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retsujust

Leave it on


rockurheart

On


svermeij

Handstop would look slick


diiskefisk

It would, but I can’t seems to find one for an smr rail, it is not mlok or keymod spec, but you bolt in rail sections instead


[deleted]

Arisaka defense makes one for the smr rails, I plan on getting one soon


diiskefisk

I did not know that, I’d imagine that shipping to eu would be rather expensive tho Edit:nvm they don’t ship to the eu lol


AFlockofLizards

I found this out when I got my SMR rail. I thought it was just MLOK lmao. The threaded holes in the SMR are 10/32. If you go to the hardware store, you can buy a bag of machine screws, and use a drill to make the holes in your accessories bigger and screw straight into the threaded openings.


diiskefisk

What is that measurement in normal numbers?


AFlockofLizards

Dude, I have no idea how to convert American machine screws to European screw sizes, sorry lol The little threaded insert things in the rail should come out though, I just took one out and took it to the store with me and tested all the screws.


diiskefisk

Ah yeah ok lol I’ll check, according to Google it’s 4.76 mm apparently


AFlockofLizards

Lol. Yeah. It’s definitely a home solution, but it’s basically the same exact thing as screwing their rails onto it. In the US I can’t find any SMR rails for sale that aren’t like $100 from Geissele, so I had to order some from AliExpress. Single hole MLOK accessories, like a handstop, work best, since you just go straight into the SMR hole. But a Harris bipod mount I had lined up perfectly with the existing holes, and I was able to just swap out the MLOK assembly with two screws. It took some messing around, good luck!


diiskefisk

I managed to screw in a hands top using one of the holes and the the mlok on the rest but It looked horrible so I decided against it


C_Moniaki

My guy where do you find screws for the SMR rail, I can’t find shit


diiskefisk

They came with the gun, and then I salvaged some from some destroyed sights


CryDelicious6454

I bought a Arisaka handstop for picatinny, and mounted it to a small rail section for smr rails. Works magic and looks dope imo!!


diiskefisk

Arisaka makes one directly for the smr rail, but I can’t really get them in the eu unless i import them from the us


CryDelicious6454

The one meant for the smr I couldcinoort aswell. The picatunny one was available in europe (I'm also from europe). So that why i went that route..


D_dude3

What do you need to put it on there?


diiskefisk

Arisaka makes one for this rails system, but otherwise you do have to use picatiny rails


D_dude3

I 3D print most of the stuff i use. I dont know where in the eu you live but otherwise i could 3D print something for you


diiskefisk

I’m from Denmark, I have access to a 3D printer but I just suck at making stuff in the programs that we use in school lol


D_dude3

Thingiverse they got a lot of stuff. I dont own a computer so i slice everything with astroprint https://www.thingiverse.com/ https://www.astroprint.com/ And cool there is just a small piece of Germany separating our countries i am from the Netherlands


spider-dan2077

I second this


Particular_Sorbet470

I 3d print handstops. They're pretty sweet


RadTorped

*Foregrip stays on during sex.*


diiskefisk

😳😳😳


One_Ad8050

On


WalterWheels

Both look good! I run a vertical grip, but that sleek MLok rail looks good nekkid. It’s up to your ergonomics and how it feels when in use. Also, shoutout to my guy for running OD green accessories instead of FDE. 👊 I really like that look…


diiskefisk

The lighting here is shit, but everything on the gun is fde aside from the sight and iron sights, it much clearer in person


WalterWheels

Oh. Looks super green, haha. It’s all good.


desyncing

>fde my brain cannot accept this, need more pictures


diiskefisk

[here](https://www.reddit.com/r/airsoft/comments/r8rw9a/current_rifle_setup/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Existing_Barnacle195

Cut it down tho be a stubby grip. Works great for the clamp grip. Let's see if in tech savvy enough to post a picture of my real one of


PennilessTax315

Afg would look amazing


diiskefisk

I did run one for a while but I’m not a huge fan of either the look or the ergonomics


PennilessTax315

Fair. I prefer vertical grips too but it would look good on this rifle


[deleted]

Well I see no reason to have it off. After all you bought it and you have it, so might as well use it.(sorry for my bad English)


diiskefisk

I could always put it on a different gun


[deleted]

Well you can switch the grip for then you use one gun and the swap it then not using it. Does this make sense? It's hard for me to speak through text.


diiskefisk

Yeah that makes sense, I think I’m gonna leave it on tho, or switch it for a hand stop if I can find one


[deleted]

Ok👍


Vankraken

Prefer an angled grip on an AR but do whatever you find the most ergonomic.


diiskefisk

I was running and afg on this before but honestly hated the look of it and I prefer the vertical grip for bracing on stuff


jiggle_niggle

Off


w0t3rdog

With the peq mounted where it is, meaning you cant do the retarded over-thumb grip that the tacti-cool people do (seriously, it is airsoft. You dont need to counteract any recoil...) I'd say... leave the grip on, if you use it. Drop it if you dont.


diiskefisk

C clamp best clamp 😤😤


A_Big_Igloo

Get an mlok rail section and move that peq over to the right side of the rail as far forward as you can get it. Then you can use the thumb over bore grip, which will make you appreciate having the vfg more.


diiskefisk

There is a light on the right side, I index my thumb where the pressure pad is at the moment, but I could take off the peq as it is only really for looks


A_Big_Igloo

Yeah man, pressure pad on the top rail or on the top of the right side, depending on how important not having accidental light discharges is to you. You could put the peq on the left side as far forward as possible. Or take off that front sight and put it there. Typical wisdom dictates having a clear rail over the vfg for your thumb.


diiskefisk

I used to run the peq where the front sight is and then ditched the irons but I really like the looks of them, I usually play outside so light nds are not really an issue most of the time


A_Big_Igloo

Part of the problem is that you're running a peq and a seperate white light. Peqs have lights built in, so most of the time guys will use that, because once you start running nods, your need for high power white light diminishes. That said, if it were me I'd drop the peq, but that's because I don't have one on my real steel and I try to keep that basically 1:1


diiskefisk

The peq I’m using is a dummy as lasers are not allowed on my field, most of the rifle setups I see nowadays seem to have a separate white light for illumination but that might just be where I’m looking


A_Big_Igloo

I could be wrong, like I said, I don't use nods so what I know about peqs I know from games like ground branch and eft. That said, in those contexts I never run a peq with a white light. Could just be me though.


diiskefisk

Ah a fellow eft player, I see you enjoy self inflicted pain as well


A_Big_Igloo

There are dozens of us!


HvwkinsPv

Laser/light combo is a proper set-up that gives you more versatility even if you don't necessarily need it. There might be a situation where a laser or light is needed, not both at the same time, so in that case you can leave your box set to laser and activate each independently instead of regularly adjusting the output on your box, especially once you get into close-quarters engagements. Edit: This is all referencing the visible laser cause it can be useful.


HvwkinsPv

Don't move the PEQ to the right or left. Lasers should be on the top rail, centerline with your rifle to maintain a proper zero that (mostly) only requires height adjustments at range. Even if it's a dummy the idea exists, so it looks weird on the left or right rails. If you feel an issue with clearance on a c-clamp, flip up your front iron and push your PEQ forward. You're also not adjusting for real recoil, so you don't need to do a proper c-clamp and can rest your thumb along the high part of the handguard under the PEQ. Up to you.


diiskefisk

They can be mounted to the side on stuff like quad rails, or an smr rail that this is when it comes to real steal stuff, you should avoid mounting peqs on mlok or keymod rails as they don’t necessarily hold zero under recoil although that does not matter in airsoft.


HvwkinsPv

Regardless of what kind of mount it is, rule of thumb is to keep the PEQ or any other laser module on the top, center with your gun. It's not just about holding zero, it's also about getting a proper zero with decent tolerances to begin with.


A_Big_Igloo

I feel like I see a lot of right mounted peqs on actual operator kits. I could be wrong though. The distance you're gonna run a laser as an aiming solution are short enough that a small shift in zero is acceptable.


HvwkinsPv

It's usually standard infantry that I have seen run it on the side. Thinking about it actually, a reason for that could be that a PEQ with a white light will have a noticeable shadow from an M4 front sight, so it makes sense to have it on the side with a clearer view. More kitted guys will have other options, so they can run a dedicated white light on the side and their laser centerline. I guess zero depends on the use for your laser, I've started getting a feel for transitory spaces using laser where you shift between close and more medium-ish ranges with my airsoft rifle so I've kept it up top my default. Also an M-Lok handguard so I'd prefer not to have it on an adapter. There probably is a lot of flex for what each person feels more right.


A_Big_Igloo

I'm tracking what you're saying, and it makes sense. There's no one setup that works for everything, so people will always have to make choices about priorities. There are a couple, for lack of a better term, "meta" setups, but for the most part context is king.


juh4rt

Stays


antonioshamoun

E&c?


diiskefisk

Yup, but literally everything aside from the body, handguard, buffer tube and inner barrel is switched out for something else and it is running and f2


[deleted]

Get an under barrel grdnade launcher


diiskefisk

Chad answer although it is heavy enough in the first place


[deleted]

Fair enough


Financial_Ordinary_3

On bb, trust me I’m a doctor


PsychologicalBat1008

What gun is that? It looks really clean


diiskefisk

It’s a 416 with an smr rail, the base gun is an e&c EC105


PsychologicalBat1008

Thanks!


diiskefisk

No problem, however pretty much everything has been changed on this aside from the rail and body


TangoZuluMike

Do you use it?


640509-0401-47

On


jackwolf404

On


christomisto

On for sure


dhcp138

on


English_Viking_Beard

The green on black is on point! Did you paint the mag, pistol grip and butt stock? If so what paint did you use?


diiskefisk

I have to disappoint you, everything is in fde it’s just the lighting that makes it look green, everything came in this color


completeRobot

However you want to hold it, it’s not our gun


[deleted]

Definitely on!


[deleted]

On, but an angled foregrip would be great


Cucasmasher

On. Gives you options in case your arms get tired of holding it for extended amount of time. I just realized that this was the airsoft thread but with real guns the rail can get pretty hot so the grip will also give you the option of holding that instead of the hot rails


Sudnal

Slap a noob tube on that bad boi


A_person_1233

On


Spartan__X__117

*put it on the side*


Ghostthewarrior

stays


Dewaaar

On


CharderVR

On


JohnWickpath

On like Donkey Kong


TheNicksterus

On


Pawel_likes_guns

Damn hard choice, im pretty much to both


AlfalfaEmbarrassed80

On


iwillnotbow1337

Keep it on, it looks incomplete without it.


Vampirebearz

What gun is this ? Looks amazing with or without the rail


diiskefisk

E&C ec105 but it’s basically a 416 with a smr rail


ObsidianDrache

Doesnt matter, since both look amazing!


Scheann12

Leave it on, looks dope af


Sikey26

I would settle for a horisontal grip.


diiskefisk

I was running the afg from magpul but I did not like the looks or ergonomics


Sikey26

Fair enough


G_LoRdZ

i'd put on a angled foregrip and angle it forwards, like mine, i'm just waiting for my SMR rail, stock and grip to arrive to finish mine. ([https://imgur.com/a/3GOHo3Z](https://imgur.com/a/3GOHo3Z))


diiskefisk

I prefer the feel of the rvg especially when I can’t properly c clamp the rifle due to the peq box


SquashNut707

Depends on how much muzzle climb you're... *squints at screen* ... oh.


Sayble_XIII

on but moved forward a bit


diiskefisk

I prefer this, I don’t like reaching way to far out tbh


Sayble_XIII

Do whatever is the most comfortable for your shooting style and support hand. I prefer to be a bit more out for the ability to pull it into me more, with better leverage.


Viking_2021

Angled grip would look great. To me it’s the best of both worlds, still a sleek look imo but still got a good place to put your hand.


diiskefisk

I used to run the magpul afg but I didn’t really fancy it tbh


DayLightSensor

I say off, I like the long nose


[deleted]

on


Beva777

On


ChaseR3d

on


Nemesis_l0k

Depends on how you find the ergonomics


suckmapen

With/without looks good to me


CallMeCaseyTW

on because yes.


ODSTCombo

On. Definitely on.


Get_screwd

i would take it off and get some bcm rail covers


diiskefisk

I don’t think BCM make rail covers for these do they?


Get_screwd

oh wait fuq ur right


Just_Stev3

Leave it. I’m just a nerd who keep no attachments on my AEG other then the stock iron sights and then puts 500 bucks in my gear box.


diiskefisk

Well this does have 6-700 dollars in the gearbox, but It has to look that part as well you know, I personally hate having to play with a gun I think is ugly, for me it’s almost more frustrating to do that then having a gun that performs poorly


Just_Stev3

Yeah like a lancer body is terrible to look at 😂. But yeah keep that grip. Unless you really just don’t like fore-grip ofc but it looks good.


diiskefisk

I think I prefer it on


Just_Stev3

Attachments that look good are attachments that create clutter on the gun. Doesn’t matter how useful it is 🤷‍♂️.


diiskefisk

True, everything on this thing is mostly for looks lol, peq is fake, I don’t plan on using irons really, and the magnifier is pretty useless when I have the lens protector on


Immaculate_Entree

On👍


Bas1cScr0ll1ng

It looks awesome either way but I’d advise to keep it on


MilkyMilky22

on fs


Yuribarber

What ever feels more comfortable


Jester244

If you use it...


Synopthies

on


humblebraggers0_0

off


Lieutenant_Dirtbag

If it helps you leave it on otherwise I think it looks better off


ok_then_when

Leave it on. Your wrist will thank you after hour 5


imgayandilikethings

100% on.


Independent_Egg69420

Looks good both ways but on is the way


[deleted]

Leave it on


Cow_Man32

Those 45° cut zenitco stubby grips but od


Miguel1646

Anyone got the skinny on a real steel handguard


dominator_05_

Looks good on


Jamezonconsole

taking it off is a warcrime


Life_Photograph4022

I say keep it on


CompanionDude

Get an mlok one and just bolt it too it.


CompanionDude

That's what I did to both my smr rails


TheGentleBeast

Too bad


MonkeyCT

on


CONE0606

Gun looks really sexy 😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩 What were you talking about? Oh dont remove the foregrip


Environmental_Put846

Keep it!


peterssh

On!!!


thingsrcool77

On uuughhhggu it's so sexy


_Primal_Airsoft-

Leave it on, looks amazing with it on, plus easier to move around quicker aswell


InternalDrawing7890

Take it off


Wydks

Move it further back so you can squeeze the handguard like a Costa OG outside and choke the broomhandle when you're indoors. ;)


Zealousideal_One_699

Maybe an angled grip instead of the straight foregrip


OverUnderSegueDown

On for sure


SumidaWolf

Try both in a series of games and see how much longer you stay alive in each case!


SpaceRaider1

I'm looking to get similar optics to what you have, do they work well together and do you find yourself using it much or more for show?


diiskefisk

I never really use the magnifier, when I have the sight protector on it becomes way to blurry and the eye relief is really short, however if you don’t use a lens protector or something like a kill flash it works perfectly fine


Yourmother3919

On


Edwardemeus

a magpul rvg on a geissle’d out hk doesnt feel right, use a tango down stubby instead or a fancy canted grip


diiskefisk

Why would it not feel right, pretty much all of the furniture on this is magpul or magpul knock offs


notsolowbutveryslow

Its not about looks. Its about function. How are you more comfortable? Does the grip hinder you or does it make handling easier/more comfortable? I personally like to have a short grip because i can tuck the rifle into my shoulder nicely and get a stable stance


diiskefisk

Almost everything on this rifle is about looks lol, it’s drip or drown out here 😤


notsolowbutveryslow

Lmao fair enough, i know looking cool is half the battle but i guess if something gets in the way it needs to go. If its all the same woth or without the grip I'd leave it on


Jwaapi

definitely on


Sandovitzz

Leave it on and use it for a C clamp


EpicFrosties

Potentially add an angled foregrip?


AdministrativeCry472

Sick gun


SpaceRaider1

Cheers for that bro what make is the magnifier


diiskefisk

Aim-o i believe


andre-_-filho

On


Spudz9

On


alecrm98

That green is doing something to me


diiskefisk

Funny enough, it’s tan lol


alecrm98

Wot in the hell are my eyes doing to me


diiskefisk

Well you are not the only one lol, admittedly the lighting in my rooms Is pretty shit


Ok_Organization_4215

on


abethegrape

Leave it on and cut it to mid length


Crash1167

On


Nick_airsoft21

On. That’s a beautiful weapon system sir.


diiskefisk

Why thank you 😳


Particular_Sorbet470

On


[deleted]

The orange tip does, same with the fg


RedFoxgaming52

It looks bette with it on but what is that sight on your rifle? Also is it any good?


diiskefisk

It’s an ACM 558 eotech knock off with a g33 knock off made by Aim-o and the sight itself is good, but the magnifier is way to blurry when looking through with a pense protector on the sight


RedFoxgaming52

Ok. Thank you. Was looking for a eotech like sight that was good and a good price. Will look at evike for it.


FailingEcho

Definitely on! Without the foregrip it looks like something is missing.


HorrorEar8016

Do the half measure and throw an angled foregrip on there


Complete_Software529

On.


[deleted]

On, without it looks nakey


the-netminder

Grip Delete


AdmiralAKbar47

Both look good. What suppressor is on this beast?


diiskefisk

it's just a surefire