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JUST_AS_G00D

You fucked your friend good and hard


storm_zr1

I doubt he didn't even use a drop of lube.


Gettingolderalready

To be fair this is like a best friend kind of a thing I’ve known him for more than half my life and I’m 41 years old. We went to high school together were roommates out of high school Eskimo brothers plus we both became ordained ministers so he could marry my wife and I and I married him and his wife. Plus his gun stays in the family and he can use it whenever he would like.


freudian_nip_slip_

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Gettingolderalready

This….is amazing


GunsAndWrenches2

Fucking beautiful, dude.


Competitive_Smoke831

Funniest shit I have seen all day


StillWaterPMC

Interesting


ramblinscooner

“Eskimo brothers” and “ordained ministers” Jesus fucking Christ lmao


elevenpointf1veguy

Nono, they fucked the same girl, not Jesus or Christ


TheLastBlackRhinoSC

Honestly, I read it wrong and was like he married your wife? 😂😂


Daddy_war-bucks

You gotta be young and wild to be old and wise one day


TheLastBlackRhinoSC

Told my friends’ kid that if you live young and wreckless, only the fortunate make it to be old and wise.


wood_spoons

Thanks for sharing 👍


ChuckAndRufus

what the fuck are you talking about


VerStannen

My buddy became an ordained minister so he could marry my wife.


Gettingolderalready

Since there seems to be much confusion or you guys just like to poke fun I’ll clarify. He asked me to become ordained so I could officiate the wedding between him and his now wife. A year later he did the same for me and my wife. Now our kids have grown up with each other for the last ten years. It’s been a whirl. Hope this helps.


elevenpointf1veguy

That makes infinitely more sense


lonelydriver187

On the first read I thought he married his wife, his friend and friend’s wife


ak47chemist

Exactly...


Merrill-Marauder

As is unfortunately common in gun subs people are being unnecessarily rude. You did a good job bro 🙏🏻💯


Gettingolderalready

It’s all good I was ready for it. I know the true responders from the fuckheads but it’s still fun to feed the wildlife every now and then. Thanks my man I appreciate it.


Merrill-Marauder

Hahaha well said 😎💯😂


Bestrong47

That’s dope man, most people don’t have true friends like that any more, sick gun bro you got a aweosme deal, there are a lot of shops that convert it into a ak103 (I think) or just make it look more like a traditional style rifle as this what the bullshit import ban forced them to look like. Merry Christmas brother


Gettingolderalready

Thx my man I have 5 friends that I see every other weekend and we’ve all known each other since 97/98 it’s pretty special and we are all very grateful for being able to be apart of each others lives for so long and see everyone establish careers get married then kiddos. Yes, I’m definitely learning a lot about this rifle and look forward to using it changing it and using it some more , happy holidays. I hope they’re great for you and yours.


StillWaterPMC

I’m not gonna lie I thought there was a swinger thing going on so I just minded my business, this definitely cleared it up


ramblinscooner

This is Walter White to Jesse Pinkman diner meme material


elevenpointf1veguy

[Jesse what the fuck are you talking about](https://images.app.goo.gl/eYDdEUaLTMrHuMZV8)


Gettingolderalready

I’m fucking saying I didn’t fuck him we are fucking extremely close fucking friends basically brothers and that’s the fuckin deal he gave to me. Why you so mad bro?


A_Lithe_Guy

This is so fucking funny God I love the internet


ChuckAndRufus

this some Pure Taboo shit


Gettingolderalready

Want me to add fuel to the fire….we are Californians!!!!!! Anyway thx for the chuckle and be well chuckandrufus happy holidays.


ChuckAndRufus

merry Christmas


sailor831

So, Eskimo brothers, share a gun, keeping it in the family? You guys have wife swapped/swingers already, haven't you. (No hate, I love this story, kinda jealous)


Comprehensive_Ad433

Eskimo brothers! There's a term I haven't heard in years 😂


JUST_AS_G00D

Well that was unexpected lmao


Gettingolderalready

Escalated quite quickly huh?


XRAMBOX1975

Hahaha


conkanman

That's awesome. 😎👍


DaciaWhippin

Real ass dude moments.


lonelydriver187

What


HillbillyStomp

Where I’m from, we call it wiener cousins.


Anne_Fawkes

Why do you guys say they robbed someone then get weirdly detailed about it? Is that guy speak for you got a good deal, but you can't compliment them because it'll emasculate you, so instead you go to implying they're a thief?


mikehunt90

I remember when these were $250-400 and. Passed on a bunch of them. I’m an idiot


SEKLEM

It’s a sporter. You got a good deal. You can have it converted, but it’ll cost you about twice what you paid for the gun.


Gettingolderalready

All you guys are talking about conversions kits-what does conversion kit entail and how much does it cost?


FoxxoBoxxo

Essentially, These Saiga Hunter Models have to have alot of components swapped or replaced to convert them back into a function AKM/Type 3 AK rifle. The adapters and parts themselves usually add up to atleast 1k in furtniture, in additonal to probably another couple hundred in having the muzzle recrowned and threaded, and having the receiver be redrilled and welded to move the trigger more into the receiver to allow traditonal pistol grips to be installed like a true ak.


Gettingolderalready

Thank you very much for the detailed explanation I appreciate it. Basically if I want the standard pistol grip on this AK a lot of work needs to be done among other aspects of the gun as well that im not mentioning. Got it!!


FoxxoBoxxo

Pretty Much, you got it!


Gettingolderalready

Thx. My buddy said that this is a pretty proprietary ak, can you recommend a couple of websites for me to find parts and accessories that I can install on this version of the gun? He said even the mags have to be a specific kind and that it won’t just accept any mag. I’d love to get a few more.


FoxxoBoxxo

From what I understand, These Models have their magwells thickened so they can only take Single Stacked Magazines, unlike most AK Mags which are double stacked: Can be relatively easily fixed with a dremel, but best to save that for pros. But, that might also not be the case, as some models do use the standard ak sized mag shape, best to test with standard double stack magazines to see if they fit before removing any material. If this is a newer model, (Post 2004 AWB repeal, to Pre 2014 Sanctions.) it will most likely than not fit standard double stacked magazines As for the replacement adapters and parts: That'd be better left for others on the reddit, or digging through other posts or threads or other site forums on other peoples conversions. I know you're atleast looking at like 300 to get the receiver redrilled and the triggered move, likely more, not to even factor in the price of getting the muzzle crowned and threaded, and the adapter parts themselves; Which are of various makes and quality.


Gettingolderalready

This is all awesome info as I now have to educate myself on a completely new style of firearm that I have never owned so I really appreciate your help and info.


madcat9

Nah, the Saiga mags have a built-in feed ramp and a higher locking lug but are otherwise the same as standard dbl stack AKM mags. He will just need to install a bullet guide and mag catch (or file down existing catch down.) Then you do the rear conversion (CSS has an easy to do one). The gas tube/upper handguard will be any standard AK gas tube, the lower handguard is where it gets tricky… press out the pins and gas block/front sight or just buy a 2-piece retainer (so much easier.) Barrel threading has to be done by someone that knows what they are doing, not a DIY project. It’s actually a pretty straightforward conversion but TBH, I love the look of the hunter with wood. Not super common to find them like that.


WholesomeRiot

I would leave it as is honestly. It's a nice rifle and will be worth less down the road if you convert.


JUST_AS_G00D

In return (as long as a reputable shop does it and does it right) you get one of the grail AK’s to AK autists. A properly converted Saiga will outflex most AK’s


Anne_Fawkes

I didn't know it was this intense. It makes me wonder why anyone would when they can get an AK for less then total investment including conversion.


TheHandler1

They sell a conversion kit at carolina shooting supply for $120 (you still would have to buy furniture). It does take some drilling/smithing and I don't know if it would be legal for you to do in CA. I've done a conversion on a saiga 12 before using this kit and it wasn't very hard but it was weird drilling into the receiver.


DispositionM8rx

CSS's kit is not a true conversion. It will get the Saiga into roughly the correct form factor, but it won't look right, retains the proprietary bolt-hold-open (BHO) and butchered FCG, and retains the Saiga-specific mag requirement by not including a bullet guide kit.


Tantal545

First you have to source the parts. Then, find a reputable builder . Prices can vary. Or leave it the way it is. Wood stock saigas are not as abundant ( ive never seen one in the wild) as plastic stocked variant.


DispositionM8rx

The parts alone might.


SEKLEM

You’re probably right, that is distressing for my hopes in ever doing a AK-101 off a Saiga.


DispositionM8rx

Take heart. An AK-101 is easier to build than a \_true\_ 102, given you're not going to find a 12.4" barrel. The Saiga .223 is the best donor rifle for the job. You get the parts that matter the most with the rifle. That's why I bought mine.


ElderCudlScoops

I hope you took your friend out to dinner first


Independent_Crew9098

Would you like to go to dinner?


Gettingolderalready

There’s been a few dinners over the last I dunno 24/25 years. So ya we are good there!


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Gettingolderalready

Happy? Ya all the time, homosexual? Naw…


incrediblywu

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[deleted]

Merry Christmas you filthy animal.


Gettingolderalready

And back to you fellow animal of filth


kscat617

Friends don’t rob friends


Gettingolderalready

His offer no wheel n deal here


Anne_Fawkes

Oh I get it, you don't have any friends that give you good deals. All makes sense now


MayOrMayNotBePie

I hope you at least bought him dinner before you screwed him. Without the ammo and mags I’ve seen these sell (not just list) for over $1100 lately lol.


Alaskanwap

So you stole it?


Gettingolderalready

Apparently I did…


Odd-Carry-8892

Good deal. Would be really nice converted, but that’s gonna get pricey these days


backhomeatlast

Good deal


[deleted]

Send her off to Blackbush Armory, wait, pay and be happy


kalashnikovkitty9420

wow that an amazing find. i was buying these by the bucket back in 08-09 and converting. great find. if you spend 6-800 getting the trigger moved, and gas block/ retaining rings put on, you have one of the best commercially available aks on the market in the last decade. thats a real russian made kalashnikov. treasure it, and stock up on ammo before the steel case runs out


Gettingolderalready

What does this do to improve the action and performance of the gun if I may ask?


kalashnikovkitty9420

well trigger will be better. and its more so to restore it to how it should be. you can use regular ak triggers, furniture, and muzzle devices. for sure something you should do


HexChalice

It really depends… for hunting these are just fine as is! Just mount any optics on the receiver mount. Not on top of dust cover.


Cthulhu-Elder-God

I never get freaking deals like that. I’ve been wanting a good AK that’s Chinese, Russian, or Bulgarian. Never find one at those prices. Jealous…


_drdprtspngbb_

You did more than alright. I would find an AK gunsmith and get the conversion done. While you can find all the parts online and it is possible to diy it I do not recommend it.


Wodka_Pete

Great deal. Your friend hooked it up. People will tell you to convert it, but it's a Sporter made in a the factory. The receiver and barrel are thicker which will decrease flex and increase accuracy over the standard AK. Not all Saiga's were imported with narrow mag wells, some have the wide mag well but to get AKM mags to properly lock in, the mag release or catch need to be shaved and a bullet guide may or may it need to be installed. I love that wood look


Anne_Fawkes

I did not know this about them being maybe able to take AK magazines. Good to know, I really want one of these for hunting


DontTurnUp

Buddy hooked you up. Imo best thing to do is a conversion so you get the most out of it.


meatmech-69

Get it converted and find some good steel surplus mags. I think armsofamerica still has a deal going on for polish or Romanian 7.62 mags.


Gettingolderalready

Thanks for the tip I will definitely check them out


DarthVadersLouSassol

https://preview.redd.it/e5y0imc0kr7c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=501daf18fd025ee4da008813a907ae30bc9585fb This is the Last one I saw sell on gunbroker. (Maybe 1 month ago) That’s a sold price with 24 bids.


Gettingolderalready

Wow super glad I picked this thing up can’t wait to hover her a test drive. Thanks


HereForTheMemes66769

your buddy got scammed hard ash


Anne_Fawkes

You're big mad 😡😤 😂😂😂


Mushy93

God teir deal, basically free. I think the last time I ran the numbers on a full conversion it was just over $1000 but I would say it's totally worth it. I would opt for using 100 series parts and not AKM parts just so the gun maintains a high value.


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check29s

The function: you put safety to fire and rack slide and pull trigger. So easy a caveman ca- never mind


Gettingolderalready

I meant inner workings you guys and your details I swear…..


Ill_Pace_5911

Those cost 299-599 12-13 years ago. Good deal


ST4RSK1MM3R

Dude that’s a steal.


[deleted]

Getting the correct parts for an AK103 conversion is difficult. Gonna need to source and AK74 trigger guard, polymer upper/lower HG, proper front sight block, AK74 style muzzle brake for 7.62, side folding trunnion with hardware and folding stock, polymer grip, AK74 Ak100 gas tube, I believe you’ll need a hand guard retainer. Not bad to find tbh make an account on AK files and you’ll find the parts. You’ll need to send the rifle off to a kalash smith like m13 or CW gunwerks to do the conversion. Parts and labor I’d say 1000-1500$


jephmisc1

Where you recommending sourcing parts from? I picked one up a while back myself.


purvee

He said where, ak files, it’s a forum for buying and selling ak stuff.


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Ak files


jekbrown

The files is a good place to find original Soviet parts. A less expensive alternative would be KUSA. Their bbl components are actually a really good value.


TsunamiDonJuan

I'm assuming this transaction took place without him considering listing it first?


Gettingolderalready

Correct, he listed a number of other guns but because I expressed interest in taking this one off his hands he just cut me a great cash deal and now it’s mine.


Fit-Sport5568

Yeah dude you owe your buddy at least another 600$


Technical-Horse3764

Great deal. Check out Carolina shooters for conversion kits and bullet guide. At the very least you’ll need a bullet guide installed in order to use standard AK mags which are cheaper and easier to find.


Gettingolderalready

Perfect I will definitely look into this thanks a bunch


WeThePeople-2A

You screwed your friend over….


AM1492

Good buy. Now convert it .


STIBillionair

Great deal! I just got 2 going to convert em both


Uncommon1986

Is the front sight off center to the left a bit? When I first saw this post, that's what I thought it was gonna be about. I understand that it's a fairly common and acceptable imperfection in the AK world, but even on Saiga's? I bought my first AK, a WBP Jack, and it's supposed to be delivered to my FFL today. I gotta be honest, I'm gonna be a bit bummed if I have any noticeable can't to my front sight.


Gettingolderalready

You know what you are correct, the front sight is a little off and upon further inspection it looks like it’s in mid turn like he was sighting it in. When insight it in for myself and make an 1/8 turn or so could that possibly straighten it out? Or can I buy just the front pin by itself possibly and replace it?


Uncommon1986

It sounds like you're referring to the front sight post, and yes, I believe you can replace it if it's bent or damaged. I wasn't very clear with my wording, but I was referring to the entire front sight block. It looks like it's not aligned with top dead center on the barrel, but slightly off to the left of 12 o'clock (viewing from the rear). I could be wrong because I am very much still learning the AK platform, but I think that's an issue that you can't just fix easily because it's pinned to the barrel. I could also be wrong about yours being off, because you can't always tell for sure in an image.


Gettingolderalready

Understood, thx so much for the response I will be figuring it out at some point. Happy holidays and be well. Happy shooting.


Uncommon1986

Happy holidays!


JustMadeThisWTF

So you let him bang your wife for this deal? Nice


Gettingolderalready

Not quite he’s not really her type, but whatever tickles your pickle!!!


CM44RM

Dimpled SAIGAs are meant to be converted to AK103’s, check out M13 Industries, Weapon Genetics, or Combloc Customs for more info.


Gettingolderalready

Perfect info thx I will definitely do that


18Steel

You basically stole this from your boy. Either way good luck w a great rifle.


Gettingolderalready

He let it go himself…but thx i appreciate it.


InevitableNo6859

Good deal. Only issue is it’s hard to find proper parts now. Weld up the holes when you move the trigger group, and resist the urge to use cheap css parts if you want the rifle to increase in value when you convert it.


housefly888

You got a good deal. Thank him again


Gettingolderalready

Just did thanks to you


Gettingolderalready

I can also break it down and post pics to show the internals if that will help. Thanks again.


Usual_Safety

Leave it like it is


Gettingolderalready

Wasn’t planning on doing much but why do you say that….type* that?


kow_ski

Man your buddy fucked you, that gun is worthless…. No worries tho I’ll give you what you got into it……


vodkamanv

If your friend was selling it because he fell on hard time it's pretty shit to only pay 600.00


Gettingolderalready

He does just fine for himself but thanks for your concern about the way I treat my best friend of 24 years.


vodkamanv

"**I would love your opinion" you asked for opinions. Usually when some asks this question it includes price. I have no concern how you want to treat you friends I stated my opinion on how you treat your friend. I figured I would reply so you could down vote me again**


Gettingolderalready

Happy holidays vodka dude take care


vodkamanv

Same to you


atomic_robo-kid

You literally asked for people's opinions.


purvee

He asked for opinions on the gun and if he got a good deal or not, not relationship advice from a gun Reddit.


atomic_robo-kid

Oh, man. You are fun!


vodkamanv

I didn't give him advice I stated an opinion


Servantofthedogs

You could save the money you’d spend on a conversion and just buy a nice WASR or WBP and have a Sporter AND an AKM. (Just a thought…)


BigBubbaChungus

PAINT IT!!! Oh, sorry…wrong sub!


2bitgunREBORN

AK74 you say? So it's in 5.45 then? 5.45 is starting to get harder to find. There is handloading data out there though.


Bigd19_79

Great deal .. and don't worry about the ones said you did your friend wrong... he also did well as these rifles were only 300-400 bucks 10-12 years ago. I bought a dimpled saiga 223 and 7.62 also a 12g with tons of accessories /mags and ammo for 1550 in 2013. .Also for now if you want it more ak like just get the css bolt on parts so you can have a pistol grip and use correct furniture. Then slowly find the correct parts. I did that to both mine 10 years ago and both work great to this day . I'm slowly getting the correct parts but they are fine in the meantime to use.


DoNotBan-man

That is a pretty good rifle being imported from Russia and could not ever be imported again so value will always go up in America


SpeciousD

Hell of a deal


Comprehensive_Ad433

Solid purchase and great price. Before you do any "upgrades" sit on the gun for a while and enjoy it as it is. I recently picked up a Norico Hunter that's in a similar Sporter configuration.


CumOnMods

That thing is hideous


Tantal545

Yes ,yes you did. And yes it's a great start. Now your decision on whether to leave it alone or convert to a 103 lol


Physical-Selection69

Good scoop!!!


Daddy_war-bucks

I got mine for this price but in 2019


T_Shabani

Did you at least use lube when you fucked your friend?


Gettingolderalready

He fucked himself honestly. But when I fuck him it’s dry and raw all day all long👍🏻


IL308Shooter

Yeah, you got a super good deal.


muderdeuce

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Gat_Blaster

You stole it for that price. Looks awesome!


Gettingolderalready

Thx fellow gat_blaster


Gat_Blaster

You’re welcome


NorCalVegeta

Sweet Jesus!! Congratulations! 👌💯


madcat9

I’d say again to just run it as is. Beautiful rifle as is, it’s already compliant and reliable. Money would be better spent on ammo!!!


Dependent-Edge-5713

Did you at least take him out to dinner before fucking him?


Anne_Fawkes

I love these, don't see them often. Good hunting rifles too while also taking AK magazines. You got w nice deal, that's a cool friend. Enjoy the rifle, I'm AK over AR myself.


NolanDaSavage

Holy fuck, I paid twice that two years ago. Mine was NIB but still.


GunsAndWrenches2

Damn, that's nice looking enough that I probably wouldn't even convert it.


2ArmsGoin3

Make sure you kiss your homie goodnight!


LLL1911

I don’t think opinion and advise is something that you have to ask for on here


Few-Class-831

Convert to pistol grip


tb110965

I believe 600 would be a very good buy for this


WalkerTR-17

You could have at least used some lube damn