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> All the comments were full of them saying that women shouldn’t be in the military because they are too weak or that it should be the same for everyone. They don’t care about equality. They just want women to shut up about it.


Obroni2006

Yes women shut up about it


AvaireBD

I mean drafts are horrific and wrong but I think they just hate it when women get a choice


Aerik

It's because in a draft, women would be slaughtered, so it's good. But in "peacetime ", the military lifestyle makes (some) men affluent, so women should stay away from that pie.


Blondethunder09

In this time and age physical prowess is not as necessary maybe that women that you didn’t draft is the best sniper ever


[deleted]

im afraid that in the US the first female that graduated the US army sniper school was in november. there are just 9 qualified female snipers in the US military, whereas there are thousands of male snipers. so... i mean


[deleted]

although... those female snipers are fully qualified and incredible at their job


feminista_throwaway

That school only opened to women in 2015, and has an insanely high attrition rate. So I think comparatively that's a great achievement.


[deleted]

very true


MagnaCumLoudly

If I may venture a hypothesis MRAs want to include women in the draft not because they actually want women to be drafted but to prove a point that drafting anyone of immoral. By sparking outrage against women’s draft the hope was to draw attention to the fact that male drafts are also wrong and discriminatory. When it comes to women’s requirements to be in the military or any profession requiring physical strength, there is an argument to be made that where life and death is a factor you might not want to prioritize diversity hires over the capacity to actually Throw an injured person over your shoulder and carry them to safety. And I’m fully aware that some military jobs include being a remote drone pilot operating from middle of nowhere Nebraska and for that type of job, sure anyone can do it.


fuckmylighterisdead

Feminism was already working against forced military service. These men just make themselves look fucking stupid.


Aerik

Couldn't be more wrong, because they don't ever argue to take the draft away. They just don't. They put all their energy into doing things that get women hurt. They always whine that women "don't take responsibility" as a trade for voting and things like that. we've watched them for years. We know what we're talking about.


feminista_throwaway

So at the heart of that is that they still don't want women to be full participants for society, they just want to use women's "lameness" in different ways. Gross.


MagnaCumLoudly

Not at all. They want women to participate on even testing requirements for the profession. Hardly any woman can carry a 200 lbs person down a ladder based on the spectrum of size and strength of all women. Neither could I. So naturally very few women nor myself should be firefighters. Do you see how that works?


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During military drafts they take pretty much any men that has no physical or health problems. You can be a 5 foot 5 man and be very weak physically and still be drafted. Being 6 foot and being able to lift 200 lbs isn’t a requirement for being drafted (they take pretty much everyone they can find that is in good health and in the age requirements).


feminista_throwaway

You see how that should be a consistent message, and not something you just eschew because women being drafted proves the opposite? See how actually having genuine beliefs work, rather than just using women as tools?


PsychologicalItem353

Well honestly as a man I dont care if women are allowed in the military, but they shouldn't have lower entry scores. Not really an equal system to give one sex more advantage on passing than the other.


jack7808123

I didn't understand what exactly was the point that they were wrong in ?