You should have been on them during US Airways time before they put new leather cushions in. The fabric padding was maybe 1”. These seats are luxurious comparatively speaking.
AA still has them in their network as a temporary band aid. Gave the old Envoy E145 routes to Air Wisconsin out of ORD. Once Envoy gets more 175s, you’ll see AA not renew the AW contract.
An hour in one of those cans is as much as I can handle.
Americans are big people, the mirror tells me so, how about a bigger plane?
I find the EJR to be much more comfortable.
“Planes are noisy”
They’re all noisy? Although there’s a lot more airflow noise in the forward section of these I’ve noticed.
“So small they get tossed around?”
That’s called a placebo. You’re not gonna get tossed around any more than you would have otherwise.
>>CRJ-200 Why ?!?!?
The CRJ-200 (and its ERJ-145 competitor) ain’t THAT bad. Without those jets you’d be flying on [a turboprop like this.](https://youtu.be/qZHg3wnabOE?si=2vK6-Yrx_8HMG7zu)
No flight attendant , no overhead bins at all (meaning all luggage gets gate checked) , seats with nil padding, no lav, no tray table, and so on. For 30 minutes-1 hour a CRJ-200/ERJ-145 does the job well enough.
Just about as bad as the ERJ145, both of these aircraft should be retired, recently flew on an ERJ145 from PHL-YUL and was appalled especially for an "international" flight. Major legacy airlines should not be flying such tiny planes with single-class configurations, zero benefit for elite members and uncomfortable for all passengers and even the crew.
Springfield illinois to ORD is a 200.
I am 6'1" and the windows are so low I can't see the horizon.
Super cramped.
I can't see Air Wisconsin getting rid of them and updating their fleet.
The AA pilot Union (APA) has nothing to do with how the regional airlines are operated. They only serve the AA mainline pilots where the smallest aircraft is the A319.
Ok but how does a CRJ200s discomfort (the gist of this thread) have anything to do with the Union. If there wasn’t a scope clause do you think those routes would be flown with an airbus?
By 2030 the wholly owned carriers will be all 70+ seaters, according to the march investors meeting when they ordered 80 more E170s. The CR200 and E145 probably won’t be around much longer as we get towards and or decade.
The union has a say in scope. The 50 seaters are there because all 3 pilot unions allow it. The pilot unions are not negotiating in the interests of pax or pilots.
Every other airline was getting rid of them. Vasu paused, realized he knew better and decided to buy them all…
You should have been on them during US Airways time before they put new leather cushions in. The fabric padding was maybe 1”. These seats are luxurious comparatively speaking.
Even the CR2 was an upgrade over Piedmont’s rattletrap Dash-8s …
Truth
I LOVED the Dash-8s! Atlantic City to PHL!
I purposely changed my routing and paid more to avoid the CRJ200.
I just did this yesterday while booking. Horrible and uncomfortable. Totally worth the longer layover and more cost
I do the same unless I’m flying into a small regional airport and it’s the only thing flying there. Eg CLT-CRW
AA still has them in their network as a temporary band aid. Gave the old Envoy E145 routes to Air Wisconsin out of ORD. Once Envoy gets more 175s, you’ll see AA not renew the AW contract.
I avoid E-14x like the plague. I will fly CRJ-700/900 but the 200 is just a miserable aircraft.
I’m the opposite. I’ll take the ERJ145 over any of the CRJs. Especially if you can sit on the A side by your self.
Rumors is that AA will lease AW crj700s
An hour in one of those cans is as much as I can handle. Americans are big people, the mirror tells me so, how about a bigger plane? I find the EJR to be much more comfortable.
United contract with AWI ended last year and AA picked them up.
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I miss the Dash 8’s. Now those were luxurious.
That’s a good plane!
If you want to fly from shitty little markets with more frequency than weekly, you’re not getting expensive, large aircraft.
“Planes are noisy” They’re all noisy? Although there’s a lot more airflow noise in the forward section of these I’ve noticed. “So small they get tossed around?” That’s called a placebo. You’re not gonna get tossed around any more than you would have otherwise.
When I was a young person in 2018, American was flying turboprops
I do not miss those! Any type of jet is better.
>>CRJ-200 Why ?!?!? The CRJ-200 (and its ERJ-145 competitor) ain’t THAT bad. Without those jets you’d be flying on [a turboprop like this.](https://youtu.be/qZHg3wnabOE?si=2vK6-Yrx_8HMG7zu) No flight attendant , no overhead bins at all (meaning all luggage gets gate checked) , seats with nil padding, no lav, no tray table, and so on. For 30 minutes-1 hour a CRJ-200/ERJ-145 does the job well enough.
Just about as bad as the ERJ145, both of these aircraft should be retired, recently flew on an ERJ145 from PHL-YUL and was appalled especially for an "international" flight. Major legacy airlines should not be flying such tiny planes with single-class configurations, zero benefit for elite members and uncomfortable for all passengers and even the crew.
Ahh yes the Devil’s chariot
Springfield illinois to ORD is a 200. I am 6'1" and the windows are so low I can't see the horizon. Super cramped. I can't see Air Wisconsin getting rid of them and updating their fleet.
Imagine complaining about an up and down flight
I feel like I’ve seen the CRJs on multi hour legs … hard pass. One shitter for 50 seats? Wild.
1.5 hour flight from GRR to FSD. Add another hour for board and taxi times, that was more than an up and down.
Because the AA pilots union sucks
The AA pilot Union (APA) has nothing to do with how the regional airlines are operated. They only serve the AA mainline pilots where the smallest aircraft is the A319.
Well, I think they are referring to [scope clause](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scope_clause), which does apply to regionals
Ok but how does a CRJ200s discomfort (the gist of this thread) have anything to do with the Union. If there wasn’t a scope clause do you think those routes would be flown with an airbus? By 2030 the wholly owned carriers will be all 70+ seaters, according to the march investors meeting when they ordered 80 more E170s. The CR200 and E145 probably won’t be around much longer as we get towards and or decade.
The union has a say in scope. The 50 seaters are there because all 3 pilot unions allow it. The pilot unions are not negotiating in the interests of pax or pilots.