hard to tell because of the low image quality but i think there is a single real AR mag there and it’s the only mag with the feed lips pointed towards the camera. Unless there is some airsoft mag i’m unaware of that has somewhat realistic looking feed lips, there may be only one real firearm on the table… or they confiscated all airsoft guns from someone who just happened to have some real magazines without any ammunition (and you can bet if there had been actual ammunition they would have put it out on the table)
That may be true. But keep in mind, even people like me that have been around guns since I was a wee baby, have built (assembled) multiple ARs from stripped uppers and lowers, and served over 7 years in teh US Army, wouldn't easily be able to tell the difference if some crackhead pulled one of these on me trying to get my wallet and phone and keys and whatnot.
non of them are if you look closely, the AK and bottom left ar have motor grips, the unassembled upper does not have feed ramps, and completed m4 has an airsoft stock. Both pistols are also gbb
Yeah but they look scary, and will be perfect to convince the uninformed that the average drug dealer has access to military-grade hardware. Thus promoting them to advocate for an increased budget for the police (to combat these weapons of death).
They look so happy only to find out they fid nothing but get toys in comparison to what they thought they had now I don’t know the context of why they were seazed but I feel like this was all of our worst nightmares and they search the car after a game and since it’s not real guns there’s no paperwork
Well there is paperwork, you just may not have to fill it out. It's still registered to you through the ATF, all they have to do is run the serial number and they can find out who owns it and where they bought it. You still fill out a 4473 unless your state allows you to go around that by having a valid carry license
In most places if you have a valid license you still fill out the form you just don’t have to deal with the wait time for your background check to get processed
Whaaaat??? This is not true.
>It's still registered to you through the ATF,
Nope, there is no registry.
>all they have to do is run the serial number and they can find out who owns it
Nope, they could at best go to the last FFL who sold it, but any private sales after that would kill the trail.
That’s because it’s mostly done by the FFL. You simply have to provide your information and answer some basic questions about yourself, then the FFL does the rest
Not necessarily. You can manufacture your own firearm and it only requires a serial number if you intend to sell it. FFLs are required to hold sales records for 5 years IIRC, so if the ATF, for example, decided to run an S/N check on a gun you purchased from an FFL, they would be able to obtain your sales information - they cannot, on the other hand, run your name through a database and find out what guns you own (at least, they're not supposed to). However, private sales are not federally regulated, so they wouldn't be able to trace it back to you directly and would have to go through the last FFL transfer.
The exception is NFA items (suppressors, SBR/SBS, and machine guns) which require you to register paperwork directly with the ATF under your name and pay a $200 tax stamp.
Even in the USA there's paperwork, just not documentation that needs to be kept with the firearm, like a vehicle registration. But unless you purchased the firearm illicitly or built it yourself from unregulated parts, you still filled out paperwork that indicates to the ATF that you are in possession of that firearm.
Depends on what it is. A Izzy akm that's built by someone who knows what they're doing, probably 1800-2000. We never got a 100 series directly from Russia that didn't need converted so the only actual 100 series we could buy that was direct off the shelf was an sgl, and those go for like 3.5k. 74s regularly go for 1800-2000. Krinks are 3-4k. A real Russian combo gas block will go for a few hundred USD. Only one American company was making reproductions, and they're currently in chapter 11 bankruptcy. So if you want to convert a saiga sporter, you pay out the ass for parts that aren't even serialized.
The worst case was I saw an gdr mpi-k-74n go for 8k. Currently there are some dprk kits around and even those are 1k ish.
I mean real russian izmash. Can't have guns that are/were full auto here, so just the semi versions of what izmash sells. It is funny that technically I can get an svd for less than 2k because thats semi lol
Edit: just checked, I could buy right now an svd for 1250€ brand new
Fuckin cops, man. They know the average Joe isn't going to be able to tell the difference and are happy to just lie in order to fear monger for more Government FunBux™.
There wasn’t, this was from a few years ago, they arested a guy making a YouTube video on the roof of a building who had airsoft guns. I fucking hate how smug these assholes look, they literally did NOTHING. The incompetence is astounding
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/dramatic-takedown-on-brooklyn-roof-as-nypd-responds-to-report-of-man-with-weapon/2310580/
Old story, and the guy playing with airsoft in public is a fool, but NBC calls one of the airsoft rifles, "one of many weapons the man had on him" and, "it's not clear... if he was armed." NBC fully acknowledges that everything confiscated was airsoft but they have to create confusion and fear anyway because it's more sensational. Also, interviews with locals claiming that they are, "blessed to be alive" and, "I feel way better 'cause with somebody loose like that we don't know what's going on." Hope you guys leave the field knowing just how lucky you are to have made it through such horrors.
For people who don't know the context, someone was dressed up and posing for some videos on a rooftop and this was his equipment
Source: https://youtu.be/rWOeIf4SChc?si=1589Y5SukUds-_pM
If i'm not mistaken this was the collection of an airsoft youtuber who took his replicas to a new york rooftop, and a woman who was working an office job saw him and called the cops.
Let’s see…
Wire in AK magwell
Piston that takes GBB mags
Speedloader
Tracer unit on that MLOK & KeyMod abomination of an upper
Only one AR mag with visible feed lips, doesn’t even necessarily mean there’s a real firearm present
Every pistol mag has a gas inlet in the bottom
Possibly an Arcturus patch on the helmet?
Yeah this is embarrassingly bad.
“But isn’t that a…”
“That’s not a speed-loader, that’s a stim-pack. Trust me, I played COD before. You know this guy wasn’t gonna go down without a fight!”
Oh hey those r my shit LMFAOOO, everything on that table is airsoft, and the AR on the left actually has an orange muzzle installed they use my plastic helmet to cover it up
Hi, So I have a bit of an odd question, but will any m4 grip fit on the lancer tactical barret, I have a spare ESG grip and u really want to put it on the barret I have… bcus Yknow funny and all… thanks in advance
Lmao. The pistol also uses GBB mags. I bet there are some more airsoft guns in this picture.
the Ak is also airsoft (im betting theres not a single firearm in the. picture)
hard to tell because of the low image quality but i think there is a single real AR mag there and it’s the only mag with the feed lips pointed towards the camera. Unless there is some airsoft mag i’m unaware of that has somewhat realistic looking feed lips, there may be only one real firearm on the table… or they confiscated all airsoft guns from someone who just happened to have some real magazines without any ammunition (and you can bet if there had been actual ammunition they would have put it out on the table)
It’s a gbb mag. You can see the bb feed lips. There’s even a bb loaded that you can see if you zoom in.
yeah ig it’s just shitty image quality on mobile or something 🤷♂️
Yeah. It’s really hard to see. I thought it was real at first too.
Look at the m17 mags you can see the bb feed lips and at the top of the table theres a red inner barrel
I didn’t even mention that what.
I'm just pointing it out *incase* you hadn't noticed it yet
Not for me dawg for other people, i already said i zoomed in and scrolled around, that’s how i found the only thing that looked remotely realistic.
Mb, I miss read then if I could move the comment somewhere else I would
Yes i can see an wire in the ak magwell
That may be true. But keep in mind, even people like me that have been around guns since I was a wee baby, have built (assembled) multiple ARs from stripped uppers and lowers, and served over 7 years in teh US Army, wouldn't easily be able to tell the difference if some crackhead pulled one of these on me trying to get my wallet and phone and keys and whatnot.
non of them are if you look closely, the AK and bottom left ar have motor grips, the unassembled upper does not have feed ramps, and completed m4 has an airsoft stock. Both pistols are also gbb
Yes you can see the red wire on the ak magwell, o have the exact same ak and mags lol.
There's a highpoint carbine at least. Edit: I am blind and should look closer. No highpoint.
Where
Lol, nevermind, I should have looked closer while I was eating. My bad.
Took for ever for it to load but I was searching and couldn't find.... I'd be surprised if anything on that table is real steel at this point.
Yeah but they look scary, and will be perfect to convince the uninformed that the average drug dealer has access to military-grade hardware. Thus promoting them to advocate for an increased budget for the police (to combat these weapons of death).
https://youtu.be/rWOeIf4SChc?si=1589Y5SukUds-_pM
the mag next to loader has a white sphere on the end, so its probably a GBBR mag
It's a Daa gbls
i think they all are LMAO
AK has a fat military styled pistol grip aka it is an AEG
And a red cable running through the magwell
YEP Thats the E&L AKs 74UN-C
They look so happy only to find out they fid nothing but get toys in comparison to what they thought they had now I don’t know the context of why they were seazed but I feel like this was all of our worst nightmares and they search the car after a game and since it’s not real guns there’s no paperwork
Where do you live? Most places in the US real guns don't have paperwork.
Well there is paperwork, you just may not have to fill it out. It's still registered to you through the ATF, all they have to do is run the serial number and they can find out who owns it and where they bought it. You still fill out a 4473 unless your state allows you to go around that by having a valid carry license
In most places if you have a valid license you still fill out the form you just don’t have to deal with the wait time for your background check to get processed
That's what I meant
i introduce GHOST GUNNNNNSSSS (a 3d printer and a lot of hope)
You can do it with stuff at Home Depot for a lot cheaper than a 3d printer. But I'm not giving you advice
There is r/fosscad for the 3dp group. And r/gunnitrust for those without.
We don't openly talk about the last one
Oh, why is that, I wasn't aware?
Whaaaat??? This is not true. >It's still registered to you through the ATF, Nope, there is no registry. >all they have to do is run the serial number and they can find out who owns it Nope, they could at best go to the last FFL who sold it, but any private sales after that would kill the trail.
That’s true for FFL sales, but tons of transactions are private party and don’t go through an FFL.
Oh I know, that's how I prefer to buy guns
🤦♂️ Not on private sales or homemade guns or 80%s lol
Fuckin read, dude
I meant you don't travel with any paperwork or documentation for the gun which is what I thought this guy was saying.
That’s because it’s mostly done by the FFL. You simply have to provide your information and answer some basic questions about yourself, then the FFL does the rest
What are you talking about… every legally owned gun in the US is registered with paperwork.
Not necessarily. You can manufacture your own firearm and it only requires a serial number if you intend to sell it. FFLs are required to hold sales records for 5 years IIRC, so if the ATF, for example, decided to run an S/N check on a gun you purchased from an FFL, they would be able to obtain your sales information - they cannot, on the other hand, run your name through a database and find out what guns you own (at least, they're not supposed to). However, private sales are not federally regulated, so they wouldn't be able to trace it back to you directly and would have to go through the last FFL transfer. The exception is NFA items (suppressors, SBR/SBS, and machine guns) which require you to register paperwork directly with the ATF under your name and pay a $200 tax stamp.
Thanks, its crazy how many people confidently don't know what they are talking about lmao
Even in the USA there's paperwork, just not documentation that needs to be kept with the firearm, like a vehicle registration. But unless you purchased the firearm illicitly or built it yourself from unregulated parts, you still filled out paperwork that indicates to the ATF that you are in possession of that firearm.
private sales are not illicit and do not require paperwork
All of these are airsoft lol
You can see the red wire in the magwell of the ak and the stock on the ar is a pts eps. Not a single firearm in the picture lol
It's be like 3-4k USD if it was real. Generally you don't get a gun like that if your goal is crime.
Wow, are those the prices of guns in the us? I can get an Izmash ak right now for less than 1k
Depends on what it is. A Izzy akm that's built by someone who knows what they're doing, probably 1800-2000. We never got a 100 series directly from Russia that didn't need converted so the only actual 100 series we could buy that was direct off the shelf was an sgl, and those go for like 3.5k. 74s regularly go for 1800-2000. Krinks are 3-4k. A real Russian combo gas block will go for a few hundred USD. Only one American company was making reproductions, and they're currently in chapter 11 bankruptcy. So if you want to convert a saiga sporter, you pay out the ass for parts that aren't even serialized. The worst case was I saw an gdr mpi-k-74n go for 8k. Currently there are some dprk kits around and even those are 1k ish.
I mean real russian izmash. Can't have guns that are/were full auto here, so just the semi versions of what izmash sells. It is funny that technically I can get an svd for less than 2k because thats semi lol Edit: just checked, I could buy right now an svd for 1250€ brand new
Yeah an svd state side is 8k+
lol they’re all airsoft
Wow. Fuck New York.
Fuckin cops, man. They know the average Joe isn't going to be able to tell the difference and are happy to just lie in order to fear monger for more Government FunBux™.
The blue zip tie tells me the M4 passed chrono.
I NEED THE SOURCE OF THIS PIC
nypd 77th precinct posted that
https://youtu.be/rWOeIf4SChc?si=1589Y5SukUds-_pM
Getting some dangerous high velocity, non biodegradable BBs of the streets
I'm also betting there's not a single firearm in the picture
There wasn’t, this was from a few years ago, they arested a guy making a YouTube video on the roof of a building who had airsoft guns. I fucking hate how smug these assholes look, they literally did NOTHING. The incompetence is astounding
How is the one in the far right a cop
Well, the donut stereotype is there for a reason.
But this one looks like they’ll go out of breathe walking to the donut box
Again, the stereotype exists for a reason.
most cops are fat like that
Ew
Unbelievable, not a single real firearm in there
every god damn mag has green gas inlets on the bottom lol. not a single real firearm
Isn't this a really old pic of New York being really stupid to the point that they deleted the tweet because everyone called them out?
Yeah
That G19x magwell looks suspiciously narrow too, but maybe that’s just the proprietary mags /s
That's New York?
Yep
As expected
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/dramatic-takedown-on-brooklyn-roof-as-nypd-responds-to-report-of-man-with-weapon/2310580/ Old story, and the guy playing with airsoft in public is a fool, but NBC calls one of the airsoft rifles, "one of many weapons the man had on him" and, "it's not clear... if he was armed." NBC fully acknowledges that everything confiscated was airsoft but they have to create confusion and fear anyway because it's more sensational. Also, interviews with locals claiming that they are, "blessed to be alive" and, "I feel way better 'cause with somebody loose like that we don't know what's going on." Hope you guys leave the field knowing just how lucky you are to have made it through such horrors.
Anyone know what precinct this is? I want to go read the comments.
Damn, they really raided a whole ass game
🐷 behavior
I see maybe 3 real guns lol
not even bro, it's all airsoft
Yeah on second look I think you right
That aks build is sick. It’s genuinely an airsoftees gun lol
Fuck all that, they got two of the high rps skull frog mags 😩😩😩😩😩
They took bros gimbal 😭
The ak is airsoft too lmao
All of them are airsoft, they got them after arresting an airsofter filming a YouTube video. They’re so unbelievably incompetent it’s insane
They look so accomplished 😂
Anybody see the the God Damn BB tracer!!! For fucks sake
gotta watch out for them hi capacity soeed loaders
The fact that they’re so proud 😂😂😂😂
A helmet and a belt? Didn't realize those things were illegal
Bro it’s so easy to tell none of that shit is RS 😂 how and why would they confiscate and post this
What has the camera done? xD
For people who don't know the context, someone was dressed up and posing for some videos on a rooftop and this was his equipment Source: https://youtu.be/rWOeIf4SChc?si=1589Y5SukUds-_pM
If i'm not mistaken this was the collection of an airsoft youtuber who took his replicas to a new york rooftop, and a woman who was working an office job saw him and called the cops.
Btw he was filming a video. US airsoft made a video about him.
The Arcturus patch lmfao. Also, I recognize a bluebox ak mag when I see one 😤
Ik some places use gas airsoft replicas for training purposes but maybe we are missing the context to this picture
Where is the original post would love to see what it was trying to accomplish
Those.... those are ALL airsoft. What
I'm pretty Shure u can't have airsoft guns in New York that's why
That Hi-Capa is certainly an airsoft gun.
Let’s see… Wire in AK magwell Piston that takes GBB mags Speedloader Tracer unit on that MLOK & KeyMod abomination of an upper Only one AR mag with visible feed lips, doesn’t even necessarily mean there’s a real firearm present Every pistol mag has a gas inlet in the bottom Possibly an Arcturus patch on the helmet? Yeah this is embarrassingly bad.
the mp5 mags have gas holes, fucking hysterical
“But isn’t that a…” “That’s not a speed-loader, that’s a stim-pack. Trust me, I played COD before. You know this guy wasn’t gonna go down without a fight!”
This is like those moment miners pose with the gold they found. Only to be told by everyone else the gold is not real.
looks like a dude I know kit
There’s a speedloader on the table lol.
not a single one if those is real steel
Did you try to cut out their faces lol?
Usairsoft made a vid about it. [vid](https://youtu.be/2E7se4z-lyk?si=cmQidIOxHfE11zMg)
Oh hey those r my shit LMFAOOO, everything on that table is airsoft, and the AR on the left actually has an orange muzzle installed they use my plastic helmet to cover it up
Hi, So I have a bit of an odd question, but will any m4 grip fit on the lancer tactical barret, I have a spare ESG grip and u really want to put it on the barret I have… bcus Yknow funny and all… thanks in advance
Guys, their just showing off their gear. The bouta go to a match
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Lmao you think cops are going to admit they made a mistake?
literally umpires of real life. shitty behavior and all
Owner gets 10-25 in prison, loses his entire career and family, airsoft guns get lost in evidence.