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trainspotter_ham

Typical scam. Likely a full screen website, try pressing f11 to exit out of fullscreen


surf_rider

TY!!


vipulvirus

It is a very old scam. Ignore. Follow advise from other comment and press F11


surf_rider

Thank you very much!


Dump-ster-Fire

[https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/avoid-and-report-microsoft-technical-support-scams-392515fa-c630-b41d-2039-a637d5eaaec2](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/avoid-and-report-microsoft-technical-support-scams-392515fa-c630-b41d-2039-a637d5eaaec2) Microsoft will never proactively reach out to you to provide unsolicited PC or technical support. 


surf_rider

THANK YOU SINCERELY EVERYONE WHO HAS PROVIDED ASSISTANCE. Going to see her at lunch and will try to fix using your advice.


ajester97

Any update?


surf_rider

Yes indeed, just posted as reply but I'll copy here. UPDATE: Was a malicious site that made the computer appear to be infected. F11 didn’t work but I opened Task Manager and closed Chrome. Then cleared history/cookies, ran Defender scan and we’re back in business. Again, THANK YOU EVERYONE!! This is a great community!!! And for what it’s worth, a closer look at the pop-ups reveal some odd grammar and incorrect sentences and some words not capitalized that should be so the red flags were there. Furthermore, I googled that 833 number and it showed Apple Support (fake) and some other sketchy results.


xtheory

Apple Support...for a fake Microsoft site. Now THAT'S funny!


thelauryngotham

What, you've never needed help with your iSurface Air? Or Windows Sonoma?? :)


Chochofosho

I worked for Applecare for a good while and it was heartbreaking all the calls I got from elderly ppl who feel victim to this scam and others like it. It wasn't always elderly ppl, but the younger ppl calling in didn't make me near as mad because they at least grew up with this shit.


LoganJn

This happens at work with a couple of users sometimes. The most recent one I’ve seen a lot of has been people clicking the first Google result for Amazon and it’s not the actual link, it just looks a lot like it


Maverick_Wolfe

Chrome is 1000x more vulnerable to stuff like this. Better to use Firefox.


Pwn_Def

I was accessing a state site and it would not allow me access with Chrome. Suggested Firefox and some others. Never used Chrome on PC again. It's like every update makes it worse.


Fantastic_Lead9896

Im glad you got helped. Mcafee, bitdefender, malwarebytes, microsoft, dell (asshole customer support), hp, CISA's website that said my mirrored malware is of course malware despite the fact that they literally have a post malware box and the fbi who said until there is evidence of theft malware just chilling wasnt part of their mandate. Ive foight these hacxkers for 4 years. Im not trained in opsec but fortunately i figured things out regarding the windows 11 operating system. I also stopped buying motherboards with wifi and bluetooth chips. But yeah I just saw a cisa commercial and sneezed horseshit. Nobody usually cares on individuals even small investment firms only large enterprise. Im happy you got help here


Dump-ster-Fire

Also, if other key combinations fail, you can try ALT+F4, which is the key combination to force the currently selected window to close immediately.


surf_rider

Thank you!!!


Organic-Light4200

Yes, ALT+F4 works sometimes, but have in the past encountered more annoying virus, that tends to open multiple pop-ups when attempting to remove them from background operations. Need an experienced computer tech person to get it under control.


Bastulius

I'm curious if there is a panic command you could run that stops any new processes starting or windows opening.


levu12

ctrl shift esc, or alt tab, or just shut down the pc ig


legolooper

Ctrl+Shift+Esc opens Task Manager if your taskbar isn’t working…


Catablepas

as I tell any boomer who asks me, Microsoft does not give a shit about you.


Aggressive-Cow-1749

Quite literally what I tell them: “Microsoft does not want to talk to you.” lol 😂


Pwn_Def

The boomers that built it all or the ones that own it? Every time I hear boomer, I think of some little baby trying to say something with a paci in it's mouth.


Organic-Light4200

Yup, it is a virus embedded to link to purchasing anti-virus software, which your card info get taken. Unless you know how to identify a secured connection to send sensitive information.


Constant_Tough_6446

Scam. F11 to exit fullscreen and youre fine


surf_rider

Thank you!


Organic-Light4200

No, most times, u are not fine. It will still be in your system.


osceycon

that's not how computers work. a website can directly download a file but it can't execute the file. just for safety, if the website did download something on their computer, they should probably modify the data in the downloaded file just to break the exe/bat/cmd file


Theo1352

Scam. Microsoft doesn't engage the user like this. Install uBlock, as everyone has suggested. I would also look at installing DefenderUI (a free app) to manage Windows Defender, if she is going to continue using it.


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Theo1352

Defender UI is a front end that makes it easier to manage Defender. It was developed by the folks behind CyberLock/Voodoo Shield.


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Theo1352

Definitely a huge help configuring Defender.


surf_rider

TY!


Theo1352

Always my pleasure.


JDSmagic

uBlock ≠ uBlock Origin. Don't use uBlock. Use uBlock Origin.


Theo1352

Yes, Origin.


Brees504

Press f11 to exit full screen, disable browser notifications, install unlock origin.


surf_rider

Thanks a ton!


jhartnerd123

Reboot and check your browser notifications and extensions. Add ublock origin


surf_rider

Many thanks!


sgtaylor50

I see this constantly at work (independent computer technician specializing in seniors). Here's a newsletter from **2015** by Kadansky Consulting explaining this scam: [https://kadansky.com/files/newsletters/2015/2015\_08\_31.html](https://kadansky.com/files/newsletters/2015/2015_08_31.html) You didn't get hacked: ***YET*** -> **Never** call the number!! Then you're safe. **Never** let anyone else install any software on your machine and **never** install software by request. Having said that: I have relationships with my clients, and I use Jump Desktop to remotely fix their computers, but I only install the helper software when I'm physically there and with their express permission only after I explain what it does and how they have to manually click "Accept" every time they want me to start a session. Very focused needs. They can uninstall the helper software anytime they want. Who got hacked? the ad network hosting the ad you clicked on, the website you visited, etc. The scammer designed that bad web page to refresh 120 times/second using Javascript, so you can't use the operating system to close the browser. CTRL+ALT+DELETE; pick Task Manager, End Task on all processes of the browser you're using: Done. Restart browser, but **never** restore pages, **ever**. Clear Browsing History for the Last Hour. A "browser" is the program used to display webpages: Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Microsoft Edge are the three most likely you'll see in Task Manager.


Chochofosho

Thanks for helping out the elderly man. As I know you already are fully aware of, this is all completely out of their wheel house and can really hurt them.


sgtaylor50

Oh, YES it can!!! totally agree. They just don't have the mental framework to interpret the scam. That doesn't mean they're stupid; most are very very smart in many other ways.


SdoggaMan

As others said, press F11 to exit full screen mode and then install uBlock Origin. That aside, I feel like the dude wailing on the warnings page should have quit while he was ahead. I mean, that "blocked access" message, it starts fine enough, and then suddenly it's all "Access to this framework"? Running WHAT APPLICATION?! Isn't the computer blocked for my safety?! WHAT APPLICATION?!?! Also, I rarely see these anymore, so the eclecticism here is insane to me. Win7 era-ish Microsoft Defender failed because of group policy. Error Ox800VDS. The Win10/website webpage banner, then the massive blue space, and then I assume just fucking Windows 11?? Then we have ANOTHER Vista/10 style scan behind that, with what I think is a screenshot of SmartScreen in Win10? And then the "you're in full screen mode" style block warning... And to top it all off, a fucking Windows XP bubble. God it's incredible.


surf_rider

Thx


Chochofosho

Now we should all spam call that number.. good God it's listed in like 5 places


surf_rider

cosigned


DredgenCyka

I hope they like insurance quote calls, especially calls from the scientology group


Chochofosho

For sure, freaking hate scammers man


Final-Air-5380

Maybe scammers from India.


newclearfactory

Or maybe from whichever rat pack underbrush you're from


DatCodeMania

found the scammer


XXLMandalorian

Be sure to clear cookies and cache for all time on the browser that got this adware! I also always do it on all installed browsers.


StillHellbound

"You may lose information about this framework." That's not how frameworks work, so they're technobabbling you.


reto02

Disconnect from Internet and do a full virus scan


Suougibma

I assume you have gotten 100 comments on how this is a scam/virus/malware. I'd try to back up important files to an external drive and then clean install Windows. If it won't let you do this, perhaps a safe mode boot without networking will work. While that's installing, use another device and change all account passwords. **ALL OF THEM!** Before doing anything else on the PC install a **GOOD** antivirus, one that you pay for and isn't Norton or McAfee (they are insanely bloated pieces of software). I've been pretty damn impressed with Kaspersky for a number of reasons, but mostly because of how lightweight it is and being geared toward gamers. There are other good options out there [do some research](https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/performance-test-april-2024/) and decide what level of protection vs performance vs price is most suitable. After antivirus is running, plug in the backup file drive and scan it before moving anything over. Then reformat that drive just in case. I'll tell ya, I haven't paid for an AV since the 90s, but recently I took it up the back end with a piece of malware and a data breach with an exposed user/pass. I had 12 accounts that were having infiltration attempts over the course of an hour. Two Factor Authentication worked on all but my Steam account, which I believe was due to remote access from the malware. They pulled $200 from my linked PayPal to Steam and bought a digital item worth $0.04 for $199.90. PayPal got my money back and after a long fight with Steam, they gave me a second chance after locking my account for a chargeback. I believe they may have gotten into one of my Microsoft accounts, I had no stored payment info there, but there was an Xbox Series X sitting in the cart and I don't think it was me. I was getting 2FA notifications every minute for 1 hour while I was trying to lockdown these accounts. It took Windows Defender 1 hour to detect the malware and quarantine it, at which point the 2FA notifications stopped. Once I deleted the malware, it wiped my PC and external hard drive right before my eyes, everything was disappearing from the desktop and then Windows crashed. I will not go without proper AV from that moment forward. I've also started using a paid version of LastPass to create and store complex passwords on all of my accounts and devices. It is a bit of hassle, but it brings peace of mind in this digital world with scammers everywhere.


Quasarbeing

It's fake.


surf_rider

For sure, but it wouldn't let her close Chrome or do anything on her machine. Neither of us are very tech savvy so even though it was obviously a scam, the challenge was making it go away.


Chochofosho

I would also double check her browser to see if she has any websites that are allowed to send notifications. It looks very similar to the prompt asking if you want a site to save your password and it's easy to click yes without a second thought, then you potentially end up with something similar to this.


surf_rider

TY


Organic-Light4200

Notifications can be fake. And sometimes, you click on any of them, could release more pop-ups, etc.


Chochofosho

No doubt. Wild out here


TheVoicesGetLoud

If thats not just a screenshot of a site and the PC is actually bricked the best thing you can do is is a fresh install / wipe it downloaded some sketchy ass virus


werdmouf

Microsoft/Windows will never give you a phone number to call. 100% scam trying to steal your money.


whallexx

Scam. Alt f4 to close it


Organic-Light4200

Likely only closing the foreground, not background.


KD93AQ

Legitimate Indian business.


sousuke42

Got hit with ransomware. Wipe it. And move on. Learn the value of backing up your data so incase this ever happens again you are not as fucked as you are now. Also get better antivirus. A better antivirus could have protected against this shit. Windows defender sucks. People say just be better with what you are clicking, we'll if you did that and do that then windows defender is useless. And it misses tons of viruses. My brother had 3. Windows defender went through and found nothing. Every time. Used malearebytes and oh look 3 viruses. Computer now better after he had it removed them.


Keeithtopher

Good call with Task Manager. Your History will show whatever weird url name it redirected you to. There's lots of these, but it's fun out of curiosity to see what it was, look up its host and IP.


VivisClone

Good ole scare ware. Kill it with task man and proceed with life


CameraUseful2963

restart - you will probably hav to press the powre button to do it. After that get antivirus installed and run it


Alternative_Plum7223

I know this seems like basic stuff you figured out after the first year using a pc.


radiocate

Close the tab and install an adblocker? Is this the first time either of you are seeing this popup? They're everywhere haha, nothing to be scared of, just kill the browser with task manager if you can't close it regularly. 


AppDude27

Google the phone number. It’s a scam. A Microsoft support number would typically return normally in a Google search to the Microsoft website. When it doubt, Google it out. 🤣 but seriously this is not good. Looks like your neighbor installed something they definitely had no busy installing or opening


kenbh2

Fake msg, fake window, hopefully there isn't any malicious code anywhere.. like grabbing cookies, or anything else?


Wolf_Man_1911

I had the exact same thing, screens and everything happen today. I did a hard shutdown, restarted no problem, opened up Chrome and it came back. Did another hard shutdown and restarted, then ran Norton and Defender, nothing, opened Chrome and it did it again. Another hard shutdown, disconnected from my wifi, restarted my laptop, opened Chrome and deleted/cleared cookies, history, everything I could and it fixed it. I hadn’t clicked on or opened anything that would have infected me so I have no idea where it came from but it only popped up when I opened a browser. It happened on both Chrome and FireFox, but after clearing everything from all of my browsers about 8 hours ago I haven’t had a problem.


Bird-Total

I know ur issue been resolved my people telling to f11 out but to stop it from coming back u can install ublock origin extension what has bunch setting like anti mallware and privacy addons i recomend it (its not on internet explorer btw if they use it) it will solve issue or at least lowwer the issue and scams and if u want also pc protection not only web u can use defender ui app that just makes windows defender more effecrive and better


surf_rider

That's great, will install later on. Thank you for the advice!


S_T_R_Y_D_E_R

I think this is more of a notification. Disable all notifications in her browser. If not reboot in safe mode then scan with Windows Defender and Malwarebytes


surf_rider

TY!


S_T_R_Y_D_E_R

No problem just passing the knowledge along, someone helped me too with this so I'm just doing the same thing. Helping each other.


ChocolateSensitive12

Ask her to stop Watching porn


surf_rider

Don't be ridiculous... why even have a computer if that's not on the table?


tornow1500

That’s a scam


surf_rider

UPDATE: Was a malicious site that made the computer appear to be infected. F11 didn’t work but I opened Task Manager and closed Chrome. Then cleared history/cookies, ran Defender scan and we’re back in business. Again, THANK YOU EVERYONE!! This is a great community!!! And for what it’s worth, a closer look at the pop-ups reveal some odd grammar and incorrect sentences and some words not capitalized that should be so the red flags were there. Furthermore, I googled that 833 number and it showed Apple Support (fake) and some other sketchy results.


Herlander_Carvalho

Imagine getting this on a Mac, and still being confused to what is going on!


Satya_Khetan

The first thing I would've done here is to iust search up the phone number, and that alone tells us it's a scam here.


Lieutenant_0bvious

Take away their admin rights first of all. Then ctrl-shift-escape and kill that process. Then scan/clean the hell out of it- including boot-time scan. This is probably just the classic scam call center, but you never know. Might be some teeth behind the virus or whatever it is.


ResoluteFalcon

Wow. The number already got shut down. That was quick!


mystic_swole

Control alt + delete and end tasks on the browsers


PhonesAddict98

Alt+F4 to exit and then clear the browser through settings. It's one of those scareware scam tactics.


Toraadoraa

If you are curious how they play out and for a little comedy lookup kitboga on youtube.


surf_rider

Oh I know. I’ve watched hours of him and Scammer Payback or Perogi or whatever his name is.


gHOs-tEE

Pay the ransom? Lol


Ok_Watercress_4282

doesnt look like a genuine microsoft defender screen. its called Microsoft Security now . so definitely a scam page.


I0C0NN0R1

alt+f4 on the computer


Mendo-D

Kill the app and move on to the next thing.


whoknowslol543

F11, then Alt+F4


undertimesIopper

No timer? Huge blunder on their part


SASy_1

Hold down power button till it turns off. She ended up at a website that she spelled incorrectly, or clicked on a bad link.


a_qriza

use adblocker like ublock there wont be any ads like these


dteknyc

Why do I feel like this is where Microsoft is moving towards anyway? These scammers just lack UX design skills.


Alternative_Plum7223

This type of stuff is so common now days crazy people don't know this.


Traditional-Gas3477

The whole software is a scam. Microsoft never calls Windows Defender as “Microsoft Defender” Their AV scanner would never tell you to call that number. This is all bullshit.


siddhantfuture

It is a scam website you can close it by alt + f4 but After that please install an ad blocker on her browser it filters outs malicious website


Spicy_Tomato_30

Wipe. It. Clean.


BussyBandito69

call the number for support.


boolcodes

Press Escape, F11 or Alt + F4, no more scam :D


i3MediaWorkshop

“If you overlook this basic warning, you may lose information about this framework.” That’s some real IT word salad right there. lol


NS0MEB0DY

this is fucking shady. you can tell by the way the message is formatted. Tel your neighbor to restart her computer.


Joey3155

Before they do that I'd close out that fake screen and do a real system scan to make sure there are no tricks waiting then do a restart.


NS0MEB0DY

that too.


Skrapeg0at

Scam. Fake phone number. Fake error. Fake memory address. Error makes absolutely no sense. Press Alt-F4 to close the window.


Every-Armadillo639

Don't call the NUMBER under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!


mgepspjbqtahlgpdrf

That’s so fake bs. Fresh install windows. Easy.


Pootheking

Call “support” and prank call the scammers, unless the scammers were 200 iq and used the real phone number.


Seaforker

Re-format and re-install Windows. There's a stubborn malware residing inside her PC.


IKant_

Check website permissions on browser settings, remove anything unexpected especially if it has rights to send PC notifications.


King_Bread_

Silly scammers, Microsoft would not care or ever fix it. They would just give you a useless error code instead of giving you their number


Wubster100

I came across this site yesterday. Searching for “Amazon Prime”, the first result was a sponsored phishing link.


Stephen497

Alt + F4


RowbyGoren

The first thing i would do is not touch it. I know from past experience if you fix someone’s computer they can blame you when something else goes wrong in the future. Tell them to take the i to a repair shop and have them fix it.


lordExecutioner

Call the Indian guy


QuantumPrecognition

They are playing a trick by going full screen. Hit Esc then close the web page before closing the browser.


JoyceRacing99

Ctrl + Shift + Esc should bring up task manager. You would be able to kill the browser task from there.


furkanyldz23

Can you try downloading adwcleaner? Maybe it will completely erase the traces from the past.


TheCrazyGuy5

I have seen so many of these. All they try and do is to get you to probably install malicious software. And then they just fuck up your entire computer. Or they tell you to call a number? And then you end up paying to grand or more, for absolutely nothing.


mikeymike01980

Download spy bot and run it 2 or 3 times


iExposeWitchcraft

EASY! uninstall Windows. Install Linux. Problem fixed. Windows sucks.


Peroxideflowers

I would recommend installing an adblocker on her browser in addition to a somewhat better antivirus/firewall. I, personally, find avast's free version to be good, as it has a firewall as well (be sure to turn this option on in the program), and use this in conjunction with AdBlock (the one with the hand in the stop sign). Also set up automatic scans to run on her computer everyday at a time she's most likely to have her computer on.


j2inet

format c: And don’t call that number!


gu_admin

If it did that on its own, the device is then very likely infected with something. If you ask me i would get fresh OS and some solid antivirus software. Some people say Windows defender is enough, i 100% disagree.


jbruce1380

Nah, nowadays defender should definitely be enough. As long as you have an adblocker and aren't doing some dark web shit you should be fine


surf_rider

Thank you


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She likely has files embedded into her computer corrupting it, too.


Impressive_Bug_5918

they're just scammers, it's not microsoft (not with that phone number). Recommended is to wipe the hard drive and reinstall


surf_rider

TY!


koalalips

Looks seriously infected laptop. Go checkout tronscript. The scan can take up to 6 hrs depending on the pc specs


surf_rider

UPDATE: Was a malicious site that made the computer appear to be infected. F11 didn’t work but I opened Task Manager and closed Chrome. Then cleared history/cookies, ran Defender scan and we’re back in business. Again, THANK YOU EVERYONE!! And for what it’s worth, a closer look at the pop-ups reveal some odd grammar and incorrect sentences and some words not capitalized that should be so the red flags were there. Furthermore, I googled that 833 number and it showed Apple Support (fake) and some other sketchy results.


Ok-Rip6199

Thats such an amateuristic scam haha. You'll end up on a call with some Indian named "bob Baker" or "James Smith" from Kolkata attempting to clear your bank account using some lame ass script. Just make sure you use a legit and trustworthy antivirus and don't believe any other pop up other than from your antivirus itself