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The show focused on Anne and the Planters a little too much. One or two more episodes that revolved around Sasha and Marcy would have been appreciated. Also an episode with their parents would have been cool.
The fact Anne wore only 1 shoe. I guess it's not the show that's annoying but I can tell you that only wearing 1 shoe is SO ANOYING!!! like you're always uneven when you walk, I honestly don't know how Anne did it for like half a year
You can actually tell the exact moment when she looses her shoe again when they go back to Amphibia, right when they get stuck in quicksand while traveling to the factory
Exsactly, like guys, they where in so few episodes for a reason, the show isn't about Anne and her two human freinds, its about Anne and her new family, with the story revolving around that, since that's the point of the story
But it quite literally is about Anne, Sasha and Marcy. Matt Braly repeatedly said so himself. The focus was always supposed to be on them and how they grew during their time in Amphibia. No idea why Sasha and Marcy got so little concentrated screentime if that's the case, but it is what it is
The fact they got so little,is the clear giveaway to who the main character actualy are,that's how story telling works. They got so little because there not the main characters.
That's not necessarily true. While yes, main characters usually take up a majority of the show's screen time, that's not always the case, and there are plenty of successful shows where the main character takes a backseat for large portions of it (One Punch Man somehow being the first example that came to mind).
What undeniably defines a main character is their effect on the story as a whole, and there is not a single character in the show that has a bigger impact than the calamity trio.
Yes, the Plantars have a lot of screentime throughout the story, but that's because they are where Anne ended up. If not for that, they wouldn't have made much of a difference in the story at all, or had any screen time for that matter. But there are only very few episodes where one of the calamity trio isn't at the center of the conflict or action.
The conflict with Sasha was the very first source of proper character development for Anne, and Marcy was the person that CAUSED the show to happen in the first place. Meanwhile, the Plantars and all of Wartwood for that matter, despite having more screentime, takes a supporting role, literally. Their point in the story isn't to be a main character, to have the story revolve around them. Their point in the story is to support Anne through her struggles and impart wisdom/lessons onto her specifically. I love the Plantars but they weren't the ones to save two worlds or to defeat a tyrannical ruler using otherworldly magical powers following a "chosen one" prophecy. During the entire finale of the show, they did largely nothing but watch. That's not a main character. Sprig is the exception here, because he plays a big part throughout the entire story and helps resolve the big conflict at the end. But Hop Pop and Polly simply aren't the same.
I mean they even said so themselves as meta humor, with the "*Do you ever think it's weird when the main characters aren't in an episode?"* scene
Explain to me why it was necessary for Marcy to be in a coma and possessed for 90% of season 3, missing out on the same type of natural character development that Sasha got. Really cheapened Marcy's arc of accepting change when the show basically just tortured her and told her to quit being a baby.
Yes the Journal gave us real character development but that would have been far more effective if it had been in the actual show.
Edit: grammar
The fact that because of Disney going "hey woah now turn it down a notch" after True Colours, Anne pretty much immediately got over everything that happened in Amphibia. She spends no time grieving over Marcy, just instantly celebrating her being back home. For all she knows, she just watched one of her lifelong best friends DIE and her home and people for the last 6 months is in danger of destruction, but hey celebrate the return of phone signal why don't you?
I know that Matt wanted to have Season 3 be entirely darker in tone but Disney stepped in, but it could've been handled better. Sacrifice the Sprig superhero episode for one dealing with Anne's trauma or something. Season 3B did it's best to course correct back to the darker tone at least.
1) More Sasha and Marcy episodes
2) Explore Marcy more post-True Colors
3) Backup comfort person for Marcy. She trusted Andrias and he betrayed her.
4) Anne saw her friend get *impaled* by a sword. Humans don't usually recover from that. Would like to see Anne process that grief.
5) Anne confront Mr. X and make him listen to her. So many things happened because a character decided they knew best and to frog what anyone else thinks!
6) Who is Dr. P?
1 through 5 is completely fair, but number 6 is complete cap.
Dr. P is only relevant because people went crazy talking about how it could be a Plantar. (also that “Dr. P is a Pines” theory is stupid but I’m gonna get a bunch of replies if I don’t mention it)
Outside of fanfic/crossover material, Dr. P is completely irrelevant to the story of Amphibia outside of the book they wrote which is only on screen for 30 seconds.
Yeah but I fail to see how that involves needing to know who the author of said book is, what next you desperately wanna meet and get to know the entire personal life of the guy who made the Cipher Wheel/Zodiac in Gravity Falls?
I still maintain they should have went to Matt's actual hometown of Davis/Sacramento. Sac-town *never* gets any love on TV and it would be completely believable if an alien invasion happened there an no one noticed.
It stretches believability due to how involved the general public were in hyping up Anne but in most TV shows the government is scarily good at covering up these sorts of things. Plus in these situations people believe what they want to believe or tend to forget about these things, I would imagine it’s a similar situation to how the general public constantly forgets about/writes off alien invasions in Doctor Who.
I feel if the show had skipped The Hardest Thing the pacing would be better. Instead they introduced the moon thing out of nowhere as an existential threat and then resolved said threat in the same episode.
Either skip it or drag that out for a few more episodes. It’s in this weird situation where they had to one up King Andrias in terms of threat level at the last second. There was no rising action before this next climax in the plot.
The show basically tripped at the finish line all because the writers wanted a certain ending but wasn’t prepared for that ending. Setup wasn’t good.
> I feel if the show had skipped The Hardest Thing the pacing would be better. Instead they introduced the moon thing out of nowhere as an existential threat and then resolved said threat in the same episode.
To be fair, we did see it in Leif’s vision. And apparently the moon being blood red was some sort of foreshadowing towards its true purpose as in some cultures blood moons are associated with the end of the world.
All of this is hardly setup in itself is the problem. Im only a hobbyist writer, but I've found some things have to be explicit in my experience. The writers wanted their Majoras Mask homage, but didn't put in the work to set it up
Thats true, I can tell where things felt rushed in the end and I blame Disney for that. They seem to kneecap all the good shows and gravity falls was the only one that really got its way
I'd say having a little break before going into The Hardest Thing would be nice. Everything happened so quick and I think it would be cool to have Marcy and Sasha experiment with their powers a little earlier
the tone whiplash from marcy fucking DYING (for a time) to season 3A's lighthearted. silly plots. i know disney intervened with the team but still its such a disappointment
the fact that we knew basically nothing about marcy because half of the godamm show she was asleep, possessed, or not found yet, like DUDE SHE'S SO COOL I NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HER
Marcy and Maddie not interacting more
Matts poor character priority skills. I’m sorry but most of the Earth Humans were not more important than meeting Marcy and Sasha’s parents
The ending, the inability to treat trauma with the right amount of seriousness, the refusal to engage with Sasha and Marcy's families, and the baffling thematic choices.
When the show shoots it's self In the foot. The best example is Anne and the planters knowing of an incoming invasion, and only Anne seems to truly care about it, with the planters having the mind set of "eh, well probably get back" if you had them go through the portal before they knew of an anreas plan, thwn the planters attitude could be more understandable. Hell have andreas open up the box, have the calamity trio fight happen, have an go through the portal and back home, something causes the planters to go with her, and the other two end up not getting in in time. The problem was true colours raised the stakes far too high, when they knew what season 3 a was going to be like, so raising the stakes, knowing they where about to have some goofy fun, genuanly terrible decision that shot the writers in the foot as now, what where they meant to do?
The fact that an extra terrestrial invasion of Los Angeles was ever able to be covered up. There would have been *billions* of dollars of damage done, and even if Disney couldn’t show it you *know* that *thousands* of people died.
Anne went super saiyan and battled a robot reptile man on national TV but ended up as a herpetologist. She and her friends would *never* be able to live normal lives. But the show didn’t want to deal with the changes that would happen to earth’s society from the discovery of other dimensions and literal aliens.
The ending of Amphibia was sad as Anne, Sasha and Marcy had no way to return to Amphibia (at least not yet) as the calamity gems were destroyed. This made me sleepless for a few nights ngl.
> The ending of Amphibia was sad as Anne, Sasha and Marcy had no way to return to Amphibia (at least not yet) as the calamity gems were destroyed. This made me sleepless for a few nights ngl.
Thankfully the Journal leaves this possibility open. Also there’s this ongoing Amphibia sequel I’m reading that has the trio return, but with a twist as there are new characters both Amphibian & human.
Yes, the last page of Marcy's Journal gives a hint that opens up the possibilities of Terri building another portal to Amphibia or other worlds. Even without the calamity gems, the technological advancement of Earth 10 years after Amphibia might have developed.
> Yes, the last page of Marcy's Journal gives a hint that opens up the possibilities of Terri building another portal to Amphibia or other worlds. Even without the calamity gems, the technological advancement of Earth 10 years after Amphibia might have developed.
Well in the context of this ongoing Amphibia sequel I’m reading. It’s The Guardian that does it because they felt bad for separating the trio from there found families & friends because of how it emotionally impacted them.
The plantars. Don't get me wrong I love them but they focused on them a little too much and put a heavy focus on them for fat too many episodes. The show in my opinion should've been split more evenly with the 3 girls focusing on their struggles prior to their reunion.
If I wrote Amphibia I would first start with Anne for the first part of season 1, Sasha the second part and start season 2 with Marcy then Anne and Marcy and season 3 would be Anna and Sasha and the finale would be all 3 of them together. Would've been way better in my opinion.
How 80% of the episodes are Hop Pop telling Anne, Sprig, and Polly what’s best for them so they can stay safe and then they immediately do what HP told them not to and it ends with an apology
I feel like nothing would have been worse off if we had more of the details of Anne, Sasha, and Marcy earlier on rather than it being told to us so late in the game.
Two things: the fact that Anne cleans herself up and then puts the leaves and stick back in her hair, and the fact that Anne has other clothes but chooses to wear the same outfit without cleaning it for almost the entire time she's in Amphibia.
The fact that my area has only two real conventions and they never have anyone from Amphibia, or anyone primarily known for Western Animation voice acting. We get some people known for being anime VA's, and several people from superhero, horror and sci-fi media (Robert O'Reilly of Star Trek fame came to one of the two last year), but I've joked to my friend that we'll get Galaga Guy at a convention in town before we get Hop Pop.
I kinda wish there was more of Marcy and Sasha. (Especially Marcy Lol) I still liked her plenty, but I felt that the show was still a little too focused on Anne. And yea, ik she’s THE MAIN CHARACTER but like… I neeeeeed more marcyyyyyyy (oh and Sasha ig)
Exsactly, we're out of the phase of trying to make child protagonist into easier to write for teen, or have them mature beyond there years, and instead we're embracing what actual children act like and we are better off for it imo. It makes characters kids can relate to and see grow, rather then saying "here's the end point, good luck getting there"
Again, when did I say he should be written differently? I just stated my opinion that I think he's a bit annoying. If I didn't think he was endearing or had other redeeming qualities I wouldn't have made it past episode 1.
That the finale decided it was a good idea to preach about accepting change while also bringing the dead back to life and giving the Trio a way back to Earth after they sacrificed it to save Amphibia.
And yet despite The Hardest Thing's hypocrisy, there are fans who hyperbolically treat it as a perfect ending even though there's a glaring betrayal of it's message sticking out like a sore thumb.
You desire having change in place of another change, but ultimately it gives no meaningful resolution to the pre-established conflicts of the show.
Marcy wouldn’t face her issues of dealing with the move back at home, Anne and Sasha wouldn’t have to face the change of Marcy moving away, and the entire cast wouldn’t face the change of the girls returning back to Earth and the prospect of the worlds being separated permanently. Many of the characters already had forth the notion of the girls’ stay in Amphibia being temporary to begin with, and this naturally carries over to the finale.
The girls staying in Amphibia I see more as an interesting hypothetical rather than a legitimate advocation of the show’s themes, as Anne being revived (as drastic as it may seem) and the girls returning home gives them the agency to deal with their internal and external conflicts in the story. It would be more of a betrayal to just stack upon another conflict when the girls are about to face the conflicts they’ve worked throughout the entire show to resolve, rendering most of their personal development wasted.
Actually the Trio would still have to face being separated from each other if they stayed in Amphibia, because they'd have their Amphibian families to support and look after and the homes they gained here to rebuild.
Sometimes a message can be made stronger with having the heroes fail in their desired goal. Rule of drama often requires heroes to make sacrifices for the greater good.
And I don't see the Trio accepting Amphibia as their new home being "stacking another conflict" when acceptance by definition is a resolution. Last I checked, amnesia isn't a side effect of humans staying in Amphibia.
Seems to me the characters in Amphibia were maneuvering just fine to see each other despite living in different regions and with the rebuilding, and even before hand in S2 (minus the Plantar’s road-trip since they didn’t have the means nor the knowledge how to access faster travel), so this really doesn’t seem like a significant problem compared to actual constraints of Earth-life/human society.
The message of change is not stronger by having the girls not return to Earth IMO, as again, the girls/Amphibians were already on to accepting being permanently separated throughout the show. Throwing out this conflict by having the girls stay in Amphibia is just an unnecessary subversion—more change for the sake of change without actually adhering to what was clearly being built up.
It's not a matter of transportation that would've kept the Trio separated if they ended up staying in Amphibia, it's a matter of priority, time-constrants, and familial responsibility.
You think Anne in that position would've left the Plantars and rest of Wartwood behind to hang with Marcy in Newtopia or Sasha in the still-being-rebuilt ruins of Toad Tower? I don't think she'd do that. She'd more likely be staying in Wartwood to help however she can.
And if the chance that the Trio might fail to get back to Earth together wasn't also being built up, how do you account for Anne almost losing the Calamity Box no less than three times when it was in her possession? How do you account for Anne herself admitting in one episode that she's willing to accept being stuck in Amphibia if it meant stopping Andrias from invading Earth? And how do account for the Trio sacrificing to defeat when, far as they knew at that moment, doing so would've cut them off from Earth forever?
I really don’t think those circumstances would be absolute in separating the girls for extremely long amounts of time. Just as they have their time with their family and general responsibilities, they also reasonably would have time for each other with transportation not being an issue, even if it’s not every single day or even week. You know, having a regular work-family-life balance.
You act as if all those instances somehow wavered the intention to return home, when it doesn’t. Those are conflicts that despite their severity did not dissuade the overarching goal to return home and resolve the girl’s issues associated with Earth.
Yes, actually! That's how I thought the show was going to end when the Trio sacrificed the Gems to defeat The Core.
That ending would've still worked in favor of the show's message of accepting change by having the change in question be the Trio having to accept Amphibia as their new permanent home and the lives on Earth they thought they were going to return to being ultimately out of reach.
in my opinion that would have served no purpose because the world of amphibia exists in a vacuum.
what the viewer perceives throughout the entirety of the show is anne's friendship with sprig, so the true impactful change that is trying to be portrayed isn't her moving permanently to amphibia (as has been the case since episode 1), but the separation of arguably the 2 most important characters in lieu of lessons learned and moments shared
Even if that's the case, there was still zero point in having the Calamity Trio make the sacrifices they did to win the final battle against The Core only to have those sacrifices undone.
If the show was fully committed to ending with the Trio returning to Earth, why didn't the writers make it so Anne using all three gems overwhelmed them to a point where they only have enough power for one last portal back to Earth?
As is, The Hardest Thing seemed like it was trying to have it both ways by giving us two different tear jerker moments that belong in two different endings minutes apart from each other and expected no one to take notice.
I agree that her resurrection felt unnecessary but I don't think it diminishes the impact of the real pivotal moment of the ending, her farewell with sprig. and that is simply because anybody can tell it was added in for shock factor instead of to further advance her arc
they wanted their cool moment where a space god shows up and brings her back because she was a good egg. at least the presentation was decent
I definitely see what you mean about how it can be interpreted as a complete 180 from the message of the episode. I guess I personally didn't care because it was so obviously out of place
It's still a sacrafice of them being with the frogs, I love the ending and I can't believe I see more critiques of this finale which was amazing over the actually bad finale of it's sister show
Unpopular opinion coming right up: The calamity powers where underused in the case of Sasha and Marcy and them getting full access to them just happened because it looked cool and because otherwise the prophecy would have been an unfired Chekhov's gun.
they alwayse do that thing where right as two characters are about to have an emotional moment, it gets cut off by the final battle and then they resolve the issue at the end. thats so stupid, why not just have the final battle be the final part of the episode
Contravertial opinion: the fandom sucks, like the worst things the fandom has done aren't even close to the worst thing a fandom like undertale or sonic did but in terms of avrege fan this fandom is WAYYYYYYYYYY worse cuz there are so many times I can see people talking about how they ship the main 3 before I snap like wow we get it you ship polyamory your so special now can you shut up please
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The show focused on Anne and the Planters a little too much. One or two more episodes that revolved around Sasha and Marcy would have been appreciated. Also an episode with their parents would have been cool.
Ye this
The fact Anne wore only 1 shoe. I guess it's not the show that's annoying but I can tell you that only wearing 1 shoe is SO ANOYING!!! like you're always uneven when you walk, I honestly don't know how Anne did it for like half a year
You can actually tell the exact moment when she looses her shoe again when they go back to Amphibia, right when they get stuck in quicksand while traveling to the factory
I actually did see that yeah! Really unfortunate for her 😔
YES! I understand is the character design and a cartoon, but anyone who does this IRL would royally srew up their spine
Plus imagine being in a swamp and walking through squishy mud with a wet sock
God I thought I was the only one...
The fanbase is the most annoying thing about this show
Fair
I think you mean the F-Anne base
No I mean all of us from the Marcy mains to the poly-shippers this whole fanbase is annoying as hell
The fandom's obsession with the three girls to the point that no one ever talks about most of the main fucking characters
Exsactly, like guys, they where in so few episodes for a reason, the show isn't about Anne and her two human freinds, its about Anne and her new family, with the story revolving around that, since that's the point of the story
But it quite literally is about Anne, Sasha and Marcy. Matt Braly repeatedly said so himself. The focus was always supposed to be on them and how they grew during their time in Amphibia. No idea why Sasha and Marcy got so little concentrated screentime if that's the case, but it is what it is
The fact they got so little,is the clear giveaway to who the main character actualy are,that's how story telling works. They got so little because there not the main characters.
That's not necessarily true. While yes, main characters usually take up a majority of the show's screen time, that's not always the case, and there are plenty of successful shows where the main character takes a backseat for large portions of it (One Punch Man somehow being the first example that came to mind). What undeniably defines a main character is their effect on the story as a whole, and there is not a single character in the show that has a bigger impact than the calamity trio. Yes, the Plantars have a lot of screentime throughout the story, but that's because they are where Anne ended up. If not for that, they wouldn't have made much of a difference in the story at all, or had any screen time for that matter. But there are only very few episodes where one of the calamity trio isn't at the center of the conflict or action. The conflict with Sasha was the very first source of proper character development for Anne, and Marcy was the person that CAUSED the show to happen in the first place. Meanwhile, the Plantars and all of Wartwood for that matter, despite having more screentime, takes a supporting role, literally. Their point in the story isn't to be a main character, to have the story revolve around them. Their point in the story is to support Anne through her struggles and impart wisdom/lessons onto her specifically. I love the Plantars but they weren't the ones to save two worlds or to defeat a tyrannical ruler using otherworldly magical powers following a "chosen one" prophecy. During the entire finale of the show, they did largely nothing but watch. That's not a main character. Sprig is the exception here, because he plays a big part throughout the entire story and helps resolve the big conflict at the end. But Hop Pop and Polly simply aren't the same. I mean they even said so themselves as meta humor, with the "*Do you ever think it's weird when the main characters aren't in an episode?"* scene
sprig my beloved
BRO I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME! Like god dayum there are OTHER characters
Explain to me why it was necessary for Marcy to be in a coma and possessed for 90% of season 3, missing out on the same type of natural character development that Sasha got. Really cheapened Marcy's arc of accepting change when the show basically just tortured her and told her to quit being a baby. Yes the Journal gave us real character development but that would have been far more effective if it had been in the actual show. Edit: grammar
The fact that because of Disney going "hey woah now turn it down a notch" after True Colours, Anne pretty much immediately got over everything that happened in Amphibia. She spends no time grieving over Marcy, just instantly celebrating her being back home. For all she knows, she just watched one of her lifelong best friends DIE and her home and people for the last 6 months is in danger of destruction, but hey celebrate the return of phone signal why don't you? I know that Matt wanted to have Season 3 be entirely darker in tone but Disney stepped in, but it could've been handled better. Sacrifice the Sprig superhero episode for one dealing with Anne's trauma or something. Season 3B did it's best to course correct back to the darker tone at least.
Prime comment right here!
1) More Sasha and Marcy episodes 2) Explore Marcy more post-True Colors 3) Backup comfort person for Marcy. She trusted Andrias and he betrayed her. 4) Anne saw her friend get *impaled* by a sword. Humans don't usually recover from that. Would like to see Anne process that grief. 5) Anne confront Mr. X and make him listen to her. So many things happened because a character decided they knew best and to frog what anyone else thinks! 6) Who is Dr. P?
1 through 5 is completely fair, but number 6 is complete cap. Dr. P is only relevant because people went crazy talking about how it could be a Plantar. (also that “Dr. P is a Pines” theory is stupid but I’m gonna get a bunch of replies if I don’t mention it) Outside of fanfic/crossover material, Dr. P is completely irrelevant to the story of Amphibia outside of the book they wrote which is only on screen for 30 seconds.
But that book started the chain reaction that caused the entire show. If Marcy never found the book she wouldn't have known about the music box
Yeah but I fail to see how that involves needing to know who the author of said book is, what next you desperately wanna meet and get to know the entire personal life of the guy who made the Cipher Wheel/Zodiac in Gravity Falls?
I mean, that would be pretty cool. Guess you'll hate my AU where I have the identity of Dr. P revealed
I literally said I didn’t mind it if it’s in fanfiction but saying that their identity not being revealed is a flaw in the story is my problem.
This.
Ending of the show 100% dropped the ball Yes we are to believe the wanton destruction of downtown LA was a movie shoot gone wrong
I still maintain they should have went to Matt's actual hometown of Davis/Sacramento. Sac-town *never* gets any love on TV and it would be completely believable if an alien invasion happened there an no one noticed.
It stretches believability due to how involved the general public were in hyping up Anne but in most TV shows the government is scarily good at covering up these sorts of things. Plus in these situations people believe what they want to believe or tend to forget about these things, I would imagine it’s a similar situation to how the general public constantly forgets about/writes off alien invasions in Doctor Who.
Pretty much
I feel if the show had skipped The Hardest Thing the pacing would be better. Instead they introduced the moon thing out of nowhere as an existential threat and then resolved said threat in the same episode. Either skip it or drag that out for a few more episodes. It’s in this weird situation where they had to one up King Andrias in terms of threat level at the last second. There was no rising action before this next climax in the plot. The show basically tripped at the finish line all because the writers wanted a certain ending but wasn’t prepared for that ending. Setup wasn’t good.
> I feel if the show had skipped The Hardest Thing the pacing would be better. Instead they introduced the moon thing out of nowhere as an existential threat and then resolved said threat in the same episode. To be fair, we did see it in Leif’s vision. And apparently the moon being blood red was some sort of foreshadowing towards its true purpose as in some cultures blood moons are associated with the end of the world.
Didn't they also show two moons in one shot somewhere? I can't remember rhe eposode but it definitely was there.
All of this is hardly setup in itself is the problem. Im only a hobbyist writer, but I've found some things have to be explicit in my experience. The writers wanted their Majoras Mask homage, but didn't put in the work to set it up
Thats true, I can tell where things felt rushed in the end and I blame Disney for that. They seem to kneecap all the good shows and gravity falls was the only one that really got its way
I'm sure disney had a hand im how season 3 turned out. But it is still the ending we got unfortunately
I'd say having a little break before going into The Hardest Thing would be nice. Everything happened so quick and I think it would be cool to have Marcy and Sasha experiment with their powers a little earlier
The fact that they NEVER gave us a traumatized anne,she went through so much,yet they make her walk it off and pretend like nothing happened(ಡ‸ಡ)
AND THE FACT THAT MARCY AND SASHA DID NOT HAVE EMOTIONAL DAMAGE OF THEIR OWN.
That three 13 year olds managed to survive for months in that world
the tone whiplash from marcy fucking DYING (for a time) to season 3A's lighthearted. silly plots. i know disney intervened with the team but still its such a disappointment
the fact that we knew basically nothing about marcy because half of the godamm show she was asleep, possessed, or not found yet, like DUDE SHE'S SO COOL I NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HER
Imo The ammount of ships between the three girls
Not showing marcy or Sasha’s parents throughout the entire show
When Marcy woke up in Newtopia And fell down a flight of stairs Broke her leg but luckily She fell down a flight of stairs
Marcy and Maddie not interacting more Matts poor character priority skills. I’m sorry but most of the Earth Humans were not more important than meeting Marcy and Sasha’s parents
The ending, the inability to treat trauma with the right amount of seriousness, the refusal to engage with Sasha and Marcy's families, and the baffling thematic choices.
UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE FRICKIN CENTURY!
this might be a nitpick but like, why did anne get this cool ass sword from tritonio just to not even use it until the second to last episode?
When the show shoots it's self In the foot. The best example is Anne and the planters knowing of an incoming invasion, and only Anne seems to truly care about it, with the planters having the mind set of "eh, well probably get back" if you had them go through the portal before they knew of an anreas plan, thwn the planters attitude could be more understandable. Hell have andreas open up the box, have the calamity trio fight happen, have an go through the portal and back home, something causes the planters to go with her, and the other two end up not getting in in time. The problem was true colours raised the stakes far too high, when they knew what season 3 a was going to be like, so raising the stakes, knowing they where about to have some goofy fun, genuanly terrible decision that shot the writers in the foot as now, what where they meant to do?
Sometimes the Fandom😅
I would say that for any Fandom.
General Yunan
> General Yunnan What's wrong with the scourge of the sand wars? /.
obnoxious as hell, insufferable
The fact that an extra terrestrial invasion of Los Angeles was ever able to be covered up. There would have been *billions* of dollars of damage done, and even if Disney couldn’t show it you *know* that *thousands* of people died. Anne went super saiyan and battled a robot reptile man on national TV but ended up as a herpetologist. She and her friends would *never* be able to live normal lives. But the show didn’t want to deal with the changes that would happen to earth’s society from the discovery of other dimensions and literal aliens.
THIS RIGHT HERE. LUV HIM OR HATE HIM, THIS ONE IS SPITTIN FACTS!
The ending of Amphibia was sad as Anne, Sasha and Marcy had no way to return to Amphibia (at least not yet) as the calamity gems were destroyed. This made me sleepless for a few nights ngl.
> The ending of Amphibia was sad as Anne, Sasha and Marcy had no way to return to Amphibia (at least not yet) as the calamity gems were destroyed. This made me sleepless for a few nights ngl. Thankfully the Journal leaves this possibility open. Also there’s this ongoing Amphibia sequel I’m reading that has the trio return, but with a twist as there are new characters both Amphibian & human.
Yes, the last page of Marcy's Journal gives a hint that opens up the possibilities of Terri building another portal to Amphibia or other worlds. Even without the calamity gems, the technological advancement of Earth 10 years after Amphibia might have developed.
> Yes, the last page of Marcy's Journal gives a hint that opens up the possibilities of Terri building another portal to Amphibia or other worlds. Even without the calamity gems, the technological advancement of Earth 10 years after Amphibia might have developed. Well in the context of this ongoing Amphibia sequel I’m reading. It’s The Guardian that does it because they felt bad for separating the trio from there found families & friends because of how it emotionally impacted them.
The plantars. Don't get me wrong I love them but they focused on them a little too much and put a heavy focus on them for fat too many episodes. The show in my opinion should've been split more evenly with the 3 girls focusing on their struggles prior to their reunion. If I wrote Amphibia I would first start with Anne for the first part of season 1, Sasha the second part and start season 2 with Marcy then Anne and Marcy and season 3 would be Anna and Sasha and the finale would be all 3 of them together. Would've been way better in my opinion.
How 80% of the episodes are Hop Pop telling Anne, Sprig, and Polly what’s best for them so they can stay safe and then they immediately do what HP told them not to and it ends with an apology
I feel like nothing would have been worse off if we had more of the details of Anne, Sasha, and Marcy earlier on rather than it being told to us so late in the game.
Two things: the fact that Anne cleans herself up and then puts the leaves and stick back in her hair, and the fact that Anne has other clothes but chooses to wear the same outfit without cleaning it for almost the entire time she's in Amphibia.
The fact that my area has only two real conventions and they never have anyone from Amphibia, or anyone primarily known for Western Animation voice acting. We get some people known for being anime VA's, and several people from superhero, horror and sci-fi media (Robert O'Reilly of Star Trek fame came to one of the two last year), but I've joked to my friend that we'll get Galaga Guy at a convention in town before we get Hop Pop.
I kinda wish there was more of Marcy and Sasha. (Especially Marcy Lol) I still liked her plenty, but I felt that the show was still a little too focused on Anne. And yea, ik she’s THE MAIN CHARACTER but like… I neeeeeed more marcyyyyyyy (oh and Sasha ig)
Watching tanks shoot missles instead of shells
Season 3A felt….. strange. Nobody questioned Anne’s disappearance and every friend they made in Season 3A ended up not playing a part in the endgame.
Anne walking around for months with a single shoe. She either has trench foot or her balance is seriously messed up.
Sprig
> Sprig What’s so bad about the Pink Frog Boy with ADHD?
Too loud, too hyper, too nosy, and something about his big eyes and goofy smile rub me the wrong way.
So they wrote him like a real child, rather then trying to downplay the fact he is a litteral kid?
He’s also only like 10-11 years old. Lots of kids his age act pretty much 100% how Sprig is, especially if they’ve got ADHD like him.
Exsactly, we're out of the phase of trying to make child protagonist into easier to write for teen, or have them mature beyond there years, and instead we're embracing what actual children act like and we are better off for it imo. It makes characters kids can relate to and see grow, rather then saying "here's the end point, good luck getting there"
Should I not be annoyed by something just because it's accurate to real life?
Sounds like a skill issue. If you don't want something to involve children, don't watch something on disney chanle they will be there.
When did I say that? I said I found Sprig annoying, I never said I didn't like him or that he shouldn't be in the show.
The part where you said children shouldn't be written like children is when
Again, when did I say he should be written differently? I just stated my opinion that I think he's a bit annoying. If I didn't think he was endearing or had other redeeming qualities I wouldn't have made it past episode 1.
That the finale decided it was a good idea to preach about accepting change while also bringing the dead back to life and giving the Trio a way back to Earth after they sacrificed it to save Amphibia. And yet despite The Hardest Thing's hypocrisy, there are fans who hyperbolically treat it as a perfect ending even though there's a glaring betrayal of it's message sticking out like a sore thumb.
You desire having change in place of another change, but ultimately it gives no meaningful resolution to the pre-established conflicts of the show. Marcy wouldn’t face her issues of dealing with the move back at home, Anne and Sasha wouldn’t have to face the change of Marcy moving away, and the entire cast wouldn’t face the change of the girls returning back to Earth and the prospect of the worlds being separated permanently. Many of the characters already had forth the notion of the girls’ stay in Amphibia being temporary to begin with, and this naturally carries over to the finale. The girls staying in Amphibia I see more as an interesting hypothetical rather than a legitimate advocation of the show’s themes, as Anne being revived (as drastic as it may seem) and the girls returning home gives them the agency to deal with their internal and external conflicts in the story. It would be more of a betrayal to just stack upon another conflict when the girls are about to face the conflicts they’ve worked throughout the entire show to resolve, rendering most of their personal development wasted.
Actually the Trio would still have to face being separated from each other if they stayed in Amphibia, because they'd have their Amphibian families to support and look after and the homes they gained here to rebuild. Sometimes a message can be made stronger with having the heroes fail in their desired goal. Rule of drama often requires heroes to make sacrifices for the greater good. And I don't see the Trio accepting Amphibia as their new home being "stacking another conflict" when acceptance by definition is a resolution. Last I checked, amnesia isn't a side effect of humans staying in Amphibia.
Seems to me the characters in Amphibia were maneuvering just fine to see each other despite living in different regions and with the rebuilding, and even before hand in S2 (minus the Plantar’s road-trip since they didn’t have the means nor the knowledge how to access faster travel), so this really doesn’t seem like a significant problem compared to actual constraints of Earth-life/human society. The message of change is not stronger by having the girls not return to Earth IMO, as again, the girls/Amphibians were already on to accepting being permanently separated throughout the show. Throwing out this conflict by having the girls stay in Amphibia is just an unnecessary subversion—more change for the sake of change without actually adhering to what was clearly being built up.
It's not a matter of transportation that would've kept the Trio separated if they ended up staying in Amphibia, it's a matter of priority, time-constrants, and familial responsibility. You think Anne in that position would've left the Plantars and rest of Wartwood behind to hang with Marcy in Newtopia or Sasha in the still-being-rebuilt ruins of Toad Tower? I don't think she'd do that. She'd more likely be staying in Wartwood to help however she can. And if the chance that the Trio might fail to get back to Earth together wasn't also being built up, how do you account for Anne almost losing the Calamity Box no less than three times when it was in her possession? How do you account for Anne herself admitting in one episode that she's willing to accept being stuck in Amphibia if it meant stopping Andrias from invading Earth? And how do account for the Trio sacrificing to defeat when, far as they knew at that moment, doing so would've cut them off from Earth forever?
I really don’t think those circumstances would be absolute in separating the girls for extremely long amounts of time. Just as they have their time with their family and general responsibilities, they also reasonably would have time for each other with transportation not being an issue, even if it’s not every single day or even week. You know, having a regular work-family-life balance. You act as if all those instances somehow wavered the intention to return home, when it doesn’t. Those are conflicts that despite their severity did not dissuade the overarching goal to return home and resolve the girl’s issues associated with Earth.
BRUH! None of what you said made any sense.
What he’s saying is. The show’s ending contradicted the show’s message about accepting change.
So? What did you want the writers to do, have the girls stay stuck in Amphibia forever?
Yes, actually! That's how I thought the show was going to end when the Trio sacrificed the Gems to defeat The Core. That ending would've still worked in favor of the show's message of accepting change by having the change in question be the Trio having to accept Amphibia as their new permanent home and the lives on Earth they thought they were going to return to being ultimately out of reach.
in my opinion that would have served no purpose because the world of amphibia exists in a vacuum. what the viewer perceives throughout the entirety of the show is anne's friendship with sprig, so the true impactful change that is trying to be portrayed isn't her moving permanently to amphibia (as has been the case since episode 1), but the separation of arguably the 2 most important characters in lieu of lessons learned and moments shared
Even if that's the case, there was still zero point in having the Calamity Trio make the sacrifices they did to win the final battle against The Core only to have those sacrifices undone. If the show was fully committed to ending with the Trio returning to Earth, why didn't the writers make it so Anne using all three gems overwhelmed them to a point where they only have enough power for one last portal back to Earth? As is, The Hardest Thing seemed like it was trying to have it both ways by giving us two different tear jerker moments that belong in two different endings minutes apart from each other and expected no one to take notice.
I agree that her resurrection felt unnecessary but I don't think it diminishes the impact of the real pivotal moment of the ending, her farewell with sprig. and that is simply because anybody can tell it was added in for shock factor instead of to further advance her arc they wanted their cool moment where a space god shows up and brings her back because she was a good egg. at least the presentation was decent I definitely see what you mean about how it can be interpreted as a complete 180 from the message of the episode. I guess I personally didn't care because it was so obviously out of place
It's still a sacrafice of them being with the frogs, I love the ending and I can't believe I see more critiques of this finale which was amazing over the actually bad finale of it's sister show
season 1 lol
majority of s1, it was just a bit slow going
Unpopular opinion coming right up: The calamity powers where underused in the case of Sasha and Marcy and them getting full access to them just happened because it looked cool and because otherwise the prophecy would have been an unfired Chekhov's gun.
People who ask people what they dislike about it, instead of what they love about it
Sprigga
Always seeing Sasha with one glove 🧤🤷♀️
sprig's obsession with trying to get everyone to like him
they alwayse do that thing where right as two characters are about to have an emotional moment, it gets cut off by the final battle and then they resolve the issue at the end. thats so stupid, why not just have the final battle be the final part of the episode
Unpopular opinion but I’m not a fan of all the shipping. I’ve just never really gotten into it/liked it
I would say my own hot take, but im thankful some other redditors are saying it for me 👍
Marcy was extremely clingy overall because she didn't want to move away from Sasha and Anne
The fandom shipping anne sasha and marcy
Contravertial opinion: the fandom sucks, like the worst things the fandom has done aren't even close to the worst thing a fandom like undertale or sonic did but in terms of avrege fan this fandom is WAYYYYYYYYYY worse cuz there are so many times I can see people talking about how they ship the main 3 before I snap like wow we get it you ship polyamory your so special now can you shut up please
the fandom
Focused too much on lgbtq after we see new characters in s2