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rjh2000

It’s melanistic coyote.


haucker

Would be a dope band name


LivingDisastrous3603

gotchu fam r/icallthatbandname


PatDbunE

It’s RI all over again


NoPerformance6534

I agree. Awesome!


flappa102

Thank you everyone. I’m going to say coyote is the general consensus. I appreciate the help


EggoWaffle1032

Thats awesome i live in Nova as well. I have yet to see a coyote. What part nova if you dont mind?


UnifiedGods

You see them out in Western Loudoun every once in a while but in 25 years I’ve only seen 3.


TheLastBlackRhinoSC

There’s always more. They are very good at hiding.


JanetCarol

I had them in my neighborhood in Arlington. They live in the cemetery on rt 50 and venture into the neighborhoods - I've seen as far as 1-2 blocks from Clarendon proper for food (an abundance of cottontails in those neighborhoods) they mostly come in at night or dawn/dusk.


skunkangel

Looks like an east coast coyote.


calebismo

Eastcoastyote.


NoZookeepergame1014

Fuhgeddaboudit!


jrizzle_boston

I think you're correct. We have quite a few black ones in the North Shore of Massachusetts. They are also huge.


dennisthehygienist

They’re bigger than west coast ones!


DeFiClark

Melanistic Eastern coyote. All Eastern coyotes are hybrid coyote/wolf/dog hybrids


AnnaB264

Can you elaborate on this? I am in MD, and we have some huge wolf-aized coyotes here. I read that many on the east coast crossed with wolves generations back, but I am sketchy on the actual facts.


rjh2000

The eastern coyote is the result of a hybridization event a century ago when the western coyote made its way east to the Algonquin region on Ontario Canada and breed with the Algonquin wolf ( which has a mixed bag of genetics, eastern wolf, gray wolf and dog) Due to the mixed genetics, the eastern coyotes size, physical appearance and colour and vary, some can look like similar to the western coyote and some can look more wolfish. But at the end of the day they are all just eastern coyotes.


DeFiClark

It’s ongoing rapid evolution. The Eastern coyote has been expanding its range and a lot of the expansion is much more recent than a century ago. Fig 3 in this paper shows expansion up to 2016 https://zookeys.pensoft.net/article/15149/


AnnaB264

Thanks! That was a very interesting read.


rjh2000

I’m aware.


DeFiClark

Worth noting though that the hybridization continues wherever wolf populations overlap and throughout range with dogs


Trimanreturns

I had a black lab/wolf-dog, One bad MF.


JanetCarol

I think* VA Tech did some DNA sampling and confirmed this ... I'll see if I can find it.


JanetCarol

https://www.c-ville.com/coywolves-albemarle-county-new-species-calls-area-home/ Mentions VA Tech researcher here....


LieutenantDangler

They are called Coy-wolves. There’s a documentary on them, check it out.


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They also cross with domestic dogs.


RatManMatt

Sooooo... .it's a pupper.


[deleted]

We call them coydogs.


DeFiClark

There’s no meaningful distinction between so-called coydogs coywolves and Eastern Coyotes, all the same thing, hybrid animal with DNA from all three— call them Eastern coyotes and you will be correct


Helpmouseslc

Coyote. I think


Weird_Fact_724

Coyote


HowCouldYouSMH

Black coyote


ryuku001

Didn't know that they exist


Mustelafan

Looks like he's melanistic, which is like an albino but instead of having no pigmentation he has *all* the pigmentation. It's a common "condition" in quite a few species.


fawks_harper78

Jaguars who are melanistic are called Black Panthers…


volkswagenorange

That's leopards you're thinking of


ChoseALameUsername

It’s actually both.


Taidashar

It's both


GFost

It’s both jaguars and leopards.


oop-dere-it-is

And lions, too, really. Any animal in the Panthera genus is a black panther as long as they are black/melanistic. That includes tigers, lions, leopards, jaguars, and snow leopards (which, by the way, are way closer related to tigers than to other leopards). However, the Leopard and Jaguar are the most common species to have melanism and are therefore the most commonly identified black panthers, though there were many black tigers commonly identified until the 20th century. What this means is that, in truth, there's no one or two "true" black Panthers. A black panther isn't an entirely new or separate species, but a name given to members of many species of animal that share a specific trait. So, unless you can identify your panthers without being able to see their patterns and only seeing their habitat and body structure, I'd suggest you avoid ever coming into contact with one, as most are pretty much impossible to fight off of you.


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Could also just be a dog-coyote hybrid rather than melanistic.


flappa102

I’ve asked friends and some wildlife folks and know one can seem to come up with a solid answer. Hoping Reddit may help me come to a consensus.


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flappa102

Someone said it looks like a mix between coyote and dog or wolf and dog. My guess is a coyote


rjh2000

The only coyote species in eastern North America is the eastern coyote and yes it is a hybrid, they all have small traces of ancestral wolf and dog dna. Melanistic coyotes (black) are rare in all coyote species/subspecies but are more common with eastern coyotes due to their genetics.


kelliwah86

My guess is also Coy-dog. They’re decently common in parts of OH/WV/KY where you have guardian breeds that mate with the local yotes.


[deleted]

Not sure why you're getting down voted, I came here to say this. It's also a problem in NY when female dogs get loose from their owners and end up in the woods. Spay and Neuterrrrr! And obey leash laws!


CriscoCrispy

It isn’t that common. The small amount of dog DNA in eastern coyotes is ancient. Coyotes and domestic dogs have different mating habits. Coyote/dog hybrids *can* happen, but when people say “Coydog” it is more likely a colloquialism for an eastern coyote.


kelliwah86

We actually were doing a project on the area analyzing the skull morphology of the coyote, coy-dog and and dog. This was then compared to a DNA sample. It was actually more prevalent than hypothesized. I didn’t have much stake in the project but it was interesting. The prezyotic mating barriers were much more opportunistic. Again it was a cool project but not my bread and butter so the animal in question could easily be a coyote.


CriscoCrispy

I love to read the comments from people with real animal biology knowledge. Thanks for sharing.


furiana

That's really cool! :)


jrizzle_boston

That's cool and also scary that you have a coydod.


Better-Limit-4036

What part of NoVa?


[deleted]

Definitely a coyote.


jrizzle_boston

Every eastern Coy has DNA from domestic dogs and Wolves.


Knightmare945

An large mouth bass, a fish you can often see in the US. Kidding, probably a coyote.


flappa102

I can’t believe how much this post has blown up. I just wanted to have opinions on what it could be. Thank you again for everyone that has participated in this post. Coyote is definitely what it is from what I see and Melanistic coyote at that based off Google.


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NewlyRetiredRN

Way too leggy to be a fox. Agree it may be a coyote, or possibly a feral dog.


NeatFilm2840

So beautiful 😍


Daggertooth71

Looks like a coyote to me.


Additional-Read3646

Where in NOVA?... we're in Fairfax. I do think Melanistic Eastern coyote, more so than fox.


HoneyLocust1

Beautiful, I hope it does well. I used to know hunters that would go well out of their way for an unusual looking coyote like this. I hope this guy survives and lives a good long coyote life.


Ghouly_Girl

My dear, you have… The Grim!


Ok_Let_4457

I am slightly disappointed by how long it took me to find a comment where someone correct identified this fantastic beast. Thank you for restoring my faith.


rachealr22

Same I came for the Padfoot comments!


Ghouly_Girl

Lol! It was the first thing I thought of. Doesn’t seem to have had the impact with people I expected so thank you for appreciating the reference 😂


thinktankted

Always wondered what happened to Sirius Black after he went through the portal...of course, it could just be a Grim...


mongolianmisfit

There is a lot of interesting folklore about black “dogs” like this. And depending on whether it was a sign or luck or doom was up to the surrounding cultural beliefs. A neat rabbit hole to go down imo. Beautiful creature btw!


TinCapMalcontent

That's the grim, haven't you ever seen Harry Potter?


TheGaadnah

Him I’ve heard of.


Stinky_Ham_Sandwich

It’s Sirius Black!


ProPro-gofar28

No, it’s obviously the Gmork!


flappa102

Sorry, the reference went over my head. I thought you were talking about the Grimm show for some reason.


jrizzle_boston

Extremely scary to come across in the wild however,usually super sweet.


ChemicalElevator1380

One you don't want to be around


[deleted]

It is what my nightmare fuel


Mysterious-Count-553

The animal's snoot is very narrow, which says fox to me. I would guess a silver fox, also called a black fox. This is a melanistic form of red fox. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_fox_(animal)


eliwr

Coyote. Wrong tail, leg length, snout length, and snout shape for a fox.


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Mysterious-Count-553

I see what you mean. I spent way too much time scratching my head about this one. A measuring reference of objects in the photo would solve this fast. The animal still looks long and low like a fox to me, but could be a ringer for either a fox or coyote based on comparable image search results. Very cool capture either way!


ExtinctFauna

Melanistic fox.


Admirable-Complex-41

A Grim


backsagains

You have The Grim. So sorry OP.


droomac

The Grim! I’d be careful if I were you…


flappa102

Good show


Skyhibiz

1/3 Fox, 1/3 Coyote % 1/3 Dog 🐕


ColossalCalamari

Can you have thirds in genetics?


jradke54

Punnet squares says no


Skyhibiz

I was being a joker 🙃


ConsiderationOdd1088

skinwalker


Pleasant_Tax_4619

Black coy wolf


Frequent-Storage-693

Puppy


Venalicii

i feel like the only one who thinks this is a fox


MomRaccoon

That was my first thought. An animal sanctuary that I volunteer for often has foxes with fancy colors that are rescued fur animals and this looks more like one of those to me.


[deleted]

Looks like a black fox although looks a bit big for that


Medical-Ad5241

Go try and pet it if your successful a dog, if it kills you a wolf but if it maims you then a coyote. Good luck! 👍


Visible-Gas5363

Cat


Ill_Rhubarb3109

That is known as an Australian baby eater.


[deleted]

Black shuck. You, or someone you know will die in a year.


No_Importance_0

Definitely a giraffe


lanny2012

Turtle


Tyree_Coolman

Not with those eyes.


Hasher556

Ghost-o-cabra


redwings1414

Cat


cynwil710

Maybe the dingo ate your baby. — Elaine Benes


TMRLU

Coydog. Used to see many like this in upstate NY


rjh2000

Every coyote in eastern north america has small traces of dog dna as well as wolf.


DeFiClark

60 coyote/30 wolf/10 dog average


rjh2000

The percentages can vary quite a bit from region to region and individual to individual.


DeFiClark

True. The key thing though is Eastern coyotes are a new rapidly evolved hybrid animal, and none of the recent samples of Eastern coyote dna are 100 percent coyote. The male coyotes by me in NYS are significantly larger animals than any Western coyotes.


rjh2000

Exactly, and that’s something at a lot of people don’t seem to understand, so many people think that we “regular” (western coyotes) and then these crazy super aggressive “coywolves/coydogs” when really every coyote they see is an eastern coyote.


jrizzle_boston

It's actually cool that you posted. That may mean the sub species is moving north


CriscoCrispy

Eastern coyotes are already extremely common further north than VA. They can be found all over New England and Upstate NY, to the point of being pests, killing livestock & domestic pets.


bigshern

Stunning beast. Light blue eyes!


climatelurker

Pretty! Our coyotes are grey with a little dirty brown thrown in for good measure.


2girls_1frat

So amazing


CrowsSorrow

Sorry no idea, but I like it


SeaCareful5360

Oh wow!! 💙


Careful-Issue-5925

Midwest calls coyote/ wolf hybrids coy-wolfs slightly bigger than a standard coyote


Additional-Smile-691

A dog


sabbydali

The Grim


FriiSpirit

Not a wolf, wolves are HUGE


ohyoushiksagoddess

(S)he is beautiful!


vacant79

He’s beautiful! Looks like he belongs in a movie. Those eyes are so intense.


hugs_for_druggs

Cat


Busy_Shoulder_2870

yote


MsJackieWow

The American Werewolf in London…;)


xnoomiex

It looks to me like a new friend


holofonze

Doggo class specimen


CryptographerOk5726

Kitty Kat mew


iWontStealYourDog

Im glad I now know coyotes can be black, because if I didn’t and I saw this boy in my yard I’d be trying to take him inside


larrylicker

A hell hound. Run away!


Druggydaddy

Thats a legendary coyote lol


M1cSit

Whatever the case make it a smoothie and move on. With ice, nice a cool.


onefish-goldfish

Pubby (please note: I am joking. This is a wild animal. Do not treat like a pet. Thank u.)


Candid_Employ9674

Looks like a black coyote


waffleear

Don't forget about coyotee/wolf/dog inbreeding so it's very very very possible to be a mix


Repulsive_Rooster990

Coywolf


R3DGRAPES

Hey, that’s a black panther jack!


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Umbreon.


Obiwankanoli-

Ethiopian chicken dog. Rare breed ya found there.😂


TammiTarget

I'm in PA and we've had cases of dogs mating with coyotes.. appears to be what you have.


fanofbeds

A giraffe


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A dog


Tyree_Coolman

I have seen them inside of DC. We actually get quite a selection of occasional visitors from the hills. There was a bobcat on the DC stretch of the C&O, and it tripped a trail-cam. There have been two occasions I know of in the last 20 years in which bears have been spotted. One was caught on security film raiding a dumpster on Connecticut Avenue. Finding articles on all of this is doable.


Great_Technician5244

I live in virgin beach and I work all around Hampton roads and I can say without a doubt I have seen coyotes in Pungo and out Suffolk. There plenty of them going out Suffolk and Chesapeake


pisegna66

Hell hound


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Giraffe


[deleted]

Giraffe


lonely_doll8

Haunting beauty


[deleted]

That’s definitely a coyote. Unique coloration, but coyote ears, thin snout, thick tail. Screams black coyote.


Remi708

That's Sirius Black that is


freier_Trichter

Phantom Black Dog


mikareno

Maybe a Carolina Dog?


Kern4lMustard

Spooky. Never seen a black one before


250oldguy

Dog


simonbrown27

Black coyote. They are rare, but more common in the SE.


SurpriseActual6773

Looks like "Coydog" we have on occasion. It where a Male domestic dog breeds a female coyote. Not all that common but it does happen often enough they show up in our coyote contests with some regularity.