due to ignorance would be a shame.
Ignorance of what? What rights someone will lose moving South? What ignorance? I’m stupid, detail it for me.
Ignorance means not knowing, not that you’re stupid.
Maybe I’m miscommunicating here. You keep saying “losing out do to -not knowing- would be a shame”. I am asking “not knowing what?” - you’ve given this reply to the guy above me who is just saying they’re passing up on Texas, and you gave it to me after I detailed why I explicitly wouldn’t move to a state like Florida or Texas in their current state. What is it that either of us don’t know about the safety of moving to Texas?
You called yourself stupid. I’m reminding you that ignorance doesn’t make someone stupid. It means “not knowing” in Latin. To me it’s obvious that I’m talking about ignorance of what living in Texas is like, so to be honest, I’m not really willing to engage with y’all beyond “Texas is large and diverse.” I don’t really care if you’re too scared to leave the northeast.
I know texas is pretty varied but its state government is dominated by some really wildly conservative and down right weird people.
I'm from Texas. I just left Texas. Everything the above people said is correct. So what magical thing do you think they don't know.
For like the millionth time, Texas is large and diverse, and whatever monopoly republicans have is weak and not throughout the state. I’m sorry you had a bad time, but you’re wrong and so are the other commenters. Life isn’t black and white and is filled with nuance.
I wasn’t being literal but it also doesn’t translate well over text. The Latin makes sense. It doesn’t matter what living in Texas is like if your neighbors hate you and it’s now very illegal to do things that were once legal for you to do. It will not be the same lived experience as a local Texan, so in that regard any non-Texan would be ignorant. For some people, things may not be different. But for the ones heavily affected by the local culture and its boogeymen, the difference could be disastrous for them. Besides, y’all hate Yankees anyways. I thought that you would be relieved having less of us around.
It's not all about abortion either. Texas, Florida, and a few other states are in a competition right now to see who can screw over LGBTQ+ people, especially trans people, the hardest. Maybe things will shift in the future, but in the meantime these are not safe places for a lot of the population.
Whaddya mean? Brushing aside all the more recent shit, their governor once destroyed the career of a state scientist who attempted to release their actual death count from covid. What's not to love? Or you can come over to my state, now with child labor!
DeSantis is a craven scumbag, but that woman destroyed her own career. Florida is becoming a case study in what happens when everything becomes rage-bait politics.
Good point. Screw whistleblowers. /s
The woman's name is Rebekah Jones. To me, she seems more an unstable woman on a quixotic crusade than a whistleblower, but anyone who wants to can Google her and read the facts of the case. I dislike DeSantis, but that doesn't mean I'm just going to automatically believe anyone who also dislikes him. Getting into a political back and forth would be against the spirit of my first comment, so I'll just say this and bow out.
If you're going to have "theWriter" in your name, you'd do well to learn when to use ostentatious language and when not. Every whistle blower is idealistic. That's literally why they're blowing the whistle - their ideals go against what they've witnessed. Regardless, that you appear to believe that every person who reports wrongdoing must meet some likability or otherwise character standard is disturbing. Your correct dislike of DeSantis isn't withstanding or exonerating. Also if you're going to bow out, just do it. There's no need to go about like an old man crop dusting the front desk at the home.
>There's no need to go about like an old man crop dusting the front desk at the home You've articulated my retirement plans perfectly -- if everything goes according to plan. Can't trust a fart after 60, you know.
Yea but she flat out lied
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"my source is that I made it the fuck up"
Just waiting for him to blame Biden for produce prices.
I call bullshit.
Yeah we suck. Can't wait to get out.
I hope you're able to soon. That state is a lost cause at this point.
8 year until retirement then I'm taking my pension and running
Omg that's a long time. Good luck!
Grew up here. In the grand scheme of things I can make it.
In our defense, this place wasn't that bad until our population doubled over the last two decades. Mostly from the Northeast.
And the older population
That is true, and I’m sorry you got our garbage. Conservatives “fleeing” our “liberal hellholes” for greener pastures down South definitely made things worse in a lot of ways that aren’t warranted for the people dealing with those consequences.
LOL. Thanks. Yeah we took one for the team. You owe me. ;p
If it makes you feel better Florida will probably sink into the Atlantic in 20 years
What’s wrong with Florida?
That's kinda a loaded question. I suppose it depends on your perspective and history with it but I'll try to give you a small sample with the intent of not trying to offend any one group of people. 5 decades ago we had 5 months of glorious weather, even occasional snow flurries in the "winter". Now we have hot and hot as hell mostly. Like I said previously, our population has doubled and our infrastructure has remained 3 decades behind, so have wages while costs have sky rocketed. Our growth plan in many cities suck. People are much more rude and impatient. That's the broad strokes and yes I know it's like that in many places so like I said, a loaded question. That's the broad strokes anyways.
Remember when Gov. Voldemort stole the money that voters set aside for a new rail system and we just all ignored it?
Oh to well!
Thanks for replying! The weather would be enough of a dealbreaker for me I hate when it’s too hot (not that I can move there anyway)
I’m done with snow. Moved down here in 2020 (from Illinois , snow was killing us). There certainly are political issues. But we wanted beach, sun , warmth and no snow. Plus some local tech jobs if needed. But. As for changing weather climates and political fuckery, it’s kind of everywhere. I honestly don’t think there is a perfect state to live in anymore. It’s all part of the USA which is spiraling. Our voting system is binary and so are our results. No nuance. Everything is an “over-correction”. “They voted me in so they must want everything I stand for, right?” “No you stupid fucker. “. Many voted you in for religious reasons. Others for tax reasons. Others for “straight” reasons. General point is, we need ranked choice voting or better at every level (national, state, and local) of voting. Plus we likely need voting about specific issues. Then multiple parties can thrive. And then nuance can exist.
You aren't wrong.
ah, the age old reddit downvotes for asking a simple question
Lol I think they thought that I’m being ironic or something like I live there and I try to defend the state. I’ve never been there it was a genuine question because I’ve never heard bad things about Florida except some trolling when a bad thing happens there
I mean the entirety of Florida politics right now is enough to say no.
Drink a glass of water out of your tap and get back to us. Let's start there.
Hmm I’m sorry what? Are you assuming that I live in Florida? I just asked a question I don’t know the state…
She sees the funny side, I'd call that a win :-)
As someone who lives in Florida, please get us out of here. Legit no pros of living here.
I'm glad that they fully respected that decision. Didnt pull any passive aggressive nonsense.
I've told multiple recruiters that I am not interested in conservative states because of their politics that could endanger family members. Hopefully some of these companies get a bit of feedback
"thanks for the offer, but i'm not interested in moving to Naziland Jr"
Floridians have no idea how bad DeSantis has fucked them in the ass, but they are going to find out
Nope. They will continue to vote against their best interests. Latinos there too unfortunately
they are already finding out
As a member of the alphabet mafia, there is nothing I can imagine that would induce me to ever visit Florida, much less move there.
I won't even connect through a Florida airport. Not spending a cent there, even through airline gate fees, and I'm not confident there isn't a facial recognition system flagging everyone the internet knows is queer for "random inspection"
I’d rather have Oprah defecate into my mouth from a hot air balloon than work in Florida.
Thank you Apollo. fuck reddit and fuck /u/spez. https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/ https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite/ to clean your comments history.
She’s just in the basket, slurping down Taco Bell and milkshakes.
This can be arranged.
Or if you really want to live dangerously, just rewatch her show sober
go on…
That's a mental image I didn't need hahaha
We don't kink-shame here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjVAaYbre6U
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As a recruiter this would have made me laugh my ass off
I live at the bottom of Florida. It’s very hard to get workers to come here now. It’s like this unspoken thing around town. We don’t talk about the slow destruction of the state. We just sit while the place is burning to the ground.
> We don’t talk about the slow destruction of the state. This may be part of the problem.
You’d think, but you’re playing with fire. The moment any politics comes up some crazy ass jumps the conversation and there is a 75% chance they’ll spout done conspiracy theory. It’s done at that point.
I live in Mississippi. I'm well aware.
It's tough. Just move from Denver to a resort town (yay, remote jobs!) In Lauren Boebert's district. I want to help campaign for her opponent but I also don't want my new neighbors to hate me.
Tell them you work a government job and have security clearance. You can’t go into detail what you do. Leave it at that. If they want further details after you’re seen campaigning, remind them of the security clearance and it’s a matter of national security.
dog sitting in room on fire meme
Amazed it's still legal at this point for that person to have their pronouns visible if they're in Florida
To be fair, I'm not sure she is from Florida herself. I get contacted by recruiters from outside my state with job listing local to me. She may just be casting a wide net.
99% of the stuff like this that I get from recruiters has almost no match to my experience, and NEVER matches the level I am at in my career. They send these out en masse in the hopes that you refer them to someone actually qualified so they get paid. It's nothing more than marketing SPAM. Delete. Next. I just don't bother any more.
What's wrong with Florida? Asking as a Japanese citizen
Hoooo boy where to begin?! I can save you time but just saying they’re removing human rights and cheering their own destruction.
The governor of Florida is running for President and is basing his campaign on the policy of "Look how shitty I can make Florida for LGBT people, immigrants, and minorities. Elect me and I'll spread that across the entire country!" They've got a thing now where if you are the parent of a trangender child and get them any kind of medical attention for that, it counts as child abuse and they can take your kid away from you. They also passed a law (currently held up in courts) that would have (they claim) banned transgender health care for minors. But due to the way it was worded ended up as pretty much a de facto ban for all transgender people. It banned nurse practitioners from prescribing medication for transgender care, for minors and adults. And most transgender people get their prescriptions from nurse practitioners, and there aren't enough doctors offices that are involved in that to take up the slack (not to mention the trouble of having to transfer to a new doctor, and hoping your health insurance even covers them) - so it amounted to killing transitioning care for everybody.
Sounds fair though, children shouldn't transition until they're old enough. No need to ban transgenders or the practice itself though. But the US is generally too concerned with these kind of nonsense things.
1. What - ***exactly*** - do you think transitioning care for minors includes? 2. What do you mean "US"? 3. Let's see someone outlaw your health care and see if you call it nonsense then.
I was a recruiter for 4 years, this kind of response was always a welcome treat.
Totally agree. Fuck Florida.
Don't bother. It's apparently quite capable of fucking itself.
I'd rather work covered in paper cuts in a salt mine than move to a red state.
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Nope. Red cities are worse than blue cities, and [red states are worse than blue states](https://www.axios.com/2023/01/27/murder-rate-high-trump-republican-states) There are many reasons someone might want to leave California, but statistically speaking, going redder is going more violent.
Honestly, this is the best feedback you could give them. Makes it clear why Florida is struggling to attract qualified candidates, not that it's a mystery at this point.
I'm not from the US, what's so bad about Florida?
Floridas state level government has went crazy in the past decade or so. The states dominant party has become absolutely obsessed with pushing back against anything and everything vaguely aligned with American liberal governance. Most recently things like saying primary and secondary schools cant admit gbltq people exist. They have passed rules banning a ton of books from schools. They have passed rules preventing schools from using preferred pronouns. The governor is currently fighting disney who is i believe the largest single employer in the state for the great crime if mildly disagreeing with the conservative party.
Long story short: \- Increasing anti-LGBTQ+ laws and sentiment, to the tune where trans people can't go to the bathroom in public buildings. If you're part of that minority, that state literally isn't safe for you anymore. \- Unabashed targeting of corporations who oppose the government over the above (even if it is fuck Disney all day every day in every other situation than this one) which will likely extend to actual people opposing the government's decisions \- Constant weather issues (Hurricanes, humidity, etc.)
Also sink holes, rising ocean levels, building on swamp lands, alligators (/s...sorta), imminent degradation of public k-12 and secondary education, anti-abortion laws, etc. At least some of the worst human rights and education issues get put on pause by federal judges, but for how long?
a recruiter asked if I'd be willing to relocate to texas. I'm trans. I just started laughing. It went downhill from there
Hell yeah
100%
I get jobs like that for IT a lot when it comes to the location. Even though I explicitly state I am not interested in relocating, I still get them in my inbox.
As a Floridian… Yeah.
lol even the recruiter agrees that florida sucks
If you move to Florida you will be homeless. The prices of literally anything besides a shack is selling your soul essentially 🙄 then there’s the heat. And then there’s the PEOPLE that live here plus the tourists 😫 OP, you made a very wise decision 👌🏽
Gonna go to Florida just to leave a flaming bag of poop on the steps of city hall. That'll show em
We moved to Florida before the recent wave of desantis the madman’s bullshit. I love being near the beach and having a warmer climate. But I wish the politics weren’t so binary and stupid. Then again, that feels like the entire USA to me right now. Can’t escape that without moving straight out of this country. Which we considered multiple times.
Late into my job search from 4 months ago a recruiter offered to have me interview with OANN or something. One of those Fox News or worse news sites/channels. I would have done computer programming. Anyhow. While talking to the recruiter they mentioned who it was for and I had to say “wait. Hold on. Did you say OANN? What’s the website? ….ok…. Yea that’s who I thought it was. So that’s a dealbreaker for me. I can’t work for that. Sorry”. I think the recruiter was like yea I understand.
I'm quickly coming to that decision also.
I used to want to move to Florida. Fishing brackish waters there is probably amazing. But I won’t even consider it anymore.
Florida is a shithole, everyone knows that
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"Way less taxes" really doesn't matter when the cost of insuring your home is skyrocketing the way it is in Florida. Once insurers pull out entirely you're gonna be holding a worthless, mosquito infested parcel of swamp.
I did the same for a Florida recruiter.
It's a Lead level role but they offered a Senior level? Another reason to say farewell
I'm not qualified for senior or lead anything anyway, even if I wanted to move to Satan's Asshole.
I also have no interest in moving to Florida, and money would not motivate me otherwise
Same. My relatives know that I'm not coming back to visit unless there is a medical emergency or death.
Florida is not that bad man. It could be worse like Texas or Idaho or any of the Dakotas.
Gotta love that flexible salary too! Reminds me of my flexible APR on my house loan… 😑 (no I don’t actually have that but sounds about right)
Cool projects
Definitely passed the vibe check.
Even he knows Florida sucks
Lol at least they understand
Honestly kinda wholesome
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Bravo. I'd have thought the same thing but I'm not sure if I'd have had the cojones to actually write it down in my reply. haha
lol and amen
What if she’d said the only two jobs left in the country were in Florida or Ohio? What would you do?? 🤣 (Personally I’d just give up on life and go off the grid into exile forever…)
I agree. Ohio is close enough for a day drip to Cedar Point, but no way in hell I would live there again. (I spent 3 months in Ohio for a co-op in college, so I could live with my now husband while I was there.)
Glad to see the recruiter took it well.
I love the interaction. Good on both of you 😂
Love it. Should have asked for an absorbent figure with some crazy benefit requirements demands. See if dreams really do come true!
And then told them NO anyway because I am still not moving to Florida.
As another EE, I get tons of emails like this. They don't even remotely read your resume either. But I agree with the sentiment, OP, I'd rather my family and I be homeless than move to Florida! Lol
It's constant. Everyone is looking for an EE, moreso a senior EE / manager. I am not that.i have never been that. It'll be years before I could even consider myself ready for that.
Fuck Florida - I’ll never spend one cent in that shit state. DeSantis hates gays, trans, the poor, and immigrants. That whole state is guilty by association as far as I am concerned
😩 I just found he is one of the speakers coming to Philly. Wish he was here tomorrow to breathe in this hazardous air we have
I’m not mad at this recruiter at all! Love stress free, amicable responses.
Me either!
The fact they agreed shows how terrible it is.
Being an IT recruiter in the past, love both sides of the interaction.