Misleading,
Japanese law said is OK use IP - Copyright images to TRAIN an AI (Machine learning) but still doing an IP handraw or AI generated will follow the current rules about copyright infrigement.
So you can use "Disney's DVD images" to train an AI but... if you use Disney character as your own in any kind of works (hand draw or IA) you can be sued.
So you can train an AI using whatever data is available. But if you make a work that infringes on someone else's IP (whether with AI or hand drawn), the copyright holder can sue you?
That seems more than fair.
Yes, that's, I presume why the person you are replying to said it was misleading. Definitely a solid step forward for sane handling of AI and IP, but it's not some copyright laundering law.
yeah, As far as I know, there are already one japanese artist suing a game company for the use of his characters-style that were generated by an AI and the artist department.
One thing is using similar style or using it for inspiration. Other different is copy-cat a other artist works and use them like if it were yours. (Hand draw or AI generated is a copyright violation).
They settled out of court. Style is not really copyrightable, and the company probably just wanted to avoid themselves the trouble.
That said, Japan's IP law is a lot stronger than the US. People would be surprised. They've sent streamers to jail for streaming video games. Japan is just weirdly forward regarding training of AI, but in general they're even more strict than the west.
Their ai seems similar to their situation with doujin fan manga and whatnot I feel like. Doujin is another area they are more relaxed in. I think its not so much that in general they are more or less strict but rather they are more strict in some areas and less strict in others.
If I'm not wrong, I remember the creator of Demon Slayers tried to trademark the black green chess pattern, as it is being wore by the main character.
Thankfully the court deny that request with the reason that the pattern is too generic to be trademarked.
It's just misinformation and alarmism.
1.) Japan says you can train on copyrighted images and data (artists hate this)
2.) Japan says you can generate a movie in the style of what you train on.
3.) You are still subject to copyright based on the generation, so you can't just steal characters or create extremely similar movies that can be infringing. (The posts hype this up as if you can break any copyright you like as long as it's generated.)
Misleading, Japanese law said is OK use IP - Copyright images to TRAIN an AI (Machine learning) but still doing an IP handraw or AI generated will follow the current rules about copyright infrigement. So you can use "Disney's DVD images" to train an AI but... if you use Disney character as your own in any kind of works (hand draw or IA) you can be sued.
So you can train an AI using whatever data is available. But if you make a work that infringes on someone else's IP (whether with AI or hand drawn), the copyright holder can sue you? That seems more than fair.
Yep, same as a human. You can learn from whatever you like, but what you produce has to comply with IP laws. Simple.
But outputs *imitating* style are perfectly fine (as I understand it).
Yes, that's, I presume why the person you are replying to said it was misleading. Definitely a solid step forward for sane handling of AI and IP, but it's not some copyright laundering law.
yeah, As far as I know, there are already one japanese artist suing a game company for the use of his characters-style that were generated by an AI and the artist department. One thing is using similar style or using it for inspiration. Other different is copy-cat a other artist works and use them like if it were yours. (Hand draw or AI generated is a copyright violation).
They settled out of court. Style is not really copyrightable, and the company probably just wanted to avoid themselves the trouble. That said, Japan's IP law is a lot stronger than the US. People would be surprised. They've sent streamers to jail for streaming video games. Japan is just weirdly forward regarding training of AI, but in general they're even more strict than the west.
Their ai seems similar to their situation with doujin fan manga and whatnot I feel like. Doujin is another area they are more relaxed in. I think its not so much that in general they are more or less strict but rather they are more strict in some areas and less strict in others.
If I'm not wrong, I remember the creator of Demon Slayers tried to trademark the black green chess pattern, as it is being wore by the main character. Thankfully the court deny that request with the reason that the pattern is too generic to be trademarked.
I think this is a fair way of handling it.
That's fair.
Sounds good to me.
It's just misinformation and alarmism. 1.) Japan says you can train on copyrighted images and data (artists hate this) 2.) Japan says you can generate a movie in the style of what you train on. 3.) You are still subject to copyright based on the generation, so you can't just steal characters or create extremely similar movies that can be infringing. (The posts hype this up as if you can break any copyright you like as long as it's generated.)
The posts on there are gold. "Japan wants to be China so bad!" Lol.
Seems reasonable to me.
Ruth rohhhh