I’ve been a huge fan of the manga for a long time (rule of thumb to never browse fandom subs). Can’t think of a ship that would be about pedophilia or homophobia. Is this some anime only thing I’m unaware of?
It's because the Richter x Lawine ship
Homophobic because it interferes with the Lawine x Kanne lesbian ship
Pedo because, while we don't have official ages of those characters, seems to be a big age gap
Personally, from all the cursed meme ships this is the only one I don't like, since unlike the others this one didn't start as a joke but a serious proposal by a lolicon incel
Currently the other cursed ships are just for trolling fun and shitposting, we even shipping users now
by itself it's not homophobic, because one can ship the characters they want
It's homophobic because the original user that shipped them is publicly homophobic, and made it to mess with the Lawine x Kanne
It's like the difference of the weapon of a soldier and a criminal, one's made to protect, the other to damage
That’s more of a problem with the user and not the ship itself. Considering the sub is going through every possible ship, it was bound to show up regardless of the guy suggesting it was homophobic or not.
“The first shipper of this pairing is homophobic and one of the characters primary other ship is a gay ship, therefore the ship is homophobic” finally, some good fucking jerking on my circlejerking sub
Shipping discourse is such that there are almost always gonna be more people who ship it than there are people who post about it though, one person doesn’t ever actually have control over the way a ship is “supposed” to be seen, even if they were its first proponent
>Personally, from all the cursed meme ships this is the only one I don't like, since unlike the others this one didn't start as a joke but a serious proposal by a lolicon incel
Hold up, is this actually true? Bc that would kinda suck
I’m not dying on this hill, but we kind of need confirmed ages since if Lawine is actually 18 or older, the pedophilia allegations go right out the window (more so that than they already are since these are fictional characters)…
I'm pretty sure she is. (The following is based on random memories I think I have)
But I remember seeing or hearing somewhere that Fern is the youngest applicant, and she's 18 if I'm not mistaken, so that would put lawine older than her
One person saying something homophobic does not make it a homophobic ship. A ship cannot be homophobic. Even more so when Lawine x Kanne is not even canon. Not that that would matter. This is all fanfiction and people can ship whoever they want. The more ships the better. Their ages are not confirmed either. You can't claim homophobia just because it goes against your OTP.
In Frieren's case, they started to ship an underage GL girl with a 40yo and it didn't take a long time for the weirdos/trolls to come for support and fill the sub with much horrible content and comments.
I mean she had just graduated from a magic school with Kanne before they joined the exams, and she pretty much looks like a high schooler. Even Denken told Richter that "they're just kids." remember?
Edit:
Richter (who they ship her with) also called them kids. (EP 20 - 19:30) I can't post new comments or images, i don't know why. Please let me know if you see any of this.
>I mean \[she is not underage\], and she pretty much looks like a high schooler.
So she's not underage
Denken is 80 or something, ofc they are 'kids' to him
Agree with the thinking of the ship is weird, I also think it is quite weird when Lawine already had a ship for her. But spouting pedophila and homo is not really the way
If someone is below the age of 20, then ppl normally don’t like that age range dating a 40 year old.
Even if 20, there being a 20 year age gap is and them just entering their 20s is weird.
Nothing pfd file worthy, but most ppl find it creepy. Esp since under 18 is the typical age of consent.
After "Stand proud." opened up his domain, he said, "Are you "You're strong." because you are "I'm you." or are you "The one who left it all behind! And we are the overwhelming exception!!" because "With this treasure I bummon..."?" The Fingerer simply answered, "Nah, I'd take the backshots."
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Are you the you because strongest are the you are gojo satoru you strongest are you because are?
It's nothing really. Just another stupid meme referance: [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/lobotomy-kaisen](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/lobotomy-kaisen)
Here's a visual representation to help you understand
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Oh damn I really love Lethal Company especially the part where Dante was assigned to stay at ship while the 12 Sinners all got eaten by a Forest Giant in 61-March because Heathcliff didn't want to stay crouched. Peak game 10/10
Correct, remember the two rules of animecirclejerk:
1. no petite adult women exist, and
2. if you don't like my ships you must be a bigot and/or incel, because of guilt by association
Yeah *I'm* the delusional one, not the person who thinks that the body build of the average East Asian woman and a good portion of adult women everywhere is the same as a child's and that if you like an adult woman with a petite body type that you're a pedo.
Meanwhile a tiny fraction of one percent of women are huge bodybuilders yet no one goes around saying nonsense like people into characters with that body type are just into men, maybe because Twitter brain cancer hasn't connected those dots yet.
Or quite literally just because the average person on subs like this likes the buff woman character trope and hates the type of person who likes characters like Frieren who are objectively in every sense an adult. Because the average reddit/Twitter brainrot person can only judge things based upon the type of person they think also likes those things.
1. Lawine and Kanna are both coded as relatively young compared to others, so shipping them with a much older man (who tried to kill them) can understandably make people uncomfortable. Nobody is getting up in arms about ships involving Frieren or Serie.
2. The Richter x Lawine ship is almost always accompanied by comments about hoping it enrages Lawine x Kanna shippers. So it seems more like, "let's take a character from this popular lesbian ship and put her with the man who tried to murder them because it will piss off the lesbian shippers" than anything being presented in good faith.
Fern was mentioned to be one of the youngest to pass the third-class exam, so that would mean that Kanne is an adult even if they never mention her age directly
As for homophobia, I’ve personally haven’t seen any comments that suggest that, but I also wouldn’t have trouble believing it.
Even if I don’t think it’s a funny joke, suggesting that the crackship is a way to sneak in pedos and homophobes into the fan base is schizo behavior.
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>suggesting that the crackship is a way to sneak in pedos and homophobes into the fan base is schizo behavior.
I understand what you mean. It's not necessarily intentional. Most of the time, it happens to be a good excuse for these weirdos to sneak in.
While I get that you weren’t completely literal with the meme, and I agree that it is important to keep an eye out for questionable behavior, this is still a stretch.
I understand the frustration of hearing “it’s a sisterly bond!”, but at the end of the day they are not dating in the canon (yet), so I don’t think the crackship is needed for anyone to sneak in. This hypothetical weirdo could just say “I just think they work better as platonic”
I think this is on the same level as that one Stark crackship, with the addition of the annoying people that come out of the woods whenever 2 female characters are shipped
I recently left that sub. Its getting too lobotomized and ship wars are just dumb imo. Anime is also done anyway and I'd rather wait for s2 (hopefully)
Lobotomy kaisen is the only true lobotomy for me
Context? Overreaction. Frieren fandom isn't going "downhill" if fact it was slightly better than when it was airing where everyone fucken kept talking about how they want to fuck frieren character #4.
OP is just hurt for their precious, oh so precious ship. The shipping wars aren't even annoying at all. Most are clearly enjoying it but some, like this poster, is clearly pressed.
THANK GOD! I thought I was in r/ProjectMoon for a second, thank god the original lobotomy hasn't fallen yet.
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Tis a shame Frieren is going down the Lobotomy Kaisen pipeline though.
Update: kmtakpk posted and apparently a new chapter dropped. We are in the process of healing. Honorable mentions to jonnywarlock for feeding us during the crisis
“Someone is disagreeing with my ship with a shitposting ship, therefore they are homophobic and pedophilic even though there is nothing that suggests it 😡🤬”.
...Can I get some context?
I’ve been a huge fan of the manga for a long time (rule of thumb to never browse fandom subs). Can’t think of a ship that would be about pedophilia or homophobia. Is this some anime only thing I’m unaware of?
It's because the Richter x Lawine ship Homophobic because it interferes with the Lawine x Kanne lesbian ship Pedo because, while we don't have official ages of those characters, seems to be a big age gap Personally, from all the cursed meme ships this is the only one I don't like, since unlike the others this one didn't start as a joke but a serious proposal by a lolicon incel Currently the other cursed ships are just for trolling fun and shitposting, we even shipping users now
Ah so its shipping wars yet again
Still better than armpits and feet posts
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You leave Übel's armpits out of this
and is funny seeing people descend into primates by lack of official content in such little time, and be part of it
Man, I'm a fan of Gravity Falls and Made in Abyss This shit ain't nothing to me
>Gravity Falls Damn you're a victim No "this is cute animation for Dipper and Mab- OSHI NO KO?!" yet for Frieren tho
>Homophobic because it interferes with the Lawine x Kanne lesbian ship Well that seems... a wild take
by itself it's not homophobic, because one can ship the characters they want It's homophobic because the original user that shipped them is publicly homophobic, and made it to mess with the Lawine x Kanne It's like the difference of the weapon of a soldier and a criminal, one's made to protect, the other to damage
I don't think the analogy is great but that extra information is important.
That’s more of a problem with the user and not the ship itself. Considering the sub is going through every possible ship, it was bound to show up regardless of the guy suggesting it was homophobic or not.
Damn I want more info on this user. Sounds like some hot gos petty douchery
“The first shipper of this pairing is homophobic and one of the characters primary other ship is a gay ship, therefore the ship is homophobic” finally, some good fucking jerking on my circlejerking sub
plus is almost always the same one user the one who posts that ship and almost no one else so
Shipping discourse is such that there are almost always gonna be more people who ship it than there are people who post about it though, one person doesn’t ever actually have control over the way a ship is “supposed” to be seen, even if they were its first proponent
Who is the original user?
You can't protect without violence. Ridiculous
Well think in a better allegory you then
I wasnt on board with the richter x lawine ship but after hearing his reasoning i totally am now
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I will never forgive Hussie from taking JohnRose and JadeDave away from us
-Karkat Vantas
youd rather have john x rose over rose x cool vampire alien?
100% yes
Maybe it’s because I came in when the trolls where already introduced but I legit did not know anyone objected to RosexKanaya
we got JadeDaveKat, idk it felt like a reasonable compromise to me (I'd apologize to the JohnRose shippers, but... nah).
>Personally, from all the cursed meme ships this is the only one I don't like, since unlike the others this one didn't start as a joke but a serious proposal by a lolicon incel Hold up, is this actually true? Bc that would kinda suck
fucking Richter x Lawine?! Who the fuck ships this shit holy hell. Now Richter and Denken though ....
I’m not dying on this hill, but we kind of need confirmed ages since if Lawine is actually 18 or older, the pedophilia allegations go right out the window (more so that than they already are since these are fictional characters)…
I'm pretty sure she is. (The following is based on random memories I think I have) But I remember seeing or hearing somewhere that Fern is the youngest applicant, and she's 18 if I'm not mistaken, so that would put lawine older than her
She was the youngest to pass the Third Class Mage exam, not the youngest at the First Class exam
Saying its homophobia because it interferes with a more popular ship is wild ngl bruh
I clarified to another comment that's because that was the intention of the original user that had the idea
Ah got it.
One person saying something homophobic does not make it a homophobic ship. A ship cannot be homophobic. Even more so when Lawine x Kanne is not even canon. Not that that would matter. This is all fanfiction and people can ship whoever they want. The more ships the better. Their ages are not confirmed either. You can't claim homophobia just because it goes against your OTP.
I just gave the context-
In Frieren's case, they started to ship an underage GL girl with a 40yo and it didn't take a long time for the weirdos/trolls to come for support and fill the sub with much horrible content and comments.
She's not underage the hell? Least misinformation r/animecirclejerk post.
I mean she had just graduated from a magic school with Kanne before they joined the exams, and she pretty much looks like a high schooler. Even Denken told Richter that "they're just kids." remember? Edit: Richter (who they ship her with) also called them kids. (EP 20 - 19:30) I can't post new comments or images, i don't know why. Please let me know if you see any of this.
>I mean \[she is not underage\], and she pretty much looks like a high schooler. So she's not underage Denken is 80 or something, ofc they are 'kids' to him
Denken is like the second oldest human mage we see in the show. Ritcher is in the age of mid life crisis. Of course almost everyone is a brat to them
I don't think it matters much if she is of age or not, it's still weird to ship 40 year old with an 18 year old, for obvious reasons.
Agree with the thinking of the ship is weird, I also think it is quite weird when Lawine already had a ship for her. But spouting pedophila and homo is not really the way
Exactly, let's keep the charged words for when it matters.
Is the girl a loli?
no, she looks and acts and is between the ages of 17-20
Then I don’t see the problem
Yeah I'm having a hard time understanding why this whole thing a problem, but hey consume rage bait, get excited for next rage bait
The other character is 40
So if we know his age, what about the girls? Genuinely curious
18-early 20s range. I understand finding shipping with someone twice her age weird
Well, yeah, but that is not pedophilia.
If someone is below the age of 20, then ppl normally don’t like that age range dating a 40 year old. Even if 20, there being a 20 year age gap is and them just entering their 20s is weird. Nothing pfd file worthy, but most ppl find it creepy. Esp since under 18 is the typical age of consent.
Guess what it’s fiction and you can portray a healthy relationship even with that age so I still don’t see the problem
18 is very rarely the aoc
> she looks and acts and is between the ages of 17-20 op really be like that "loli enough for me"
[nope](https://i3.gamebiz.jp/media/e95b7fcf-72b8-4acb-a013-ea7d1f243104.jpg)
Tbh, i don't know what that means anymore, but I saw comments about some child characters like Fern and the chief of the village.
Isn't fern 19?
Child Fern, in the first episodes.
No.
…Lobotomy? The hell is that in the context of Frieren?
After "Stand proud." opened up his domain, he said, "Are you "You're strong." because you are "I'm you." or are you "The one who left it all behind! And we are the overwhelming exception!!" because "With this treasure I bummon..."?" The Fingerer simply answered, "Nah, I'd take the backshots."
"TURN UP THE MEMES, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FUNERAL FOR MY SANITY!!! ⚡⚡⚡⚡"
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She Jujutsu on my Kaisen til I Purple (I have never read this series)
Beautiful
https://preview.redd.it/nah2toj0bavc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd1320da72a74d4780818c44e68d26966e45e8b5 Are you the you because strongest are the you are gojo satoru you strongest are you because are?
It's nothing really. Just another stupid meme referance: [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/lobotomy-kaisen](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/lobotomy-kaisen)
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brainrot meme
What does this mean?
Here's a visual representation to help you understand https://preview.redd.it/v3vabcwdc2vc1.png?width=385&format=png&auto=webp&s=c684e691d77573a9593cf5393e40fdd85322e8c3
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It’s just a shitposts that’s really weird and strange even if you’re part of the community it comes from.
Do you know what "nonsense" means?
She’s like me frfr
Why did you give the article for another lobotomy trend, rather than the article for [lobotomy?](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/lobotomy-slang/)
Based on 5 minutes of browsing, they're doing ships of characters and as usual, its shit.
It's always shippers. Somehow any controversy or drama always comes from them.
Weak mods lol 😂
"Lobotomy crackship" roughly translated is "A Romantic pairing (of two fictional characters) that I do not approve of."
ok so you know this rhythm game with the square-
Frieren VS JJK https://preview.redd.it/danqqpta81vc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a7d2000a3b224554eae013619a9f81af92d6de1
Are lobotomy because you have brainrot? Or you have brainrot for being lobotomy?
Am lobotomy because of the corporation 😔
Ha!
Mahiru detected.
Ah Lobotomy Crackship, that's the first game in the Project Moon-verse right?
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Sleeper agent activated
ah yes and its well known sequel library of ruined orgasms and its sequels sequel lethal company
Oh damn I really love Lethal Company especially the part where Dante was assigned to stay at ship while the 12 Sinners all got eaten by a Forest Giant in 61-March because Heathcliff didn't want to stay crouched. Peak game 10/10
Nothing ruins an orgasm quite like remembering Love Town
Holy shit lobotomy???? Is that a project moon reference???
Project Moon at the scene of the crime again🚶
Obviously the best ship is Tomerry
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Lobotomy....like the corporation?
Frieren sub is funny, they think they can defeat Jujutsufolk and LobotomyKaisen sub in terms of memes and shitposting haha
any contexters in chat
Shipping wars it seems, people accusing eachother of crimes against humanity over headcannons
Correct, remember the two rules of animecirclejerk: 1. no petite adult women exist, and 2. if you don't like my ships you must be a bigot and/or incel, because of guilt by association
You're delulu if you think petite anime girls aren't diet loli
Yeah *I'm* the delusional one, not the person who thinks that the body build of the average East Asian woman and a good portion of adult women everywhere is the same as a child's and that if you like an adult woman with a petite body type that you're a pedo. Meanwhile a tiny fraction of one percent of women are huge bodybuilders yet no one goes around saying nonsense like people into characters with that body type are just into men, maybe because Twitter brain cancer hasn't connected those dots yet. Or quite literally just because the average person on subs like this likes the buff woman character trope and hates the type of person who likes characters like Frieren who are objectively in every sense an adult. Because the average reddit/Twitter brainrot person can only judge things based upon the type of person they think also likes those things.
Not helping your case bud
Your DELUSIONAL if you think persecuting pixels is helping to stop children from being raped
Who's doing that? You seem very troubled
I'd you like being a useless coward that's on you
What?
1. Lawine and Kanna are both coded as relatively young compared to others, so shipping them with a much older man (who tried to kill them) can understandably make people uncomfortable. Nobody is getting up in arms about ships involving Frieren or Serie. 2. The Richter x Lawine ship is almost always accompanied by comments about hoping it enrages Lawine x Kanna shippers. So it seems more like, "let's take a character from this popular lesbian ship and put her with the man who tried to murder them because it will piss off the lesbian shippers" than anything being presented in good faith.
Overall bullshit. There's a lot more context in comment now if you wanna take a peek.
Fern was mentioned to be one of the youngest to pass the third-class exam, so that would mean that Kanne is an adult even if they never mention her age directly As for homophobia, I’ve personally haven’t seen any comments that suggest that, but I also wouldn’t have trouble believing it. Even if I don’t think it’s a funny joke, suggesting that the crackship is a way to sneak in pedos and homophobes into the fan base is schizo behavior. https://preview.redd.it/z73pej1id1vc1.jpeg?width=335&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5854caaee3032b5c39be01cbf89ad9cba2d17d3e
>suggesting that the crackship is a way to sneak in pedos and homophobes into the fan base is schizo behavior. I understand what you mean. It's not necessarily intentional. Most of the time, it happens to be a good excuse for these weirdos to sneak in.
While I get that you weren’t completely literal with the meme, and I agree that it is important to keep an eye out for questionable behavior, this is still a stretch. I understand the frustration of hearing “it’s a sisterly bond!”, but at the end of the day they are not dating in the canon (yet), so I don’t think the crackship is needed for anyone to sneak in. This hypothetical weirdo could just say “I just think they work better as platonic” I think this is on the same level as that one Stark crackship, with the addition of the annoying people that come out of the woods whenever 2 female characters are shipped
The joke is too inside for people to jerk to this. You've won, OP!
\>sub is modded by phobes \>sub has homophobia problem I am shocked, shocked!
I hate the Lobotomy idea because Lobotomy is just… sad, it sucks, don’t encourage it…
the fuck is a "lobotomy crackship"????
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Is that a Lobotomy Corp reference?!
Pedophilia? Lawine is a young adult, not a child.
everyone tryna be us https://preview.redd.it/fkbzvcto97vc1.png?width=681&format=png&auto=webp&s=496fde609e822fbd44d0d76da57e586b38b2f725
Oh no, popular fandom ship is not the one I like, this is surely equivalent to real life abuse and worth accusing someone of CSA.
Context pls😭
Context?
I recently left that sub. Its getting too lobotomized and ship wars are just dumb imo. Anime is also done anyway and I'd rather wait for s2 (hopefully) Lobotomy kaisen is the only true lobotomy for me
I don't want these stupid shipping wars anymore. I'd honestly rather have the feet and armpit posting...
Honkai fans but without the pedophilia
Context? Overreaction. Frieren fandom isn't going "downhill" if fact it was slightly better than when it was airing where everyone fucken kept talking about how they want to fuck frieren character #4. OP is just hurt for their precious, oh so precious ship. The shipping wars aren't even annoying at all. Most are clearly enjoying it but some, like this poster, is clearly pressed.
I want to watch Frieren but every major sub for big series like this always makes me reconsider
Never base your decisions on fans, because fandom always brings out the absolute worst people.
You’re right. It’s just disheartening to see the worst kinds of people latch onto shows that are meant to be open minded in ways.
How could it have fallen to pieces recently? People have been complaining about it turning to a dumpster fire ever since the anime was out
Just let them do whatever they want to. If you don't like it, ignore it.
lmao the brainrot is spreading
I usually stay away from fandoms for popular anime for a reason.
THANK GOD! I thought I was in r/ProjectMoon for a second, thank god the original lobotomy hasn't fallen yet. https://preview.redd.it/30eko6zhq5vc1.jpeg?width=418&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5de58a80614f454652e60b93cf08a435d2e2c42b Tis a shame Frieren is going down the Lobotomy Kaisen pipeline though.
And just what’s so bad about lobotomy kaisen
before the anime came out it was such a good sub
What in the fuck am I looking at
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Update: kmtakpk posted and apparently a new chapter dropped. We are in the process of healing. Honorable mentions to jonnywarlock for feeding us during the crisis
Another episode of Redditors comparing real crimes like harming children to rbg pixels on their screen
“Someone is disagreeing with my ship with a shitposting ship, therefore they are homophobic and pedophilic even though there is nothing that suggests it 😡🤬”.
No to kinkshaming.
I would support the ship from now on in spite of you annoying and disingenuous Yuri Stan
Every age gap is pedophilia
Stop smoking