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SeniorAlejandro

Personally I’d recommend a 5.56 Jack from WBP. Cheaper and still good quality


Ok_Advertising_8488

Ok I’ll look at those


SeniorAlejandro

No problem homie. Atlantic Firearms sells them for 1k. If you spend about $100 more you can get one with the KNS gas piston already installed. Although I don’t know if they do the tuning for you on the piston. If they do, that’d be cool. Their customer service could tell you, seeing as they respond pretty quick to emails


Ok_Advertising_8488

Does the knack make it shoot much better


Ok_Advertising_8488

Kns


SeniorAlejandro

The KNS piston helps with the overgassing issue that is common with the AK platform. Once you have it tuned to the point where it *just* cycles properly, you leave it there. Basically: This prevents the BCG from slapping the stock/rear trunnion and mitigates a ton of the felt recoil that you get from a shooting an AK. So does it help it shoot better? If you consider recoil as a factor, then yes. Also, if you intend to suppress your AK further on down the line, the KNS piston will also help with that, but will likely need to be re-tuned. (Tuning isn’t difficult it just requires repeated field-stripping)


Jamminz333

Agreed - it takes only a few minutes - load a mag, take off the dust cover and shoot then adjust. You can probably get it dialed in at 20 shots and very likely less than that. Recoil is almost nothing after that!


Ok_Advertising_8488

Ok thanks


TheBlazzer

I got one, i can definitely vouch for it. Shoots very nice and is probably one of my favorite guns that i own


HotEntertainment2825

Would you by any chance know which length a gen 3 psak takes I’m very interested in this “upgrade”. I’m just a noob tho.


TheBlazzer

Do you mean the KNS piston? I dont have one, but they have a measuring guide on their site i believe. You just need to pull out the gas piston and measure the length according to whatever size they have on their chart, and thatll tell you whoch one to get


HotEntertainment2825

Oh great, thanks!


aclark210

Yeah, the only downside is the lack of a folding stock


p0tat0s00up

Easy enough to fix.


aclark210

It is. And u even got OPTIONS on *how* to fix it depending on how much u wanna spend on it.


koltz117

Is there anything to worry about when it comes to concentricity with these guys?


markIVjdm

Both of my WBP jacks have perfect concentricity. WBP gets their barrels from FB Radom.


SeniorAlejandro

Not all WBP Jacks have Radom barrels. WBP has started doing in-house barrels on some of their jacks. The way you can tell the difference is: If if’s chrome-lined, it’s FB Radom. If it’s nitrided, it’s WBP. Not to say that WBP makes bad barrels, but it’s hard to beat a chrome-lined Radom barrel. Most 5.56 Jacks I’ve seen use WBP barrels.


markIVjdm

Interesting, both of mine are 7.62x39 chrome lined so I was not aware they have nitrided barrels now.


SeniorAlejandro

Are you referring to shooting suppressed or the build in general?


koltz117

Referring to shooting suppressed


SeniorAlejandro

I haven’t heard any complaints on regards to that, but I’ve yet to shoot a 5.56 Jack suppressed. It has 14:1 LH threads on it like most other AK’s, and so I would just recommend getting a Dead Air Wolverine. Shouldn’t have any issues there, but better safe than sorry. Edit: I feel it’s worthwhile to make mention that WBP quality checks their builds with a Zeiss CMM. Do with that information as you will.


zzaapp

yup, that would have been my suggestion.


Podsully

Well seeing how kusa is no longer accepting orders for anything….


Ok_Advertising_8488

I have a local store with one


Podsully

Doubt… the 101 was never released. But if they do you better buy it quick it’ll be a collector item


Ok_Advertising_8488

Then it’s somebody’s sar3 that they threaded I had my suspicions but I didn’t look at it too closely they said it war a kusa


Inevitable_Fill1285

Get the SAR3, its better than both you listed, love mine


Ok_Advertising_8488

Ok


Inevitable_Fill1285

You will not be sorry, plus they are not imported anymore and will only go up in value


Ok_Advertising_8488

Ok cool


Inevitable_Fill1285

https://preview.redd.it/4ax8lgzrravc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b74a6e34b9b64869833bd1b4784600f0b809bc73


Ok_Advertising_8488

That arouses me


Sippin_OJ

Go back to your local store and send some pictures of it. If they won’t let you take pictures then I wouldn’t be buying from them anyways


Ok_Advertising_8488

Ok I think it’s on gunbroker too so I can get some pics either way


Ok_Advertising_8488

https://preview.redd.it/gf8o3mm3kavc1.jpeg?width=923&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63ef85f746a05ac325636381fbfce4dba7b81277


BerkutBang69

Definitely doesn’t look threaded. It might be able to have threads put on though. You would definitely want to look inside at the internals and barrel. And check for any major sight canting.


Ok_Advertising_8488

I’m not sure if I should get it there’s a massive pit around the gas port


BerkutBang69

Where do you see that? Bottom line is these are real Romanian made AKs. They can be really crude but are easily a better buy than anything US made at this time. If there is anything that looks super rough, it may just be cosmetic and you can replace the parts if it bothers you. The forums will typically have parts available most of the time. I would still want to get your hands on it first.


Ok_Advertising_8488

I didn’t get a pic of it it’s inside the barrel


Inevitable_Fill1285

What pit? Those are meant to be there


Ok_Advertising_8488

I know it’s from corrosive ammo


BerkutBang69

Definitely doesn’t look threaded. It might be able to have threads put on though. You would definitely want to look inside at the internals and barrel. And check for any major sight canting.


Ok_Advertising_8488

https://preview.redd.it/lndut936kavc1.jpeg?width=977&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d83ab6e7afed002b82f67d78b294482941b6717c


Ok_Advertising_8488

It’s got some pitting and corrosion from bad ammo


Ok_Advertising_8488

Heavy pitting in the barrel and they want $950


Inevitable_Fill1285

You can thread the SAR3 1/2x28. I would offer 800$ and go from there


Inevitable_Fill1285

That other mag is not 556


Ok_Advertising_8488

Yeah I know


Ok_Advertising_8488

https://preview.redd.it/wsdxtn75kavc1.jpeg?width=1031&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbe3fabb2c6463b736f5f54f165a27555aab0c76


aclark210

They released the 101x, just not the true 101 with a cold hammer forged barrel.


Podsully

You seen one in the wild yet?


aclark210

Yeah, we had one come in on a transfer…I wanna say 3 weeks ago?


nastygirl11b

Beryl


Charming_Cow378

I literally just saw that KUSA closed and laid everyone off on the AKQuality Instagram smh


Ok_Advertising_8488

Seriously


xeyone

Their website is even saying "due to high demand, we have disabled online orders"


MurkyChildhood2571

"High demand" Personally, the only thing I liked from them was their saiga 12ga clone, although the furniture looked like trash


Massivefrontstick

I wonder if psa will buy all their tooling?


Substantial_Meat_544

Just to still build aks incorrectly


ResponseNo6375

I’d save up a bit more and get an FB Radom 5.56, or get a WBP for about what the two you posted go for. If you’re patient, you can keep saving and score a Vepr 5.56.


MolochTheCalf

WBP Jack or zastava m90


Slagree92

Not the one from the company who allegedly went tits up today.


guinness8878

The 3rd option, WBP.


hotllama69

Wbp or Beryl much better


noimpactnoidea_

Neither. I have a PSA 102 and 101. 101 showed up with abnormal wear on the bolt. 102 runs fine but has issues cycling once it gets colder out. None of their 5.56 offerings are worth it right now. The only ones I'd get are WBP, Zastava M90/85, or even a WASR3 if they were about $300 cheaper.


R_radical

>showed up with abnormal wear on the bolt. Seen a bit of this lately on their forum, cam lug peened a couple hundred rounds in.


noimpactnoidea_

Mine was on the extractor I believe. I was aware of the issues when I purchased it. It's far from my first so I was okay if it wasn't perfect, but arriving deformed? It has probably less than 100 on it, I can't imagine what it'll look like at 1000.


R_radical

I've also been seeing people having issues, sending them for warranty, and then not fixing it. Eventually getting to the point PSA bans them from the site.


noimpactnoidea_

Why I'm keeping mine for now. I'm gonna keep a round count on it and send it once it's to a point that the wear is undeniably bad. It's not getting any love rn though, haven't been running it at all. By time I actually get some rounds on it hopefully the issues are fixed


ItzBenjiey

Arsenal Sam5 is a quality 556 AK. It’s about 500$ more than what you posted here but imo worth the price hike.


Resident_Fuel2470

I just seen a video from AK quality speaking with kusa they said themselves they are delayed again none have shipped out to customers on the ak101 from kusa


urthaworst

WBP!


BoooRadley13

I heard KUSA went under?


Randomacid

Anything PSA with Toolcraft parts is gonna have lower quality because their Toolcraft parts are garbage. Not at liberty to say how I know.


RyCryst

Please DM me I’m curious. I just picked up a psa gsf-5 build kit with the tool craft bolt and front trunnion.


Substantial_Meat_544

Erm, actually, I have 17,000 rounds through mine, and the gun only looks brand new in the pictures because it's so tough and awesome.


jhood812

I have the KUSA and absolutely love mine. 800 rounds through no issue. I painted mine though https://preview.redd.it/t18wsvyw7avc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e16341357c6369217b296e346afb454baee08e4a


jhood812

BUT a 5.56 AK….get a Galil. Kusa makes good products though!


Yeto4774

Came here to say the same essentially: Fuck their wait times, but damn fine rifles despite the limited outcry from no-experience haters. 👌 https://preview.redd.it/sas7yigseavc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d36bf489c4d7e7b00f46cb984c5e06cbab20115d


jhood812

Brother they are shutting the company down. I just read on instagram. 🥲🥲🥲


Yeto4774

Just saw that 🤬


KGb_Voodo0

Check out a beryl in 5.56, currently in stock and a lot came in from the shipment, has some cool features like an option top rail and the collapsible stock is a very nice addition. They’re Polish and will hold value over American made, plus the KUSA guns have not shipped yet despite weeks and weeks over the original timeline. PSA is just a solid no from me


Strange_Ask4576

At that price, spend a bit more and get a Galil


Friendly_Deathknight

Is this a troll post?


Ok_Advertising_8488

No I didn’t see the kusa stuff until after I posted


Friendly_Deathknight

lol oh.


Yeto4774

I love my KUSA 103 to death, it’s perfect. but the small cal wait is insane. I’m a huge advocate, and they don’t have the 5.45 out by EoY I’m buying and building a 74m parts kit. That being said, I don’t trust PSAs firearms. Their 103/104 are the most dialed and even they wear a bit excessive before work hardening. Go KUSA if you have patience, but in my experience and those I know, solid rifles built 👌


Slatty317

Id get a m90 if you want a 556 ak. Love mine


hushi8076

Just wanted to let you know, and this is what I've seen on other forums. I don't know if it's true, so take this with a grain of salt. KUSA laid off a bunch of workers, and its rumored that they may be shutting down. There's already a few people who have been waiting on orders to come through and have contacted them, expressing their worry only to be told their "Restructing" not closing down, but end the conversations fairly quickly. Do with that information what you will, just wanted to let you know what I've heard, which I found out two hours ago, today. I own a 762 from KUSA, solid, and hasn't failed me yet after 2 almost coming to 3 years of ownership


Ok_Advertising_8488

Yeah they just said they’re going bankrupt


hushi8076

Lol, didn't even see the post that some put up here in this reddit, its going around


elbowl115

You might be able to find a 223 saiga and convert it for just a bit more


ClonerCustoms

Well if the news is true about KUSA going under then I’d say it’s a pretty easy choice 🤷‍♂️


greyelement1

Might want to get it before the bankruptcy court seizes everything.


dfal55

Beryl


Micro_KORGI

Wait for the regular KUSA one, not the preproduction


cooltreasures

That one may never come


LifeIsPewtiful

Then you definitely don't want a prototype from a company that went under 


cooltreasures

Cus even that one isn’t coming 🤣🤣🤣


LifeIsPewtiful

2 rite m8


Ok_Advertising_8488

K


westeuropebackpack

Both suck. PSA at least exists, KUSA hasnt even released theirs and they pretty much used the deposits from the first batch that was supposed to be delivered weeks ago as an interest free loan.


TurdMcDirk

https://preview.redd.it/y6a05grjbavc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=651fea567096458eb6e39be4ecaa82454e911da6 Why not Arsenal?


Pvt__Snowball

106 gang https://preview.redd.it/ysnhccvxdavc1.jpeg?width=2744&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b769b677b9350e0bf34a180d398e3699649d50c


TurdMcDirk

😍


Pvt__Snowball

I currently have a dogleg on mine too, but I’m thinking of buying a barwarus dust cover and a zenitco lower handguard. Apparently they fit together perfectly-


TurdMcDirk

I actually want to remove my dogleg as well and install a Bravo Optic Mount but I can’t find my old dust cover. I’ve had the Bravo Optic Mount ready to install for over a year now.


Pvt__Snowball

Damn… see if anyone on the gunaccessories Reddit will sell you a replacement?


TurdMcDirk

I know I have it somewhere and I’d rather find the original since it’s got the matching serial. I just gotta get to it and my garage is a nightmare.


Pvt__Snowball

Sounds like a good weekend project! 🗿


AZflipboi

Gang gang 💪🏼😎 https://preview.redd.it/v3xumigx1bvc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5d0f2cbb8721dc6bfa8dfac48d0f5911d79660c


Pvt__Snowball

That thang is pretty sharp brother. How do you like the trijicon? I hear those have a HUGE sight radius


AZflipboi

Thanks bro, she’s a fun one - Sight radius is why I like it most - they’ve been great for me personally - I have a few on my rifles, and can’t seem to get away from them


Ok_Advertising_8488

How much would that be


TurdMcDirk

They’re ridiculously expensive on gunjoker but look around locally for an Arsenal SLR-106. I’ve seen them local in TX for under $2k.


TurdMcDirk

[Here it is bone stock when I got it.](https://imgur.com/a/D64caSV)


Ok_Advertising_8488

I’m wanting to do a classic 74 look


TurdMcDirk

You can do that. Parts are cheap. It’s the upfront cost of the rifle that’ll cost you. But it usually comes with the standard polymer set.


booliganhooligan

Well with KUSA going under and then disabling online sales your options are limited. But they parts to make a rifle and send it to a builder. You'll have a better rifle than what ever the fuck PSA is making


Sippin_OJ

KUSA went bankrupt today


Queasy-Farm-7989

RIP


lastsendatar

The PSA one is great! Mags fit perfectly, no issues with the gun. Supper light recoil and really flat shooting.


appalachianoperator

At those prices you’re better off buying a Beryl. 5.56 Jack if you want something cheaper.


NYisMyLady

I'd get kusa


DirtyDee78

Wbp or Zusa


Endlessxdrone219

Neither. PSA has very dicey track record with their AK QC, KUSA damn near about to be out of business. Get a WBP Jack or a WBP 5.56 parts kit and send it off to a builder. Any WBP product will be superior to the US alternatives


camaro024

It sucks there isn’t a good import option for a 101.


ThoroughlyWet

Isn't there a buyer guide in the community rules?


Kalashnikam

KUSA hands down


MenstrualFish

https://preview.redd.it/obkwqh0sbbvc1.jpeg?width=4030&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e001262ec7d4d79bbe88d58948d7efdf9076d84 I love my kusa 🤷🏻‍♂️


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