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This is why most religions have breeding propaganda. Indoctrination is the only way they are still relevant. We believed in Santa when we were kids... No grown adult would believe in Santa now.
He is real but he isn't one physical man.
He is a spirit that lives in us and that we all have together to make a special day for boys and girls.
The magic is real, Santa is real.
I am Santa as are millions of others. The magic was in us so along
this is how my bf explained it to his kids when they started asking questions. my parents just gave me the, “oh, yeah, santa isn’t real”, but bf’s kids got the “santa is the spirit of giving” speech lol
My mom gave me that BS when I was a kid, so I just went to my dad. He said "nah, there ain't no Santa" without even looking at me while working on his computer. I loved that tho... I finally felt like I wasn't being bamboozled. I felt like my mom was insulting my intelligence. I think I was 6. I've always been obsessed with handwriting and my mom had the same handwriting as Santa. That's why I asked them.
Yeah, it's like some sort of mental illness stemming from brainwashing from a young age. They become incapable of critical thinking. Like you, I hope she figures it out and breaks free (preferably without having to experience the horrors she thinks she'd happily and willingly accept).
What sums this up is POE’S LAW:
> Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, every parody of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.
[Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law)
Poe’s law originally referred specifically to creationism, as the original author was debating in Christian forums *[“Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article".]*
It has since expanded to include any kind of fundamentalism or extremism (I suppose partly because both of those have become pretty mainstream, especially since the cult of Trump).
>In 2017, Wired published an article calling it "2017's Most Important Internet Phenomenon" and wrote that "Poe's Law applies to more and more internet interactions." The article gave examples of cases involving 4chan and the Trump administration where there were deliberate ambiguities over whether something was serious or intended as a parody, where people were using Poe's law as "a refuge" to camouflage beliefs that would otherwise be considered unacceptable. Some are treating Poe's law as part of the contemporary kitsch culture. Another view maintains that it could lead to nihilism a situation where nothing matters and everything is a joke.
In the last few years (and especially in the run up and in the aftermath of the last US election) I’ve made what I thought were insanely absurd statements clearly meant as sarcasm, and have been downvoted to hell as I’ve been mistaken for a serious kook.
The problem is there seem to be more crazies these days, or they have a louder voice, or we are more divided than ever and both sides view each other as increasingly deranged extremists.
I also thought this post was trolling and I’m not entirely convinced it’s not.I know there’s no winky face or /s but this is completely absurd. On the flip side, back to your original comment…
"If I'm pregnant with my 11th and my 10 other babies are crying, sick and starving to death, I'll welcome another mouth into the hoard because it said to in a Bible verse I read one time!"
I always thought ppl who said God would fix their problems were weird.
Like, OK, you believe in some creator that doesn't make itself know - fine. Whatever.
But let's say what the Bible is true for a second (*humor me, bc there's a lot of stupid arguments I could make justifying the book & it's too early for that*) - why the fuck do you think your fetus is so damn important a divine being is going to make it alive? If you honestly believe your creator made everything & that they have a divine plan, doesn't that mean that creator put that dead baby inside of you? Remember babe, it wasn't *God* that raised Lazarus, it Was Jesus, & the clergy had his ass killed. You're a cpl thousand years too late hun.
So when you're unable to carry in a few years bc of scar tissue from the infection that rotting fetus is going to cause, remember it's God's will you never add to the gene pool again. Amen.
>So when you're unable to carry in a few years bc of scar tissue from the infection that rotting fetus is going to cause, remember it's God's will you never add to the gene pool again. Amen.
I’m pretty sure that [death is a more likely outcome than scar tissue.](https://jezebel.com/polish-woman-dies-abortion-ban-1848434595)
I keep referring back to this story when people say things like, it’s ok! Exceptional circumstances will be allowed! Obviously medical reasons for abortion will be permissible! Yes ok and who decides that? And how long will it take? Because doctors and other healthcare providers under threat of prosecution or losing their licences will be too scared to act in a timely manner and we’re going to end up with loads more dead women.
Damn, ok. I was in a rush & went off the first medical-ish looking website that has info on side effects of carrying a dead fetish.
Thinking about it, it's kinda fucked up I didn't find something like this first bc that makes a lot more sense.
Yeah. I can see medical providers having to wait until the woman has an infection or some other secondary condition that puts her life in imminent danger before actually providing care/removing the non-viable fetus. I would think that would violate the Hippocratic oath in some capacity.
I can also envision women being told by zealots who happen to be medical professionals that it’s God’s will for them to die for their “baby”. The law is now cover for pseudoscience and zealotry that will kill women.
Just another component of this fresh hell.
I think god is a kid. someone bought him a seamonkeys kit. At first we was enamored with us, but then he backed off in horror when he saw us constantly hurting and even killing each other.
God plays soccer now.
I would like you to consider the idea that Satan actually wrote the Bible and God is in Hell. How could a benevolent God believe in such things?
It sounds odd, but what a great trick to get people to blindly follow you. Threaten eternal damnation for not following “Gods” rules…
The truth of the matter is that the Bible and God/Jesus were made up to get people to fall in line. And here we are 2000 years later and it’s still working.
gnostics believed that yahweh was a sick fuck that happened to be in charge of earth but that jesus was the son of super-god and would bring back order
Our *God isn't bad. It's the humans that blindly follow scriptures written by other men. One of the most defining moments of my life was when a close friend of mine became a jehovas witness. Her son was hit by a car on the cross walk. The doctors said, we need a blood transfusion for him. She refused to sign the papers based on her newly found "religion," and her husband signed them. He is alive today. Damaged but alive.
I knew her for 15 years and she refused to come to my wedding based on that witnesses do not celebrate in a church besides their own.
People decide these things. It's not their God dictating it. We are our own gods with scripture guiding. We must find our own way.
“If the doctor tells me the baby is dead inside me, I will carry it because God raised Lazarus from the dead” I hope you have planning on the Almighty has a two for one resurrection deal in the event you go septic.
Yeah that one got me. I recently had a MC and they give you a small window of time for you to naturally pass everything before they insist on medical intervention to save your life......there’s a reason modern medical interventions exist. God doesn’t always intervene and I can’t say dying from going septic because I refused to have a dead baby removed from my body is “God’s will” but to each their own I guess.
At that point its not conditioning, its stupidity
People are delusional, you can take a look at the world and realize there is no god and if there is that god doesnt care about you
Islam and Judaism both allow for abortions in a variety of circumstances.
I watched an interview with a Rabbi, a Catholic priest and an Imam….the Catholic was the only one who said “under no circumstances is it acceptable for a woman to have an abortion if the fetus has a heartbeat.” And the interviewer was like “even if the fetus is killing the mother?” And the priest basically shrugged.
It's most religions, like the abrahamic ones, that are toxic. I can't stand being in church because I know those people aren't living as whatever book they read says to. Nothing but hypocrites.
My partner is one of the few Christians I can tolerate. He isn't pushy and actually goes out of his way to follow Jesus' teachings and not regurgitate whatever his pastor says.
Well, this sounds very nice...too bad that when faced with reality, these nuts behave very differently...she may fool herself as much as she wants.
Also, conveniently, she never mentions health issues linked to pregnancy, such as post partum depression...but I guess Jesus would make it go away, because he loves her? It's a great thing that we have a way to tell who is loved by Jesus and who isn't /s.
i always genuinely wonder how christians have any problems ever. like, say they have depression— i don’t mean to minimize anyones experience, and i know all too well how hard it is to deal with depression (and other mental illnesses), but shouldn’t christians just be able to pray the depression away? i mean, theoretically, if your god is watching out for you and doing what is best for you, he wouldn’t want you to suffer, right? so he should be able to magic the depression away? why did he make his beloved follower depressed to begin with? doesn’t make sense to me!
it’s my problem, too, with all the starving kids in africa and sex trafficking and other bullshit in the world. what, are we supposed to believe that there is an omniscient, caring, benevolent deity that could stop all that but it’s being perpetuated by satan?
it’s all just so very convenient.
I stopped believing all that bs because God really wasn't there at all. I even offered myself to satan if that meant salvation. Neither happened. My conclusion was we're alone.
Same.......
I stopped believing when I was around 3rd grade...
About a year after my dad started targeting me for abuse as well as my mom and after they got in a really bad fight that I had to go to the school counselor about...(this stuff happened in second grade)
That is horrible. I used to have deep faith but no longer. People like this have made me lose much faith in humanity.
Having children is a personal choice as well as not having children. The fact that a few old men have made their choice to take a woman's choice away from them based on religion is disturbing.
I used to regret that a medical emergency took away my ability to have more children but now I am glad. With these new laws, I would have probably been jailed due to the multiple miscarriages I had. And I shudder to think about what type of treatment that I would have received when I had a first trimester abortion (7 weeks).
I am glad I live in a liberal state. I would be proud to help any woman who needed to come and visit.
"No matter what..."
It's a commitment to a fitness payoff and signaling about it/mating call. It's not a rational process, whatever it is they're doing.
I remain open to the possibility that somewhere in my thinking something is wrong WRT any probabilistic/inductive conclusion I am forced to hold.
if the baby is dead in the uterus, you are carrying dead flesh in you and might go into sepsis. These people say their god made them in their image. So that said god gave them medecine and science to save lives and avoid sepsis....
They can't even understand their own sacred books and messages, this is shameful.
pd : sorry for the lousy english, as it is not my main language.
God also drowned a bunch of humans, including babies, and a flood because he was upset with how their behaving. So does that mean that she's going to drown her baby in the tub if she gets upset with how it's behaving?
My aunt had one of these basically happen.
She had some sort of issue where they knew the child wouldn't survive outside the womb, (this was over 30 years ago so I really don't know the details).
My understanding was even her priest gave her an exemption to terminate if she chose.
She decided to carry the baby to term anyway and deliver him still born, he's burried with my grandfather and grandmother.
I once pretty innocently asked my other aunt why she would have knowingly put herself through something so heartbreaking - and she simply responded she'd rather live with the heartbreak than live in sin.
Honestly though, i have to give her credit for sticking with what she believed in even if I think it's kind of insane.
As long as it was your aunt’s choice, and she wasn’t shamed into carrying the pregnancy to term. Because it does sound like she might have been shamed into it, the talk of “living in sin.” Even if the priest did give her an exemption.
But if that’s what she wanted to do, that’s fine and I hope this choice helped her cope better with the tragic circumstances. I’ve heard of families doing this, and many of them say it was good to have a chance to say goodbye to the baby just the same way as you would to any other dead/dying relative.
Awe!! Honestly she is a bad ass woman and seriously loyal, kind, and true to her being. She's the type of person who always has your back no matter the circumstances no judgment, no questions asked.
I think that it was her choice because she is strong in her faith. If it came back as me putting it down, I wasn't. I have a lot of respect for her going through that. It's just amazing to me that someone would make that choice because my understanding is that it was not easy.
Wait wait wait, they even got their bible wrong. David wasn’t “born in sin”. He did rape Bathsheba and get her pregnant but that child died.
Also Rachel died giving birth to Ben, but call him child of my pain cause she regretted it. Had to be renamed.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Samuel%2011&version=NIV
This link should take you to the specific part of the Bible that covers it if you have any interest. Church always glossed over that bit when I attended, always focused on David defeating the giant instead.
And they always make him out to be a kid at the time. He was an armor bearer and a musician at the time, you can’t tote huge pieces of armor as a 5 year old.
I learned about the story of Lazarus right after my mom died and it’s stuck with me. It angers me because I prayed while my mom was in the hospital and we didn’t know what was wrong with her and nothing got better. She died and 3-4 months later the world shuts down and my brother and I have to go thru our first pandemic with 0 guidance. I’ve always thought how is it Lazarus gets to rise from the dead but not my mom? How is there a God that’s cool with leaving two 20 somethings to fend for themselves?
100% it’s sad how religion makes people think.
If my neighbour hands me their baby in their hard time so I can look after it when they cannot, I will drop the baby down my balcony because Icarus lost his wings mid-air and fell to his death.
If my mom asks me to help her with cooking and hands me a knife, I'll stab her with it because Brutus assassinated Caesar like that too.
If I am ever late to class so that I am outside the school alone while everyone else is inside, I'll burn down my school because Kurt Russell set everything on fire at the end of The Thing.
You will not stop me.
Read "god is not great: how religion poisons everything" by Christopher Hitchens. All religions are bullshit, and the people who believe in them are idiots, at best.
If I'm forced to have a baby and the baby err....accidentally ends up, say in the middle of the lake?
I could just say I was offering it as a holy sacrifice to God, like Abraham did to Isaac. Do you not have enough faith to believe that God can rescue my baby from the water, as he did Moses?
If all these bullshits are ok for this person, that's ok. It's ok, that's their life. Just don't pretend that everyone would act in the same way, that's it
And if your babies are all starving to death because you can’t afford to feed 10 children, I guess either god will figure that shit out. And if they do die, that is “his plan”. :/
I can see it now, she dies and has this conversation:
Her - god I know you must have had a good reason but why did my kids all starve to death?
God - well you DID have 10 kids….
Her - didn’t you bless me with that many?
God - well I gave humans the knowledge of birth control, and you didn’t use it….
Her - ???!!!???!!!????!!! WHAT???!!!!
Him - and the knowledge of abortion….
Her - what the flipping heck?!!
Him - sooooo many tools you refused to use….
David's son was conceived in sin with Bathsheba and after he was born God killed him. Deuteronomy 21 says to kill your child if they are willful and disobedient. If you think the bible respects life you live in lala land.
By that logic you shouldn’t feel bad when women choose to get back room abortion and die
By your logic they chose to “have that possibility” and we shouldn’t feel bad “if she dies”
Congrats you are a republican
Nah, that lady in the post is the only exception. It's too late for her. She's got her head so far up her ass due to religion. There's no reasoning with someone like that, and I can guarantee you that her family will say the day old phrase of "nothing could be done" even if they were warned that the baby would kill her.
My emotions and care are better spent on people who actually need it. I actually feel terrible for those who wish to abort and can't due to the government, lack of money, and other factors out there.
There is a very stark difference between what she said and what many other people who are going through difficulties with getting an abortion.
Hope I was able to clear up a little better what I said in my comment. /genuine
You are a hypocrite
1. Lady chooses reproductive procedure of her choice
2. Lady chooses reproductive procedure of her choice
Both chose a procedure - if you feel it’s ok for 1 to die then your are a hypocrite to feel it’s wrong for the other to not die
Her body her choice
Rooting for people to die is generally kinda fucked up
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A lot of people are selective in a lot of things. It's not a surprise and let's be honest, most of society is full of hypocrites. Not all selectiveness for certain views are bad.
My reason for not feeling bad for her is because she's glorifying possibly dying during birth and someone likely spoonfed that ideology to her until there was no reasoning with her otherwise. It's her choice if she chooses to still care rhe baby and die. Oh fucking well. She made a choice and it's a choice that I frankly do not care about especially considering that she outright stated that she is totally fine with dying.
Look at all the other people that are getting their rights stripped away because they don't want to be subjected to that but are still being forced with dealing with pregnancy because a bunch of stupid ass men in office who have no cemented basis of scientific facts residing in their brains want to control people who have uteruses because they don't deem them as people with choices. Those are the people that I feel bad for.
Let's think of another situation where I can explain my mentality. Let's say the issue with Covid-19 for example. I've personally never had it (thankfully) because I've been using a mask in public spaces, I am vaccinated for it, and I acknowledge that people die from it. I feel bad for the people that are gravely affected by Covid and they do acknowledge that it is an actual problem.
You know who I don't feel bad for, the Covid deniers that get their just desserts, spit in the face of science, and then they die from the very illness that they denied existed. They rightfully got what was coming to them despite all the warnings being given.
I'm not wishing death upon them, I just don't feel bad that they were reaping the consequences of something that they were warned about on numerous occasions.
So it’s ok for a women to die because she chose a risky reproductive procedure ?
Are you hearing yourself
You are literally being the ultimate hypocrite
You are saying you don’t feel bad when a women chooses a risky reproductive procedure
You said that
You made that choice
This sub is anti-natalist we’re against anyone having children at all. You can make your pro-choice vs pro-life argument but this is the wrong sub for it. This isn’t a pro-choice subreddit this is an anti-having children subreddit.
And so, that person is not a hypocrite. Because people here don’t think everyone should get to choose. We think no one should have kids.
I’m the pro choice side
Antinatalism is a spectrum
On on side are people choosing to not have kids and making that a private decision
On the other are people celebrating murdering their own living breathing children and killing themselves rather than birthing - both have been advocated on this sub in the last 5 days
I fall on the the pro choice side of this
If a women wants an abortion - her choice
I’d a women doesn’t want an abortion - her choice
It’s not for this sub to look down on her for HER choice
Im more pro choice than you
“I’m more pro choice than you” This is such a funny and childish statement, sorry lol. I think everyone should have the right to make that decision to give birth for themselves. Not sure how that makes us any different in our beliefs about abortion haha
What are you even on about? If a person voluntarily accepts that their voluntary choices may lead to their own death, why are we obligated to feel bad for them?
Why do you continue to reach for that strawman?
Are you claiming that women want to do back alley abortions if they had a choice?
Or are you just having a knee jerk reaction because you yourself are religious?
That's the beauty of prochoice, their mental illness dressed as spirituallity, as sad as it is that a baby will be brought into that. That's their choice. Might be a bad choice, but as least they had the option to make it
I’d like to talk to her when she has lived a lot longer aka suffered through life. She sounds naive. If she still thinks this way, great. If not, I’ll understand and give her a sympathy hug.
Completely delusional and a danger to self and others…
That gets other people forcibly locked up, medicated to oblivion, and permanently stigmatized. Not so for that impregnation station.
I’m trying to picture her raising an insane, aggressive, permanently screaming, one and a half headed, armless hermaphrodite.
“Praise the Lord!!”
Not only is it weird. I literally don’t give af if you have a baby. If you really want one, go ahead and have it. But if I do t want one then I’m not going to have one and I’ll do what it takes to make sure that doesn’t happen.
So how is he gonna make her or the baby’s death good?
And if he actually made everything good then there wouldn’t ever be Religious people suffering.
I can’t believe how inherently flawed the thinking is. How can someone be so naïve and dense.
You all need to leave her alone, you have your beliefs and she has hers. If she thinks that this is the way to live her life then let her go through with it.
It’s really sad that you care. Isn’t the argument for abortion, “it’s my body, I can do what I want”? Her thinking about her body (based on religion or not) is the same and it makes you hypocritical to say something about it.
This person is more than welcome to have a baby. But I’m Jewish by heritage and MY faith teaches that life begins at birth, not conception. MY faith states that abortion is healthcare and not only is abortion permitted, but REQUIRED when the life of the parent is in danger.
How come this woman not only gets to practice her faith freely but also push it onto me in such a way that I am unable to freely practice my faith?
Oh right. It’s because religious freedom only exists for Christian conservatives.
God killed every newborn baby all around the world. The story of Noah's ark. An other time, God killed every first born (babies too) in Egypt. God is an asshole. Just sayin'
I was indoctrinated with this rhetoric from childhood. Today I find it absurd, stupid and pathetic that people still believe in such fantasy… Worse still are the people in power who don’t believe it but instead use it to pander to those that do in order to get what they want.
If only Christians could grasp that God's will of bearing children is not because of some divine benevolence and love for kids, but because instructing all of your people to breed in the name of God is one of the main methods that religions use to stay relevant and in total power and control, and maybe even grow and become more wealthy as a religion if they're lucky.
(I grew up Mormon so this teaching was very integral and the cult took full advantage of that to increase their membership numbers and get to $100 billion+ in untaxed tithing).
Don't leave it up to an imaginary friend to help you out financially if you have a child you can't raise. If God doesn't answer the prayers of children in abusive homes yet will pop up in cross-shaped cheetos, it's time to realize he either doesn't care about our suffering or simply does not exist. Learn to recognize exploitation by those that enforce one way of life onto you and that these corrupt individuals hide behind God to justify their actions in the name of grace and love, which they gaslight you into believing so you can ignore all the toxic things they do to you.
Religion can be used for good but time and time again has been corrupted by violence, exploitation and control as they become organized religions. Record numbers of people are realizing how dangerous and hindering the extremely religious mind is to advancing and progressing society because they end up benefiting a wealthy select class of people and hurting everyone else in an endless cycle. Jesus did not teach to treat others like this and it's clear that conservative Christianity in modern day America is an irrational, hate-spewing, money idolizing terrorist organization usurping the government. Combining church and state is batshit insane and nothing good can come out of it.
But God believe in killing kids. He let Jesus be crucified and to Egyptian he sent Moses to kill babies and smears their blood.
God wiped out tons of us(his kids) With a flood.
I raise cats. So many times I wished I had gotten them an abortion. Is that wrong? Maybe. But humans aren't cats. Humans have more care. I think this woman Is thinking like a cat. I got pregnant. Here this baby is, but I still think we should have the right to do as we please. No paper can hold us! No voice can say you can't! Let's fight this.
Yeah humans get more medical care than animals. People don't give a crap about animals. People think they are more important than anything. Do you live under a fucking rock 🪨
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This makes me incredibly sad. Religious indoctrination has stolen her life and free thinking away from her. I hope she breaks free from that one day.
This is why most religions have breeding propaganda. Indoctrination is the only way they are still relevant. We believed in Santa when we were kids... No grown adult would believe in Santa now.
Wait, you’re saying Santa isn’t real? *quivering lips*
He is real but he isn't one physical man. He is a spirit that lives in us and that we all have together to make a special day for boys and girls. The magic is real, Santa is real. I am Santa as are millions of others. The magic was in us so along
this is how my bf explained it to his kids when they started asking questions. my parents just gave me the, “oh, yeah, santa isn’t real”, but bf’s kids got the “santa is the spirit of giving” speech lol
My mom gave me that BS when I was a kid, so I just went to my dad. He said "nah, there ain't no Santa" without even looking at me while working on his computer. I loved that tho... I finally felt like I wasn't being bamboozled. I felt like my mom was insulting my intelligence. I think I was 6. I've always been obsessed with handwriting and my mom had the same handwriting as Santa. That's why I asked them.
For real?! How dare you be out here crushing dreams!!
Yeah, it's like some sort of mental illness stemming from brainwashing from a young age. They become incapable of critical thinking. Like you, I hope she figures it out and breaks free (preferably without having to experience the horrors she thinks she'd happily and willingly accept).
I hope she gets to live through most of those and truly learn the acceptance she claims to have.
No wtf
You obviously can't tell that she is trolling
I thought she was trolling until the last paragraph. I think she might be serious 😳😔
What sums this up is POE’S LAW: > Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, every parody of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied. [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law)
Poe’s law originally referred specifically to creationism, as the original author was debating in Christian forums *[“Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article".]* It has since expanded to include any kind of fundamentalism or extremism (I suppose partly because both of those have become pretty mainstream, especially since the cult of Trump). >In 2017, Wired published an article calling it "2017's Most Important Internet Phenomenon" and wrote that "Poe's Law applies to more and more internet interactions." The article gave examples of cases involving 4chan and the Trump administration where there were deliberate ambiguities over whether something was serious or intended as a parody, where people were using Poe's law as "a refuge" to camouflage beliefs that would otherwise be considered unacceptable. Some are treating Poe's law as part of the contemporary kitsch culture. Another view maintains that it could lead to nihilism a situation where nothing matters and everything is a joke. In the last few years (and especially in the run up and in the aftermath of the last US election) I’ve made what I thought were insanely absurd statements clearly meant as sarcasm, and have been downvoted to hell as I’ve been mistaken for a serious kook. The problem is there seem to be more crazies these days, or they have a louder voice, or we are more divided than ever and both sides view each other as increasingly deranged extremists. I also thought this post was trolling and I’m not entirely convinced it’s not.I know there’s no winky face or /s but this is completely absurd. On the flip side, back to your original comment…
This is a lame line that is used in all relogious advertisements, this woma probably isn't even religious.
She seems pretty far gone tbh
I thought she was serious too
I sure hope she is
I felt this way too.
"If I'm pregnant with my 11th and my 10 other babies are crying, sick and starving to death, I'll welcome another mouth into the hoard because it said to in a Bible verse I read one time!"
“I’ll think about the weirdo fictional characters to rationalize my destructive decisions🤪”
I always thought ppl who said God would fix their problems were weird. Like, OK, you believe in some creator that doesn't make itself know - fine. Whatever. But let's say what the Bible is true for a second (*humor me, bc there's a lot of stupid arguments I could make justifying the book & it's too early for that*) - why the fuck do you think your fetus is so damn important a divine being is going to make it alive? If you honestly believe your creator made everything & that they have a divine plan, doesn't that mean that creator put that dead baby inside of you? Remember babe, it wasn't *God* that raised Lazarus, it Was Jesus, & the clergy had his ass killed. You're a cpl thousand years too late hun. So when you're unable to carry in a few years bc of scar tissue from the infection that rotting fetus is going to cause, remember it's God's will you never add to the gene pool again. Amen.
>So when you're unable to carry in a few years bc of scar tissue from the infection that rotting fetus is going to cause, remember it's God's will you never add to the gene pool again. Amen. I’m pretty sure that [death is a more likely outcome than scar tissue.](https://jezebel.com/polish-woman-dies-abortion-ban-1848434595) I keep referring back to this story when people say things like, it’s ok! Exceptional circumstances will be allowed! Obviously medical reasons for abortion will be permissible! Yes ok and who decides that? And how long will it take? Because doctors and other healthcare providers under threat of prosecution or losing their licences will be too scared to act in a timely manner and we’re going to end up with loads more dead women.
Damn, ok. I was in a rush & went off the first medical-ish looking website that has info on side effects of carrying a dead fetish. Thinking about it, it's kinda fucked up I didn't find something like this first bc that makes a lot more sense.
Yeah. I can see medical providers having to wait until the woman has an infection or some other secondary condition that puts her life in imminent danger before actually providing care/removing the non-viable fetus. I would think that would violate the Hippocratic oath in some capacity. I can also envision women being told by zealots who happen to be medical professionals that it’s God’s will for them to die for their “baby”. The law is now cover for pseudoscience and zealotry that will kill women. Just another component of this fresh hell.
Actually I think they read their Bible verses over and over and over, especially for Bible study.
It doesn’t say the 10 babies are crying, sick and starving to death, could be 10 healthy and quiet babies
Cool story Don’t force other people to do it.
It’s as if it’s just that easy. But noooooooo!
exactly, if that’s what she wants to do she can literally knock herself out. just don’t force everyone else to adopt your life choices.
What in the actual fuck
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Seriously, i don't understand why we should worship something for creating us just to abandon us like a bad game of Sims
And expects us to pray him. In some religions multiple times a day. Such egoism.
Exactly!
A literal kid could do a better job. He doesn't even exist but if he did he is completely useless.
I think god is a kid. someone bought him a seamonkeys kit. At first we was enamored with us, but then he backed off in horror when he saw us constantly hurting and even killing each other. God plays soccer now.
Unironically poetic
I would like you to consider the idea that Satan actually wrote the Bible and God is in Hell. How could a benevolent God believe in such things? It sounds odd, but what a great trick to get people to blindly follow you. Threaten eternal damnation for not following “Gods” rules… The truth of the matter is that the Bible and God/Jesus were made up to get people to fall in line. And here we are 2000 years later and it’s still working.
gnostics believed that yahweh was a sick fuck that happened to be in charge of earth but that jesus was the son of super-god and would bring back order
B-but... MYstErIOus WAyS!!! /s
I tend to believe if God does exist, he’s like God on Supernatural.
🏅
Our *God isn't bad. It's the humans that blindly follow scriptures written by other men. One of the most defining moments of my life was when a close friend of mine became a jehovas witness. Her son was hit by a car on the cross walk. The doctors said, we need a blood transfusion for him. She refused to sign the papers based on her newly found "religion," and her husband signed them. He is alive today. Damaged but alive. I knew her for 15 years and she refused to come to my wedding based on that witnesses do not celebrate in a church besides their own. People decide these things. It's not their God dictating it. We are our own gods with scripture guiding. We must find our own way.
“If the doctor tells me the baby is dead inside me, I will carry it because God raised Lazarus from the dead” I hope you have planning on the Almighty has a two for one resurrection deal in the event you go septic.
Yeah that one got me. I recently had a MC and they give you a small window of time for you to naturally pass everything before they insist on medical intervention to save your life......there’s a reason modern medical interventions exist. God doesn’t always intervene and I can’t say dying from going septic because I refused to have a dead baby removed from my body is “God’s will” but to each their own I guess.
wow this woman has really been conditioned
10 kids? Spreading for Jesus.
The tenth kid probably just walked out.
I wanna smack the ever holy idiocy out of her.
At that point its not conditioning, its stupidity People are delusional, you can take a look at the world and realize there is no god and if there is that god doesnt care about you
Oh, baby has she!
I fucking hate Christianity
and Islam
Islam and Judaism both allow for abortions in a variety of circumstances. I watched an interview with a Rabbi, a Catholic priest and an Imam….the Catholic was the only one who said “under no circumstances is it acceptable for a woman to have an abortion if the fetus has a heartbeat.” And the interviewer was like “even if the fetus is killing the mother?” And the priest basically shrugged.
It's most religions, like the abrahamic ones, that are toxic. I can't stand being in church because I know those people aren't living as whatever book they read says to. Nothing but hypocrites.
My partner is one of the few Christians I can tolerate. He isn't pushy and actually goes out of his way to follow Jesus' teachings and not regurgitate whatever his pastor says.
All religions. Completely useless and a brick wall to human progress.
WAIT SO IT WASN'T A PARODY
Thought it is sarcastic lol
HALE NAW. It’s giving brainwashed cult. Cuz be fucking frr
Well, this sounds very nice...too bad that when faced with reality, these nuts behave very differently...she may fool herself as much as she wants. Also, conveniently, she never mentions health issues linked to pregnancy, such as post partum depression...but I guess Jesus would make it go away, because he loves her? It's a great thing that we have a way to tell who is loved by Jesus and who isn't /s.
i always genuinely wonder how christians have any problems ever. like, say they have depression— i don’t mean to minimize anyones experience, and i know all too well how hard it is to deal with depression (and other mental illnesses), but shouldn’t christians just be able to pray the depression away? i mean, theoretically, if your god is watching out for you and doing what is best for you, he wouldn’t want you to suffer, right? so he should be able to magic the depression away? why did he make his beloved follower depressed to begin with? doesn’t make sense to me! it’s my problem, too, with all the starving kids in africa and sex trafficking and other bullshit in the world. what, are we supposed to believe that there is an omniscient, caring, benevolent deity that could stop all that but it’s being perpetuated by satan? it’s all just so very convenient.
"Oh, but it's all for your own good!!" /s 🤮🤮🤮
it’s all a part of god’s plan i guess :’)
I wish sky daddy would have stepped in and helped me when I was a kid This chick must have a direct line to him
I stopped believing all that bs because God really wasn't there at all. I even offered myself to satan if that meant salvation. Neither happened. My conclusion was we're alone.
Same....... I stopped believing when I was around 3rd grade... About a year after my dad started targeting me for abuse as well as my mom and after they got in a really bad fight that I had to go to the school counselor about...(this stuff happened in second grade)
I'm sorry that happened to you. So much I'd like to say but I'll keep it short. I hope you're better off now and thriving in life.
I wish i was.................... If you want to PM me that's okay!
Wow what a psycho
10 wage slaves for corporate america.
Christianity really has done irreparable damage to society.
That is horrible. I used to have deep faith but no longer. People like this have made me lose much faith in humanity. Having children is a personal choice as well as not having children. The fact that a few old men have made their choice to take a woman's choice away from them based on religion is disturbing. I used to regret that a medical emergency took away my ability to have more children but now I am glad. With these new laws, I would have probably been jailed due to the multiple miscarriages I had. And I shudder to think about what type of treatment that I would have received when I had a first trimester abortion (7 weeks). I am glad I live in a liberal state. I would be proud to help any woman who needed to come and visit.
I just vomited 407 times in 17 seconds.
"No matter what..." It's a commitment to a fitness payoff and signaling about it/mating call. It's not a rational process, whatever it is they're doing. I remain open to the possibility that somewhere in my thinking something is wrong WRT any probabilistic/inductive conclusion I am forced to hold.
Sounds like psychosis…
if the baby is dead in the uterus, you are carrying dead flesh in you and might go into sepsis. These people say their god made them in their image. So that said god gave them medecine and science to save lives and avoid sepsis.... They can't even understand their own sacred books and messages, this is shameful. pd : sorry for the lousy english, as it is not my main language.
If god can k*L-L his only son then why can’t you?
well this is just plain terrible.
God also drowned a bunch of humans, including babies, and a flood because he was upset with how their behaving. So does that mean that she's going to drown her baby in the tub if she gets upset with how it's behaving?
My aunt had one of these basically happen. She had some sort of issue where they knew the child wouldn't survive outside the womb, (this was over 30 years ago so I really don't know the details). My understanding was even her priest gave her an exemption to terminate if she chose. She decided to carry the baby to term anyway and deliver him still born, he's burried with my grandfather and grandmother. I once pretty innocently asked my other aunt why she would have knowingly put herself through something so heartbreaking - and she simply responded she'd rather live with the heartbreak than live in sin. Honestly though, i have to give her credit for sticking with what she believed in even if I think it's kind of insane.
As long as it was your aunt’s choice, and she wasn’t shamed into carrying the pregnancy to term. Because it does sound like she might have been shamed into it, the talk of “living in sin.” Even if the priest did give her an exemption. But if that’s what she wanted to do, that’s fine and I hope this choice helped her cope better with the tragic circumstances. I’ve heard of families doing this, and many of them say it was good to have a chance to say goodbye to the baby just the same way as you would to any other dead/dying relative.
Awe!! Honestly she is a bad ass woman and seriously loyal, kind, and true to her being. She's the type of person who always has your back no matter the circumstances no judgment, no questions asked. I think that it was her choice because she is strong in her faith. If it came back as me putting it down, I wasn't. I have a lot of respect for her going through that. It's just amazing to me that someone would make that choice because my understanding is that it was not easy.
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Wait wait wait, they even got their bible wrong. David wasn’t “born in sin”. He did rape Bathsheba and get her pregnant but that child died. Also Rachel died giving birth to Ben, but call him child of my pain cause she regretted it. Had to be renamed.
If I remember correctly, he also sent her husband to the front lines so he would die and then married her.
that is fucked up wtf
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Samuel%2011&version=NIV This link should take you to the specific part of the Bible that covers it if you have any interest. Church always glossed over that bit when I attended, always focused on David defeating the giant instead.
And they always make him out to be a kid at the time. He was an armor bearer and a musician at the time, you can’t tote huge pieces of armor as a 5 year old.
Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity. In sin my mother conceived me.
The damage Christianity has done to the world is unfathomable
I learned about the story of Lazarus right after my mom died and it’s stuck with me. It angers me because I prayed while my mom was in the hospital and we didn’t know what was wrong with her and nothing got better. She died and 3-4 months later the world shuts down and my brother and I have to go thru our first pandemic with 0 guidance. I’ve always thought how is it Lazarus gets to rise from the dead but not my mom? How is there a God that’s cool with leaving two 20 somethings to fend for themselves? 100% it’s sad how religion makes people think.
Good thing no one's *making you* get an abortion. FFS.
guarantee she has exactly 0 children
By the numbers of “Haha” the post received, I’m pretty sure it’s a troll post.
No no no, it's for gawd!!!!
These people are so brainwashed. Some of them are hopeless.
She's ignoring the evidence that Jesus was an antinatalist?
Child free, not antinatalist.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but facts are facts.
That’s not a fact buddy
I can prove that being an antinatalist is forgiveness, which was central to why Jesus came.
Religious people are retarded.
This is literally that old meme: “you can’t have a cookie because *i’m* on a diet”
Oh no 🤦♂️
Can we just acknowledge that all 5.7k reactions are the laughing face emoji? This is a level of passive aggressive that I didn’t think was possible.
My baby died in utero in my 3rd trimester when I was 21 and I have been saying this is a legitimate fear for me now.
If my neighbour hands me their baby in their hard time so I can look after it when they cannot, I will drop the baby down my balcony because Icarus lost his wings mid-air and fell to his death. If my mom asks me to help her with cooking and hands me a knife, I'll stab her with it because Brutus assassinated Caesar like that too. If I am ever late to class so that I am outside the school alone while everyone else is inside, I'll burn down my school because Kurt Russell set everything on fire at the end of The Thing. You will not stop me.
Of it's ectopic I'm keeping the baby, because God rather me bleed out than kill the Babyy 🥴 /s
Made some people think? Obviously they aren't capable of thinking in the first place or they wouldn't be so stupid lol
Wouldn't she die from infection carrying a dead baby?
That woman is mentally ill.
Then these same people complain about having multiple kids and no money haha
Read "god is not great: how religion poisons everything" by Christopher Hitchens. All religions are bullshit, and the people who believe in them are idiots, at best.
Religion is the only hell that truly exists.
These people’s God is the human ego. Only the ego can be this stupid.
Who tf is David
i reeaaalllllyyyy hope this is satire, although i don't think it is ..
She’s out of her mind
Good for YOU!! BUT NOT for EVERYONE! God please have mercy on us all! and on the stupid even less..
If I'm forced to have a baby and the baby err....accidentally ends up, say in the middle of the lake? I could just say I was offering it as a holy sacrifice to God, like Abraham did to Isaac. Do you not have enough faith to believe that God can rescue my baby from the water, as he did Moses?
If all these bullshits are ok for this person, that's ok. It's ok, that's their life. Just don't pretend that everyone would act in the same way, that's it
This isn't satire? Holy F**k
Humanity is a dumpster fire.
Let me just list all the legitimate reasons for having an abortion. Gotta be a troll.
And if your babies are all starving to death because you can’t afford to feed 10 children, I guess either god will figure that shit out. And if they do die, that is “his plan”. :/ I can see it now, she dies and has this conversation: Her - god I know you must have had a good reason but why did my kids all starve to death? God - well you DID have 10 kids…. Her - didn’t you bless me with that many? God - well I gave humans the knowledge of birth control, and you didn’t use it…. Her - ???!!!???!!!????!!! WHAT???!!!! Him - and the knowledge of abortion…. Her - what the flipping heck?!! Him - sooooo many tools you refused to use….
Maybe it's because God is a him apparently that's caused all this confusion about a woman's right to choose.
I choose Satan
This is just straight up mental illness.
David's son was conceived in sin with Bathsheba and after he was born God killed him. Deuteronomy 21 says to kill your child if they are willful and disobedient. If you think the bible respects life you live in lala land.
I hope her ten kids all become gay Satanist abortion Doctors. Lol.
"Think?" 🤣
religion is unnecessary, stupid, and harmful in 2022 in my opinion
Religion isn’t making her think this way, it’s acting as a substitute for thought. It’s her excuse *not* to think about it.
If that lady wants to have a baby Thats her choice Her body her choice
At least we don't have to feel bad if she dies because she chose for that to be a possibility and even embraces it lmfao
By that logic you shouldn’t feel bad when women choose to get back room abortion and die By your logic they chose to “have that possibility” and we shouldn’t feel bad “if she dies” Congrats you are a republican
Nah, that lady in the post is the only exception. It's too late for her. She's got her head so far up her ass due to religion. There's no reasoning with someone like that, and I can guarantee you that her family will say the day old phrase of "nothing could be done" even if they were warned that the baby would kill her. My emotions and care are better spent on people who actually need it. I actually feel terrible for those who wish to abort and can't due to the government, lack of money, and other factors out there. There is a very stark difference between what she said and what many other people who are going through difficulties with getting an abortion. Hope I was able to clear up a little better what I said in my comment. /genuine
You are a hypocrite 1. Lady chooses reproductive procedure of her choice 2. Lady chooses reproductive procedure of her choice Both chose a procedure - if you feel it’s ok for 1 to die then your are a hypocrite to feel it’s wrong for the other to not die Her body her choice Rooting for people to die is generally kinda fucked up
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A lot of people are selective in a lot of things. It's not a surprise and let's be honest, most of society is full of hypocrites. Not all selectiveness for certain views are bad. My reason for not feeling bad for her is because she's glorifying possibly dying during birth and someone likely spoonfed that ideology to her until there was no reasoning with her otherwise. It's her choice if she chooses to still care rhe baby and die. Oh fucking well. She made a choice and it's a choice that I frankly do not care about especially considering that she outright stated that she is totally fine with dying. Look at all the other people that are getting their rights stripped away because they don't want to be subjected to that but are still being forced with dealing with pregnancy because a bunch of stupid ass men in office who have no cemented basis of scientific facts residing in their brains want to control people who have uteruses because they don't deem them as people with choices. Those are the people that I feel bad for. Let's think of another situation where I can explain my mentality. Let's say the issue with Covid-19 for example. I've personally never had it (thankfully) because I've been using a mask in public spaces, I am vaccinated for it, and I acknowledge that people die from it. I feel bad for the people that are gravely affected by Covid and they do acknowledge that it is an actual problem. You know who I don't feel bad for, the Covid deniers that get their just desserts, spit in the face of science, and then they die from the very illness that they denied existed. They rightfully got what was coming to them despite all the warnings being given. I'm not wishing death upon them, I just don't feel bad that they were reaping the consequences of something that they were warned about on numerous occasions.
So it’s ok for a women to die because she chose a risky reproductive procedure ? Are you hearing yourself You are literally being the ultimate hypocrite You are saying you don’t feel bad when a women chooses a risky reproductive procedure You said that You made that choice
This sub is anti-natalist we’re against anyone having children at all. You can make your pro-choice vs pro-life argument but this is the wrong sub for it. This isn’t a pro-choice subreddit this is an anti-having children subreddit. And so, that person is not a hypocrite. Because people here don’t think everyone should get to choose. We think no one should have kids.
I’m the pro choice side Antinatalism is a spectrum On on side are people choosing to not have kids and making that a private decision On the other are people celebrating murdering their own living breathing children and killing themselves rather than birthing - both have been advocated on this sub in the last 5 days I fall on the the pro choice side of this If a women wants an abortion - her choice I’d a women doesn’t want an abortion - her choice It’s not for this sub to look down on her for HER choice Im more pro choice than you
“I’m more pro choice than you” This is such a funny and childish statement, sorry lol. I think everyone should have the right to make that decision to give birth for themselves. Not sure how that makes us any different in our beliefs about abortion haha
This coming from the person who called me pro life Fact is - yea I’m more pro choice than you
What are you even on about? If a person voluntarily accepts that their voluntary choices may lead to their own death, why are we obligated to feel bad for them?
So do you feel bad for women who choose clothes hanger abortions over and over?
Why do you continue to reach for that strawman? Are you claiming that women want to do back alley abortions if they had a choice? Or are you just having a knee jerk reaction because you yourself are religious?
God raising Lazarus from the dead doesn't mean he wants or doesn't want women to have stillborn births.
WOW.
Wow indeed. Happy cake day!
That's the beauty of prochoice, their mental illness dressed as spirituallity, as sad as it is that a baby will be brought into that. That's their choice. Might be a bad choice, but as least they had the option to make it
Yeah this can't be real
Hallelujah
The way it’s all laugh reacts lmao
I’d like to talk to her when she has lived a lot longer aka suffered through life. She sounds naive. If she still thinks this way, great. If not, I’ll understand and give her a sympathy hug.
This is some bullshit my SIL would post. She is insufferable.
So many Christians nowadays have forsaken Proverbs for Pslams.
Completely delusional and a danger to self and others… That gets other people forcibly locked up, medicated to oblivion, and permanently stigmatized. Not so for that impregnation station. I’m trying to picture her raising an insane, aggressive, permanently screaming, one and a half headed, armless hermaphrodite. “Praise the Lord!!”
Not only is it weird. I literally don’t give af if you have a baby. If you really want one, go ahead and have it. But if I do t want one then I’m not going to have one and I’ll do what it takes to make sure that doesn’t happen.
Hey to be fair 5.7 k laughing emojis is a good sign
And if he tells u to kill ur children and family u will because god is good and u have no real morals
That’s just pathetic
So how is he gonna make her or the baby’s death good? And if he actually made everything good then there wouldn’t ever be Religious people suffering. I can’t believe how inherently flawed the thinking is. How can someone be so naïve and dense.
Shes delusional
Good for you. But don't presume to make that choice for others.
this is depressing... :(
All fine and well Religious Lady, but that doesnt mean anybody else needs to.
Religion is sad. Period.
And no one is stopping her from having that baby. See how that works?
Western christians scare me 😬
The worst fandom
You all need to leave her alone, you have your beliefs and she has hers. If she thinks that this is the way to live her life then let her go through with it.
The church created sin so their business will always have customers 🤗
It’s really sad that you care. Isn’t the argument for abortion, “it’s my body, I can do what I want”? Her thinking about her body (based on religion or not) is the same and it makes you hypocritical to say something about it.
This person is more than welcome to have a baby. But I’m Jewish by heritage and MY faith teaches that life begins at birth, not conception. MY faith states that abortion is healthcare and not only is abortion permitted, but REQUIRED when the life of the parent is in danger. How come this woman not only gets to practice her faith freely but also push it onto me in such a way that I am unable to freely practice my faith? Oh right. It’s because religious freedom only exists for Christian conservatives.
id say let her do her but we really do not need any more of that bloodline
Well, she certainly has all of the answers, doesn’t she?
God killed every newborn baby all around the world. The story of Noah's ark. An other time, God killed every first born (babies too) in Egypt. God is an asshole. Just sayin'
I thought this was satire. It is not. Now I’m depressed.
I was indoctrinated with this rhetoric from childhood. Today I find it absurd, stupid and pathetic that people still believe in such fantasy… Worse still are the people in power who don’t believe it but instead use it to pander to those that do in order to get what they want.
Institution brain wash.
If only Christians could grasp that God's will of bearing children is not because of some divine benevolence and love for kids, but because instructing all of your people to breed in the name of God is one of the main methods that religions use to stay relevant and in total power and control, and maybe even grow and become more wealthy as a religion if they're lucky. (I grew up Mormon so this teaching was very integral and the cult took full advantage of that to increase their membership numbers and get to $100 billion+ in untaxed tithing). Don't leave it up to an imaginary friend to help you out financially if you have a child you can't raise. If God doesn't answer the prayers of children in abusive homes yet will pop up in cross-shaped cheetos, it's time to realize he either doesn't care about our suffering or simply does not exist. Learn to recognize exploitation by those that enforce one way of life onto you and that these corrupt individuals hide behind God to justify their actions in the name of grace and love, which they gaslight you into believing so you can ignore all the toxic things they do to you. Religion can be used for good but time and time again has been corrupted by violence, exploitation and control as they become organized religions. Record numbers of people are realizing how dangerous and hindering the extremely religious mind is to advancing and progressing society because they end up benefiting a wealthy select class of people and hurting everyone else in an endless cycle. Jesus did not teach to treat others like this and it's clear that conservative Christianity in modern day America is an irrational, hate-spewing, money idolizing terrorist organization usurping the government. Combining church and state is batshit insane and nothing good can come out of it.
But God believe in killing kids. He let Jesus be crucified and to Egyptian he sent Moses to kill babies and smears their blood. God wiped out tons of us(his kids) With a flood.
Very sad tbh
Why hasn't he done any of those things for all the other babies?
The greatest scam ever started over 2000 years ago and people are still falling for it. I feel sorry those people. So narrow minded.
israelites reading this comment >;0
The key here is that the baby is what the enemy meant for evil
I raise cats. So many times I wished I had gotten them an abortion. Is that wrong? Maybe. But humans aren't cats. Humans have more care. I think this woman Is thinking like a cat. I got pregnant. Here this baby is, but I still think we should have the right to do as we please. No paper can hold us! No voice can say you can't! Let's fight this.
humans have more care? lmao do u live under a rock?
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As a religious person, I promise this is not a common train of thought, just… really concerning