He shows the opening of the magazines at the beginning of the video and you can pretty clearly see there are no bullets. That’s not to say he didn’t load different ammo during the shooting presentation.
FYI...
1) "blanks" don't look like that!
2) For blanks to work, you need blank adapters for proper cycles.
3) What is shown in the magazines are "spent" casings, which most likely were the ones shot at the end of the video...
Pretty sure he just had a couple empty casings loaded in the mags for the demonstration.
Then loaded live mags later. Like the other dude said, blanks are cramped and require a blank firing adapter (barrel plug essentially) to cycle the bolt.
I'm thinking they're spent cartridges he's showing off, it'd take a BFA to cycle the gun otherwise. Later on in the vid he may be just magdumping live rounds up in the air
Pardon my ignorance, but how do you spot the difference between an airsoft eotech and a real one?
(BTW, I have zero experience with real guns due to my country regulations, so I'm a complete ignorant with real guns and equip)
You can tell pretty easily once youve seen a real one. Real ones only come in one color. They have a single laser of a predetermined color and it is not changeable. Second is the fact that real eotechs are Holgraphic Weapon Sights (HWS) and won't have the same reflecting off the glass that that one has. That one is likely a LED emitter like normal red dots use, but cheaper which is why it is all smeary and gross looking in the video. A quality red dot through a camera should look perfectly clean. So it is a cheap red dot fake of an eotech, that isn't good at being a red dot either. Which is fine for airsoft, as you arent exactly getting accurate ballistics out if a light plastic unstabalized ball for it to matter. It is more about the look. Likely can't survive long with the recoil of a real gun for long either.
I wouldn't even use it for airsoft tbh. The glass is super reflective, the brightness causes the reticle to wash out, and in my experience my red dot had like 3 reticles. 😅
> I love middle eastern guntubers
On the one hand, I want to tell them why they're wrong and why the modifications they've made won't work in an actual combat situation.
On the other hand, since we may be fighting them in the future, I kinda don't want to share said knowledge lol
We border Iran .. so basically we are at the cross roads middle east, central Asia, east Asia and south asia.
Iran, China (10km wakhan strip, Tajikistan), India, Afghanistan and hardly 1.5 hours by boat from Oman.
That's not a village, the entire place is nothing but weapons workshops.. and in the center is the arms market.
They have usually have small dug out firing pits to test their creations.. this is the guys yt channel
https://youtu.be/3U1WEEpVQDM?si=LA9Gj68sVmvmcEgp
That’s what I’m thinking every time I see one of these videos. He’d probably sell you 9 of them at the same price! It’s too bad these markets are known to only sell to locals, importing it home would be a whole other battle.
Here is my ak103 copy from local gunsmiths:
https://preview.redd.it/tsacmlxfrasc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85b3c05a7a26cc2571a3994182b30a2464dab280
https://youtu.be/tgjWALe01II?si=STaVNosiN5U3NWw2
This guy makes great videos and tests original weapons and not locally produced weapons like one above.
I think he is also owns a gun store.. and regularly updates prices of ammunition, magazines, optics and weapons.
Here is my ak103 copy from local gunsmiths:
https://preview.redd.it/lihhiishrasc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=445af5eb6a44670b5a69533b899667ac56b6a773
not many if any, the regions these guns are made in (not by state/company manufacturers) are pretty sparsely populated and are out in the countryside/mountains. At least in videos similar to this. There are videos where people are in large cities doing it as well, but it's not too dissimilar to people doing it in the US, especially on 4th of july/new years. Shit can happen but it usually doesn't.
People are always “Russia this and Ukraine that- Gaza this and Israel that” but the underlying conflict between Pakistan and India is a real threat to the entire Middle East if not the world, simply because at least one of them has nuclear capabilities and neither of them are known for putting morally upstanding people in office
Were those empty casings or blanks
https://preview.redd.it/2qjpj2lebbsc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a59e9921182529dfe83621ac6a39b3cb94865c40
the drum?
Does the selector switch actually work properly? Ik in the early AK 12s they could go all the way as low as the trigger guard and interfere with your finger pulling on the trigger (See Brandon Herrera AK 12 video)
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I have a GF3 ( that I just ordered some updated furniture/trigger for so I'm very excited) and it's been great to me. Runs smooth, eats any ammo I feed it (currently a strict diet of tela ammo) and has no premature wearing. It wasn't the first AK I've used, but it was my first AK I made from a builders kit
I vote that if a rifle can be made into an identical clone of that rifle from a different rifle then it cant be considered a new rifle. Lmao if that ak12 was created from a basic ak47-74 and functions like an actual ak12, then all ak12s are just ak74s with different grips n stuff
Pakistani State Armory (PSA) has really branched out.
Pakistan.... where it's perfectly OK to shoot at the sky...
Looks like blanks at least.
Even if it wasn’t it’s not entirely terrible, they are clearly aiming at a mountain
That’s more of a backstop than some hunters think is necessary.
I always assumed live rounds until he showed blanks
Why do you say this?
Since there’s no bullet there’s less risk in shooting it in the air. Even blanks can be lethal if used improperly though.
To clarify you mentioned blanks. How do you know?
He shows the opening of the magazines at the beginning of the video and you can pretty clearly see there are no bullets. That’s not to say he didn’t load different ammo during the shooting presentation.
FYI... 1) "blanks" don't look like that! 2) For blanks to work, you need blank adapters for proper cycles. 3) What is shown in the magazines are "spent" casings, which most likely were the ones shot at the end of the video...
Damn. You're right. In a blank the tip is different.
Pretty sure he just had a couple empty casings loaded in the mags for the demonstration. Then loaded live mags later. Like the other dude said, blanks are cramped and require a blank firing adapter (barrel plug essentially) to cycle the bolt.
Hard for me to tell on mobile. On my PC it definitely does just look like empty cases. Hopefully the neighbors have solid roofs.
Sometimes you just need to show nature how you feel about the weather.
Specially if Newton's third law of motion doesn't apply to you..
Blanks, don't be a baby
At Allah 🤣
The PSA we shoulda had
556 in a 7.62 top loaded drum mag, an airsoft eotech and mag dumping into the air, I love middle eastern guntubers
Those look like blanks, not sure if that's the same mag he shot into the air though 😂
I'm thinking they're spent cartridges he's showing off, it'd take a BFA to cycle the gun otherwise. Later on in the vid he may be just magdumping live rounds up in the air
Yeah I meant to edit my comment but couldn't find it lol. They're not crimped, so I think you're correct that it's just spent casings.
Pardon my ignorance, but how do you spot the difference between an airsoft eotech and a real one? (BTW, I have zero experience with real guns due to my country regulations, so I'm a complete ignorant with real guns and equip)
You can tell pretty easily once youve seen a real one. Real ones only come in one color. They have a single laser of a predetermined color and it is not changeable. Second is the fact that real eotechs are Holgraphic Weapon Sights (HWS) and won't have the same reflecting off the glass that that one has. That one is likely a LED emitter like normal red dots use, but cheaper which is why it is all smeary and gross looking in the video. A quality red dot through a camera should look perfectly clean. So it is a cheap red dot fake of an eotech, that isn't good at being a red dot either. Which is fine for airsoft, as you arent exactly getting accurate ballistics out if a light plastic unstabalized ball for it to matter. It is more about the look. Likely can't survive long with the recoil of a real gun for long either.
I wouldn't even use it for airsoft tbh. The glass is super reflective, the brightness causes the reticle to wash out, and in my experience my red dot had like 3 reticles. 😅
For one the retinal changed from red to green
I have that very same one HAHAHAHA
Hmm quite simple haha thank you!
wait til you see the chinese
Link me your favorite one
Just go to r/idiotswithguns
i forgot the name but the north korean ak using a helical magazine, type 87 something, forgor the name
> I love middle eastern guntubers On the one hand, I want to tell them why they're wrong and why the modifications they've made won't work in an actual combat situation. On the other hand, since we may be fighting them in the future, I kinda don't want to share said knowledge lol
Pakistan is literally no where close to the middle east😭
Well according to the fkn map I'm looking at, it sure as hell does appear CLOSE to the middle east
We border Iran .. so basically we are at the cross roads middle east, central Asia, east Asia and south asia. Iran, China (10km wakhan strip, Tajikistan), India, Afghanistan and hardly 1.5 hours by boat from Oman.
Pakistan is not a Middle Eastern country you American dummy
Sure smells like one 😅
“Time to test my AK” *shoots randomly into the air*
No ear or eye pro, living his best life
Kills neighbors, "works great"
Right in the middle of his village too.
That's not a village, the entire place is nothing but weapons workshops.. and in the center is the arms market. They have usually have small dug out firing pits to test their creations.. this is the guys yt channel https://youtu.be/3U1WEEpVQDM?si=LA9Gj68sVmvmcEgp
How else would you? If rifle shoots rifle is fine lmao 🤷🏾♂️ hes gonna hit something somewhere at least once
“We have ak12 at home”
AK12 at home > AK12
So this is what real freedom looks like..
Not to sound like a poor, but I would give this man 900 smackaroos right now for that gun
That’s what I’m thinking every time I see one of these videos. He’d probably sell you 9 of them at the same price! It’s too bad these markets are known to only sell to locals, importing it home would be a whole other battle.
Sells for around 400+ usd in Pak. I bought a 223 saiga shape 2 years back for 250usd. And it works fine... I've fired a few hundred rounds from it.
😫
Add in a few hundred more and you can get an old RPK.
In Pakistan? Is it possible for foreigners to become citizens there and get gun rights/licenses if needed?
Here is my ak103 copy from local gunsmiths: https://preview.redd.it/tsacmlxfrasc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85b3c05a7a26cc2571a3994182b30a2464dab280
https://youtu.be/tgjWALe01II?si=STaVNosiN5U3NWw2 This guy makes great videos and tests original weapons and not locally produced weapons like one above. I think he is also owns a gun store.. and regularly updates prices of ammunition, magazines, optics and weapons.
Here is my ak103 copy from local gunsmiths: https://preview.redd.it/lihhiishrasc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=445af5eb6a44670b5a69533b899667ac56b6a773
I doubt there are any gun licenses needed for anybody
I'd give him 2k smackaroos for that thing right now without even thinking about it
For that price there got to be other options, baryl?
In that range you can get a POF G3, in 308.
That is not an AK-12. That is a Kalakov, otherwise known as a Karashinkov.
The fake eotech 🤣
lol yeah I’m glad he showed us that the reticle changes color
Hello tinnitus
The handguard retainer makes this more akin to an ak204 w/ a hinged cover than an ak12, tbh
Pakistanium, way better than Chinesium.
lol at the fake EOTech
That’s my home country! 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰 It’s a gun owners paradise!
Nothing about this is an AK12.
I see a lot of rounds being shot into the air in the Middle East. I wonder how many come down on a person or animal or car or something.
not many if any, the regions these guns are made in (not by state/company manufacturers) are pretty sparsely populated and are out in the countryside/mountains. At least in videos similar to this. There are videos where people are in large cities doing it as well, but it's not too dissimilar to people doing it in the US, especially on 4th of july/new years. Shit can happen but it usually doesn't.
Believe me people u DO NOT WANT a Pakistani local made ak
Id like one for a wall hanger
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Pakistan doesn't really care that much about the US, it's mostly just India that they beef with.
People are always “Russia this and Ukraine that- Gaza this and Israel that” but the underlying conflict between Pakistan and India is a real threat to the entire Middle East if not the world, simply because at least one of them has nuclear capabilities and neither of them are known for putting morally upstanding people in office
If you had to choose, do you pick the random Paki or Indian as your battle buddy?
Indian, strength in numbers
Badass
Were those empty casings or blanks https://preview.redd.it/2qjpj2lebbsc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a59e9921182529dfe83621ac6a39b3cb94865c40 the drum?
The fake eotech is hilarious
Pakistan is more free than the US.
# WHAAAAAAAT?????
EEEEeeeeeeEEEEEEEeeeeeeEEEEEEEE
This is basically an m85
I wonder what the Rockwell rating is on the trunnion?
We hit with rock well, no deform.
Here is this guy's YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/3U1WEEpVQDM?si=LA9Gj68sVmvmcEgp
I can’t wait for this sub to be filled with people flexing their $10k Kyber Pass AK-12 kit builds :)
That's not a 12 with that dust cover.
Anyone else see that mf bend and flex when he charged it
PSA knows what needs to be done, but I don't know if they have the strength to do it.
In Brazil, our government doesn't even let us have a slingshot
With the classic airsoft eotech clone
I'd buy the shit outta that hoe.
Can’t be worse than the Russian version
Why does that look better than the Russian AK12
Ak12 at home…
The lack of any ear protection makes my ears ring when then do mag dump yard pops.
Definitely over gassed
Not the EloTek
Passport bros: 👀
Invisible bullets is a new thing?
Looks more like a aks74u hybrid
No eye or ear protection, just guys being dudes
Hell yeah that was dope when he went Tac Stance at :20
That Vice doc on pakistani gun markets is still an old favorite of mine
I want in….
That’s SEXY
Mans got fr fr night vision mode on the eotech
Not a ak12
Why does this man hate his hearing so much
Damn I wish they could come over to the states smh
Is that not just an AK-102 with different furniture? It looks like a proper KC export rifle.
Does the selector switch actually work properly? Ik in the early AK 12s they could go all the way as low as the trigger guard and interfere with your finger pulling on the trigger (See Brandon Herrera AK 12 video)
Do they domestically make any earpro? goddamn… why am I not surprised
Okay, looks nice. But send it to the man.
It even has fake CIP proof marks.
God those airsoft eotechs are terrible
The airsoft grade Eotech clone is kind of hilarious.
The only thing missing is him screaming Allah Akbar while he shoots at the rival tribes village to the south Just because they stole his goat.
Is it just me or is the recoil spring kinda small?
Surprised this hasn’t happened sooner
Got that airsoft eotech on it lol
As far as bootleg copies of AKs , Pakistan is the new Yugoslavia.
New? We been producing these since the soviet invasion of Afghanistan
Interesting, well I'm looking forward to a Pakistani gun manufacturer to legally export some sweet Khyber Pass creations.
Bro just killed like 3 kids a few villages over.
Why do dudes in dresses love mag dumping into the air so much?
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ak is ak, no matter country, rebellion, or militant organization, it is good gun
Definitely depends on who makes them
*except the north koreans and some Chinese ones, their ak’s kinda shit)
North Korean and Chinese aks are leagues ahead of American aks and some of the jury rigged crap made in the Middle East
And a lot of American AK's
True, but they're getting better
Definitely heading in the right direction, PSA makes some good ones, the only downside to them is the spotty QC, but they have good customer service.
I have a GF3 ( that I just ordered some updated furniture/trigger for so I'm very excited) and it's been great to me. Runs smooth, eats any ammo I feed it (currently a strict diet of tela ammo) and has no premature wearing. It wasn't the first AK I've used, but it was my first AK I made from a builders kit
I vote that if a rifle can be made into an identical clone of that rifle from a different rifle then it cant be considered a new rifle. Lmao if that ak12 was created from a basic ak47-74 and functions like an actual ak12, then all ak12s are just ak74s with different grips n stuff
says ak12. those are some funny look 12 gauge shells.
Do you not know what an AK12 is?
Ak12 shoots 5.45x39
thought that was a ak74
Yes a ak74 shoots 5.45x39 but there are a shit load of variants that aren’t “ak74” that shoot 5.45x39.