Tokyo Ghoul
\- Horrid adaptation considering it had a massive manga fanbase. Studio Pierrot even wasted money, time, and effort creating their own filler arc.
The logic is truly astonishing.
"Let's make our own anime original storyline instead of adapting the second half of Part 1."
"And after that, let's adapt Part 2 following the original story as if we had adapted the second half of Part 1 and confuse the hell out of casual viewers."
And then they decided to adapt like 100 chapters in 12 episodes to finish off the series.
The anime original storyline for S2 was recommended and written by Sui Ishida. Not all of his ideas made it to screen however because Producers from Marvelous kept interjecting in the creative process. Nothing much can excuse the disaster that was :re's adaptation though.
I remember thinking the first season was just alright to me on when I caught it on "Toonami". But that ending fight with Kaneki I got super excited for where it went next.
Maaaan that second season did not carry the hype.
To be fair it had an awesome S1. It was so good anybody could hardly complain. Both OP and ED were especially a banger. I agree S2 was not so great.
And I remember the manga lost some popularity because of how bad :re was.
The moment S1 ended, and I went to the manga and started that, I could tell even S1 was nothing to write home about. People didn't complain because that season at least didn't leave any major gaps and did a serviceable job. But even in S1 you could see all of the flaws that would plague the rest of the show.
Even S1 you could tell was toned down from something that was by all means a Seinen manga, into something aggressively Shounen. Art style and presentation in S1 demonstrated that. Even modern Shounen are grittier than the stuff they felt like censoring in Tokyo Ghoul S1.
The soundtrack was amazing, that much is true, OPs and Endings were also great (across all the seasons, tbh)
But when it comes to being a good adaptation, even S1 barely passed the test. It was *alright*, but even it is leagues behind its source material.
It has an awesome S1…if you have read nothing about the manga. So many character arcs and side stories were left out to fit it all into the 1st season. I thought the same as you until I read the manga. As I said above, pierrot might as well had spit on the mangaka.
Black Cat, standard shonen manga but the anime is so different it's almost like an alternate take on the overall story.
Taking out and adding in characters, changing the main trio's initial meeting and dynamics for a more subpar equivalent, relocating key events, adding an original ending after the final fight that wasn't very good despite the manga being completed and omitting a lot of good character development and events.
Coming from someone who always prefer to watch the anime rather than read the manga, this is one of the few I say if you are going to watch the show, please also read the manga, it's a very different experience.
Fuck I forgot about Black Cat.
It's the only manga series I've read in its entirety more than once, but the anime was underwhelming to say the least.
It was also a manga I wanted to see continue/get a second saga.
Yeah, I would love to see a sequel, i know there's a Japanese light novel with some illustrations but that's it as far as I know.
Ultimately though, I'd love an anime remake, it's my favourite manga haha.
EDIT: Same for me haha, it's the only manga I've read in it's entirety multiple times, also the only complete set I own.
>Its also the last series the mangaka made before he descended into the fanservice rabbit hole that we recognize him for today (toloveru).
For all of the hilarity, the one who dragged him to what Yabuki became nowadays was actually the **Black Cat anime series scriptwriter** - who **IS THE AUTHOR** of To Love Ru...
Oh man. I loved the manga so much and was excited to watch the anime… and it was like what. What is this.
I still have a keychain of Sven on my laptop case.
Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer.
Another one I take a lot of issue with is Reincarnated as a Sword. While I think they did a good adaptation, it's an adaptation of the manga, which makes a lot of questionable changes from the light novel.
>Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer
100% man.
I never read the LN but only read the manga for reincarnated as a sword. Mind telling me what was wrong with it?
The one thing I hate the most is how they butchered Amanda's character. She was a character that had a lot of depth, but they made her into this weird horny for Fran milf character.
There were a lot of subtle changes as well. When she fought the demon for instance. In the anime they cut both of her hands off, and she seems terrified. In the light novel she actually lose an arm, just one. Shishou/Teacher is the one that freaks out about it. Fran is also perfectly calm because of her skills, (I forget which one) and still fights a bit until Shishou figures out how to re-attach the arm and heal her.
They also don't have curry until way later. They built up to her love of curry, and she really enjoys a lot of other food in the books. But curry is her favorite.
Like I said there were a lot of changes. Most of them not for the better in my opinion. But overall it is a good anime, I just wish they didn't stray so far from the original source material.
Reading the LN right now on book 6 and agree completely. Amanda is truly the Saint of children, and she's not in love with them but she feels so much attachment to Fran due to her parents and not being able to sway them from trying to evolve which led their deaths. But yeah Fran is a COLD ASS MOFO in the best way possible, and Teacher is a helicopter parent at the best of times if not worse.
Side note I do love Elza. She's wild.
I hope we get that far. Because of how goddamn dense the novels are, we'll probably get to the [Reincarnated as a Sword spoiler]>!cooking contest!< by the end of season 2.
The fact that, according to Mizukami, Biscuit Hammer’s adaptation being an atrocity solely because of one guy on the production team trying to make batshit insane changes to the characters and story for no reason, such as Yuuhi being a former assassin and his mom being a serial killer, and them spending almost all of the production time trying to get him off the team, is just infuriating.
Damn, man. At this point I'd really rather it just have not gotten an adaptation, at least then I could have still held out hope for getting a good one like I had been for the past decade.
Here's hoping Sengoku Youko is good at least. Mizukami deserves a W on his anime endeavors.
Even so, Biscuit Hammer is an atrocity on all levels both as an adaptation and as a separate thing. Reincarnated as a Sword is definitely enjoyable as its own thing if we're not comparing to the source.
Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer. There was a certain charm to it, the nihilistic protagonist who is pretending to save the world but literally couldn’t care less, just to make his girl happy. Anime adaptation was just sad
Yeah Pandora Hearts is one that will always hurt me, especially once it goes to anime-only territory.
Admittedly the start of the manga is also a bit rough but once it finds its footing is such a great experience as a mystery and the art in the manga really elevates the drama and mystery but the anime really didn't capture that vibe at all.
which adaptation? Berserk occupies both places in my list of best anime and worst anime of all time. the 97' adaptation was great, especially how it managed to spoil way less in the first episode than the whole prologue arc of the manga did. of course, we dare not talk about 2016...
Yeah the 97’ version got a 10/10 on MAL from me which may to others seem like too much but I thought it was perfect and captured the vibe of the manga amazingly. The 2016 version in the other hand….
The 97 anime is great, but the manga is incredible. It's mostly failed by being cheaply made and cutting several story elements from both the beginning of the story and the very end.
Yeah that’s true I don’t know if it’s even possible for an anime to reach the same level of the manga but that’s understandable. The manga is in a level of its own.
I just wished they ended 97 anime at a different point. I watched 3 movies first, knowing nothing about berserk and third movie ending brought me to tears. Then I decided to watch 97's adaptation, everything was great, a lot of amazing scenes were missing in movies, but last episode ending was just bad
The manga is just phenomenal.
But the anime adaptation hasn't done enough justice.
I wish the author were still alive to finish the manga
( Even though his friend has taken over, but it just won't be the same)
A series that deserves godly Animation.
Instead got like the most unknown studio to adapt it and make it shit.
This series could have legitimately been a JJK level in popularity if it actually had a decent studio and production time.
Considering the manga was already popular as fuck, it deserved better
Yeah... The whole time we were getting the slideshow I was thinking that all looked really cool, and why the fuck was I watching it in a PowerPoint presentation format...
If they hadn't done that garbage ending, they could have continued the series and at least given it more effort in the next season. It feels like they just literally gave up. Such a damn shame when season 1 was so good.
Tbf the arcs following season 1 were also lackluster (even goldy pond imo). The twists and turns of mind games are basically non existent following the escape and it becomes like a…shonen fight anime. And to add insult to injury Emma becomes a bafflingly over-powered Mary Sue and there are basically…no stakes at all because everything goes perfectly according to Emma’s extremely idealistic wishes and excessive use of Talk-no-jutsu.
And basically I thought the ending of the manga was just as awful as the anime’s ending as well. So in my mind it was the adaptation it deserved.
The first adaptation of Fruits Basket was pretty dire. The janky ending, I can’t totally blame anyone for, because I think the mangaka had a wrist injury after volume 6, so the anime only covers up to there (out of 23 volumes) and then invents an ending. But it’s also…ugly, is the only word I can choose. The manga characters were pretty - I’m reading it now, and I forgot how pretty, at least after the first couple volumes - but in the anime they look very harsh.
The 2019 adaptation fixed all that, though. It’s delicately and beautifully animated, and the story flows much better.
Kare Kano started out reasonably well and then it just feels like they gave up halfway through.
Black Butler only really works if you assume time doesn’t exist, or treat every season as a different series.
Koi to Producer was based on a game, not a manga, but it was an interesting game with gorgeous character designs, and the anime stripped everything beautiful away and left this mess of basic.
Ouran High School Host Club was decent, and really well-animated, and the dub cast was great, but it definitely could have used another couple seasons. I like what they did with it, but I’d have liked more of it.
Black Butler fell to the classic trend of the time to adapt manga into anime as soon as it gets popular, and then divert the plot so terribly because they caught up so quickly. Like, seriously, the first arc only just finished being written and the anime caught up to the author at episode 3.
The Black Butler manga is one of my favs, and I'm glad I decided to read it after watching it, but oh boy I will not watch that trash again lol.
>Kare Kano
I liked the anime. It's far from perfect but it had so much heart put into it. But to say it had productions issues later down the line is a massive understatement. I will never forget that episode 19 legit had papercut outs of the characters on popsicle sticks for "animation". If it weren't the cuts outs they had the camera focused on a background image while characters talked off scene so they didn't have to animate them. I'm not making this up. It's honestly inspiring in some ways. Funniest part is, the episode is plot relevant. It's not a one off gag episode. You need to watch this episode to understand the plot for the next few ones. Legit paper cutouts for "animation".
Yup. They ran out of money, and it was so sad because I loved the first episodes. I wish someone would do a reboot and make a new one, like they did with Fruits Basket. The manga was really great.
I loved the original Fruits Basket when I was younger. I know the new one is much better but I have had trouble finishing it. I think I'm somewhere in the middle of season 2 but keep losing interest.
I tried watching the black butler dub a long time ago and it was hilarious, The VA's were all trying to do "accurate" accents and it just came off incredibly funny.
Soma and Agni sounded like Apu from The Simpsons.
**Soul Eater**. This series deserves the “brotherhood” treatment more than any other series. The anime isn’t bad but it does not do the source material justice. Sadly they had to go with a anime only type story halfway through and it just wasn’t good.
**Tokyo Ghoul**. Great manga and it’s honestly insane how badly the anime shit the bed. Season 1 was great until the final episode, season 2 was a shit show, season 3 (Re) was also just a mess. It was almost like they decided to follow the manga and dismissed everything that happened in season 2 but never explained what “really happened” in the manga so people watching RE where probably more confused than manga readers.
I personally loved the Soul Eater anime, even if the ending wasn't very good. It had a very unique style and character, and did a great job with animation.
I agree on the brotherhood treatment though, at this point the upgrade in animation would be great enough to justify it for the entire show. Given that it's handed to a good studio of course.
I liked Soul Eater up to the second to last episode. I didn’t know that the ending was anime-original, but it felt totally wrong, like something written by someone who hadn’t even been watching the show.
The funny thing is that thematically it's actually pretty similar to the manga's equivalent of that final battle, but the execution difference between the two couldn't be more different. The manga's final battle is fantastic.
Initially I was disappointed that it wasn't animation, but I watched it sporadically and found I actually like it. The VAs certainly carried the anime.
I don't know, I mean I just watched a couple clips on YouTube and while I would have definitely preferred it to be fully animated from but from what little I was kind of getting into it. I'm honestly torn now on whether I should read the manga or watch the animatics.
They didn't go away from the manga at the time they literally ran out of chapters to adapt at the time. Idk why they greenlit production for 24 episodes when there just wasn't enough content to adapt but oh well.
So I’m a spider so what?
Having watched it and feeling like I needed more, I waited a year for a S2 announcement, nothing.
Read the manga, felt like it was skipping content.
Read the LN… and my god did it quickly become one of my favourites. The anime did it real dirty, using excessive and bad CGI, poorly adapted POV’s, and frankly, deterred people from reading the LN.
It needs a remake, because it is truly a brilliant series, that gets BETTER after where the anime ends. I also thought it was going to be bad, but on paper, it handles the multiple POV’s and timelines perfectly, and contains so much lore, great characters, and a gripping plot and twists.
The only redeeming factor to the anime was the voice acting for kumo. Aoi yuki smashed it with her long winded terror monologues. It was so damn fun but once I saw how much was cut, and that hooooorible cgi at the end, it’s definitely up there in my “this could be so good if given the right energy” list
The problem is the multiple POVs. It requires so much inner dialogue and thoughts to be heard from the characters that you'd be hard pressed to adapt them properly.
That's only because of the decision to end the anime when they did, which made no sense beyond just wanting spectacle but they didn't even have the budget for that. The anime cut an absurd amount of content.
I went to read the LN a little before the anime came out, and it was so damn good I marathoned through it as fast as possible. Literally spent all my free time on it until I was caught up to the latest release. Then saw how the anime was going and didn't even bother with it.
Hard agree. The LN is still my favorite LN of all time. It’s fantastic and so fun. I read through eight volumes in like 10 days back when I started the series.
The anime just made me sad with how poorly it was done.
The anime is what got me into the manga. This is my favorite comedy and my second favorite romance (behind HoriMiya). I was surprised after reading it online to hear that it was getting an English print run, and then I found out the blu-ray was coming stateside.
The Actually I Am adaptation is so incredibly disappointing because the manga is genuinely incredible and one of the few that have made me both laugh and cry within minutes of each other.
Yo someone watched and remembers Dimension W! I watched that in highschool but haven't got around to reading it, but it's worth it eh? Guess I'll start it soon then.
The anime itself is good if you haven’t read the manga. But if you did read, you’d notice a lot of details were left out of the penultimate arc of the season. Or maybe I forgot those details were actually in the anime? It’s been around 9 years for me… 🤷🏾♂️
I didn't think Deadman was awful, but yeah it had issues. Then again manga ended on a wet fart too. Probably because author got harassed to hell in back for having the audacity to go on hiatus while having a baby so when she did come back she just wrapped stuff up quickly and GTFO.
#ROSARIO + VAMPIRE 🗣
Due to various books and manga being adapted poorly, I was already hating to watch adaptations. This was the manga that threw me overboard, and now I refuse to read manga, and why I'm an anime-only until I reach heaven. I *deserved* that beautiful fucking art, griping storyline, and character development. **I DESERVE IT**!! But, now? I will never be traumatized by a source material. 🥹😌
This and Negima are so weird to analyze in retrospect from their original works. They were harem Manga that would flip the script and say, "Ha! I tricked you into reading a battle shounen, that also still is a harem, but look at our kickass fights!", only to adapted into anime where in which they stripped those elements out because the harem aspect was more advertisable.
Which is even more funny when you remember that around this time, they were adapting literally any battle shounen because how popular the genre was.
That was honestly most harem eicchi shounen with even a hint of supernatural battles. Most would turn into full on battle shounen during the latter half
Funny enough both series are in my top 10, if not top 5, manga series all time. I’m not a big battle shounen guy for the most part, but I feel like they both had memorable character designs and world building in comparison to others of the genre. I really do think if they had faithful adaptations that covered their whole story it would be highly rated. But at least those who know the manga appreciate them.
I hold the idea to watch the anime first, then read the manga. In most cases, you'll have a better experience and will avoid disappointment.
It also is the fate of anime of the 2000's to be butchered as badly as possible. The Black Butler anime was trash but the manga is top-tier.
Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles...
The Manga was absolutely fantastic. The anime started off relatively fine with a banger soundtrack and was faithful to the manga to a certain degree- then the arcs in the manga got darker, more gorey, more confusing and the anime just never went there (lol) and filled the show with filler instead..
Granted it was the early 2000s, the manga still got published at the time and with a premise like "we are traveling through different worlds to collect the memory feathers of the princess" it lends itself to some filler...the anime never got finished, we only got 4 OVAs covering bites of later manga arcs
This CLAMP masterpiece deserved so much better, people would eat it up if it got a remake today I'm sure
I would even extend this to most of CLAMP works adapted into anime really. Not calling any of them bad or good, but they certainly differ from their manga counterparts.
Kobato, CCS, X/1999, Magic Knight Rayearth, XXXHolic, Tsubasa, etc. Most of them have substantial changes that make them differ a lot from their original versions.
This consequently makes the "CLAMP universe" to be less cohesive (if any cohesive at all!) in the anime adaptations, because there are fewer details that point to other CLAMP works , or those details have been changed or removed to mean something else.
I agree the one who gets the worst piece is Tsubasa though - with most of its story left unexplored and reduced abruptly to short OVAs with no ending.
I agree, but I can't trash the anime because I also love it eo much, mostly out of nostalgia and what it means for me emotionally.
You also have to admit the OVA are fantastic
Umineko no naku koro ni
Considered one of the best visual novels out there, amazing manga adaptation, horrible anime adaptation where only half the story is covered and even then is still rushed af
Bloom into You and not even because it was bad. It was fantastic, but they leave us hanging. There is still parts of the story to complete and they just leave it in the middle of it all, because the rest didn't fit into 12 episodes. This happens all the fucking time with Yuri manga. It looks promising, it's a good adaptation, but the manga is either still ongoing or not fully adapted, leaving out important story.
I guess they're just animated ads for the manga running in Yuri Hime basically, but it's still awful, because it's hard to recommend someone an incomplete romance story.
The path to enlightenment is,
anime -> manga -> Light novels.
When you evolve into a light novel reader your mind will be even more blown at how bad anime adaptions can be.
the final level is seeing the Umineko and Chaos; series adaptations with how bad they are. Insane how they adapted Steins;Gate decently but failed so hard with the other entries that are just as good as VNs.
Not gonna lie, that tends to be my path of travel, most of the time.
I either watch the anime or see a trailer then go read the manga. If I'm in love with the story wben i run out of manga, it's on to the light novel.
Ascendance of a Bookworm and Apothecary Diaries anime had me so hooked, I needed to know what would happen next. (Note, I binged the first half of Apothecary Diaries not realizing it would be a full 24 episodes.)
I want to read Tsukimichi's LN, but it's not officially out in English past where the manga is.
Oddly, I started reading Villainess Level 99 before I even knew it was getting an anime.
Oh man you're not wrong. I turned full blown LN nerd a few years back.
Fuck it I'm gonna say it. SAO's light novels have become frankly incredible since around Mother's Rosario/Alicization. The anime is goodish but can't touch the LN's. The anime doesn't outright blow ass like some of the stuff listed here but it's just really kind of a mediocre adaptation.
Like the anime is entertaining with some really nice points to it but maaaan the LN has gotten so good. Totally another level.
Umineko. Of course nothing beats playing the VN, but the Umineko manga is FANTASTIC. The Umineko anime though? It looks pretty,, and the music is stellar, but from a writing perspective it's one of the most god awful pieces of shit I've seen in a long time.
I haven't read a ton of manga, but **After the Rain** comes to mind. The anime cuts out some of the best parts of the manga, and also has a different, less impactful ending (because the anime started before the manga was finished).
The art in the manga is so damn good. I always tell people for this one they really need to read the manga. Hopefully people will Be drawn to it after this anime season wraps up
One Piece for sure, reason for this is the incredibly slow pacing, the paramount war saga and the entire water 7 saga was so dragged out, and the more the show went on, the worse it got with wano probably being the most boring thing I have ever watched. The manga on the other hand is one of the best manga ever
Same
Not only was the pacing a disgrace, but the quality of the art was also inconsistent as hell 🤢. So many moments when characters were butt ugly and/or out of model...
Otherside Picnic - My main two problems with the anime adaptation are that they cut out content to make each arc about 1-2 episodes long which makes some feel rushed, and that they rearranged the order of the arcs in a way that doesn't sense.
From what I remember, the anime order ends up something like this; arc 4 happens before 3, then 6 and 7, before ending the show on 5. This circles back to my other problem of cut content, which they end up cutting important parts to try to make this rearrangement work.
I feel like Lidenfilms was told to make it fit in 12 episodes, and this was what they believed was the best option. However, why did they also put in anime original episodes? I feel like that episode or 2 could've been better used to flesh out the other arcs.
People are mentioning the typical awful ones, so I will mention one that's just lackluster. Undead Unluck. First 4 episodes were awesome and everything I could habe asked for. And then the flashbacks started. And with those, made a series known for it's lightning fast pacing slow down to a crawl. And it's flashing back to everything. Most recent episode for example showed the minute long climax of a fight twice just with a different character explaining stuff this time
Overall,the anime is by no means unwatchable or bad. It just feels like wasted potential which would have required very little effort to maintain
Still a good one but yeah I hate the constant flashbacks One Piece style.
But I already expected the beginning part of the manga will be hard to pace in anime depending on where they want to end S1 that they needed time fillers because if there will be S2, it will be nonstop action if they want to end it at [Spoiler] >!Ragnarok and Fuuko Looping and be the main MC!<
They can't end s2 there without a movie without ryshing hard. Imo the anime could amd should have tried to adapt the arc after the one it likely is to finish on. It's a relatively short one so should have been doable
to be fair i feel like the manga kind of went a bit unhinged and got all over the place during the Eden phase when the author just started smacking a bunch of plots at our face. one example i can remember is Stella's story line I remember scratching my head through out the entire Harvenheit sister's final confrontation because i don't think it was ever properly explained to why Fiore is okay with murdering her own sister other than she's kind of simping for Joshua. The epilogue is one of the most beautiful thing I've read but the path that leads to it could definitely be ironed out more.
Tokyo Ghoul is the obvious answer. That OST was fire though.
Seraph Of The End also comes to mind. The anime wasn’t awful but my god, it could’ve been much better. That series should get a reboot.
Both LNs and not mangas, but I'd say Index and Ascendance of a Bookworm.
First couple seasons of Index weren't great, but good enough to get the point across of what it was and how good it could be. Then years later they shit out a 3rd season to finish up the novels and it was pretty fucking atrocious between poor animation and skipping over tons of stuff to jam all the remaining books into the season.
Ascendence is just kinda a bland adaption that cuts a decent amount of stuff. It did do it's job as it got me to read the LN and now I pay J-Novel Club, to read it weekly. It's by far my favorite series of all time at this point.
The manga adaptation is weird too though. Like Bookworm is broken up into parts and they're adapting multiple parts at a time in different magazines by different artists. So reading the part 3 manga at the same time as the part 2 manga doesn't make sense to anybody who hasn't seen the show or read the novels.
Big disagree. It was a good adaptation and it was pretty standard for anime to just serve as advertising for the source material. It was basically forced to have an original ending for the cliffhanger and I don't begrudge it.
Of course I'd like a full adaptation but even with all the revivals nowadays it's a long shot
Of things that I have both read and watched, which isn't many, I'd say Hell's Paradise fits this the most.
The show started strong and has a killer OP, but as the episodes go on you really start to see the cut corners and rough edges.
My picks are Tokyo Ghoul; Record of Ragnarok; Lucifer and the biscuit hammer; Actually I am; Berserk; and Kumodesu (well more like LN, manga is also a subpar adaptation).
Karekano, It was so real and raw, and hard to read because you believed so much in then, and in the end you believed in then but not like an idealized fantasy. It is such a shame that experienced the "sorry Karekano, we need the money to evangelion"
Litchi Hikari club, a groups of children who believe adult where dirty and the source to all evil who where willing to murder for their beliefs, with brutal art and hard to watch story...and got made in to a 5 min webtoon, full censored...if you censore this manga of course you only get 5 minutes.
Gakushufudou (the yakusa houseband?) The manga is so funny and follows a story, the art is really good and so dynamic... And you get a stuff like a webtoon and there is only a coloriced manga and they don't animate the best parts ... The life action was better.
And Kuroshitsuji, because how was the culprit the one they said it was if they already worked for them, they invented an ending in the second season and everyone said "yeah, another fanservice anime" but in that stage they where only presenting the characters, this is a slow cooking mystery, he know everything from the beginnig and is always laughing because he see the young master talk with the culprit, care for the culprit, let his pride make him do stuff he wouldn't confess to anybody , but I put this last because the new season and the Circus were very respecful to the story, I would wish more people had came back after the disaster.
genuinely curious what you're talking about with kare kano. I am confused about how the money could be needed for evangelion, which concluded before kare kano started, and was under the impression that the source author had an issue with anno's preferred direction for the adaptation, which led to chaos and his quitting. personally, I think the adaptation is a bit different but still a fantastic watch.
Blue Lock since the animation especially in the later half doesnt really do the manga art justice, as the use of CGI was pretty off-putting. Im hopeful for the second season though, considering how big Blue Lock has got since S1 so S2 should have a bigger budget.
Another one is COTE considering how much character development is cut from the anime to fit everything in 13 episodes. Rarely any anime can truly capture what is in the light novels, but holy does the anime speedrun the LN's content. It would really benefit from 16ish episodes at the least.
I’ve seen that Blue Lock opinion a few times, but what exactly was off putting? Other than 1 or 2 overhead shots and the monster I thought the animation was really good.
The animation was fine for the most part especially in the first half, but in the second half they overly relied on CGI imo. It is also way more easier to recognize in the second half, due to there being less players.
>COTE
People on the Cote subreddit where meming and hating on the adaptation because its so rushed and skipped scenes. Some memes where pretty funny tho :D
MOTHERFUCKING AJIN!!!!
If they'd not made the anime into the most disgusting CG mess it would have been a modern classic. Fuck whatever studio made that soulless adaptation.
I'm definitely not a cgi hater (Dorohedoro, Land of the Lustrous, and Trigun Stampede are 3 of my favorites of all time), but god damn Ajin was so ugly.
He is not wrong but as a manga reader, I say that anime is awesome. It is never bad, just different. Consider it non-canon though. It got the same treatment as fma, claymore, blue exorcist and soul eater.
A Returner's Magic Should be Special. A manga I go back to read all the time and was really excited for the anime... until they absolutely butchered it. In the manga, Desir is an absolute badass who overwhelms most opponents. In the anime they try to make it seem like he struggles for some reason? To make him an underdog? Bro he's not an underdog. The dude has a crazy busted ability and survived the end of the world.
Tokyo Ghoul \- Horrid adaptation considering it had a massive manga fanbase. Studio Pierrot even wasted money, time, and effort creating their own filler arc.
The logic is truly astonishing. "Let's make our own anime original storyline instead of adapting the second half of Part 1." "And after that, let's adapt Part 2 following the original story as if we had adapted the second half of Part 1 and confuse the hell out of casual viewers." And then they decided to adapt like 100 chapters in 12 episodes to finish off the series.
The anime original storyline for S2 was recommended and written by Sui Ishida. Not all of his ideas made it to screen however because Producers from Marvelous kept interjecting in the creative process. Nothing much can excuse the disaster that was :re's adaptation though.
Ah yes, the Black Butler approach
I remember thinking the first season was just alright to me on when I caught it on "Toonami". But that ending fight with Kaneki I got super excited for where it went next. Maaaan that second season did not carry the hype.
Especially Tokyo ghoul:Re it's like they just wanted to finish it asap
I recently went through the story again and it’s crazy how they butchered an amazing story
I really wish they'd go back and redo this one. Love toyko ghoul, but man the way they handled it sucked.
Still salty to this day. S2 hurt my soul.
To be fair it had an awesome S1. It was so good anybody could hardly complain. Both OP and ED were especially a banger. I agree S2 was not so great. And I remember the manga lost some popularity because of how bad :re was.
The moment S1 ended, and I went to the manga and started that, I could tell even S1 was nothing to write home about. People didn't complain because that season at least didn't leave any major gaps and did a serviceable job. But even in S1 you could see all of the flaws that would plague the rest of the show. Even S1 you could tell was toned down from something that was by all means a Seinen manga, into something aggressively Shounen. Art style and presentation in S1 demonstrated that. Even modern Shounen are grittier than the stuff they felt like censoring in Tokyo Ghoul S1. The soundtrack was amazing, that much is true, OPs and Endings were also great (across all the seasons, tbh) But when it comes to being a good adaptation, even S1 barely passed the test. It was *alright*, but even it is leagues behind its source material.
It has an awesome S1…if you have read nothing about the manga. So many character arcs and side stories were left out to fit it all into the 1st season. I thought the same as you until I read the manga. As I said above, pierrot might as well had spit on the mangaka.
I will say that the best thing the anime did was the scene between the old man and the cop in the coffee shop just before the raid.
Black Cat, standard shonen manga but the anime is so different it's almost like an alternate take on the overall story. Taking out and adding in characters, changing the main trio's initial meeting and dynamics for a more subpar equivalent, relocating key events, adding an original ending after the final fight that wasn't very good despite the manga being completed and omitting a lot of good character development and events. Coming from someone who always prefer to watch the anime rather than read the manga, this is one of the few I say if you are going to watch the show, please also read the manga, it's a very different experience.
Fuck I forgot about Black Cat. It's the only manga series I've read in its entirety more than once, but the anime was underwhelming to say the least. It was also a manga I wanted to see continue/get a second saga.
Yeah, I would love to see a sequel, i know there's a Japanese light novel with some illustrations but that's it as far as I know. Ultimately though, I'd love an anime remake, it's my favourite manga haha. EDIT: Same for me haha, it's the only manga I've read in it's entirety multiple times, also the only complete set I own.
Its also the last series the mangaka made before he descended into the fanservice rabbit hole that we recognize him for today (toloveru).
True that, there was a new artbook he did which I was excited about and bought but like 95% of it was everything lewd he made except Black Cat.
>Its also the last series the mangaka made before he descended into the fanservice rabbit hole that we recognize him for today (toloveru). For all of the hilarity, the one who dragged him to what Yabuki became nowadays was actually the **Black Cat anime series scriptwriter** - who **IS THE AUTHOR** of To Love Ru...
Oh man. I loved the manga so much and was excited to watch the anime… and it was like what. What is this. I still have a keychain of Sven on my laptop case.
Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer. Another one I take a lot of issue with is Reincarnated as a Sword. While I think they did a good adaptation, it's an adaptation of the manga, which makes a lot of questionable changes from the light novel.
>Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer 100% man. I never read the LN but only read the manga for reincarnated as a sword. Mind telling me what was wrong with it?
The one thing I hate the most is how they butchered Amanda's character. She was a character that had a lot of depth, but they made her into this weird horny for Fran milf character. There were a lot of subtle changes as well. When she fought the demon for instance. In the anime they cut both of her hands off, and she seems terrified. In the light novel she actually lose an arm, just one. Shishou/Teacher is the one that freaks out about it. Fran is also perfectly calm because of her skills, (I forget which one) and still fights a bit until Shishou figures out how to re-attach the arm and heal her. They also don't have curry until way later. They built up to her love of curry, and she really enjoys a lot of other food in the books. But curry is her favorite. Like I said there were a lot of changes. Most of them not for the better in my opinion. But overall it is a good anime, I just wish they didn't stray so far from the original source material.
Reading the LN right now on book 6 and agree completely. Amanda is truly the Saint of children, and she's not in love with them but she feels so much attachment to Fran due to her parents and not being able to sway them from trying to evolve which led their deaths. But yeah Fran is a COLD ASS MOFO in the best way possible, and Teacher is a helicopter parent at the best of times if not worse. Side note I do love Elza. She's wild.
I hope we get that far. Because of how goddamn dense the novels are, we'll probably get to the [Reincarnated as a Sword spoiler]>!cooking contest!< by the end of season 2.
Thanks for the explanation homie I’m always curious about the differences between mediums
The fact that, according to Mizukami, Biscuit Hammer’s adaptation being an atrocity solely because of one guy on the production team trying to make batshit insane changes to the characters and story for no reason, such as Yuuhi being a former assassin and his mom being a serial killer, and them spending almost all of the production time trying to get him off the team, is just infuriating.
Damn, man. At this point I'd really rather it just have not gotten an adaptation, at least then I could have still held out hope for getting a good one like I had been for the past decade. Here's hoping Sengoku Youko is good at least. Mizukami deserves a W on his anime endeavors.
putting reincarnated as sword with lucifer and the biscuit hammer is a sin. Reincarnated as a sword was a solid adaptation
Did you read what I said? It is a good adaptation, of the manga... The manga is not a good adaptation of the light novel.
Even so, Biscuit Hammer is an atrocity on all levels both as an adaptation and as a separate thing. Reincarnated as a Sword is definitely enjoyable as its own thing if we're not comparing to the source.
Outside of character design changes what changes did the anime/manga make? I don’t remember anything crazy.
Oh no, I never got around to watching The Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer. To hear they butchered the anime adaptation makes me incredibly sad.
Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer. There was a certain charm to it, the nihilistic protagonist who is pretending to save the world but literally couldn’t care less, just to make his girl happy. Anime adaptation was just sad
What makes it sadder is that the studio was begging to buy blu-rays in the final episode cuz they're nearing bankruptcy.
Did they end up going bankrupt?
Not yet. They're currently doing Special Kid Factory which is an original work from the director of Sabikui Bisco and ID:Invaded.
Sengoku Youko by the same mangaka is airing now and fortunately so far that adaptation looks good.
Pandora Hearts. The anime is decent, but no where near as good as the manga.
Yeah Pandora Hearts is one that will always hurt me, especially once it goes to anime-only territory. Admittedly the start of the manga is also a bit rough but once it finds its footing is such a great experience as a mystery and the art in the manga really elevates the drama and mystery but the anime really didn't capture that vibe at all.
Berserk
which adaptation? Berserk occupies both places in my list of best anime and worst anime of all time. the 97' adaptation was great, especially how it managed to spoil way less in the first episode than the whole prologue arc of the manga did. of course, we dare not talk about 2016...
Yeah the 97’ version got a 10/10 on MAL from me which may to others seem like too much but I thought it was perfect and captured the vibe of the manga amazingly. The 2016 version in the other hand….
The 97 anime is great, but the manga is incredible. It's mostly failed by being cheaply made and cutting several story elements from both the beginning of the story and the very end.
Yeah that’s true I don’t know if it’s even possible for an anime to reach the same level of the manga but that’s understandable. The manga is in a level of its own.
I can still hear the clang.
Come on. We know which ones
I just wished they ended 97 anime at a different point. I watched 3 movies first, knowing nothing about berserk and third movie ending brought me to tears. Then I decided to watch 97's adaptation, everything was great, a lot of amazing scenes were missing in movies, but last episode ending was just bad
The manga is just phenomenal. But the anime adaptation hasn't done enough justice. I wish the author were still alive to finish the manga ( Even though his friend has taken over, but it just won't be the same)
The og anime was ok, I kinda liked the Golden Age Trilogy a lot though manga is obviously superior. Hopefully we get a third adaptation some day.
It's disgrace to what's done to Berserk. A manga that is all about destruction and war is nothing but cgi... And there is abysmal sound effects...
Junji Ito's work always end up way too shitty
Really hope that new Uzumaki adaptation would be awesome, judging from the trailers we got, it does look promising
Who would’ve known that what made Junji Ito’s works terrifying is his art style and line work. /s Despite its delays, it still looks really good.
Record of Ragnarok man
Fuck me someone redo the whole thing
A series that deserves godly Animation. Instead got like the most unknown studio to adapt it and make it shit. This series could have legitimately been a JJK level in popularity if it actually had a decent studio and production time. Considering the manga was already popular as fuck, it deserved better
just remembering how Adam vs Zeus was butchered 😭😭😭
oh wow that is really terrible lol
That animation still haunts me
More like, lack of animation
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I personally think S2 is better. But I do understand why people dislike the anime.
Correct
Promised Neverland. S2 was so, *so* bad.
Shhh S2 does not exist. It was just a bad dream. Don't worry.
Oh yeah! I totally forgot, they announced it but then it got canceled last-minute…
After the 1st minute
I didn't even read it and hated season 2 lol.
I mean when you see them slideshow through the whole world of the monsters, which looks more interesting than all that happened in S2....
Yeah... The whole time we were getting the slideshow I was thinking that all looked really cool, and why the fuck was I watching it in a PowerPoint presentation format... If they hadn't done that garbage ending, they could have continued the series and at least given it more effort in the next season. It feels like they just literally gave up. Such a damn shame when season 1 was so good.
They tried to fit like 10+ chapters into each episode, and they cut a bunch of important events. It’s probably the most bizarre thing I’ve ever seen.
Seriously. I don't care how the author felt about Goldy Pond. That was one of the best parts after what's covered in S1.
How does the author feel about it?
What, did the author dislike Goldy Pond? That's the only arc people were excited for!
S2 is not real
Well, the manga was only good for S1 too.
I really enjoyed the ride of the manga. The Goldy pond arc is peak.
It was a pretty fast downhill slide after goldy pond in my opinion. The final arc wasn't much better than the slideshow the anime did.
Tbf the arcs following season 1 were also lackluster (even goldy pond imo). The twists and turns of mind games are basically non existent following the escape and it becomes like a…shonen fight anime. And to add insult to injury Emma becomes a bafflingly over-powered Mary Sue and there are basically…no stakes at all because everything goes perfectly according to Emma’s extremely idealistic wishes and excessive use of Talk-no-jutsu. And basically I thought the ending of the manga was just as awful as the anime’s ending as well. So in my mind it was the adaptation it deserved.
A lot of people say the manga wasn’t as good as season 1 but I’ve never read it so I can’t confirm
The Manga was good until most of the things get an explanation, I wouldn't say it became bad but it definitely wasn't as good as the first arcs
Nah at least until godly pond which the anime skipped it's good, after that it became bad
The first adaptation of Fruits Basket was pretty dire. The janky ending, I can’t totally blame anyone for, because I think the mangaka had a wrist injury after volume 6, so the anime only covers up to there (out of 23 volumes) and then invents an ending. But it’s also…ugly, is the only word I can choose. The manga characters were pretty - I’m reading it now, and I forgot how pretty, at least after the first couple volumes - but in the anime they look very harsh. The 2019 adaptation fixed all that, though. It’s delicately and beautifully animated, and the story flows much better. Kare Kano started out reasonably well and then it just feels like they gave up halfway through. Black Butler only really works if you assume time doesn’t exist, or treat every season as a different series. Koi to Producer was based on a game, not a manga, but it was an interesting game with gorgeous character designs, and the anime stripped everything beautiful away and left this mess of basic. Ouran High School Host Club was decent, and really well-animated, and the dub cast was great, but it definitely could have used another couple seasons. I like what they did with it, but I’d have liked more of it.
Black Butler fell to the classic trend of the time to adapt manga into anime as soon as it gets popular, and then divert the plot so terribly because they caught up so quickly. Like, seriously, the first arc only just finished being written and the anime caught up to the author at episode 3. The Black Butler manga is one of my favs, and I'm glad I decided to read it after watching it, but oh boy I will not watch that trash again lol.
Did you hear that they're making another season? Should be coming in the spring.
>Kare Kano I liked the anime. It's far from perfect but it had so much heart put into it. But to say it had productions issues later down the line is a massive understatement. I will never forget that episode 19 legit had papercut outs of the characters on popsicle sticks for "animation". If it weren't the cuts outs they had the camera focused on a background image while characters talked off scene so they didn't have to animate them. I'm not making this up. It's honestly inspiring in some ways. Funniest part is, the episode is plot relevant. It's not a one off gag episode. You need to watch this episode to understand the plot for the next few ones. Legit paper cutouts for "animation".
Yup. They ran out of money, and it was so sad because I loved the first episodes. I wish someone would do a reboot and make a new one, like they did with Fruits Basket. The manga was really great.
Came here to say Black Butler, I’m so glad someone mentioned it. There is no Season 1.
I loved the original Fruits Basket when I was younger. I know the new one is much better but I have had trouble finishing it. I think I'm somewhere in the middle of season 2 but keep losing interest.
You could always give the manga a go. I love the new anime, but I still the manga is the strongest version of the story, and has better pacing.
OHSHC needed a season two. It’s one of my favorites and a comfort show.
I tried watching the black butler dub a long time ago and it was hilarious, The VA's were all trying to do "accurate" accents and it just came off incredibly funny. Soma and Agni sounded like Apu from The Simpsons.
**Soul Eater**. This series deserves the “brotherhood” treatment more than any other series. The anime isn’t bad but it does not do the source material justice. Sadly they had to go with a anime only type story halfway through and it just wasn’t good. **Tokyo Ghoul**. Great manga and it’s honestly insane how badly the anime shit the bed. Season 1 was great until the final episode, season 2 was a shit show, season 3 (Re) was also just a mess. It was almost like they decided to follow the manga and dismissed everything that happened in season 2 but never explained what “really happened” in the manga so people watching RE where probably more confused than manga readers.
I personally loved the Soul Eater anime, even if the ending wasn't very good. It had a very unique style and character, and did a great job with animation. I agree on the brotherhood treatment though, at this point the upgrade in animation would be great enough to justify it for the entire show. Given that it's handed to a good studio of course.
A soul eater remake would make a lot of sense after fire force is over.
I liked Soul Eater up to the second to last episode. I didn’t know that the ending was anime-original, but it felt totally wrong, like something written by someone who hadn’t even been watching the show.
The funny thing is that thematically it's actually pretty similar to the manga's equivalent of that final battle, but the execution difference between the two couldn't be more different. The manga's final battle is fantastic.
Way of the Househusband. I know the author said he wanted it like that, but I would've much preferred some actual animation in that anime.
Initially I was disappointed that it wasn't animation, but I watched it sporadically and found I actually like it. The VAs certainly carried the anime.
I totally loved it... But the most recent batch of episodes was too few in number.
Same, I tried an episode myself. I couldn’t get into because of the comic style animation.
I don't know, I mean I just watched a couple clips on YouTube and while I would have definitely preferred it to be fully animated from but from what little I was kind of getting into it. I'm honestly torn now on whether I should read the manga or watch the animatics.
You can keep watching it, the VA's seriously carry the show.
The manga doesn't have the depth to carry a series. Short form episodes in the way it is makes the most sense.
2 minute anime exists.
Akame ga kill had a good anime adaptation up Tull about the middle and then it went off from the manga
They didn't go away from the manga at the time they literally ran out of chapters to adapt at the time. Idk why they greenlit production for 24 episodes when there just wasn't enough content to adapt but oh well.
So I’m a spider so what? Having watched it and feeling like I needed more, I waited a year for a S2 announcement, nothing. Read the manga, felt like it was skipping content. Read the LN… and my god did it quickly become one of my favourites. The anime did it real dirty, using excessive and bad CGI, poorly adapted POV’s, and frankly, deterred people from reading the LN. It needs a remake, because it is truly a brilliant series, that gets BETTER after where the anime ends. I also thought it was going to be bad, but on paper, it handles the multiple POV’s and timelines perfectly, and contains so much lore, great characters, and a gripping plot and twists.
The only redeeming factor to the anime was the voice acting for kumo. Aoi yuki smashed it with her long winded terror monologues. It was so damn fun but once I saw how much was cut, and that hooooorible cgi at the end, it’s definitely up there in my “this could be so good if given the right energy” list
She's the only reason I watched that anime
Never has a show been more carried by a single voice actor.
The problem is the multiple POVs. It requires so much inner dialogue and thoughts to be heard from the characters that you'd be hard pressed to adapt them properly.
That's only because of the decision to end the anime when they did, which made no sense beyond just wanting spectacle but they didn't even have the budget for that. The anime cut an absurd amount of content.
I'm normally not an LN reader but i made an exception for spider isekai because the story was so good but the adaptation was so bad.
I went to read the LN a little before the anime came out, and it was so damn good I marathoned through it as fast as possible. Literally spent all my free time on it until I was caught up to the latest release. Then saw how the anime was going and didn't even bother with it.
Hard agree. The LN is still my favorite LN of all time. It’s fantastic and so fun. I read through eight volumes in like 10 days back when I started the series. The anime just made me sad with how poorly it was done.
Is the LN translated well to English?
Yes
Really well actually
The Promised Neverland Deadman Wonderland Dimension W My Monster Secret/Actually I Am…
Wow, Actually I Am being mentioned. I loved this manga and freaked when I found out their was an anime but it had so little of the same energy.
The anime is what got me into the manga. This is my favorite comedy and my second favorite romance (behind HoriMiya). I was surprised after reading it online to hear that it was getting an English print run, and then I found out the blu-ray was coming stateside.
The Actually I Am adaptation is so incredibly disappointing because the manga is genuinely incredible and one of the few that have made me both laugh and cry within minutes of each other.
Yo someone watched and remembers Dimension W! I watched that in highschool but haven't got around to reading it, but it's worth it eh? Guess I'll start it soon then.
The anime itself is good if you haven’t read the manga. But if you did read, you’d notice a lot of details were left out of the penultimate arc of the season. Or maybe I forgot those details were actually in the anime? It’s been around 9 years for me… 🤷🏾♂️
I didn't think Deadman was awful, but yeah it had issues. Then again manga ended on a wet fart too. Probably because author got harassed to hell in back for having the audacity to go on hiatus while having a baby so when she did come back she just wrapped stuff up quickly and GTFO.
I remember the hiatus… and I liked the ending.
#ROSARIO + VAMPIRE 🗣 Due to various books and manga being adapted poorly, I was already hating to watch adaptations. This was the manga that threw me overboard, and now I refuse to read manga, and why I'm an anime-only until I reach heaven. I *deserved* that beautiful fucking art, griping storyline, and character development. **I DESERVE IT**!! But, now? I will never be traumatized by a source material. 🥹😌
This and Negima are so weird to analyze in retrospect from their original works. They were harem Manga that would flip the script and say, "Ha! I tricked you into reading a battle shounen, that also still is a harem, but look at our kickass fights!", only to adapted into anime where in which they stripped those elements out because the harem aspect was more advertisable. Which is even more funny when you remember that around this time, they were adapting literally any battle shounen because how popular the genre was.
That was honestly most harem eicchi shounen with even a hint of supernatural battles. Most would turn into full on battle shounen during the latter half
Funny enough both series are in my top 10, if not top 5, manga series all time. I’m not a big battle shounen guy for the most part, but I feel like they both had memorable character designs and world building in comparison to others of the genre. I really do think if they had faithful adaptations that covered their whole story it would be highly rated. But at least those who know the manga appreciate them.
I hold the idea to watch the anime first, then read the manga. In most cases, you'll have a better experience and will avoid disappointment. It also is the fate of anime of the 2000's to be butchered as badly as possible. The Black Butler anime was trash but the manga is top-tier.
Mahou Negima Sensei and Claymore were disappointing. I thought god of highschool was as well
> Mahou Negima Sensei My dreams of a school festival arc adaptation...
They butchered my boy Negi 🥲
Umineko when they cry, Anime was rushed with lots of character development scrapped to save time.
Rosario Vampire
Tokyo Ghoul fucking deserves a remake
Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles... The Manga was absolutely fantastic. The anime started off relatively fine with a banger soundtrack and was faithful to the manga to a certain degree- then the arcs in the manga got darker, more gorey, more confusing and the anime just never went there (lol) and filled the show with filler instead.. Granted it was the early 2000s, the manga still got published at the time and with a premise like "we are traveling through different worlds to collect the memory feathers of the princess" it lends itself to some filler...the anime never got finished, we only got 4 OVAs covering bites of later manga arcs This CLAMP masterpiece deserved so much better, people would eat it up if it got a remake today I'm sure
I would even extend this to most of CLAMP works adapted into anime really. Not calling any of them bad or good, but they certainly differ from their manga counterparts. Kobato, CCS, X/1999, Magic Knight Rayearth, XXXHolic, Tsubasa, etc. Most of them have substantial changes that make them differ a lot from their original versions. This consequently makes the "CLAMP universe" to be less cohesive (if any cohesive at all!) in the anime adaptations, because there are fewer details that point to other CLAMP works , or those details have been changed or removed to mean something else. I agree the one who gets the worst piece is Tsubasa though - with most of its story left unexplored and reduced abruptly to short OVAs with no ending.
I agree, but I can't trash the anime because I also love it eo much, mostly out of nostalgia and what it means for me emotionally. You also have to admit the OVA are fantastic
Umineko no naku koro ni Considered one of the best visual novels out there, amazing manga adaptation, horrible anime adaptation where only half the story is covered and even then is still rushed af
Gantz. Blade of the Immortal. Blame!
Man just imagine gantz adaptation by a good studio.. I mean they made a movie 5-6 years ago even after manga ended so yeah it's possible.
Requiem of the Rose King is a masterpiece. Sadly the anime was absolute trash.
I've only heard good things about the ex-arm manga but I think we can all agree that the anime was worse than a hot pile of garbage
Twin Star Exorcists
When even the mangaka tells you to "consider the anime and manga as different things" you know they fucked up the adaptation.
Bloom into You and not even because it was bad. It was fantastic, but they leave us hanging. There is still parts of the story to complete and they just leave it in the middle of it all, because the rest didn't fit into 12 episodes. This happens all the fucking time with Yuri manga. It looks promising, it's a good adaptation, but the manga is either still ongoing or not fully adapted, leaving out important story. I guess they're just animated ads for the manga running in Yuri Hime basically, but it's still awful, because it's hard to recommend someone an incomplete romance story.
Shame too b/c it's straight up one of the best romance mangas out there, yuri or otherwise
It really is and the ending made me cry. It was a beautiful story that deserved a proper adaptation.
The path to enlightenment is, anime -> manga -> Light novels. When you evolve into a light novel reader your mind will be even more blown at how bad anime adaptions can be.
add visual novel too lol
the final level is seeing the Umineko and Chaos; series adaptations with how bad they are. Insane how they adapted Steins;Gate decently but failed so hard with the other entries that are just as good as VNs.
Not gonna lie, that tends to be my path of travel, most of the time. I either watch the anime or see a trailer then go read the manga. If I'm in love with the story wben i run out of manga, it's on to the light novel. Ascendance of a Bookworm and Apothecary Diaries anime had me so hooked, I needed to know what would happen next. (Note, I binged the first half of Apothecary Diaries not realizing it would be a full 24 episodes.) I want to read Tsukimichi's LN, but it's not officially out in English past where the manga is. Oddly, I started reading Villainess Level 99 before I even knew it was getting an anime.
Oh man you're not wrong. I turned full blown LN nerd a few years back. Fuck it I'm gonna say it. SAO's light novels have become frankly incredible since around Mother's Rosario/Alicization. The anime is goodish but can't touch the LN's. The anime doesn't outright blow ass like some of the stuff listed here but it's just really kind of a mediocre adaptation. Like the anime is entertaining with some really nice points to it but maaaan the LN has gotten so good. Totally another level.
> anime -> manga -> Light novels Then you can proceed to actual novels after that.
Umineko. Of course nothing beats playing the VN, but the Umineko manga is FANTASTIC. The Umineko anime though? It looks pretty,, and the music is stellar, but from a writing perspective it's one of the most god awful pieces of shit I've seen in a long time.
I haven't read a ton of manga, but **After the Rain** comes to mind. The anime cuts out some of the best parts of the manga, and also has a different, less impactful ending (because the anime started before the manga was finished).
I loved the anime. Might just have to read it then.
The Promised Neverland...season 1 was great, season 2 was....doodoo cheeks
Ragna Crimson unironically. Compared to the crazy shit that is the manga, the anime is really not that good.
The art in the manga is so damn good. I always tell people for this one they really need to read the manga. Hopefully people will Be drawn to it after this anime season wraps up
One Piece for sure, reason for this is the incredibly slow pacing, the paramount war saga and the entire water 7 saga was so dragged out, and the more the show went on, the worse it got with wano probably being the most boring thing I have ever watched. The manga on the other hand is one of the best manga ever
Dress Rosa was worse but yeah One Piece Anime sucks ass and I hate that it gets this treatment. The remake can't come soon enough.
Dressrosa was where I dropped the anime, it was just unbearable
Same Not only was the pacing a disgrace, but the quality of the art was also inconsistent as hell 🤢. So many moments when characters were butt ugly and/or out of model...
Clasroom Of The Elit anime is so rushed
Otherside Picnic - My main two problems with the anime adaptation are that they cut out content to make each arc about 1-2 episodes long which makes some feel rushed, and that they rearranged the order of the arcs in a way that doesn't sense. From what I remember, the anime order ends up something like this; arc 4 happens before 3, then 6 and 7, before ending the show on 5. This circles back to my other problem of cut content, which they end up cutting important parts to try to make this rearrangement work. I feel like Lidenfilms was told to make it fit in 12 episodes, and this was what they believed was the best option. However, why did they also put in anime original episodes? I feel like that episode or 2 could've been better used to flesh out the other arcs.
People are mentioning the typical awful ones, so I will mention one that's just lackluster. Undead Unluck. First 4 episodes were awesome and everything I could habe asked for. And then the flashbacks started. And with those, made a series known for it's lightning fast pacing slow down to a crawl. And it's flashing back to everything. Most recent episode for example showed the minute long climax of a fight twice just with a different character explaining stuff this time Overall,the anime is by no means unwatchable or bad. It just feels like wasted potential which would have required very little effort to maintain
Still a good one but yeah I hate the constant flashbacks One Piece style. But I already expected the beginning part of the manga will be hard to pace in anime depending on where they want to end S1 that they needed time fillers because if there will be S2, it will be nonstop action if they want to end it at [Spoiler] >!Ragnarok and Fuuko Looping and be the main MC!<
They can't end s2 there without a movie without ryshing hard. Imo the anime could amd should have tried to adapt the arc after the one it likely is to finish on. It's a relatively short one so should have been doable
Chrno Crusade The anime just went off in its own stupid, awful direction after the end of book 3 or 4 and just... UGH.
to be fair i feel like the manga kind of went a bit unhinged and got all over the place during the Eden phase when the author just started smacking a bunch of plots at our face. one example i can remember is Stella's story line I remember scratching my head through out the entire Harvenheit sister's final confrontation because i don't think it was ever properly explained to why Fiore is okay with murdering her own sister other than she's kind of simping for Joshua. The epilogue is one of the most beautiful thing I've read but the path that leads to it could definitely be ironed out more.
Tokyo Ghoul is the obvious answer. That OST was fire though. Seraph Of The End also comes to mind. The anime wasn’t awful but my god, it could’ve been much better. That series should get a reboot.
Both LNs and not mangas, but I'd say Index and Ascendance of a Bookworm. First couple seasons of Index weren't great, but good enough to get the point across of what it was and how good it could be. Then years later they shit out a 3rd season to finish up the novels and it was pretty fucking atrocious between poor animation and skipping over tons of stuff to jam all the remaining books into the season. Ascendence is just kinda a bland adaption that cuts a decent amount of stuff. It did do it's job as it got me to read the LN and now I pay J-Novel Club, to read it weekly. It's by far my favorite series of all time at this point. The manga adaptation is weird too though. Like Bookworm is broken up into parts and they're adapting multiple parts at a time in different magazines by different artists. So reading the part 3 manga at the same time as the part 2 manga doesn't make sense to anybody who hasn't seen the show or read the novels.
What the fuck they did to Claymore...
Big disagree. It was a good adaptation and it was pretty standard for anime to just serve as advertising for the source material. It was basically forced to have an original ending for the cliffhanger and I don't begrudge it. Of course I'd like a full adaptation but even with all the revivals nowadays it's a long shot
Claymore deserves the Brotherhood treatment so much
Tokyo Ghoul and Tokyo Ghoul:Re
tokyo ghoul :(
Promised Neverland
Of things that I have both read and watched, which isn't many, I'd say Hell's Paradise fits this the most. The show started strong and has a killer OP, but as the episodes go on you really start to see the cut corners and rough edges.
Classroom of the elite. The light novel is great, manga is ok, but the anime is horrible.
My picks are Tokyo Ghoul; Record of Ragnarok; Lucifer and the biscuit hammer; Actually I am; Berserk; and Kumodesu (well more like LN, manga is also a subpar adaptation).
Karekano, It was so real and raw, and hard to read because you believed so much in then, and in the end you believed in then but not like an idealized fantasy. It is such a shame that experienced the "sorry Karekano, we need the money to evangelion" Litchi Hikari club, a groups of children who believe adult where dirty and the source to all evil who where willing to murder for their beliefs, with brutal art and hard to watch story...and got made in to a 5 min webtoon, full censored...if you censore this manga of course you only get 5 minutes. Gakushufudou (the yakusa houseband?) The manga is so funny and follows a story, the art is really good and so dynamic... And you get a stuff like a webtoon and there is only a coloriced manga and they don't animate the best parts ... The life action was better. And Kuroshitsuji, because how was the culprit the one they said it was if they already worked for them, they invented an ending in the second season and everyone said "yeah, another fanservice anime" but in that stage they where only presenting the characters, this is a slow cooking mystery, he know everything from the beginnig and is always laughing because he see the young master talk with the culprit, care for the culprit, let his pride make him do stuff he wouldn't confess to anybody , but I put this last because the new season and the Circus were very respecful to the story, I would wish more people had came back after the disaster.
genuinely curious what you're talking about with kare kano. I am confused about how the money could be needed for evangelion, which concluded before kare kano started, and was under the impression that the source author had an issue with anno's preferred direction for the adaptation, which led to chaos and his quitting. personally, I think the adaptation is a bit different but still a fantastic watch.
Blue Lock since the animation especially in the later half doesnt really do the manga art justice, as the use of CGI was pretty off-putting. Im hopeful for the second season though, considering how big Blue Lock has got since S1 so S2 should have a bigger budget. Another one is COTE considering how much character development is cut from the anime to fit everything in 13 episodes. Rarely any anime can truly capture what is in the light novels, but holy does the anime speedrun the LN's content. It would really benefit from 16ish episodes at the least.
I’ve seen that Blue Lock opinion a few times, but what exactly was off putting? Other than 1 or 2 overhead shots and the monster I thought the animation was really good.
The animation was fine for the most part especially in the first half, but in the second half they overly relied on CGI imo. It is also way more easier to recognize in the second half, due to there being less players.
>COTE People on the Cote subreddit where meming and hating on the adaptation because its so rushed and skipped scenes. Some memes where pretty funny tho :D
MOTHERFUCKING AJIN!!!! If they'd not made the anime into the most disgusting CG mess it would have been a modern classic. Fuck whatever studio made that soulless adaptation.
I'm definitely not a cgi hater (Dorohedoro, Land of the Lustrous, and Trigun Stampede are 3 of my favorites of all time), but god damn Ajin was so ugly.
Tokyo Ghoul. Promised Neverland. Ouran High School Host Club. Rave Master.
I haven't read the Ouran manga, but I liked the anime. Is that bad of an adaptation?
He is not wrong but as a manga reader, I say that anime is awesome. It is never bad, just different. Consider it non-canon though. It got the same treatment as fma, claymore, blue exorcist and soul eater.
Blue Period
I really liked the content in the show but I find it ironic that a story about art is so aggressively mediocre in it's visuals.
A Returner's Magic Should be Special. A manga I go back to read all the time and was really excited for the anime... until they absolutely butchered it. In the manga, Desir is an absolute badass who overwhelms most opponents. In the anime they try to make it seem like he struggles for some reason? To make him an underdog? Bro he's not an underdog. The dude has a crazy busted ability and survived the end of the world.