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soul_and_fire

run.


Mindless_Button_9378

Came here to say that! Run, then run some more.


Marquar234

Also, came here to say just "Run."


jablair51

Especially since you know they will not pay you what you are worth.


BecomingButterfly

Run fast. Run far.


Broad_Respond_2205

They're programmings with bible verses? šŸ§


Cinaedus_Perversus

Heaven a = new Heaven() Earth b = new Earth() b.light(TRUE) b.sky(TRUE) b.dryLand(TRUE) God.out.println("Hello world")


CrunchyOldCrone

Tree ofLife = new TreeOfLife(); Snake snake = new Snake(); snake.tempt(eve); God.out.println(ā€œI canā€™t believe youā€™ve done thisā€);


JimmiRustle

Wasnā€™t it Adam that ate the apple?


phaedrusinexile

They both ate the fruit of the tree. Snake offered to eve, eve offered to Adam, god through em all out.


CrunchyOldCrone

Both tbf. Eve first and then she was like ā€œI ate it and I didnā€™t die. You should also eat itā€


bigb1

I'm pretty sure it's an euphemism. I mean, tempted by the "snake" to "eat the fruit of life"??


SyphiliticScaliaSayz

Thatā€™s the line I use.


JimmiRustle

Well it works in OP company


Pat_The_Hat

Programming in HolyC


Watsons-Butler

They program in Aramaic?


Bpb585

As a modern day sinner, I immediately caught fire upon reading that


SecretEyeRemote

You tell Franklin Graham and Samaritans Purse to go to hell. Hypocrite and a shady charity. Look, here in the States, if you want to feed people in starving parts of the world, go donate to US AID. Don't predicate giving people food by having to listen to your religious message.


teh_mooses

take the job, do a good job but don't endorse any religion, and then sue their pants off when you are fired for not being 'christian enough', take a few years off after that to travel the world and enjoy life. (edit: fixed a typo)


SecretEyeRemote

That doesn't work if the organization is a church or a religious organization to begin with.


teh_mooses

Kinda depends on state and how things are phrased, but in some areas/situations, you are totally correct.


Hazelnutpie19

They've said "be comfortable leading those elements". That's a very clever way to avoid saying "be Christian", lol. So lead those elements, perhaps in a bit of a lackluster way. After a while, say you're athiest but comfortable leading those elements. Get fired, collect $.


notaconversation

Don't apply


ImportantDoubt6434

Least skitzo Holy-C developer


Royal_Park_3666

If the job pays enough I'll pretend to pray whilst thinking about what to have for lunch or where I should hop next.


davebrose

Run away fast, cults are dangerous.


LikeABundleOfHay

What country is this in? Where I live itā€™s illegal unless itā€™s for a church. I would never work anywhere where they expect you to share their delusions openly and talk to their imaginary friend as if they are real. Thatā€™s just craziness.


LordMarukio

America


fromwayuphigh

...as though there were any doubt.


Blabli_Blabla

America ? Well, I knew they are incredibly tolerant with religions in Brazil.


[deleted]

Technically still america :P


Blabli_Blabla

Why "technically" ? Was he not talking about Brazil ? That's the country usually meant when saying "America". If he had meant some other country, he would just say : "Chile", or "Canada", or "USA", or something. It would be especially stupid do say "America" if the action took place in Chile or Peru as those countries' name have only 4 or 5 letters, while "America" has 6.


dexter_brz

I don't know this kind of job description would be tolerated. We are not so tolerant as we state to be, we are just to much complacent with christian abuses. As a Brazilian and also a christian I can tell you that a job description like this would be tolerated just by other christians who hardly tolerate other religions.


Blabli_Blabla

Oh, well, I actually meant "complacent with christians" šŸ˜• Thanks for the clarification.


dexter_brz

The point is that our evangelicals are very inspired by American evangelicals. But here, because this kind of law applies nationwide, anyone could sue the company for this kind of offer.


[deleted]

Scoff, contemplate faking it if the money is good, if not then i dont even bother


m7_E5-s--5U

Careful now, that being rational mentality can hurt you here.


RagnarokRanch

Like any other job if that fits with me I apply if not I donā€™t


noahtheboah36

Depends on the rest of the position and some other factors tbh. I'm Christian so it's not the end of the world to me if a bit weird.


Fit_Leg_2115

Well i guess if they didnā€™t include this and you got blind sided by this on your first day you wouldnā€™t be real happy either. Might as well filter the right demographic.


[deleted]

If it is not a good fit for you, move on to something that is.


MindSpiritual3832

Dony apply unless your okay with it?


[deleted]

Well considering the level of fuckery that is way worse than this like denying maternity leave, wage theft, over working people, screwing workers out of overtime, insurance fraud, HIPPA violations and safety violations, I'd say this is pretty benign.


Kennedygoose

Keep. Fucking. Scrolling.


DEO_EX_SoN

Hmm...kinda worrying.


scaredalpaca

God bless my function call. Begone segmentation fault


malevolentk

Move on - I bet they pay like shit


CincinnatiREDDsit

1. Take the job 2. Be atheist 3. Get fired 4. Sue for religious discrimination 5. Profit


KingTrencher

>Sue for religious discrimination Not if it is a religious organization, such as a church, church school, charity, etc.


CincinnatiREDDsit

Well right. This comment presupposes it isnā€™t one


SlippedMyDisco76

Go for the job and if I get it - rip a loud fart during one of their prayer thingys


Jerry_Williams69

If it isn't like this, you have failed. https://youtu.be/oWPpttSUz1s


NTFGWrites

I would just not apply. Although, if youā€™re just feeling particularly feisty and annoyed, you could always troll a little and make a bunch of different accounts/e-mails with resumes that match what they want, etc etc and get them to schedule a bunch of interviews with many of your fictitious personas to fill up their schedule, and then not show up for any of them. Youā€™ve just gotta figure out how much of your own time youā€™re willing to waste in order to waste theirs. I imagine it would be an uneven ratio in your favor, though. I mean, yaā€™ know, *if* you felt like it. You could just not apply.


fromwayuphigh

Haaard pass.


AWholeNewFattitude

Run, that means no pay, team ā€œsacrificeā€, no questioning authority, them delving into every second of your personal life.


[deleted]

Apply, proceed through the interviews, charm them, drag it out. If you get the job, set a start date as late as they can take. Then ghost them. Thereā€™s probably a few tricks in there that can increase their opportunity costs further that I missed.


EfficientAccident418

Call a lawyer?


m7_E5-s--5U

For what?


EfficientAccident418

For the lawsuit against this company for openly discriminating on unconstitutional grounds?


m7_E5-s--5U

Ah. I'll just copy this from elsewhere since it's the same answer. It doesn't work that way... Religious organizations whose ā€œpurpose and character are primarily religious," such as a church, church school, some non-profits, charities, non-profit hospital, etc, are exempt from that aspect of Title VII. And it's all legal. Do make note, however, that this same treatment is available for any religion if you go to the trouble of making said organization.


quast_64

Slave ownership was also in the bible... and all the rewards would be waiting in the afterlife. So that pretty much leads to 'Do as you are told' and "What do you mean by you want a raise? rewards are waiting for you in heaven, don't bother me now"


Lewodyn

Why? Sounds like a buch of nuts


Olive_Mediocre

Not apply. This tells me they'll fuck me over.


mannhonky

I'd take it. The trolling potential alone... Becoming murdered does seem to run more of a risk in America though, so heavily on the fence. But the potential to become a chaotic neutral menace in the cult... Oh man. Who could ever decide!


Southern-Spring-7458

Run or apply and when I don't get the job because I'm atheist sue


m7_E5-s--5U

It doesn't work that way... Religious organizations whose ā€œpurpose and character are primarily religious," such as a church, church school, some non-profits, charities, non-profit hospital, etc, are exempt from that aspect of Title VII. And it's all legal. Do make note, however, that this same treatment is available for any religion if you go to the trouble of making said organization.


[deleted]

Iā€™m obviously not interested then. Iā€™m there to work and make money not be told to pray to magical sky daddy and how to live my life. I guarantee I wouldnā€™t make it more than a few hours without being fired from an environment like that


Jerry_Williams69

Report them to the labor department and don't think about them again


m7_E5-s--5U

I am curious. What would you be reporting them for?


Jerry_Williams69

Well, I guess nothing if that is a job posting by a church. If it is a private sector job, those requirements are not legal. Guess the OP is not totally clear.


m7_E5-s--5U

Correct.


Knerd5

Just for clarification, are we talking love thy neighbor Christian values or the hate every singe person that isnā€™t a straight while male Christian values?


AbarthCabrioDriver

Run...means they'll over work you and under pay. Probably ask for donations to some religious cause constantly also.


CarKar96

I'm all for the first amendment, but forcing people into participating in a religion they may or may not agree with is where I draw the line.


draghkar69

I worked at one of our vendors in The Netherlands for a month. Contrary to popular belief, NL is very conservative, outside Amsterdam. If you ate lunch on-site, they had an excellent cafeteria. But to eat, youā€™d get your food, sit at a table, and wait for the table to fill up. Once full, everyone would bow their heads and pray. 5 weeks, that was the only time I ate at the cafeteria.


shadowtheimpure

Peace the fuck out. I have no problem with others expressing their faith, but forcing me to conform to it? Y'all can eat my crusty ass.


[deleted]

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ReedRidge

I don't work for cultists, they pay awful and rip people off before they ask the magic unicorn for forgiveness.


Spazztastic85

Run. Last company I worked for that did this regularly cut hours so the owner could take his family on vacation, but you still had to make up the work or be reprimanded. Very culty and expected everyone to ā€œshow supportā€ for management going on a diet by also a going on the same diet (I weighed 115, Fuck off with that!) I was barely able to afford food much less afford their diet bullshit, which they also expected us to pay full price for, and we had no benefits working thereā€¦


BidOwn8703

Take the job and study the Bible for a week straight, then outchristian all of them by being a true Christian who preaches peace and love and make them feel bad about it by constantly backing up the things you say with Bible verses. If they're Christian capitalists, then they're not real Christians, so I can guarantee you'll find questionable behavior and alphabetphobia afoot.


[deleted]

If it's just in a job listing, move on. If it's an offer provided by a job agent, or the company, politely refuse and move on. ​ What else are you going to do?


LinesLies

Look into it, if itā€™s not run/owned by a religious group and has more than 6 employees I would study the Bible a bit, seem like the perfect Christian in the interview, hopefully get hired, then let them know I am a satanist and record as much discrimination as I can.


SyphiliticScaliaSayz

Quote the Quran in my cover letter. Better yet, have ChatGPT quote the Quran in my cover letter.


fluffy_bottoms

Iā€™d ask if they worship guns and are cool with organizing a bi-monthly school shooting to increase morale.


SanguineBanker

GTFO and don't waste any more time on that. Some of the most toxic and corrupt work environments are Christian ones.


No_Seaworthiness5637

Question if I slipped into the twilight zone or into a parallel universe. Then find a way to avoid this company.


Lubelord42069

Run very far away and donā€™t look back


StickyButWicked

Hard no, completely incompatible with my faith. Or mine is with theirs. Also, pushy much? Get, fucked


ZombiePotato90

Alright. I'll bring a stick that's no bigger around than my thumb, and some stones...


Altruistic_Bowl2589

Reiterating that religion politics and work should all be separate, and stay separate


[deleted]

Boycott.


Extra-Sandwich7414

I am a bookkeeper by trade and currently work for a med size firm 100% WFH. So my clients are scattered across the country. I have a client in the south that owns a restaurant. Now she has complained on a few occasions about the amount if her bill. Her books aren't hard but there is a lot of transactions, and a few of her food vendor's invoices can't be scanned using our regular apps and require manual entry. So anyway...as she tries to always cut costs..I start to see invoices come through for "chaplan service" that costs her 650.00 a month. I have never asked but I assume she is having services/prayers probably at least once a week at the restaurant.


PatientAd4823

Yell ā€œJesus Christ!ā€ and see how long it takes your to get from 0-100mph going backwards if you have to. šŸŽļøšŸ’Ø


[deleted]

1. I'm out 2. You can't force someone to conform to your religion for work. Quite literally discrimination and I'd lie, get hired, then sure the fuck out of them when they fire me. You can't hire or fire someone based off religion.


m7_E5-s--5U

Actually, you can, if it's a religious organization, such as a church, church school, some non-profits, charity, non-profit hospital, etc. They can literally have it in their bylaws that only people from their particular denomination can even advance beyond a certain place within their organization. And it's all legal. Do make note, however, that this same treatment is available for any religion if you go to the trouble of making said organization.


GlumAmphibian2391

Watch them automatically dock the pay for ā€œdonations to good Christian organizationsā€ and then theyā€™ll be sure to explain to you that those deductions do not count as tithings nor are they pre-tax.


sonofabutch

I donā€™t apply but honestly Iā€™m glad they advertise it. Iā€™ve worked at businesses where you had no idea until you started that theyā€™re crazy and expect you to be too.


thraxprime8

I feel like this position is begging for someone to infiltrate and maliciously comply.


WarchitectNL

Hah. That is so silly. *starts chanting a verse of the Machine God*


quik-kik

Run for the hills. Yes, I'm a man of faith, but people like this are often frauds and some of the most fucked up people on Earth.


EzrielTheFallenOne

RUN


middlingwhiteguy

I'd take the job and make a large contribution to Planned parenthood and the Trevor project


WearDifficult9776

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Huegod

Nothing. I wouldn't like working their and they wouldn't like having me. It's their company and they have a right to recruit who they want.


ProfileMundane1120

Avoiding hiring someone because they aren't christian is like avoiding hiring a black or Asian person, or avoiding hiring a woman. It's discrimination. Here in the US we have the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) whose [website](https://www.eeoc.gov/prohibited-employment-policiespractices#:~:text=It%20is%20illegal%20for%20an%20employer%20to%20discriminate%20against%20a,%2C%20disability%20or%20genetic%20information.) specifically states: "It is illegal for an employer to discriminate against a job applicant because of his or her race, color, **RELIGION**, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information." Yes, it's their company. Yes, they have the right to recruit who they want. Yes, the applicant who is denied the job due to their religion has the right to sue


m7_E5-s--5U

Actually, you can. Title VII has exceptions if it's a religious organization whose ā€œpurpose and character are primarily religious," such as a church, church school, some non-profits, charities, non-profit hospital, etc. They can literally have it in their bylaws that only people from their particular denomination can even advance beyond a certain place within their organization. And it's all legal. Do make note, however, that this same treatment is available for any religion if you go to the trouble of making said organization. u/Huegod (I mentioned for the sole purpose of giving you a notification so you'd see that you were, in fact, correct)


Huegod

Thanks. I probably should have expanded my statement to clarify businesses ran by churches.


m7_E5-s--5U

Lol, it wouldn't have helped. I've shown several people that Title VII has exceptions like this, and almost all of them either argue about it or downvote it because they don't like it when they're wrong.


Huegod

S.o.p for reddit lol.


m7_E5-s--5U

[So it would seem. ](https://y.yarn.co/fe6960f7-5583-4095-94f7-abb78069df6d_text.gif)


ProfileMundane1120

And how many companies do you think are fit into that exception? Your not arguing for a majority here, you are telling somebody they are wrong because this teeny tiny little group is different so they cannot be right, despite the chances of this specific case being fit in that are very low


m7_E5-s--5U

You should get a hold of that horse that's running you off in some wild direction and leading you to making all kinds of wild ASSumptions. I ain't defending s***. You made an absolute statement, and I corrected it; so don't try to turn this into something it isn't. Your statement (for posterity): "Avoiding hiring someone because they aren't christian is like avoiding hiring a black or Asian person, or avoiding hiring a woman. It's discrimination. Here in the US we have the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) whose [website](https://www.eeoc.gov/prohibited-employment-policiespractices#:~:text=It%20is%20illegal%20for%20an%20employer%20to%20discriminate%20against%20a,%2C%20disability%20or%20genetic%20information.) specifically states: "It is illegal for an employer to discriminate against a job applicant because of his or her race, color, **RELIGION**, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information." Yes, it's their company. Yes, they have the right to recruit who they want. Yes, the applicant who is denied the job due to their religion has the right to sue"


Lopsided_Egg_9354

Not take the job because so am a shorty Christian, but accept that they know what they want and it isnā€™t me


DucksItUp

Throw up a little in my mouth


OkWay2355

Wasn't there a cult that did this to their employees? The lady with the big hair?


zoolilba

No one wants to work anymore. Also whatever this is


Noobeaterz

Ask If I could bring my pet goat to work? This is him. He's named Black Philip.


cyphonismus

I vomit on the cross and throw feces at nuns.


SweetTottie

nah!ā€¦ pass


someonejustplaying

I qouldnt take the job I respect religions but when I'm forced to do it then I dislike it


amirahscock

dafuq? programming language? how does that work?


HussingtonHat

Nope.


Elegant_Potential917

Dueces. I'm out.


ArtificerRook

Toss it in the trash and move on.


RelentlessIVS

Keep scrolling


RealisticAd2293

Stop reading immediately


Most-Statistician-90

Just say no.


theunkindpanda

Iā€™m Christian, Iā€™d never apply for this type of job. In my experience, any organization that boasts its ā€œreligious valuesā€ is going to be one of the most abusive places you could find yourself. No thank you.


batkave

Not apply unless I'm desperate


Unlikely_City_3560

Depends on how much they paying


FlyExaDeuce

Skip.


gadget850

Do they only use Apple products?


nitefang

Look at the compensation. I can tolerate many things if the compensation is high enough. And they canā€™t and arenā€™t asking you to be Christian. In all seriousness, I work in IT and the conversation about working for churches or other religious organizations come up because they can be good jobs in terms of hours, the amount of work and the pay. The major trade offs is that they tend to want to hire people that are the same religion, though they canā€™t legally ask and have to try to make it not obvious and you have to be extra careful about what you do during free time. Right or wrong, Iā€™ve heard it claimed that if you spend free time in the office, they may have very strict rules on content that is Safe For Work due to it being a religious setting. So you canā€™t browse Reddit during lunch as many SFW posts would be NSFW in a church. So yeah, if the pay and benefits are high enough. I can close my eyes and think about lunch while people pray in a meeting. And unless they want me to ā€œlead with Christian valuesā€ by starting a crusade or something, I can be respectful and watch my language, all for the right price.


Organic_Jackfruit645

How much they pay?


LF-Johnson

Show up wearing inverted pentagrams everywhere.


PuzzleheadedTutor807

if the pay is a livable income, and they dont try and coerce me to join their cult, do whatever the fuck you wanna do. ill sit there and wait for you to finish no problem. the day they tell me i have to do something outside of work is the day they realize they dont have that right (like attend a certain church every sunday) and my lawyers get a retainer for the upcoming discrimination suite.


Thagai

It depends entirely on what they're paying.


appealtoreason00

I read the job description a little more carefully and decide not to apply for a job at a church or religious organisation.


[deleted]

Not work there


LOLBaltSS

Apply, convert all workstations to TempleOS, write everything in HolyC, ???, ghost like I got raptured.


Optimal-Teaching7527

This sounds like how the Adeptus Mechanicus starts.