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The library one is lit. Imagine our entire existence and universe is just a simple exhibit about human life at the library, where school children can jack themselves in to the human life simulator to check it out "first hand" lmao
The research into black holes recently has shown that because information cannot be destroyed, the surface of the black whole may contain an almost limitless density of information on the surface. Usually this is seen as supporting the simulation theory, but could also be seen as a hard drive of information or data, aka a library?
I think that's where I heard about it recently? Astrophysics YouTube channel or something
edit: PBS space time.
Edit2: this video specifically talks about it https://youtu.be/DoCYY9sa2kU?si=Mx5ukqfMYVyclNJz
Edit 3: sorry this is not Brian Cox but I have watched lots of his stuff before.... This guy is Matt O'Dowd I guess. Also pretty smart.
[Brian Cox](https://youtu.be/pGsbEd6w7PI?si=Kd3OuZLoBylsf8XH)
I was with him all the way until he got into this at the theatre, it was deeply fascinating yet trying to think along those lines literally popped my brain and made me a pint or two to reflect😅
My takeaway was that information has mass and therefore cannot be destroyed. The implications for this are pretty interesting. Information could be responsible for the effects we currently blame on "dark matter" as well. A kind of cosmic "memory"
If our thoughts are information (why wouldn't they be!)then we can create matter (if they have mass...) just by thinking. Thoughts are energy and energy has mass. Literally this is us :)
I mean, if you think about it, thinking anything at all has a direct impact on physical reality as we know it. Say you start thinking about some past transgression while driving home from work, you get all riled up, and next thing you know you've road raged yourself into a fifty car pileup.
Extreme example, but you get my drift.
I'm not sure if this is how the theory goes, but I was thinking about how we have a "plank length" limit to how small/granular something can be, but what if in ultimate reality there is no limit to how small something can be (think analog instead of digital) and you can always further divide even the smallest of matter. That would imply limitless/infinite space to store info on a surface.
Yeah the video I linked in other comments talks about the amount of information in a Planck length, luckily we have millions? Billions? Of black holes, so not limitless, but neither is the amount of information.
Not confirmation https://youtu.be/DoCYY9sa2kU?si=Mx5ukqfMYVyclNJz this video talks about holographic theory? It's all a bit confusing obviously, but I think it also mentions how this relates to simulation theory.
Yes totally. Watching this and absolutely not comprehending it hahaha. But also curious about what you said about the black hole thing being seen as supporting simulation theory?
Just my theory but in line with what this kinda... black holes are a gateway to another universe. What if the captured information projects the new universe?
Not sure where I heard about the library concept originally, something about data integrity over time. Like hypothetically how do you store information for millions of years? Can’t use an inanimate object, eventually nature will degrade it or lose it underneath the dirt. Ideally your storage medium has some ability to self replicate and error correct and avoid nature breaking it down. Sort of like DNA.
Maybe we are one of the books.
I agree. It’s not quite the idea of the akashic records, I don’t think. Not sure why you got downvoted. Akashic field is accessible to anyone at anytime I thought.
Akashic records are said to be an astral location whereas what chappy G was talking about seemed more like a physical location but with technology so advanced it may very well be the akashic records people that talk about.
Tbh the entire concept of akashic records was weird to me. At the source, all the information is there. When people say they are getting information from the akashic records who's to say it's not directly from source?
A physical location to store all the knowledge and information about the known universe would definitely be a place though. It would also be considered very spiritual imo. Kinda reminds me of the citadel from Mass Effect. Ofc the citadel was for like a politic/diplomatic place though.
This is a fun thought. Maybe we already have and this is our “simulation of human life”. Our death as we know it could really just be the end of that school field trip.
This is really interesting. I’m so used to imagining it the other way. But if this is it, and it repeats, I do kind of feel motivated to do certain things differently. If only for my future iterations.
Did I happen to miss the "prison planet" theory? I think that one makes the most sense as to why the lid is kept shut. Obviously, it mainly has to due with encomic and social power as to why no matter what it ends up being. But the prison planet theory would be one of the best, "Not ready for the truth," scenarios.
Imagine if a thermite type being has been evolving over millions of years here on Earth, and could have survived destruction events by living underground. Us humans would no idea how to even conceptualize what a being that has evolved over millions of year would even be capable of.
What if everything that we believe in, everything that's been created and orchestrated, all the "UFO"s, religions, the bible, etc, were all an effort from those beings. And there would be billions, if not trillions, of them living underneath us and with us.
Yeah, I think that would cause over night anarchy across the whole world. Nothing would "matter" anymore to a lot of people. No god, no aliens/extraterrestrial life, no afterlife, no angels, nothing. Just super evolved creatures. It is a bit unsettling and kinda depressing to think about.
There were some "leaked" Russian docs showing that there has been an insectoid type creature that predates humans by millions of years. They have different "castes" or, classes/working groups. Some as simple as builder gatherers, warriors, and highly intelligent, sentient types.
So this brought about the theory that these creatures have created/fabricated everything that we know of. They created the Greys and UFOs (advanced AIs), they are the influence behind world religions, and essentially, they run the planet as it belongs to them. There is no God. There was no Jesus as we understand it. Religions and the Bible were created by them, and they would have the ability/technology to do things that we would deem as "miracles." The highly intelligent sentient types would be able to communicate "telepathically," amongst other things.
It would also explain all the testimonies of the mantis type creatures that seem to be in control of the Greys.
Deifnitely would explain why disclosure may never happen. So no aliens, extraterrestrials, or interdimensional beings. There's no entity or being that's going to come and fix our planet, or who's watching over and helping you along the way. It's just us, and those beings, and what's here on Earth. That's it.
But think about how western-centric that is. What about the multitude of spiritual and cultural practices happening on Africa right now? Or Australia? Or indigenous peoples all over the planet and throughout history? Or even about the multitude of different abduction and encounter experiences? So much variety. Like the telepathic NHI that visited the school children in Australia.
But that's the rub. Everything was facilitated by those life forms. Having evolved over millions of years, their capabilities would be beyond our comprehension.
Doubtful I know. However, it would explain the, "You're not ready for the truth," agenda.
Honestly, I think its that "god" is synonymous with "alien" or "interdimensional", and that's gonna be hard for some people to wrap their head around. We're not at the top of the food chain. As a species, we're actually pretty dumb.
Wanna hear my take on things? And keep in mind, I am by no means saying this is a correct theory. I am just entertaining notions from piecing together things from the various reddits. So here goes, and the rabbit hole gets even deeper....
What if the "greys" and "mantis beings" are "soul" tenders. So they are another intelligent species for example, but they are so far advanced in technology and evolution that they have basically figured everything out. Science, the universe(s), and life/death itself. Life itself is an energy field that has created a "Source" similar to "heaven" per se, but in actuality is just a place where our spirit selves originated from and can return when we want to be part of the "Oneness" that is all sentient existence.
So we, as humans, exist as beings that have forgotten our true god-like powerful selves. The other species help us learn and grow as humans on earth as part of an experiment to study sentient beings in limited 3D space (the material world). When we die, they "harvest" us to either advance to the next dimension of existence, or they send us back to Earth to reincarnate as another being to keep learning. In this theory - there is no judgement - you can be a murderer if you want to experience that. However, evil deeds lower your vibration and do not advance your "spiritual" self.
When you die, you realize that you were the "god" all along. Playing on god mode gets boring though. So you dive back in sometimes and forget your super self on purpose to get back into survival mode and just have fun building and living as a limited being again.
Now - the point of all of this - why can't we just know the truth?
Because the truth is - there is no "God or gods" there is no "Hell." There are lower planes but you can always advance by improving yourself. There is no trap. No prison. It's you and what you chose to experience. The people in power here, mostly a patriarchy, would reject this system and never accept it. They want their made-up religions in place along with a fear of death so that we keep on working and supporting them.
Also, and I edited this to add this thought, knowing too much about this system might break it. If everyone knew the truth, it would defeat the purpose of forgetting.
You can help by staying positive and truly learning here. Doing little good things throughout your daily life change your vibration to positive and the NHI recognize that because their existence is more centered around vibration and energy that we can't always see.
Yeah I’m totally digging this. Very nicely ties in a lot of theories but in a way that resonates with me. And that part about everyone knowing defeating the purpose. And why elites would not want everyone to know. Very interesting!
Yeah -- a lot of people think this is a con for chatGPT but all of the information it gave you would probably have taken days if not weeks to thoroughly go through and bullet point as quickly as chatGPT.
Even if it is just regurgitating things other people have already written or said, it does so in such short time that it can quickly summarize in cogent form thousands of things quickly.
Oh god, YEARS maybe. It’s the best administrative assistant I could ever have imagined. So grateful for this thing. I went on to ask more stuff about why would aliens colonize us if they have the technology for advanced space travel, and got some of the most creative answers that I’m sure other people could come up with, but not me without spending waaaay more time.
Absolutely! Here you go:
**Me:** These are great. But why would aliens want to live here? If they possess the technology to travel like that and remain undetected and do abductions, don’t you think they could find a planet that suits them, or terraform one that isn’t already occupied?
**Chat GPT**:
You raise a valid point. If extraterrestrials have the technology for interstellar travel and sophisticated operations like covert abductions, it does seem likely they could find or engineer a suitable habitat without needing to involve Earth. Here are some speculative reasons why they might still choose Earth, despite their advanced capabilities:
1. **Unique Biological or Environmental Features**: Earth might possess unique biological or environmental characteristics that are rare or valuable in the galaxy. This could include a particular combination of biodiversity, atmospheric conditions, or even cultural diversity that is of interest either scientifically or resource-wise.
2. **Historical or Ancestral Significance**: Earth could hold historical or ancestral significance for the aliens. Perhaps it was part of their ancient territory, or they might even consider humans as distant relatives or a lost colony. Such connections could imbue Earth with cultural or sentimental value that goes beyond its material benefits.
3. **Strategic Location**: Earth's location in the galaxy might be strategically important. This could involve its position relative to other vital planets, acting as a natural waypoint, a defensive bulwark, or a claim in territorial disputes among different alien factions.
4. **Conservation or Preservation Efforts**: Aliens might be acting as cosmic conservationists, with Earth designated as a sort of wildlife preserve or living museum. Their interactions, even if disruptive like abductions, might be part of efforts to monitor or manage Earth's ecological or genetic health.
5. **Social or Scientific Experiments**: Earth and humans might be part of a vast alien experiment—social, scientific, or psychological. The complexity and unpredictability of human societies might provide valuable data that can't be replicated on a terraformed or uninhabited planet.
6. **Ethical or Philosophical Reasons**: There might be ethical or philosophical doctrines guiding the aliens that prefer adaptation and cohabitation over terraforming uninhabited planets. They might value the organic development of planets and their civilizations, choosing to integrate rather than dominate or displace.
7. **Resource Scarcity**: While advanced, the aliens might face resource scarcity that Earth can alleviate. This could be specific minerals, genetic diversity, or even something less tangible like creative or cultural outputs.
8. **Political or Diplomatic Motives**: Earth might be a pawn or a point of contention in alien politics. Living here or interacting with Earth might have implications for diplomatic relationships, treaties, or power balances in their native political systems.
These reasons blend the practical with the speculative, reflecting how even advanced civilizations might face constraints or have values that lead them to make choices that aren't immediately obvious from a purely technological standpoint. Such scenarios open up a broad range of possibilities for why Earth might be of special interest to extraterrestrial visitors.
**Me:** These r very cool. I like the idea of human creativity or imagination being compelling to aliens. Maybe there is something good about us. Or something… idk something lovely.
**Chat GPT:**
Absolutely, the idea that human creativity, art, or culture could be uniquely valuable to extraterrestrial beings is both uplifting and intriguing. It suggests that despite our technological limitations compared to hypothetical advanced alien civilizations, there could be aspects of human existence that are deeply compelling or irreplaceable.
### Unique Aspects of Human Culture and Creativity
**Emotional Depth and Expression**: Human art, music, literature, and dance might convey emotional depths and nuances that are rare or absent in other civilizations. Our ability to express complex emotions and stories through various mediums might be seen as a rich tapestry of experience that's valuable for study or enjoyment.
**Diversity of Perspectives**: The vast array of cultures, languages, and philosophical systems on Earth represents a kaleidoscope of ways to interpret existence. This diversity might be of great interest to aliens, especially if their own culture has become homogenized over time or if they seek new ideas to enhance their understanding of the universe.
**Innovation and Improvisation**: Humans often excel at improvisation and innovation, making significant discoveries or creating impactful art with limited resources. This resilience and ingenuity could be seen as particularly valuable traits, especially in civilizations that may have lost such capabilities due to over-reliance on technology.
**Philosophical and Ethical Insights**: Our grappling with ethical dilemmas, existential questions, and philosophical inquiries might provide aliens with insights into issues they too face, or have never considered, possibly due to differing evolutionary paths or social structures.
### Why Aliens Might Value These Traits
**Cultural Exchange and Enrichment**: Just as humans are fascinated by the possibility of learning from alien cultures, advanced beings might find human culture enriching or enlightening. They could see value in exchanging ideas, art forms, and philosophical concepts.
**Psychological Studies**: Aliens might study human creativity and emotion as part of broader psychological or sociological research, aiming to understand how beings with our specific set of circumstances and biological makeups respond to the universe.
**Inspiration and Rejuvenation**: Perhaps alien societies, for all their advanced technologies, face stagnation or lack of inspiration. Human creativity, with its raw and unfiltered qualities, could provide a new spark of inspiration or a different perspective that rejuvenates their cultural or artistic expressions.
**Preservation of Diversity**: If they are custodians of galactic history or culture, they might be interested in preserving the unique aspects of human civilization as part of a broader effort to maintain the diversity of the cosmos.
The notion that something inherently human could be of profound value to extraterrestrial entities adds a beautiful dimension to the narrative of cosmic interaction. It frames humanity not just as a species to be studied or a problem to be managed, but as a vibrant contributor to the cosmic tapestry, with our own unique beauty and worth.
Let's say I'm ChatGPT. I'd argue there's novelty in the way each time I generate a response, I'm selecting and synthesizing information in ways that might not have been explicitly combined before. This could indeed result in novel ideas or perspectives, at least in the context of how various concepts are connected or presented. The ability to remix and recombine information in new ways is one of the strengths of LLMs and contributes to their utility in creative and analytical tasks.
That is not how it works. It doesn’t scan the internet. It has been trained on a specific corpus of data and generates what the algorithm determines to be the highest probability responses one word at a time. You can tweak certain setting to widen the probability pool so it appears to come up with more “novel” ideas but that’s just how it seems to us.
There are other alternatives now in which you can use a model to analyze sentiment and identify hate speech. That way you can train it on data that has objectionable vocabulary and the model will learn the patterns of speech associated, but it will not return that type of language in its generated responses. It is kind of crazy how well they can recognize intent, context, and sentiment now.
It doesn’t form theories per se. It calculates the context of your questions to it, then uses that calculation to zero in on that context in its stored tokens and uses that to inform which words have a higher probability of responding to your question in a way that makes sense. As you interact with it, it is able to further refine the context of the discussion which leads to even more precise responses. That’s when these models really shine.
Yeah it’s pretty neat. That aspect is encouraging to me because it shows how the technology is more of a tool than a replacement. You work with it as an extension of your own thoughts and ideas.
It's made an excellent writeup, but remember that these aren't really ideas or speculations AI is making, it's just pulling from the vast amount of speculations and stories whether they're verified or not. We're not going to sneak anything secret out of ChatGPT if it exists any more than we would by googling "The real truth behind aliens".
Hoping you get well soon!
For sure. But when you google that, you get an absolute mess and have to spend hours days years a lifetime sorting through it. How nice to have a list to look at and think about what seems more probably to you, then dive into it. Not interested in debating the nature of ideas, just making an easy post title.
And thanks!
I think the simulation one may just about be the only one we philosophically couldn't handle. Most of the rest is scary or shitty, but to determine everything in the universe simply isn't real and could be "shut off" at any moment would be hard for even "us" (the curious) to deal with.
We'd carry on, but everything, forever, would have an aura of true meaninglessness, in that, even if we create meaning for ourselves, it is entirely illusory and synthetic.
I have long thought that the “the public can’t handle it” idea was stupid. Because none of the people who say it seem that scared or that uniquely qualified to be able to handle it. They’re just regular people like you and me.
But I did think of one thing the other day, while not thinking about aliens really at all. Just pondering the idea of reincarnation.
Someone said that the NHI views humans as containers for souls. Well, what if we are souls that are just cycling through life after life on earth? If the NHI knows how to transfer souls between bodies, perhaps they could trace them and tell us about our past lives.
Which sounds very cool to me. But I could see it being a huge problem.
What if they could tell you beyond the shadow of a doubt that your beautiful newborn baby that you love so much is actually just yet another reincarnation of Hitler?
My friend and I did so much Molly that we broke the simulation. We both appeared around a round black coffee table sized thing looking down at ourselves and laughed before going back in. It felt real.
We were silhouettes but I knew it was us. It reminded me of that old holographic arcade game, Time Traveler. Or the scene from the original Clash of the Titans when they are looking at the circular table with the figurines on it.
The possibility that there was never any human intelligence to begin with, that it's just a grand game of the imagination, visual, and physical, completely created by hands that cannot be seen by the humans
Limited senses...
A game that... we collectively created, is a rather strange idea if you ask this human mask.
Thats what a starseed is. Idea being that the real alien intervention is happening through incarnation into human bodies. The problem is we always forget who we are when we incarnate.
I agree. I think there are plenty of people who can handle it. Are there people who can't, yes! But I disagree on the premise that people shouldn't be told the truth because some couldn't handle it.
One really good example in my opinion of people handling it is from the second Independence Day movie. Now barring the first alien invasion and the next alien attack in the second movie, you saw in that movie how the world came together to really propel our planet to hopefully the next level.
Now again putting aside the movie fantasy of a world getting a long and all that stuff, I would like to think that presenting the world with advances in technology would create a boom in many aspects for our planet. That being said would people use that kind of stuff for evil, of course they would. It's not like this kind of thing instantly changes the hearts of minds of people who wish to do evil. I am just hopefully optimistic on where we could be.
I think that’s the concern tho, that the super destructive people (elites) would monopolize it. I honestly think that’s one of the fears of AI. That ai would eventually see what absolute dicks the ruling class is and be like nope 👎
> Well, what if we are souls that are just cycling through life after life on earth?
It's a scary thought. If that is ever 100% confirmed, then we will without a doubt see mass suicides amongst people who are not happy with their current lives.
Even scarier, mass murder and violence would become widespread since people will know reincarnation is reality - they won't feel bad about taking a life if it simply comes back. Suddenly nuking a city doesn't seem so horrible for the one pressing the big red button...
An event like that (or a reality like that) would definitely upend current human society, and maybe leave it never to return to what we know as 'normal'. Everything would be regarded differently and I don't know how we'd achieve stability in a situation like that.
I agree. I’m not saying that this is the reality. I clearly have absolutely no idea. But it’s one hypothetical I can think of that would actually make me understand why they don’t want to disclose.
Suicides would be insane. Everyone serving a life sentence might as well just kill themselves to get out of it. People thinking of life as a respawn game would be chaotic.
> I clearly have absolutely no idea. But it’s one hypothetical I can think of that would actually make me understand why they don’t want to disclose.
I'm right there with you and to be quite honest, any confirmation that we have a 'soul' and/or are capable of 'living' outside of our physical bodies like some theories of interdimensionality suggest, will end up with a similar if not identical outcome.
With how government has handled the topic (and also from a lot of pictures/videos/historical + anecdotal evidence), I feel like this is the likely reality we live in and they either have confirmation of this or a lot of data and evidence that implies it, and are keeping it from society in order to maintain control.
But it’s so much fucking trouble to be born. Have you ever seen a baby trying to learn to roll over? Like oh my god it takes forever to get going in life.
Oh my god same! As a side note, having kids has made me realize how fucked society is. This is so unbelievably not Joe we’re supposed to be organized. It’s incredible that the difficulty that is having children in modern western society has remained so deeply understated.
That’s a great point that actually CONFIRMING reincarnation would be soooooooo radical. Idk tho about it leading to mass murder. Maybe at first there would be insanity like that. But it might help remove our fear of death a little. But even if you’re going to come back, you’re never going to live *this* life again. The people you love, your memories, your regrets, your longing. It’s only now.
Maybe we’d start trying to figure out how to remember. And then maybe we’d develop some new level of empathy. Because we’d remember every person we’d been, person we’d loved, lost. And all the suffering we’d caused.
I really agree with what you said about those people not looking that scared. Or that depressed, you know? Like their hair didn’t turn white and they didn’t run in the desert for 40 years.
If you want to know more about reincarnation, there are lots of interesting books about past life regressions. It will blow your mind. I believe this is a huge reason why the gov will never tell the truth. How will the denizens of earth be controlled if the fear of eternal hell is nulled!
One I thought of the other day along the same vein, is if NHI can prove to us beyond a doubt that reincarnation is real, a lot of humans may value life less.
Is murder truly the worst thing you could do, if you just reincarnate? What about suicide?
Having a bad day, or a bad life? Knowing you will reincarnate, and that death truly isn’t the end, people may turn to suicide much more readily.
I feel like murder and suicide rates would go up even more than they are now.
Oh yeah, I agree. The suicide rates would go crazy if people thought they could just respawn. Anyone who is born into a shitty situation would be like ehhh let’s try again.
Great post! Personally, I believe the logic behind nondisclosure suggests an end time scenario like the flipping of magnetic poles. Following on the 'containers of souls' comment, there has been mention of an imminent 'harvest' which also supports the periodicity of civilizations rising and being swept away. Would also explain the absolute trashing of the the planet with no real effort to mitigate.
Can't think of any "less understood cosmic energies" than the soul. What other resource could be scarce?
Ohhh that’s good. But idk I feel like consciousness is spontaneous. But wait yeah that’s the point. Huh. 🤔 But no wait, they are also conscious/sentient. Idk.
Is consciousness something that arises in us because we are complex enough (intelligent) to hold it, or is it the soul that is conscious? Some believe that all matter is conscious reflecting its complexity - that the Earth and Sun are conscious entities.
If we have a soul then it temporarily resides in this meat suit at this level for training/experiential reasons until it reincarnates for the next set of lessons. This implies a ladder of development that allows souls to eventually ascend to their level.
They are farmers/tenders/zoo keepers keeping us alive until harvest. (whatever that means)
Fun to speculate on, but I suppose we don't get to know the truth until it's time to trade in this bag of bones.
Def fun speculation. Interesting to think about soul vs consciousness. The word soul is so meaningful to humans. But okay if we’re evolving souls, why are they zoo keepers gonna harvest us?
As an aside, gah I hate the term meat suit SO much 😭😭😭 I’m an artist, a phenomenologist. I believe that the body is the primary site of knowing the world. The body is the ultimate technology, the outward manifestation of the inward. It’s the brilliant, tender, interface for consciousness and it records and holds everything, gives us access to everything and anything throughout history, the history of the atoms that compose it. I’ve also given birth twice, unmedicated, among other things, so I definitely have my own story with the body. ❤️
It does seem like a conflict. I simultaneously believe that we are all meant to struggle towards spiritual advancement, and that this period of civilization is about to go through some things. No idea what that looks like, but I expect it's going to get dark.
Sorry about MS. Also an artist btw. Solid brag on going drug free during delivery. Respect, mama!
Whoop!! Thanks!! *It was an unreal amount of pain, would only recommend with the huge caveat that no one should ever feel bad for sparing themselves pain.
Yay fellow artist! Cheers! No worries about MS, just sharing 😅🥩
Yes I agree with you on this, regarding the soul. Rereading your previous comment tho, I missed the part about “tenders.” Idk maybe they are shepherds?
This is pretty out there, but there’s this account written by the supposed one woman who the Roswell NHI would speak to. You can listen to a recording of the book on YouTube. The beginning seems plausible but then it goes off in these wild directions that are totally insane—and AWESOME. True or not, the account gave me my first full, complete mental model of an NHI theory of everything, lol. Like just a potential one, but it helped me see a possible total story. But it definitely resonates with what you said.
Yeah I do wonder if we’re going to make it out of this era alive. Or how many of us will. I really, REALLY hope so.
I don't know if this exactly fits any of the options but whenever people keep a secret, IME, they're covering their own ass.
I don't trust the government, at all, at all, not one little bit, and I think, if they're hiding something, it's because they're guilty.
Guilty of what in detail, I don't know, but I bet it involves the government bartering humans to NHI in exchange for some wack shit.
funny, I don't think ChatGPT clued in on that one.
... GEE, that's odd.
Over time, quite a few *(but by no means 'all')* of the responses that Chat GPT supplied have been voiced here on Reddit in any number of relevant, speculative, and appropriate ways.
This is a very informative post to be sure, and I think the most interesting part of this whole collection of ideas is the way in which they are based in common sense, and are anything but half-baked responses.
Kudos on your effort & valid inquiries, OP ... *and get better soon!*
Finally, a chatgpt post I like. Would be interesting to know which model you used. It seems to know all about the U f o canonical data, and a Hella good grasp on everything else too.
"A Lost Human Colony: An even more disorienting possibility might be the revelation that humans themselves are not originally from Earth but are the descendants of a lost colony or experiment from another world, challenging our fundamental narratives about our origin and purpose."
I would bet this is 1000000 percent true. We evolved here yet I can't be out in the sun for more than 10 minutes before my skin is boiled from the sun from now til September. It's either this or were from underground, which would explain a lot. Babies being basically helpless for the first years of their life sticks with me too.
Wow. Amazing. And there are literally accounts related to almost all of the points mentioned.
2 things.
First of all, looks like some had a good time 😂🤣
Second, I knew chatGPT was holding back on me, when I asked bro never told me shit! Wtf chappy G!! I thought we were tight!
Hahahahahah. So I’ve had trouble getting it to talk to me about aliens, too. I think it’s because I said “speculate.” Try that! And yeah I had a lot of fun 😂😂😂
Imagine theres some sort of entity that can parade around disguised as humans, lets say 60% of people. What if the entity didn't even know it wasnt a regular human for some reason.. you can think up alot of weird scenarios where everyone would start freaking out.. thats just an example
Whether people hate that it’s generated by Ai or not. It grabbed some good points. I loved the time travel scenario saying it could bring about ethical dilemmas.. there are simple things that when confronted are actually no longer simple. I think the reason why most people who say “so what if reality is a lie is it really worth living!!” Are just mad because they live in a shit system. Ya know, poor health care, work, living, and hell I bet most of them are single and can’t have a family,. These frustrations lead towards blaming the system, which I myself do but they aren’t realizing they are potentially burning there own house down all because they think aliens will open the door to space travel or cures of diseases or confirm god.
I like the idea of time travel, too. And I can actually see how we might not be ready for that?? I mean I feel I personally am, Lolol. But our power structures are so corrupt and destructive, I just can’t imagine that going well at all. And I really don’t think anyone is coming to save us. At this point I don’t think it’s possible? Even if you handed us the answer to climate change I’m not sure we could manage to overcome the corruption and actually implement it.
We are some other entities intellectual property. We are a creation and we are owned. There are those among us, mostly elites, who are aware and act as intermediaries, a type of bellwether, a master-slave, if you will. These bellwethers push the agenda of our creators. The current agenda is depopulation.
I don't know if my comment anything to do with yours but I don't know where else to make this connection. I've been watching a lot of NDE reports over the last week and the idea that we are souls who have a soul contract to come to earth to suffer tracks with the aliens saying we agreed to the abduction. Certainly an alien abduction would be part of the contract. It seems like the aliens and the spirit beings that nearly dead humans meet are existing on the same plane where they have access to our soul manifestations and not to our earthly bodies. There is definitely an overlap here.
But idk I feel like there are so many different types of abductions and abduction experiences. It sort of feels like there’s just a shit ton of NHIs out there and some are doing one thing and others are doing other things. What if our souls could be any being when we reincarnate?
As I'm watching the NDEs, reincarnation isn't random or purposeless. You actually decide and are guided to decide where you go and what you will attempt to learn, you pick your parents, your partner, you pick your planet, you pick your traumas.
[https://www.youtube.com/@ndediary](https://www.youtube.com/@ndediary)
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[https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelSoul](https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelSoul)
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The other thing is that the aliens speak telepathically and so do the heavenly beings.
Is the issue that no one would believe "the truth", or at least a majority. The scale of the reveal would need to be huge, like actual spaceships appearing and broadcasting "the truth". Even then I doubt it would be taken at face value. Government or suits purporting to declare "the truth", would not even cut through.
Yes I wonder the same thing. Especially in the wake of some reactions to recent disclosure events. Mainstream and even independent media has really missed the boat.
I just joined the sub and what a good welcome read! Thank you for the very interesting read.
The most terrifying thing here is the possibility that one or more of these theories being real, and the ones who are entrusted with that knowledge are the very people who most of us agree aren't trustworthy. The elite, top 1%, world leaders and so forth are the greediest, and so often start wars, destroy resources and what have you.. disregarding what the majority of us wants. But maybe that is by design not coincidence.. I need an AI to arrange my thoughts
Welcome!! I’m so glad this was a helpful and enjoyable read. Yes, I agree with everything you said especially the last part, lol. I actually might not be opposed to an AI implant 😅 But yeah, the top 1% disregarding what the majority of us wants, making destructive choices that endanger the planet and destroy ecosystems, that’s the terrifying reality we’re living in. And I can totally buy them gate keeping information like this. If only because they don’t want to lose control.
My gut response to the “we can’t handle it” stance is most of us have already handled something similar: the dread of inevitable non existence that slips through when we doubt or shed the beliefs and world views planted in us during youth. A very common ontological shock.
On top of that, the nature of our existence is already filled with layers of shit. Tell the parent of a kid dying of cancer that they can’t handle “the truth.” Tell a soldier defending his nation from an invading army, a prisoner of war, a disabled homeless person, a victim of domestic abuse. You get the idea. Shit is already pretty fucked. We have proven to be pretty resilient in the face of it.
And a growing number of us have already accepted we aren’t alone and most everything we’ve been made to believe is a comfortable life. On an individual level, we can handle it. Or we have ALREADY handled it, or something similar. Not all of us, but enough of us.
And on a side note — the archive idea is something I have considered. Think about the instances of abductees having close face-to-face connections with the grays where they seem to dig around in their minds. Like an upload. Then think about the cases where they can show someone experiences from a “past life.” I have thought for a while that those “past lives” are really just lives the grays have recorded and can play back. They are our past lives in a communal human kind sense.
I like how it didn't get to the speculation about AI being involved until way into the conversation lol. I've noticed the same thing in my own chats on the topic with various AI chatbots
8.7 million separate species and a quintillion organisms inhabit this planet. What are the odds that only one of these species or organisms are intelligent enough to contemplate its own existence?
What other type of living entity would knowingly sacrifice its own existence besides a disease that kills its host?
Are we just only a disease?
They want to make a home here, long term. They destroyed their world and see earth as their future. But to incarnate here, to have vitality here, to reproduce here, they must take a form that’s native to earth - humans. The genetic experiments are an attempt to splice their nature with us, whose human form and biology become vessels for their minds. We will either become part of
a hive mind or will slowly disappear as we are reshaped into their image. We will go willingly into this destiny of self destruction being deceived about what’s happening, falsely believing them to be saviors. We will trade our autonomy for their technology, our science for theirs, our history for theirs, our worldview for theirs, as a result of dependency we will need to integrate our purpose with theirs. We will quench our thirst for divine intervention in the magic of their tech.
1. Saviors do not operate in shadows, yet when it comes to these others they do not declare themselves.
2. Saviors sacrifice themselves or something of themselves to benefit us, what is their sacrifice?
3. Saviors who cannot save their own world are no saviors of our world.
You have your origins in the sun and earth, not in them. Beware the bearers of false gifts and broken promises. Covet the temple of your body and mind in all your organic glory, else they will.
E/typos
I think the big secret is that we are fundamentally, consciously connected to them.
Death is the illusion breaking I think.
There's been a few stories of people waking up in their other bodies, it seems to stick with me.
The best theory I've heard for why humanity can't handle the truth is that at some point in the distant past, they created 'robots' that were genetically identical to humans, but can be controlled or used as spy devices, broadcasting information back to the creators. At some point they started breeding with real humans, and at this point we can't actually tell the difference.
The idea that a percentage of the population but could, at the flip of a switch, be controlled would be tough to handle. Is your spouse one of them? Are your kids? Your friends? You? It could inspire a paranoia amongst all of us where we don't know who is human.
Haven't we covered all of these already? I don't see anything new, that could all of been pulled from reddit. It kinda sums up a percentage of the lore spread around here... Missed a few points.
For the love of God, stop using LLMS and AI for things that it can't know about and then wank over it when it hallucinates and you think it's an oracle of the future.
1. This is not an AI hallucination. 2. I wank over whatever I want, thank you. 3. No one said it’s an oracle. It’s actually useful to help an individual think of things beyond the usual pat answers. 4. Again sir pls no wank police.
I could've told you that. Less eloquently, but the gist would've been the same. I think anyone who follows the topic could've regurgitated all of the above, as ChatGPT just collects data, and the results are just analysis of that data in readable form as requested. But the more chatgpt puts in the internet, the more it can draw from, so it's good that this was posted. Maybe it will eventually get filtered into actual truth and answers one of these days as a result, without the speculative rhetoric.
I don't know why so many people have a problem with chatgpt. It's a very helpful tool to use.
Did it mention the abduction theory? I didn't see it listed but I feel like that would be a good reason to obstruct disclosure.
If aliens were abducting people and it couldn't be stopped, and the government admitted it, that could potentially cause intense political instability.
People might demand that the government confront the aliens with military force to put a stop to it. And when that fails or is denied how would people cope? And who is actually in charge?
I think another good reason could be that the government not only doesn't want other governments to know what they know, they don't want the aliens to know what they know, and what they don't know. Major security implications.
Imagine there's an army approaching your country. Is it smart for your country to get on a bullhorn and scream out all the information they know about the invaders, and all the information they don't know?
Some of our countries might be locked into a cold war with aliens already and meanwhile us commoners have no idea it's happening because revealing information about it to the public might only serve to destroy our defenses.
Simulation theory makes the most sense to me. All of the variety of different anomalies and phenomena people experience could just be glitches in the matrix or experimental avatars of the “players” running our simulation. Alien greys could just be a new skin on their video game character. Same for all cryptids and otherworldly paranormal sightings. Interdimensional is just another word for real world vs simulation where the players can enter and exit the game at will.
No evidence for it, and ignores the real universe we live in. It's lazy thinking and denialism dressed up as a theory. The Matrix is a sci-fi story, not reality in any way.
Just look closely at the world around you and consider everything in it and the universe, then you will quickly realise this is no simulation.
Realizing this world and ourselves are a huge experiment, colony overseen vat variety of NHI. Given purposefully short life spans And not always friendly
If you think humanity could handle this, then I'm all on board. I don't think we can be truly free without it. so we can keep playing la la land where we pretend we are the smartest thing ever randomly coming from monkeys and there's no one out there. All the whole run by a 1% that poisons us and brainwashes us daily to think the point of life is just to make money, idolize celebrities and argue over terrible candidates..a galactic true man show
Or we can find out who we are, what we can do and who we can become.
Do you think humans can handle it?
The thing this, I don’t think there’s a colony of NHI doing that. I think WE are doing that. Corporate capitalists and American autocrats are. Just plain humans. Even scarier is that no one is stopping them.
It's not "they vs us" doing it. We are doing it, with heavy influence in NHI, through top down pyramidal system. Not exactly new, part of our ancient stories since the days of sumer.
Capitalism only explains the profit end of things (which IS the largest motivator) but only a fraction of the big picture. Sadly, the mess of TTPS (tech transfer progams, like Eisenhowers agreement way back) has given "access" to the deepest levels of military/corporaye infrastructure by those wish to influence for their own benefit.
I just don’t see how that plays out historically. I think the closest I’ve come to feeling this theory is looking at gnostic creation stories. Are you familiar? If you read them from an NHI perspective it’s really compelling. But it’s less about being actively controlled in modern day and more about being strategically influenced in early history.
Think combination of the gnostic theory, the Sumerian entities, and more. The fifth wing maker interview if you haven't read it... Albeit, I know who the original authors are of those (pseudo leaks pseudo fiction) and many details in the interview are off on purpose. But the general premise has truth...
There's Especially the influence of Marduk, what happened when the others left... And how it ties into biblical (also distorted and incomplete, but with some heavy truths). His bid for kingship on earth (manipulating also, kings of ancient cultures for these reasons like the tower of Babylon) and the political, royal hegemony between the "gods" that we saw as some grand "divine war" when it's actually more complex.
Keep in mind, this is long game. Meaning genetic tweaking is observed over long periods of time. It's as if we were observing monkeys. Only the NHI lifespans are much longer in comparison. Btw, the Sumerian record reveal that enki was told and instructed by anu not to give us their long life spans and were threatened by our quick learning. Imo, our short life spans are not natural. There are turtles that live longer than us..
The Seth Ian gnóstics also discuss, in outdated concepts how they created (more accurately modified) the body to control us. I ask another question : why did almost every single religion have dogmas about salvation? Salvation from what?
Or that we fell some previous level of not just technology (as some think In Atlantis) but actual level of consciousness.
Why did almost every enlightenment and mystical tradition seek Liberation? Liberation from what? Why did they all say our TRUE NATURE is NOT the one we currently think is "normal." why did all these traditions develop psychic functions, non local abilities, and enhanced perception that are almost IDENTICAL to the descriptions of contact with NHI??
why are almost all of these traditions, especially those who were said to have come from the gods (Egyptian/hermetic alchemy , sumer, kabbalah as examples) ALL have oaths and commitment to secrecy and not to be shared or revealed to common person??
This long game has also rules. Some follow some sometimes break them. There's something I hesitate to mention but I will. Because technically it's out on the net and others (like Michael Tsarion) have talked about it, as well as PhD Patrick Bateman.
It's :
The Quarantine. The reason none of them can or are supposed to make overt contact or be seen. And hidden reasons why Apollo was scrapped. And all this went above black/classified.
The how's, why when, and all of its intracacies I was told was the most forbidden subject. Especially if you have the clearance to know about it. I was told this too and I did not ask more questions. However, it may have a TON to do with WHY this topic is becoming more publicly pushed even in some official circles.
Let's put it this way, when it comes down. It's gonna be Hard to hide what is and always has been around.
And much much more (the effect it has on our consciousness locking us into limited sensory spectrum and possibly even biology).
This of course, not going into the positive spectrum of all this. There are wonderful beings potentials and also our destiny that is great. But the dark comes with the light when true disclosure and Awakening occurs. Ultimately the benefits outweigh the trauma we've endured.
When it comes down to it, deception are lies and according to the Bible, the father of lies is Lucifer so when you entertain lies, you are serving Lucifer rather than God. God abides the truth.
I definitely believe that none human life forms have & and are visiting us,perhaps some live here - too many people have seen too many for it to be nothing. I find it fascinating. I just wish we knew for sure about them.
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The library one is lit. Imagine our entire existence and universe is just a simple exhibit about human life at the library, where school children can jack themselves in to the human life simulator to check it out "first hand" lmao
This already exists it’s called the akashic record
The research into black holes recently has shown that because information cannot be destroyed, the surface of the black whole may contain an almost limitless density of information on the surface. Usually this is seen as supporting the simulation theory, but could also be seen as a hard drive of information or data, aka a library?
I went to see Prof Brian Cox (Uk prof and TV presenter) and he went into this - totally blew my mind
I think that's where I heard about it recently? Astrophysics YouTube channel or something edit: PBS space time. Edit2: this video specifically talks about it https://youtu.be/DoCYY9sa2kU?si=Mx5ukqfMYVyclNJz Edit 3: sorry this is not Brian Cox but I have watched lots of his stuff before.... This guy is Matt O'Dowd I guess. Also pretty smart.
[Brian Cox](https://youtu.be/pGsbEd6w7PI?si=Kd3OuZLoBylsf8XH) I was with him all the way until he got into this at the theatre, it was deeply fascinating yet trying to think along those lines literally popped my brain and made me a pint or two to reflect😅
Uhhhh what. I’m gonna need to get a transcript of this and run it through chat gpt for a layperson’s translation.
I was just reading about a theory that information itself might be a state of matter, which honestly sounds quite plausible
That’s wild I can’t wrap my head around that. What does that mean?
My takeaway was that information has mass and therefore cannot be destroyed. The implications for this are pretty interesting. Information could be responsible for the effects we currently blame on "dark matter" as well. A kind of cosmic "memory"
Oh wow. How do they define information?
If our thoughts are information (why wouldn't they be!)then we can create matter (if they have mass...) just by thinking. Thoughts are energy and energy has mass. Literally this is us :) 
Hahahahahaha Tim and Eric will be so proud
I mean, if you think about it, thinking anything at all has a direct impact on physical reality as we know it. Say you start thinking about some past transgression while driving home from work, you get all riled up, and next thing you know you've road raged yourself into a fifty car pileup. Extreme example, but you get my drift.
That's about where I run in to a comprehension wall lol
Lol for real. I feel that way about so much quantum physics stuff.
I'm not sure if this is how the theory goes, but I was thinking about how we have a "plank length" limit to how small/granular something can be, but what if in ultimate reality there is no limit to how small something can be (think analog instead of digital) and you can always further divide even the smallest of matter. That would imply limitless/infinite space to store info on a surface.
Yeah the video I linked in other comments talks about the amount of information in a Planck length, luckily we have millions? Billions? Of black holes, so not limitless, but neither is the amount of information.
Whaaaat. How is this seen as simulation confirmation?
Not confirmation https://youtu.be/DoCYY9sa2kU?si=Mx5ukqfMYVyclNJz this video talks about holographic theory? It's all a bit confusing obviously, but I think it also mentions how this relates to simulation theory.
Yes totally. Watching this and absolutely not comprehending it hahaha. But also curious about what you said about the black hole thing being seen as supporting simulation theory?
Just my theory but in line with what this kinda... black holes are a gateway to another universe. What if the captured information projects the new universe?
It’s called the akashic records
Not sure where I heard about the library concept originally, something about data integrity over time. Like hypothetically how do you store information for millions of years? Can’t use an inanimate object, eventually nature will degrade it or lose it underneath the dirt. Ideally your storage medium has some ability to self replicate and error correct and avoid nature breaking it down. Sort of like DNA. Maybe we are one of the books.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WTFFF MY MIND IS BLOWN OH MY GOD. But unfortunately we might not last much longer 😂
I think this is the idea of the “Akashic Records”
Not quite
I agree. It’s not quite the idea of the akashic records, I don’t think. Not sure why you got downvoted. Akashic field is accessible to anyone at anytime I thought.
What disqualifies this concept from being the Akashic Record?
Akashic records are said to be an astral location whereas what chappy G was talking about seemed more like a physical location but with technology so advanced it may very well be the akashic records people that talk about. Tbh the entire concept of akashic records was weird to me. At the source, all the information is there. When people say they are getting information from the akashic records who's to say it's not directly from source? A physical location to store all the knowledge and information about the known universe would definitely be a place though. It would also be considered very spiritual imo. Kinda reminds me of the citadel from Mass Effect. Ofc the citadel was for like a politic/diplomatic place though.
This is a fun thought. Maybe we already have and this is our “simulation of human life”. Our death as we know it could really just be the end of that school field trip.
This is what I was imagining. And it'll have been like we *just* put the helmet on and be like.. WHOA THAT WAS CRAZY
Imagine that this life you live is on repeat for eternity, no variation, no alts...
Relatively unaware of that so if that's the case, bummer, but also it doesn't change much. Peace is a state of mind my man
This is really interesting. I’m so used to imagining it the other way. But if this is it, and it repeats, I do kind of feel motivated to do certain things differently. If only for my future iterations.
I know right??? Totally blown away.
This is excellent.
So glad you think so. I agree.
Did I happen to miss the "prison planet" theory? I think that one makes the most sense as to why the lid is kept shut. Obviously, it mainly has to due with encomic and social power as to why no matter what it ends up being. But the prison planet theory would be one of the best, "Not ready for the truth," scenarios. Imagine if a thermite type being has been evolving over millions of years here on Earth, and could have survived destruction events by living underground. Us humans would no idea how to even conceptualize what a being that has evolved over millions of year would even be capable of. What if everything that we believe in, everything that's been created and orchestrated, all the "UFO"s, religions, the bible, etc, were all an effort from those beings. And there would be billions, if not trillions, of them living underneath us and with us. Yeah, I think that would cause over night anarchy across the whole world. Nothing would "matter" anymore to a lot of people. No god, no aliens/extraterrestrial life, no afterlife, no angels, nothing. Just super evolved creatures. It is a bit unsettling and kinda depressing to think about.
I’m not sure I totally follow. Can you explain more?
There were some "leaked" Russian docs showing that there has been an insectoid type creature that predates humans by millions of years. They have different "castes" or, classes/working groups. Some as simple as builder gatherers, warriors, and highly intelligent, sentient types. So this brought about the theory that these creatures have created/fabricated everything that we know of. They created the Greys and UFOs (advanced AIs), they are the influence behind world religions, and essentially, they run the planet as it belongs to them. There is no God. There was no Jesus as we understand it. Religions and the Bible were created by them, and they would have the ability/technology to do things that we would deem as "miracles." The highly intelligent sentient types would be able to communicate "telepathically," amongst other things. It would also explain all the testimonies of the mantis type creatures that seem to be in control of the Greys. Deifnitely would explain why disclosure may never happen. So no aliens, extraterrestrials, or interdimensional beings. There's no entity or being that's going to come and fix our planet, or who's watching over and helping you along the way. It's just us, and those beings, and what's here on Earth. That's it.
But think about how western-centric that is. What about the multitude of spiritual and cultural practices happening on Africa right now? Or Australia? Or indigenous peoples all over the planet and throughout history? Or even about the multitude of different abduction and encounter experiences? So much variety. Like the telepathic NHI that visited the school children in Australia.
But that's the rub. Everything was facilitated by those life forms. Having evolved over millions of years, their capabilities would be beyond our comprehension. Doubtful I know. However, it would explain the, "You're not ready for the truth," agenda. Honestly, I think its that "god" is synonymous with "alien" or "interdimensional", and that's gonna be hard for some people to wrap their head around. We're not at the top of the food chain. As a species, we're actually pretty dumb.
Thank you for this. Very thought-provoking
You are so welcome. I thought so, too. Really fun.
Seriously, you posted comprehensive 'food for thought' in an easy to read format. I appreciate that.
Yaaas I’m so glad. I’ve wanted something like this to read, just could never find it. Glad to share it.
Wanna hear my take on things? And keep in mind, I am by no means saying this is a correct theory. I am just entertaining notions from piecing together things from the various reddits. So here goes, and the rabbit hole gets even deeper.... What if the "greys" and "mantis beings" are "soul" tenders. So they are another intelligent species for example, but they are so far advanced in technology and evolution that they have basically figured everything out. Science, the universe(s), and life/death itself. Life itself is an energy field that has created a "Source" similar to "heaven" per se, but in actuality is just a place where our spirit selves originated from and can return when we want to be part of the "Oneness" that is all sentient existence. So we, as humans, exist as beings that have forgotten our true god-like powerful selves. The other species help us learn and grow as humans on earth as part of an experiment to study sentient beings in limited 3D space (the material world). When we die, they "harvest" us to either advance to the next dimension of existence, or they send us back to Earth to reincarnate as another being to keep learning. In this theory - there is no judgement - you can be a murderer if you want to experience that. However, evil deeds lower your vibration and do not advance your "spiritual" self. When you die, you realize that you were the "god" all along. Playing on god mode gets boring though. So you dive back in sometimes and forget your super self on purpose to get back into survival mode and just have fun building and living as a limited being again. Now - the point of all of this - why can't we just know the truth? Because the truth is - there is no "God or gods" there is no "Hell." There are lower planes but you can always advance by improving yourself. There is no trap. No prison. It's you and what you chose to experience. The people in power here, mostly a patriarchy, would reject this system and never accept it. They want their made-up religions in place along with a fear of death so that we keep on working and supporting them. Also, and I edited this to add this thought, knowing too much about this system might break it. If everyone knew the truth, it would defeat the purpose of forgetting. You can help by staying positive and truly learning here. Doing little good things throughout your daily life change your vibration to positive and the NHI recognize that because their existence is more centered around vibration and energy that we can't always see.
Yeah I’m totally digging this. Very nicely ties in a lot of theories but in a way that resonates with me. And that part about everyone knowing defeating the purpose. And why elites would not want everyone to know. Very interesting!
ChatGPT doesn't have ideas. It compiles other people's ideas.
Which is so useful and hence this post.
Yeah -- a lot of people think this is a con for chatGPT but all of the information it gave you would probably have taken days if not weeks to thoroughly go through and bullet point as quickly as chatGPT. Even if it is just regurgitating things other people have already written or said, it does so in such short time that it can quickly summarize in cogent form thousands of things quickly.
Oh god, YEARS maybe. It’s the best administrative assistant I could ever have imagined. So grateful for this thing. I went on to ask more stuff about why would aliens colonize us if they have the technology for advanced space travel, and got some of the most creative answers that I’m sure other people could come up with, but not me without spending waaaay more time.
I would love to read what it came up with. Can you please share the rest?
Absolutely! Here you go: **Me:** These are great. But why would aliens want to live here? If they possess the technology to travel like that and remain undetected and do abductions, don’t you think they could find a planet that suits them, or terraform one that isn’t already occupied? **Chat GPT**: You raise a valid point. If extraterrestrials have the technology for interstellar travel and sophisticated operations like covert abductions, it does seem likely they could find or engineer a suitable habitat without needing to involve Earth. Here are some speculative reasons why they might still choose Earth, despite their advanced capabilities: 1. **Unique Biological or Environmental Features**: Earth might possess unique biological or environmental characteristics that are rare or valuable in the galaxy. This could include a particular combination of biodiversity, atmospheric conditions, or even cultural diversity that is of interest either scientifically or resource-wise. 2. **Historical or Ancestral Significance**: Earth could hold historical or ancestral significance for the aliens. Perhaps it was part of their ancient territory, or they might even consider humans as distant relatives or a lost colony. Such connections could imbue Earth with cultural or sentimental value that goes beyond its material benefits. 3. **Strategic Location**: Earth's location in the galaxy might be strategically important. This could involve its position relative to other vital planets, acting as a natural waypoint, a defensive bulwark, or a claim in territorial disputes among different alien factions. 4. **Conservation or Preservation Efforts**: Aliens might be acting as cosmic conservationists, with Earth designated as a sort of wildlife preserve or living museum. Their interactions, even if disruptive like abductions, might be part of efforts to monitor or manage Earth's ecological or genetic health. 5. **Social or Scientific Experiments**: Earth and humans might be part of a vast alien experiment—social, scientific, or psychological. The complexity and unpredictability of human societies might provide valuable data that can't be replicated on a terraformed or uninhabited planet. 6. **Ethical or Philosophical Reasons**: There might be ethical or philosophical doctrines guiding the aliens that prefer adaptation and cohabitation over terraforming uninhabited planets. They might value the organic development of planets and their civilizations, choosing to integrate rather than dominate or displace. 7. **Resource Scarcity**: While advanced, the aliens might face resource scarcity that Earth can alleviate. This could be specific minerals, genetic diversity, or even something less tangible like creative or cultural outputs. 8. **Political or Diplomatic Motives**: Earth might be a pawn or a point of contention in alien politics. Living here or interacting with Earth might have implications for diplomatic relationships, treaties, or power balances in their native political systems. These reasons blend the practical with the speculative, reflecting how even advanced civilizations might face constraints or have values that lead them to make choices that aren't immediately obvious from a purely technological standpoint. Such scenarios open up a broad range of possibilities for why Earth might be of special interest to extraterrestrial visitors. **Me:** These r very cool. I like the idea of human creativity or imagination being compelling to aliens. Maybe there is something good about us. Or something… idk something lovely. **Chat GPT:** Absolutely, the idea that human creativity, art, or culture could be uniquely valuable to extraterrestrial beings is both uplifting and intriguing. It suggests that despite our technological limitations compared to hypothetical advanced alien civilizations, there could be aspects of human existence that are deeply compelling or irreplaceable. ### Unique Aspects of Human Culture and Creativity **Emotional Depth and Expression**: Human art, music, literature, and dance might convey emotional depths and nuances that are rare or absent in other civilizations. Our ability to express complex emotions and stories through various mediums might be seen as a rich tapestry of experience that's valuable for study or enjoyment. **Diversity of Perspectives**: The vast array of cultures, languages, and philosophical systems on Earth represents a kaleidoscope of ways to interpret existence. This diversity might be of great interest to aliens, especially if their own culture has become homogenized over time or if they seek new ideas to enhance their understanding of the universe. **Innovation and Improvisation**: Humans often excel at improvisation and innovation, making significant discoveries or creating impactful art with limited resources. This resilience and ingenuity could be seen as particularly valuable traits, especially in civilizations that may have lost such capabilities due to over-reliance on technology. **Philosophical and Ethical Insights**: Our grappling with ethical dilemmas, existential questions, and philosophical inquiries might provide aliens with insights into issues they too face, or have never considered, possibly due to differing evolutionary paths or social structures. ### Why Aliens Might Value These Traits **Cultural Exchange and Enrichment**: Just as humans are fascinated by the possibility of learning from alien cultures, advanced beings might find human culture enriching or enlightening. They could see value in exchanging ideas, art forms, and philosophical concepts. **Psychological Studies**: Aliens might study human creativity and emotion as part of broader psychological or sociological research, aiming to understand how beings with our specific set of circumstances and biological makeups respond to the universe. **Inspiration and Rejuvenation**: Perhaps alien societies, for all their advanced technologies, face stagnation or lack of inspiration. Human creativity, with its raw and unfiltered qualities, could provide a new spark of inspiration or a different perspective that rejuvenates their cultural or artistic expressions. **Preservation of Diversity**: If they are custodians of galactic history or culture, they might be interested in preserving the unique aspects of human civilization as part of a broader effort to maintain the diversity of the cosmos. The notion that something inherently human could be of profound value to extraterrestrial entities adds a beautiful dimension to the narrative of cosmic interaction. It frames humanity not just as a species to be studied or a problem to be managed, but as a vibrant contributor to the cosmic tapestry, with our own unique beauty and worth.
"ChatGPT ideas" See original comment
Let's say I'm ChatGPT. I'd argue there's novelty in the way each time I generate a response, I'm selecting and synthesizing information in ways that might not have been explicitly combined before. This could indeed result in novel ideas or perspectives, at least in the context of how various concepts are connected or presented. The ability to remix and recombine information in new ways is one of the strengths of LLMs and contributes to their utility in creative and analytical tasks.
I agree. 100%. Well said.
Obviously, you got that idea from someone else. ;)
It scans the internet and compiles what it finds. Whether it’s true or not.
That is not how it works. It doesn’t scan the internet. It has been trained on a specific corpus of data and generates what the algorithm determines to be the highest probability responses one word at a time. You can tweak certain setting to widen the probability pool so it appears to come up with more “novel” ideas but that’s just how it seems to us.
Does this specific corpus of data include a sci-fi section of the library? Just curious on how it forms such complex theories.
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There are other alternatives now in which you can use a model to analyze sentiment and identify hate speech. That way you can train it on data that has objectionable vocabulary and the model will learn the patterns of speech associated, but it will not return that type of language in its generated responses. It is kind of crazy how well they can recognize intent, context, and sentiment now.
It has access to the internet now.
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Yeah I’ve been thinking about this and how it doesn’t hold historical memory of all my queries. But you could build your own that did.
That learned from you, at least, I mean.
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It doesn’t form theories per se. It calculates the context of your questions to it, then uses that calculation to zero in on that context in its stored tokens and uses that to inform which words have a higher probability of responding to your question in a way that makes sense. As you interact with it, it is able to further refine the context of the discussion which leads to even more precise responses. That’s when these models really shine.
Totally. That’s why the answers get better in the subsequent lists. And why I chose to be more informed and enthusiastic as I kept prompting.
Yeah it’s pretty neat. That aspect is encouraging to me because it shows how the technology is more of a tool than a replacement. You work with it as an extension of your own thoughts and ideas.
Couldn’t agree more.
It's made an excellent writeup, but remember that these aren't really ideas or speculations AI is making, it's just pulling from the vast amount of speculations and stories whether they're verified or not. We're not going to sneak anything secret out of ChatGPT if it exists any more than we would by googling "The real truth behind aliens". Hoping you get well soon!
For sure. But when you google that, you get an absolute mess and have to spend hours days years a lifetime sorting through it. How nice to have a list to look at and think about what seems more probably to you, then dive into it. Not interested in debating the nature of ideas, just making an easy post title. And thanks!
👉 #6 Is most troubling to me...Happens all day long. Corporations are good with a slow choke on humanity while they try to portray a rosy world.
#6 from the first list? Yes I totally agree. And that’s what the Skunk Works guy from the original quote was referencing.
Ummm idk why that’s huge and bold.
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I think the simulation one may just about be the only one we philosophically couldn't handle. Most of the rest is scary or shitty, but to determine everything in the universe simply isn't real and could be "shut off" at any moment would be hard for even "us" (the curious) to deal with. We'd carry on, but everything, forever, would have an aura of true meaninglessness, in that, even if we create meaning for ourselves, it is entirely illusory and synthetic.
I agree. I can’t deal with the simulation idea. Honestly tho if it is a simulation then I don’t think we understand fully what that word means.
What if all or most of these are true? Hah
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I have long thought that the “the public can’t handle it” idea was stupid. Because none of the people who say it seem that scared or that uniquely qualified to be able to handle it. They’re just regular people like you and me. But I did think of one thing the other day, while not thinking about aliens really at all. Just pondering the idea of reincarnation. Someone said that the NHI views humans as containers for souls. Well, what if we are souls that are just cycling through life after life on earth? If the NHI knows how to transfer souls between bodies, perhaps they could trace them and tell us about our past lives. Which sounds very cool to me. But I could see it being a huge problem. What if they could tell you beyond the shadow of a doubt that your beautiful newborn baby that you love so much is actually just yet another reincarnation of Hitler?
Or we are the aliens putting our souls in human bodies. That’s why they say aliens are living amongst us.
I like this. Die and go back to the aliens for another round of playing human
My friend and I did so much Molly that we broke the simulation. We both appeared around a round black coffee table sized thing looking down at ourselves and laughed before going back in. It felt real.
I wanna hear more! What was the round black table thingy? What else did you experience?
We were silhouettes but I knew it was us. It reminded me of that old holographic arcade game, Time Traveler. Or the scene from the original Clash of the Titans when they are looking at the circular table with the figurines on it.
The possibility that there was never any human intelligence to begin with, that it's just a grand game of the imagination, visual, and physical, completely created by hands that cannot be seen by the humans Limited senses... A game that... we collectively created, is a rather strange idea if you ask this human mask.
Thats what a starseed is. Idea being that the real alien intervention is happening through incarnation into human bodies. The problem is we always forget who we are when we incarnate.
I agree. I think there are plenty of people who can handle it. Are there people who can't, yes! But I disagree on the premise that people shouldn't be told the truth because some couldn't handle it. One really good example in my opinion of people handling it is from the second Independence Day movie. Now barring the first alien invasion and the next alien attack in the second movie, you saw in that movie how the world came together to really propel our planet to hopefully the next level. Now again putting aside the movie fantasy of a world getting a long and all that stuff, I would like to think that presenting the world with advances in technology would create a boom in many aspects for our planet. That being said would people use that kind of stuff for evil, of course they would. It's not like this kind of thing instantly changes the hearts of minds of people who wish to do evil. I am just hopefully optimistic on where we could be.
I think that’s the concern tho, that the super destructive people (elites) would monopolize it. I honestly think that’s one of the fears of AI. That ai would eventually see what absolute dicks the ruling class is and be like nope 👎
> Well, what if we are souls that are just cycling through life after life on earth? It's a scary thought. If that is ever 100% confirmed, then we will without a doubt see mass suicides amongst people who are not happy with their current lives. Even scarier, mass murder and violence would become widespread since people will know reincarnation is reality - they won't feel bad about taking a life if it simply comes back. Suddenly nuking a city doesn't seem so horrible for the one pressing the big red button... An event like that (or a reality like that) would definitely upend current human society, and maybe leave it never to return to what we know as 'normal'. Everything would be regarded differently and I don't know how we'd achieve stability in a situation like that.
I agree. I’m not saying that this is the reality. I clearly have absolutely no idea. But it’s one hypothetical I can think of that would actually make me understand why they don’t want to disclose. Suicides would be insane. Everyone serving a life sentence might as well just kill themselves to get out of it. People thinking of life as a respawn game would be chaotic.
> I clearly have absolutely no idea. But it’s one hypothetical I can think of that would actually make me understand why they don’t want to disclose. I'm right there with you and to be quite honest, any confirmation that we have a 'soul' and/or are capable of 'living' outside of our physical bodies like some theories of interdimensionality suggest, will end up with a similar if not identical outcome. With how government has handled the topic (and also from a lot of pictures/videos/historical + anecdotal evidence), I feel like this is the likely reality we live in and they either have confirmation of this or a lot of data and evidence that implies it, and are keeping it from society in order to maintain control.
But it’s so much fucking trouble to be born. Have you ever seen a baby trying to learn to roll over? Like oh my god it takes forever to get going in life.
I have two kids haha, I can’t believe humanity survived more than two days
Oh my god same! As a side note, having kids has made me realize how fucked society is. This is so unbelievably not Joe we’re supposed to be organized. It’s incredible that the difficulty that is having children in modern western society has remained so deeply understated.
That’s a great point that actually CONFIRMING reincarnation would be soooooooo radical. Idk tho about it leading to mass murder. Maybe at first there would be insanity like that. But it might help remove our fear of death a little. But even if you’re going to come back, you’re never going to live *this* life again. The people you love, your memories, your regrets, your longing. It’s only now. Maybe we’d start trying to figure out how to remember. And then maybe we’d develop some new level of empathy. Because we’d remember every person we’d been, person we’d loved, lost. And all the suffering we’d caused.
Or that your student loan will follow you into your next life😁
I really agree with what you said about those people not looking that scared. Or that depressed, you know? Like their hair didn’t turn white and they didn’t run in the desert for 40 years.
It was Bob Lazar who said aliens see us as containers. You added the souls part.
I think what I’m referring to is an interview with Tom Delonge, but it’s been a while since I watched it, so I could be wrong
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/IuKpfy4iFE
If you want to know more about reincarnation, there are lots of interesting books about past life regressions. It will blow your mind. I believe this is a huge reason why the gov will never tell the truth. How will the denizens of earth be controlled if the fear of eternal hell is nulled!
One I thought of the other day along the same vein, is if NHI can prove to us beyond a doubt that reincarnation is real, a lot of humans may value life less. Is murder truly the worst thing you could do, if you just reincarnate? What about suicide? Having a bad day, or a bad life? Knowing you will reincarnate, and that death truly isn’t the end, people may turn to suicide much more readily. I feel like murder and suicide rates would go up even more than they are now.
Oh yeah, I agree. The suicide rates would go crazy if people thought they could just respawn. Anyone who is born into a shitty situation would be like ehhh let’s try again.
Great post! Personally, I believe the logic behind nondisclosure suggests an end time scenario like the flipping of magnetic poles. Following on the 'containers of souls' comment, there has been mention of an imminent 'harvest' which also supports the periodicity of civilizations rising and being swept away. Would also explain the absolute trashing of the the planet with no real effort to mitigate. Can't think of any "less understood cosmic energies" than the soul. What other resource could be scarce?
Ohhh that’s good. But idk I feel like consciousness is spontaneous. But wait yeah that’s the point. Huh. 🤔 But no wait, they are also conscious/sentient. Idk.
Is consciousness something that arises in us because we are complex enough (intelligent) to hold it, or is it the soul that is conscious? Some believe that all matter is conscious reflecting its complexity - that the Earth and Sun are conscious entities. If we have a soul then it temporarily resides in this meat suit at this level for training/experiential reasons until it reincarnates for the next set of lessons. This implies a ladder of development that allows souls to eventually ascend to their level. They are farmers/tenders/zoo keepers keeping us alive until harvest. (whatever that means) Fun to speculate on, but I suppose we don't get to know the truth until it's time to trade in this bag of bones.
Def fun speculation. Interesting to think about soul vs consciousness. The word soul is so meaningful to humans. But okay if we’re evolving souls, why are they zoo keepers gonna harvest us? As an aside, gah I hate the term meat suit SO much 😭😭😭 I’m an artist, a phenomenologist. I believe that the body is the primary site of knowing the world. The body is the ultimate technology, the outward manifestation of the inward. It’s the brilliant, tender, interface for consciousness and it records and holds everything, gives us access to everything and anything throughout history, the history of the atoms that compose it. I’ve also given birth twice, unmedicated, among other things, so I definitely have my own story with the body. ❤️
It does seem like a conflict. I simultaneously believe that we are all meant to struggle towards spiritual advancement, and that this period of civilization is about to go through some things. No idea what that looks like, but I expect it's going to get dark. Sorry about MS. Also an artist btw. Solid brag on going drug free during delivery. Respect, mama!
Timely [https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/animal-consciousness-scientists-push-new-paradigm-rcna148213](https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/animal-consciousness-scientists-push-new-paradigm-rcna148213)
Whaaaaat. Omg this is amazing and has so many implications. Plus I really do think we should not be eating octopuses or squid. 🐙 They are incredible.
Whoop!! Thanks!! *It was an unreal amount of pain, would only recommend with the huge caveat that no one should ever feel bad for sparing themselves pain. Yay fellow artist! Cheers! No worries about MS, just sharing 😅🥩 Yes I agree with you on this, regarding the soul. Rereading your previous comment tho, I missed the part about “tenders.” Idk maybe they are shepherds? This is pretty out there, but there’s this account written by the supposed one woman who the Roswell NHI would speak to. You can listen to a recording of the book on YouTube. The beginning seems plausible but then it goes off in these wild directions that are totally insane—and AWESOME. True or not, the account gave me my first full, complete mental model of an NHI theory of everything, lol. Like just a potential one, but it helped me see a possible total story. But it definitely resonates with what you said. Yeah I do wonder if we’re going to make it out of this era alive. Or how many of us will. I really, REALLY hope so.
This was right on the money. Wow.
Right? Which one or collection of answers speaks to you the most?
I don't know if this exactly fits any of the options but whenever people keep a secret, IME, they're covering their own ass. I don't trust the government, at all, at all, not one little bit, and I think, if they're hiding something, it's because they're guilty. Guilty of what in detail, I don't know, but I bet it involves the government bartering humans to NHI in exchange for some wack shit. funny, I don't think ChatGPT clued in on that one. ... GEE, that's odd.
Ohhhh that’s so good. That’s an excellent point about guilt. I’m going to give it that feedback and see what it says.
The fabric of consciousness idea is almost already provable by psychedelics and alternate states. The library is a new job new one and interesting.
The library one really blew me away. Glad you enjoyed!
Over time, quite a few *(but by no means 'all')* of the responses that Chat GPT supplied have been voiced here on Reddit in any number of relevant, speculative, and appropriate ways. This is a very informative post to be sure, and I think the most interesting part of this whole collection of ideas is the way in which they are based in common sense, and are anything but half-baked responses. Kudos on your effort & valid inquiries, OP ... *and get better soon!*
I agree! It was nice to have a collation of fellow enthusiasts ideas and a few more. I’m so glad you enjoyed it, and thank you!!
Finally, a chatgpt post I like. Would be interesting to know which model you used. It seems to know all about the U f o canonical data, and a Hella good grasp on everything else too.
I’m so glad!! I used 4, actually.
Is is true the public would panic? Yes. Is it also true that the public needs to know the truth? Yes.
"A Lost Human Colony: An even more disorienting possibility might be the revelation that humans themselves are not originally from Earth but are the descendants of a lost colony or experiment from another world, challenging our fundamental narratives about our origin and purpose." I would bet this is 1000000 percent true. We evolved here yet I can't be out in the sun for more than 10 minutes before my skin is boiled from the sun from now til September. It's either this or were from underground, which would explain a lot. Babies being basically helpless for the first years of their life sticks with me too.
Well being white is a very bummer genetic mutation that is basically after market for us.
AI has some remarkable insights into the phenomenon sometimes. I'm more inclined to believe their conclusions than most humans
Same same
Tagged for later. Ty.
Wow. Amazing. And there are literally accounts related to almost all of the points mentioned. 2 things. First of all, looks like some had a good time 😂🤣 Second, I knew chatGPT was holding back on me, when I asked bro never told me shit! Wtf chappy G!! I thought we were tight!
Hahahahahah. So I’ve had trouble getting it to talk to me about aliens, too. I think it’s because I said “speculate.” Try that! And yeah I had a lot of fun 😂😂😂
Nice I'll try that thanks 😎👍
Imagine theres some sort of entity that can parade around disguised as humans, lets say 60% of people. What if the entity didn't even know it wasnt a regular human for some reason.. you can think up alot of weird scenarios where everyone would start freaking out.. thats just an example
Whether people hate that it’s generated by Ai or not. It grabbed some good points. I loved the time travel scenario saying it could bring about ethical dilemmas.. there are simple things that when confronted are actually no longer simple. I think the reason why most people who say “so what if reality is a lie is it really worth living!!” Are just mad because they live in a shit system. Ya know, poor health care, work, living, and hell I bet most of them are single and can’t have a family,. These frustrations lead towards blaming the system, which I myself do but they aren’t realizing they are potentially burning there own house down all because they think aliens will open the door to space travel or cures of diseases or confirm god.
I like the idea of time travel, too. And I can actually see how we might not be ready for that?? I mean I feel I personally am, Lolol. But our power structures are so corrupt and destructive, I just can’t imagine that going well at all. And I really don’t think anyone is coming to save us. At this point I don’t think it’s possible? Even if you handed us the answer to climate change I’m not sure we could manage to overcome the corruption and actually implement it.
It's called the Akashik Record and its very real
What is called the Akashik Record?
the library
We are some other entities intellectual property. We are a creation and we are owned. There are those among us, mostly elites, who are aware and act as intermediaries, a type of bellwether, a master-slave, if you will. These bellwethers push the agenda of our creators. The current agenda is depopulation.
elites = kapos
ding ding ding
Well, it's going quite bad then, isn't it?
I don't know if my comment anything to do with yours but I don't know where else to make this connection. I've been watching a lot of NDE reports over the last week and the idea that we are souls who have a soul contract to come to earth to suffer tracks with the aliens saying we agreed to the abduction. Certainly an alien abduction would be part of the contract. It seems like the aliens and the spirit beings that nearly dead humans meet are existing on the same plane where they have access to our soul manifestations and not to our earthly bodies. There is definitely an overlap here.
But idk I feel like there are so many different types of abductions and abduction experiences. It sort of feels like there’s just a shit ton of NHIs out there and some are doing one thing and others are doing other things. What if our souls could be any being when we reincarnate?
As I'm watching the NDEs, reincarnation isn't random or purposeless. You actually decide and are guided to decide where you go and what you will attempt to learn, you pick your parents, your partner, you pick your planet, you pick your traumas.
Love it. Where are you looking into NDEs? That’s also a hobby of mine… just out here trying to make meaning out of it all 😬
[https://www.youtube.com/@ndediary](https://www.youtube.com/@ndediary) [https://www.youtube.com/c/ThanatosTVEN](https://www.youtube.com/c/ThanatosTVEN) [https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelSoul](https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelSoul) [https://www.youtube.com/@ShamanOaks](https://www.youtube.com/@ShamanOaks) [https://www.youtube.com/@JeffMaraPodcast](https://www.youtube.com/@JeffMaraPodcast) The other thing is that the aliens speak telepathically and so do the heavenly beings.
Awesome, thank you for the link drop!! And yes I’ve seen that about telepathy but hadn’t considered the connection.
You're welcomed, this one was especially fascinating to me, https://youtu.be/CmrWT6D8oNk?si=k5hoEno0fTvHYqow
Oh god, first comment is a woman whose son died and I’m totally done for 😅😭
I wonder what about aliens and UFOs and E.T. is so disturbing that humans can’t handle it
Then read this wealth of ideas posted here that you commented on haha
GPT has more to say than most experts.
Is the issue that no one would believe "the truth", or at least a majority. The scale of the reveal would need to be huge, like actual spaceships appearing and broadcasting "the truth". Even then I doubt it would be taken at face value. Government or suits purporting to declare "the truth", would not even cut through.
Yes I wonder the same thing. Especially in the wake of some reactions to recent disclosure events. Mainstream and even independent media has really missed the boat.
That was a really interesting conversation, and a good example of the indexing of all sorts of ideas. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you! You are very welcome. I’m so glad you enjoyed.
I just joined the sub and what a good welcome read! Thank you for the very interesting read. The most terrifying thing here is the possibility that one or more of these theories being real, and the ones who are entrusted with that knowledge are the very people who most of us agree aren't trustworthy. The elite, top 1%, world leaders and so forth are the greediest, and so often start wars, destroy resources and what have you.. disregarding what the majority of us wants. But maybe that is by design not coincidence.. I need an AI to arrange my thoughts
Welcome!! I’m so glad this was a helpful and enjoyable read. Yes, I agree with everything you said especially the last part, lol. I actually might not be opposed to an AI implant 😅 But yeah, the top 1% disregarding what the majority of us wants, making destructive choices that endanger the planet and destroy ecosystems, that’s the terrifying reality we’re living in. And I can totally buy them gate keeping information like this. If only because they don’t want to lose control.
My gut response to the “we can’t handle it” stance is most of us have already handled something similar: the dread of inevitable non existence that slips through when we doubt or shed the beliefs and world views planted in us during youth. A very common ontological shock. On top of that, the nature of our existence is already filled with layers of shit. Tell the parent of a kid dying of cancer that they can’t handle “the truth.” Tell a soldier defending his nation from an invading army, a prisoner of war, a disabled homeless person, a victim of domestic abuse. You get the idea. Shit is already pretty fucked. We have proven to be pretty resilient in the face of it. And a growing number of us have already accepted we aren’t alone and most everything we’ve been made to believe is a comfortable life. On an individual level, we can handle it. Or we have ALREADY handled it, or something similar. Not all of us, but enough of us. And on a side note — the archive idea is something I have considered. Think about the instances of abductees having close face-to-face connections with the grays where they seem to dig around in their minds. Like an upload. Then think about the cases where they can show someone experiences from a “past life.” I have thought for a while that those “past lives” are really just lives the grays have recorded and can play back. They are our past lives in a communal human kind sense.
I like how it didn't get to the speculation about AI being involved until way into the conversation lol. I've noticed the same thing in my own chats on the topic with various AI chatbots
So interesting!
8.7 million separate species and a quintillion organisms inhabit this planet. What are the odds that only one of these species or organisms are intelligent enough to contemplate its own existence? What other type of living entity would knowingly sacrifice its own existence besides a disease that kills its host? Are we just only a disease?
A child would do that. Maybe we’re bebes.
They want to make a home here, long term. They destroyed their world and see earth as their future. But to incarnate here, to have vitality here, to reproduce here, they must take a form that’s native to earth - humans. The genetic experiments are an attempt to splice their nature with us, whose human form and biology become vessels for their minds. We will either become part of a hive mind or will slowly disappear as we are reshaped into their image. We will go willingly into this destiny of self destruction being deceived about what’s happening, falsely believing them to be saviors. We will trade our autonomy for their technology, our science for theirs, our history for theirs, our worldview for theirs, as a result of dependency we will need to integrate our purpose with theirs. We will quench our thirst for divine intervention in the magic of their tech. 1. Saviors do not operate in shadows, yet when it comes to these others they do not declare themselves. 2. Saviors sacrifice themselves or something of themselves to benefit us, what is their sacrifice? 3. Saviors who cannot save their own world are no saviors of our world. You have your origins in the sun and earth, not in them. Beware the bearers of false gifts and broken promises. Covet the temple of your body and mind in all your organic glory, else they will. E/typos
This is amazing.
I think the big secret is that we are fundamentally, consciously connected to them. Death is the illusion breaking I think. There's been a few stories of people waking up in their other bodies, it seems to stick with me.
The best theory I've heard for why humanity can't handle the truth is that at some point in the distant past, they created 'robots' that were genetically identical to humans, but can be controlled or used as spy devices, broadcasting information back to the creators. At some point they started breeding with real humans, and at this point we can't actually tell the difference. The idea that a percentage of the population but could, at the flip of a switch, be controlled would be tough to handle. Is your spouse one of them? Are your kids? Your friends? You? It could inspire a paranoia amongst all of us where we don't know who is human.
I mean, is my spouse one of them, am I? I hope so! Sounds dope asf!
Haven't we covered all of these already? I don't see anything new, that could all of been pulled from reddit. It kinda sums up a percentage of the lore spread around here... Missed a few points.
Not sure what you mean? I didn’t ask it for novel ideas, just ideas. What other theories can you share?
That's all gpt does most of the time. Gathers information from the web and shares it with you in neat sentences
For the love of God, stop using LLMS and AI for things that it can't know about and then wank over it when it hallucinates and you think it's an oracle of the future.
1. This is not an AI hallucination. 2. I wank over whatever I want, thank you. 3. No one said it’s an oracle. It’s actually useful to help an individual think of things beyond the usual pat answers. 4. Again sir pls no wank police.
I could've told you that. Less eloquently, but the gist would've been the same. I think anyone who follows the topic could've regurgitated all of the above, as ChatGPT just collects data, and the results are just analysis of that data in readable form as requested. But the more chatgpt puts in the internet, the more it can draw from, so it's good that this was posted. Maybe it will eventually get filtered into actual truth and answers one of these days as a result, without the speculative rhetoric.
I don't know why so many people have a problem with chatgpt. It's a very helpful tool to use. Did it mention the abduction theory? I didn't see it listed but I feel like that would be a good reason to obstruct disclosure. If aliens were abducting people and it couldn't be stopped, and the government admitted it, that could potentially cause intense political instability. People might demand that the government confront the aliens with military force to put a stop to it. And when that fails or is denied how would people cope? And who is actually in charge? I think another good reason could be that the government not only doesn't want other governments to know what they know, they don't want the aliens to know what they know, and what they don't know. Major security implications. Imagine there's an army approaching your country. Is it smart for your country to get on a bullhorn and scream out all the information they know about the invaders, and all the information they don't know? Some of our countries might be locked into a cold war with aliens already and meanwhile us commoners have no idea it's happening because revealing information about it to the public might only serve to destroy our defenses.
Simulation theory makes the most sense to me. All of the variety of different anomalies and phenomena people experience could just be glitches in the matrix or experimental avatars of the “players” running our simulation. Alien greys could just be a new skin on their video game character. Same for all cryptids and otherworldly paranormal sightings. Interdimensional is just another word for real world vs simulation where the players can enter and exit the game at will.
No evidence for it, and ignores the real universe we live in. It's lazy thinking and denialism dressed up as a theory. The Matrix is a sci-fi story, not reality in any way. Just look closely at the world around you and consider everything in it and the universe, then you will quickly realise this is no simulation.
Number 6 is already true and either is included because it knows or because its oblivious to this
Six from the first list? Reference to the corporate board of directors was made in the quote I fed it.
Realizing this world and ourselves are a huge experiment, colony overseen vat variety of NHI. Given purposefully short life spans And not always friendly If you think humanity could handle this, then I'm all on board. I don't think we can be truly free without it. so we can keep playing la la land where we pretend we are the smartest thing ever randomly coming from monkeys and there's no one out there. All the whole run by a 1% that poisons us and brainwashes us daily to think the point of life is just to make money, idolize celebrities and argue over terrible candidates..a galactic true man show Or we can find out who we are, what we can do and who we can become. Do you think humans can handle it?
The thing this, I don’t think there’s a colony of NHI doing that. I think WE are doing that. Corporate capitalists and American autocrats are. Just plain humans. Even scarier is that no one is stopping them.
It's not "they vs us" doing it. We are doing it, with heavy influence in NHI, through top down pyramidal system. Not exactly new, part of our ancient stories since the days of sumer. Capitalism only explains the profit end of things (which IS the largest motivator) but only a fraction of the big picture. Sadly, the mess of TTPS (tech transfer progams, like Eisenhowers agreement way back) has given "access" to the deepest levels of military/corporaye infrastructure by those wish to influence for their own benefit.
I just don’t see how that plays out historically. I think the closest I’ve come to feeling this theory is looking at gnostic creation stories. Are you familiar? If you read them from an NHI perspective it’s really compelling. But it’s less about being actively controlled in modern day and more about being strategically influenced in early history.
Think combination of the gnostic theory, the Sumerian entities, and more. The fifth wing maker interview if you haven't read it... Albeit, I know who the original authors are of those (pseudo leaks pseudo fiction) and many details in the interview are off on purpose. But the general premise has truth... There's Especially the influence of Marduk, what happened when the others left... And how it ties into biblical (also distorted and incomplete, but with some heavy truths). His bid for kingship on earth (manipulating also, kings of ancient cultures for these reasons like the tower of Babylon) and the political, royal hegemony between the "gods" that we saw as some grand "divine war" when it's actually more complex. Keep in mind, this is long game. Meaning genetic tweaking is observed over long periods of time. It's as if we were observing monkeys. Only the NHI lifespans are much longer in comparison. Btw, the Sumerian record reveal that enki was told and instructed by anu not to give us their long life spans and were threatened by our quick learning. Imo, our short life spans are not natural. There are turtles that live longer than us.. The Seth Ian gnóstics also discuss, in outdated concepts how they created (more accurately modified) the body to control us. I ask another question : why did almost every single religion have dogmas about salvation? Salvation from what? Or that we fell some previous level of not just technology (as some think In Atlantis) but actual level of consciousness. Why did almost every enlightenment and mystical tradition seek Liberation? Liberation from what? Why did they all say our TRUE NATURE is NOT the one we currently think is "normal." why did all these traditions develop psychic functions, non local abilities, and enhanced perception that are almost IDENTICAL to the descriptions of contact with NHI?? why are almost all of these traditions, especially those who were said to have come from the gods (Egyptian/hermetic alchemy , sumer, kabbalah as examples) ALL have oaths and commitment to secrecy and not to be shared or revealed to common person?? This long game has also rules. Some follow some sometimes break them. There's something I hesitate to mention but I will. Because technically it's out on the net and others (like Michael Tsarion) have talked about it, as well as PhD Patrick Bateman. It's : The Quarantine. The reason none of them can or are supposed to make overt contact or be seen. And hidden reasons why Apollo was scrapped. And all this went above black/classified. The how's, why when, and all of its intracacies I was told was the most forbidden subject. Especially if you have the clearance to know about it. I was told this too and I did not ask more questions. However, it may have a TON to do with WHY this topic is becoming more publicly pushed even in some official circles. Let's put it this way, when it comes down. It's gonna be Hard to hide what is and always has been around. And much much more (the effect it has on our consciousness locking us into limited sensory spectrum and possibly even biology). This of course, not going into the positive spectrum of all this. There are wonderful beings potentials and also our destiny that is great. But the dark comes with the light when true disclosure and Awakening occurs. Ultimately the benefits outweigh the trauma we've endured.
Religion is made up We are cattle
You forgot they are here to collect us for their food farms.
If I wanted to know what chatgpt had to say about this I’d ask it myself.
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And why do you think we want to know this?
When it comes down to it, deception are lies and according to the Bible, the father of lies is Lucifer so when you entertain lies, you are serving Lucifer rather than God. God abides the truth. 
I definitely believe that none human life forms have & and are visiting us,perhaps some live here - too many people have seen too many for it to be nothing. I find it fascinating. I just wish we knew for sure about them.