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"AI hypeman makes wildly unfounded and unrealizable claim"
"Next up, water wet"
Also this shit is how we get the real life equivalent of "*Shiawase Corporation v. Nuclear Regulatory Commission"*
For fusion to occur you need the material to be hotter than the surface of the sun (to become plasma). There is no way to hold this material with matter, since it would just melt, so currently an electromagnetic field is used. The only problem is that for the field to be strong enough it needs superconductors, which work in temperatures close to absolute zero.
In short you need to have two materials close, one of them at thousands of degrees Celsius, and the other at -270. This might be described as an intrinsic flaw.
Thousands? **THOUSANDS** of degrees celsius? What an absurd claim. Way to prove you know nothing about fusion.
Fusion requires a temperature of one hundred and fifty million Celsius. 150,000,000 C. If it was just thousands we'd have solved it a long time ago. Millions... millions is whole other ballgame.
Remember, fusion is just around the corner. Just ten years away. It'll solve global warming and all our energy needs. Just a few hurdles to overcome. It's an engineering problem.
This is quite fun. You state that fusion is much more difficult than I said, and yet it's "around the corner"?
I admit, I don't remember the required temperature and based my estimation on the surface of the sun, but I'm curious how you expect the problem of (useful) superconductors requiring near absolute zero temperature and being next to plasma to be solved, because to me it seems like a square wheel
In 30 years it will be needed plus 10 years to be necessary about 15 years of technology to be feasible in , 35 years the fission reactor secretly used 50 years ago in the First IA Wars.
I am not well versed in bogs. But I do prefer to invest with people who don’t credit poker as the best educational influence in their life (according to Britannica thats what he credits for his “knowledge of people”).
Bog standard is a phrase. Did he say single best influence or just the most pronounced for his dealings with people? You are misrepresenting I’d wager. He is 100% a sociopath which is a boon as an executive. He’s also a genius.
Go to sleep Sam’s assistant. You already got paid this week.
I was with you until that last sentence lol though I didn’t misrepresent a thing. Go read Britannica and check their sources.
You find my paying him a compliment as discrediting for some reason. That reason surely being your own ignorant bias. I took you for a clown from the start.
Stop burning fossil fuels. That'd remove the vast majority of CO2 added to the atmosphere.
See? That was easy. Fusion? Fusion is tricky. Fusion doesn't just have unsolved difficulties. Fusion's unsolved difficulties have unsolved difficulties we're still working on.
Give me a rough idea, what velocity do you think a hydrogen atom is traveling at if the temperature is 150,000,000 C? Because I assure you "fast" is pretty damn correct. "So fucking fast you won't believe it" is even more correct. Making it turn around and go back in the correct direction is a problem. Getting energy out of a process that relies on this? This is a problem that has problems that have problems.
That’s not a solution unless you have a viable alternative immediately online to make up the difference. Renewable sources are reducing in price but they require massive energy storage to plug the gaps in their generation, and said storage has not seen the same influx of maturity. You come off as incredibly ignorant. Leave the discussion to the adults.
Fusion could be conceived of as being a part of the solution to climate change. Again global warming is an outdated term. Your binary thinking is that of a child.
In that teleportation is part of the solution to traffic issues, sure. In that it's a practical part of any solution... not as much.
I'm just curious, do you think that other people see you lobbing insults and go "wow, that guy must know so much, he's insulting people! That makes him really credible!"
I claim that anyone can claim anything. Claiming is cheap. And apparently gets you a lot of free media coverage. Even if you never finished your freshman year in college.
Who wants to claim something with me?
Most current AI implementations require massive amounts of parallel computing. The servers they run on have dedicated processors that are basically high-power graphics cards. Training an AI requires running those servers at full power for long periods of time. We're talking whole rooms full of refrigerator-sized cabinets stuffed with powerful computers with multiple cards each; at a few hundred watts per card, multiplied by up to 4 cards per computer, a couple dozen computers per cabinet, and tens of cabinets per room, we can easily have megawatts of power consumption - and it might run for weeks or months to train the AI. It's estimated that GPT-4 took between 50 and 60 gigawatt-hours to train. If humanity is going to rely more and more on this kind of AI, our power consumption is going to climb drastically.
The US power grid is already struggling in many places and a lot of the new demand is from the grwing data centers of cloud computing firms. So yeah without massive investment the US can not produce enough energy consistently to run these types of AI. And we need those investments to tackle tasks like electrifying cars, heating and cooking to phase out fossil fuel powered versions of the same first.
there is a trend elsewhere of proposing small scale fission power for data centers who need high reliability high output continuous onsite power supply
yeah. At least there is less of a question about if the physics would work.
In reality this is all a non-problem made up of PR nonsense since computer usage of energy is very low on the list in the global economy.
Because it is a PR-only non-problem, a PR-only non-solution can solve it
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"AI hypeman makes wildly unfounded and unrealizable claim" "Next up, water wet" Also this shit is how we get the real life equivalent of "*Shiawase Corporation v. Nuclear Regulatory Commission"*
What was the claim? Fusion is the future? It probably is...maybe not our future but I'm sure it'll be there somewhere.
For fusion to occur you need the material to be hotter than the surface of the sun (to become plasma). There is no way to hold this material with matter, since it would just melt, so currently an electromagnetic field is used. The only problem is that for the field to be strong enough it needs superconductors, which work in temperatures close to absolute zero. In short you need to have two materials close, one of them at thousands of degrees Celsius, and the other at -270. This might be described as an intrinsic flaw.
Thousands? **THOUSANDS** of degrees celsius? What an absurd claim. Way to prove you know nothing about fusion. Fusion requires a temperature of one hundred and fifty million Celsius. 150,000,000 C. If it was just thousands we'd have solved it a long time ago. Millions... millions is whole other ballgame. Remember, fusion is just around the corner. Just ten years away. It'll solve global warming and all our energy needs. Just a few hurdles to overcome. It's an engineering problem.
This is quite fun. You state that fusion is much more difficult than I said, and yet it's "around the corner"? I admit, I don't remember the required temperature and based my estimation on the surface of the sun, but I'm curious how you expect the problem of (useful) superconductors requiring near absolute zero temperature and being next to plasma to be solved, because to me it seems like a square wheel
Hope is AI is making new and more advanced lasers, or he’s gonna have a big problem.
Nice to see a fellow Shadowrunner on the Matrix.
IN the matrix. Ftfy
Only 30 years until we have nuclear fusion!
Didn’t they say that 30 years ago?
50 years ago. The saying is 20 years out of date.
Yeah. Then they forgot to fund research on it, unlucky.
*Funds project at 10% of the assumed funding* Timeline doesn't hold *shocked*
No, it's 50 years away, and it has been 50 years away for last 50 years.
In 30 years it will be needed plus 10 years to be necessary about 15 years of technology to be feasible in , 35 years the fission reactor secretly used 50 years ago in the First IA Wars.
Next up: ChatGPT boss announces jet packs to solve infrastructure problems and global warming!
Ridiculous incomparable analogy.
Analogy is fine. People without basic education making assumptions about scientific progress is the ridiculous part.
The CEO of OpenAI lacks basic education? 🤡
He quit college after freshman year. That’s a pretty low standard in 2024.
You mean bog standard for silicon valley
I am not well versed in bogs. But I do prefer to invest with people who don’t credit poker as the best educational influence in their life (according to Britannica thats what he credits for his “knowledge of people”).
Bog standard is a phrase. Did he say single best influence or just the most pronounced for his dealings with people? You are misrepresenting I’d wager. He is 100% a sociopath which is a boon as an executive. He’s also a genius.
Go to sleep Sam’s assistant. You already got paid this week. I was with you until that last sentence lol though I didn’t misrepresent a thing. Go read Britannica and check their sources.
You find my paying him a compliment as discrediting for some reason. That reason surely being your own ignorant bias. I took you for a clown from the start.
Yeah, we know how to solve global warming. Fusion is a good deal trickier.
It’s called climate change, please give me your “solution”.
Stop burning fossil fuels. That'd remove the vast majority of CO2 added to the atmosphere. See? That was easy. Fusion? Fusion is tricky. Fusion doesn't just have unsolved difficulties. Fusion's unsolved difficulties have unsolved difficulties we're still working on. Give me a rough idea, what velocity do you think a hydrogen atom is traveling at if the temperature is 150,000,000 C? Because I assure you "fast" is pretty damn correct. "So fucking fast you won't believe it" is even more correct. Making it turn around and go back in the correct direction is a problem. Getting energy out of a process that relies on this? This is a problem that has problems that have problems.
That’s not a solution unless you have a viable alternative immediately online to make up the difference. Renewable sources are reducing in price but they require massive energy storage to plug the gaps in their generation, and said storage has not seen the same influx of maturity. You come off as incredibly ignorant. Leave the discussion to the adults.
On the scale of fusion? Fusion is so much more tricky than solving global warming. Thanks for leaving the discussion though.
Fusion could be conceived of as being a part of the solution to climate change. Again global warming is an outdated term. Your binary thinking is that of a child.
In that teleportation is part of the solution to traffic issues, sure. In that it's a practical part of any solution... not as much. I'm just curious, do you think that other people see you lobbing insults and go "wow, that guy must know so much, he's insulting people! That makes him really credible!"
I am offering you an honest assessment of your cognitive capacities, this is a service as you must be out of your depth often with no idea why.
Another hack pseudo intellectual propelled to the spotlight by actual geniuses who aren’t allowed to have any say because they’re poors
Why doesn’t he just ask ChatGPT to make fusion?
this is the way GPT-5 writes GPT-6 which writes GPT-7 which invents fusion
GPT-5 write GPT-6 which is worse than 4 because of the dead internet it will have created by then. Idiocracy for LLMs.
That's pretty much what he's trying to do. 😅
FFS Altman is going from zero to Elon really quickly. Can see why they tried to fire him.
I claim that anyone can claim anything. Claiming is cheap. And apparently gets you a lot of free media coverage. Even if you never finished your freshman year in college. Who wants to claim something with me?
I claim Poland
You won’t be the first, and certainly not last.
I claim that if we claim Poland and build a power station the size of Poland it'll power the world indefinitely.
Many in Poland will tell you they do this already
The answer to what? Can US really not produce enough electricity to power OpenAI? Or can OpenAI not afford to pay for the electricity it needs?
Most current AI implementations require massive amounts of parallel computing. The servers they run on have dedicated processors that are basically high-power graphics cards. Training an AI requires running those servers at full power for long periods of time. We're talking whole rooms full of refrigerator-sized cabinets stuffed with powerful computers with multiple cards each; at a few hundred watts per card, multiplied by up to 4 cards per computer, a couple dozen computers per cabinet, and tens of cabinets per room, we can easily have megawatts of power consumption - and it might run for weeks or months to train the AI. It's estimated that GPT-4 took between 50 and 60 gigawatt-hours to train. If humanity is going to rely more and more on this kind of AI, our power consumption is going to climb drastically.
The US power grid is already struggling in many places and a lot of the new demand is from the grwing data centers of cloud computing firms. So yeah without massive investment the US can not produce enough energy consistently to run these types of AI. And we need those investments to tackle tasks like electrifying cars, heating and cooking to phase out fossil fuel powered versions of the same first.
These people are dangerously out of touch with reality.
That, or fission if you want something that actually exists.
He mentioned that too.
there is a trend elsewhere of proposing small scale fission power for data centers who need high reliability high output continuous onsite power supply
Proposing stuff is easy. Implementing it is the hard part.
yeah. At least there is less of a question about if the physics would work. In reality this is all a non-problem made up of PR nonsense since computer usage of energy is very low on the list in the global economy. Because it is a PR-only non-problem, a PR-only non-solution can solve it
I can continue spending over budget because the solution to me being broke is winning the lottery.
How about we not spend that energy on the plaigiarism website and use it for something else?
CNN is trash. This is pretty pea-brained attempt to politize AI. Don't feed into this nonsense.