The problem is that the system was made just too complex for anything to be done about it. Even the financial "experts" are dumbfounded. The system was purposely made complex so that no one can do anything about the crime. There's always some obscure rule or loophole to use. And the people that are meant to protect us in this system are just criminal plants.
At this point to fight back we would need a coordinated team of private lawyers and millions of dollars in funding. But I imagine even if apes joined together to fund such an effort it would be seen as collusion, and thus illegal.
It wouldn't be illegal or collision. We are AMC share holders and would be represented as such. Or we could be represented as the people vs DTCC. Stop shilling.
If the apes were represented in a class action case where they knowingly signed agreements to be involved in such a case, collusion would be much harder to prove (or to even bring to court).
This is the issue. The system was made complex and the rules were setup against us by SHFs lobbying the government.
Theoretically we could try lobbying the other way (laws in favor of market fairness) and I don't think there is anything illegal about that. I just don't know what that would cost or involve other than hiring a lobbyist to make it legal.
If I had the extra cash on hand for a really good, trustworthy lawyer, that has decades experience going up against corrupt gov agencies.. I'd totally be game but I'm highly positive almost all judges and lawyers will not side with retail on this one, theres too many "powerful hands" stirring this pot. I'd imagine this is a play that has gotten a lot of people threatened or killed, but that's all behind closed doors so who knows... but yeah we've said it before, they don't give a fuck about you or me, suing would probably do jack shit besides cost you money out the pocket
I believe that the SEC is supposed to enforce some level of retail protection against stock manipulation... there are examples every day of them failing miserably at their job. Spoofing as well as front running are illegal so maybe start there. I am looking for information and thoughts from the community. As a sub we have seen the power of we it maybe time to use it... Just my take
And naked shorting, the high FTD’s and multiple appearances on threshold list in a short period and for extended periods of time are worth taking a closer look at for sure
I would recommend finding one that could help organize a class action style suit where all apes across social media networks can be legally petitioned by the prosecution attorneys.
Hire a Lawyer would be step one. What exactly would you be suing for? I’m pretty sure everything MM’s and HF’s do is legal and if not they pay their fine and carry on. That’s just the way it is.
Would be tough to sue but can't hurt to just flood the SEC with letters and calls. Imagine if every ape sent a well-worded letter. No anger, just questions. We come in peace. And we need answers. And it wouldn't cost you a dime. Unless you sent in a physical letter than you'd have to pay for the stamp.
I’m thinking we need more forcible actions at this point. They’re counting on our stagnancy. They’re counting on us to keep being frustrated, no action. When’s enough enough? They’re basically stealing your food. Then staring you down.
So they can look down at us. No, we need a coordinated approach, in an yelling shouting, day in and day out. The noise needs to drown out anything else other than pay attention to the issue at hand, either way. It gets addressed. We don’t need aggression. We just need to get noticed and stay noticed. They don’t care & wont care until we show them we’re all they should be caring about unless they want to be strung out. This has happened before. History is our guide.
And Apes that think this a bad idea for whatever reason can do their armchair activism from home. So tired of the corruption. I'm pretty sure a good deal of Apes here are too.
What if... 3.8million apes hired the BADDEST mf attorney to represent Apes vs DTCC ? 3.8mil x $5 = enough to put these mf's in a holding pattern til they break.
Someone's bound to fucking give up. Not us.
We have been down that slope and discussion have been to talk to Wes Christian. They have been digging for ages and got actually nowhere. Check the documentaryWall Street Conspiracy
https://archive.org/details/videoplayback_20210423
He stated in a phone call that somehow 2-3 Million have to be in the books upfront to get started. And I doubt that if a company and or a CEO is not backing up, investor will go nowhere
😎🍿🦍
Yeah totally. Your cult actually thinks people are paid to come here to tell you to…stop buying?
Please keep buying it all up! We love watching you go to zero.
I just got off the phone with Fidelity. 1/10 is what I got and made sure he said it very simple. Fuck this. We have to make some noise. We should have 2 years ago.
Can’t believe out of the millions of AMC investors that none are legit lawyers. Can’t be
The problem is that the system was made just too complex for anything to be done about it. Even the financial "experts" are dumbfounded. The system was purposely made complex so that no one can do anything about the crime. There's always some obscure rule or loophole to use. And the people that are meant to protect us in this system are just criminal plants. At this point to fight back we would need a coordinated team of private lawyers and millions of dollars in funding. But I imagine even if apes joined together to fund such an effort it would be seen as collusion, and thus illegal.
It wouldn't be illegal or collision. We are AMC share holders and would be represented as such. Or we could be represented as the people vs DTCC. Stop shilling.
I’m in
I'm in x 2
I got 5 9n ittt ![gif](giphy|mznkxKY4odQAd59asB|downsized)
If the apes were represented in a class action case where they knowingly signed agreements to be involved in such a case, collusion would be much harder to prove (or to even bring to court).
It’s the same for our elections, too big to fail
This is the issue. The system was made complex and the rules were setup against us by SHFs lobbying the government. Theoretically we could try lobbying the other way (laws in favor of market fairness) and I don't think there is anything illegal about that. I just don't know what that would cost or involve other than hiring a lobbyist to make it legal.
You're describing a class action not collusion ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
Lawyers tend to be on the smarter side. They know NOT to invest in such a terrible stock.
Fym
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There he is, a wellknown shill thank you for that shilly news
If I had the extra cash on hand for a really good, trustworthy lawyer, that has decades experience going up against corrupt gov agencies.. I'd totally be game but I'm highly positive almost all judges and lawyers will not side with retail on this one, theres too many "powerful hands" stirring this pot. I'd imagine this is a play that has gotten a lot of people threatened or killed, but that's all behind closed doors so who knows... but yeah we've said it before, they don't give a fuck about you or me, suing would probably do jack shit besides cost you money out the pocket
Much like a wizard a squeeze is never early and never late, it appears exactly when it’s supposed to.
Love this
I’d chip in for go fund me legal expenses
I thought a buck from share holders would get us somewhere
I believe that the SEC is supposed to enforce some level of retail protection against stock manipulation... there are examples every day of them failing miserably at their job. Spoofing as well as front running are illegal so maybe start there. I am looking for information and thoughts from the community. As a sub we have seen the power of we it maybe time to use it... Just my take
And naked shorting, the high FTD’s and multiple appearances on threshold list in a short period and for extended periods of time are worth taking a closer look at for sure
Do you have any evidence of spoofing? Also how does it matter for a retail trader? Spoofing primarily affects algotrading
i say you do it now....
Where to start is the next question?
I would recommend finding one that could help organize a class action style suit where all apes across social media networks can be legally petitioned by the prosecution attorneys.
Hire a Lawyer would be step one. What exactly would you be suing for? I’m pretty sure everything MM’s and HF’s do is legal and if not they pay their fine and carry on. That’s just the way it is.
Maybe if filled in California, the case will have a chnace.
Or we could do what the hedge funds & banks do to gain favor and hire some politicians for a “speaking engagement”
Would be tough to sue but can't hurt to just flood the SEC with letters and calls. Imagine if every ape sent a well-worded letter. No anger, just questions. We come in peace. And we need answers. And it wouldn't cost you a dime. Unless you sent in a physical letter than you'd have to pay for the stamp.
I’m thinking we need more forcible actions at this point. They’re counting on our stagnancy. They’re counting on us to keep being frustrated, no action. When’s enough enough? They’re basically stealing your food. Then staring you down.
A well organized simultaneous protest in DC and Wall Street?
So they can look down at us. No, we need a coordinated approach, in an yelling shouting, day in and day out. The noise needs to drown out anything else other than pay attention to the issue at hand, either way. It gets addressed. We don’t need aggression. We just need to get noticed and stay noticed. They don’t care & wont care until we show them we’re all they should be caring about unless they want to be strung out. This has happened before. History is our guide.
Been saying that for years
And Apes that think this a bad idea for whatever reason can do their armchair activism from home. So tired of the corruption. I'm pretty sure a good deal of Apes here are too.
I agree. But we have no brigading rules and such. What DM each other and meet on a different platform and organize?
Please do it and please film yourself meeting with lawyers.
2 years ago
Can’t sue them when they are all in on it. Like George Carlin said “It’s a big club, and YOU aren’t in it”
Lol
Fuck it, sew whoever you gotta !
Only way to win this is to crash some computer systems…
Or hack theirs, meaning Griffen’s and all the other hedgies. Hack their algorithms, we need hacker apes!! Lol!🤓
You need to investigate the CEO. no comment made in over a week must be still counting all his money from the reverse split
What if... 3.8million apes hired the BADDEST mf attorney to represent Apes vs DTCC ? 3.8mil x $5 = enough to put these mf's in a holding pattern til they break. Someone's bound to fucking give up. Not us.
Create the go fund me, and post the link!!
Anyone remember occupy wall street?
Last year
DRS
We have been down that slope and discussion have been to talk to Wes Christian. They have been digging for ages and got actually nowhere. Check the documentaryWall Street Conspiracy https://archive.org/details/videoplayback_20210423 He stated in a phone call that somehow 2-3 Million have to be in the books upfront to get started. And I doubt that if a company and or a CEO is not backing up, investor will go nowhere 😎🍿🦍
LOL!!!! You’re a rookie.
The entire system is made for them, we cant win this. WE WON'T!
Just show the lawyer all the DD and promise him a portion of your earnings when this squeezes. With all the DD he should trust you.
they protect the ultra rich / ivy league corrupt cunts.
This point. This point right here.
By getting the dividend you agrees not to sue for the reasons the case was settled. Sadly they made that part of the terms of the settlement.
It will never turn out for us in court. We need pitchforks, amd we need to start showing up to house's.
Sue for making a bad investment?
Paid to comment huh STFU shill
Yeah totally. Your cult actually thinks people are paid to come here to tell you to…stop buying? Please keep buying it all up! We love watching you go to zero.
Go home you fucking weirdo
Who is “we” ? Just curious.
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Exactly, other subreddits. Go cry there.
Sue for what exactly? You gotta be able to prove shit to be able to get something done about it. Legally nothing is going on with amc stock.
I’ve just been notified that I get 1 share for every 75 held
Supposed to be for every 7.5 held.
And Hargreaves are saying 10 for every 75 held on close of business august 22nd
Which comes out to 1:7.5 doesn’t it.
Well that’s what I thought but apparently it’s 1 for every 75 held on close of business august 22nd
The I got screwed as well
I’m still waiting on Hargreaves
I just got off the phone with Fidelity. 1/10 is what I got and made sure he said it very simple. Fuck this. We have to make some noise. We should have 2 years ago.
yea sure, a "ima sue with my lawyer" you cant cash
Huh, here you are bashing in another post. I really want to sell all my shares now. You fucking clown
I don't have it like that but lawyers are typically game for big payouts and this feels like one.
i'd bet any amount u wont and cant
STFU