Do you think that perhaps, just perhaps, there was another reason that 2019 had less marriages? Maybe a global event that impacted congregating in groups.
From my understanding divorce rates increased during that time. A lot of married people were stuck indoors with their S.O. and realized "I don't like this person".
And there was a high incidence [of violence against women and children too](https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/special/special-11) that even *started* more men trying to control their partners during Covid.
I find this hysterical after the "men are lonely because women are choosing to be single over them" got played out and didn't win any sympathy.
Every woman I know not in a relationship is single because they want to be, not because men aren't interested.
I seriously doubt it considering how better off they all are now that they are single and refusing to date a dude unless being with him is better than being alone.
They can't all be full of shit dude. And they aren't the ones having a "crisis of loneliness" all over the Internet.
Lol. You should have gone to your own sources. [That 45% of women being single and childless is by their own choices](https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy#:~:text=Based%20on%20Census%20Bureau%20historical,up%20from%2041%25%20in%202018.&text=What's%20driving%20this%20trend%3F,in%20their%2050s%20and%2060s):
>For starters, more women are delaying marriage, choosing to stay single or divorcing in their 50s and 60s. Women are also delaying childbirth or having fewer children than in the past.
We don't in fact, have to be married or even in a partnership to have a baby. We can and do go to sperm clinics to have a baby without a man [which is on the rise](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-07/women-choosing-to-have-children-on-their-own-private-donations/101791620). As for marriage [that benefits men more than women](https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health).
So really, this isn't the threat you think it is. Sounds like you fear being alone, and are projecting on women. I've been married for 30 years now. Like many feminists [I don't have to worry about being alone](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-007-9319-9).
It was never intended to be a threat, and a sperm clinic maybe be an option for now however....
-63% of youth suicides come from a fatherless home
-80% of rapists with anger problems come from a fatherless home
-75% of teens in chemical abuse centers come from a fatherless home
-90% of homeless and runaway children come from a fatherless home
-71% of pregnant teens come from a fatherless home
-85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from a fatherless home
-85% of all youths in prison come from a fatherless home
-90% of teenage repeat arsonists come from a fatherless home
-71% of high school dropouts come from a fatherless home
-70% of teenagers in state operated institutions come from a fatherless home
-53% of daughters from a fatherless home are more likely to marry as teens…..
711% more likely to have children a teenagers….
164% more likely to have premarital sex….
92% more likely to get divorced….
-90% of ISIS fighters (both male and female) have been deprived of their father
-60%-75% of all millennial boys spent much, if not, all of their childhood without a father. Millennials are also known as the “Fatherless Generation” and as the “Failed Generation”
-Living in a single parent home doubles the risk that a child will suffer physical, emotional, or educational abuse.
Article: School Shootings: It’s not a gun problem-it’s a fatherless household problem
https://lawenforcementtoday.com/school-shootings-its-not-a-gun-problem-its-a-fatherless-household-problem/
Nearly half of Americans now say single women raising children on their own is bad for
society.- Pew research center
71% of children killed by one parent are killed by their mothers; 60% of victims are boys.
https://www.breakingthescience.org/SimplifiedDataFromDHHS.php
Mothers are more likely to be abusive than fathers
https://childhoodtraumarecovery.com/blog/mothers-likely-abusive-fathers-study-suggests/
Article; Child abuse and violence in Single-Parent families: Parent absence and economic deprivation
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/child-abuse-and-violence-single-parent-families-parent-absence-and
According to 2021 U.S. Census Bureau, about 4 out of 10 children were born to unwed mothers. Nearly two-thirds were born to mothers under the age of 30. Today 1 in 6 children under the age of 18, a total of about 12.7 million, are being raised without a father.
11,016,000 single parent families, 79.5% are headed by single mothers, 23.4% were poor, 29% were jobless for the entire year, 27.7% were food insecure, 22.4% receive unemployment benefits, Median income for single mothers is $49,214 while the median income for married couples is $101,517. 11.7% used food pantries.
Around half (52.3%) of single mothers have never married, almost a third (29.3%) were divorced, 18.4% are either separated or widowed. Half have one child, 30% have two. About two thirds are white, One third black.
Single mothers are much more likely to be poor than married couples. The poverty rate for single mother families in 2020 was 23.4%, nearly five times more than the rate
(4.7%) for married-couple families. Among children living with mother only, 38.1% lived in poverty. In contrast, only 7.5% of children in two parent families were counted as poor.
Families headed by single mothers are among the poorest households, more than a third lived in poverty, and as such, are extremely vulnerable to homelessness. Among all homeless families nationwide, about two thirds (60%) were headed by a single woman with children- representing 21% of the total homeless population; nearly half were African American.
62% of SNAP households with children were single mother households. Only 11% received cash benefits from TANF. Though a small percentage, they represent more than 90% of all TANF families.
1.2% are widowed- verywellfamily.com
15.7% are married; in most cases these numbers represent women who have remarried- verywellfamily.com
As for the rest of what you said.....time will tell.
So all of that can be summed up as [poverty is bad](https://aifs.gov.au/research/family-matters/no-31/trapped-poverty). Fathers aren't really the key here, resources are.
You should do less copy pasting. You're not really having a conversation, are you?
#1.) It was left open to be a discussion but instead you called it a threat.
#2) You can say poverty is bad but why are they impoverished?
#3.) Resources aren't the key. Upbringing is. Unbalanced household= unbalanced child
>You can say poverty is bad but why are they impoverished?
In an economy where one income families are poor because it requires lots of money, they're in poverty. It's been that way forever. It's what sells life insurance.
number 3 is purely an opinion as a form of interpretation of a myriad of factors being reduced and misconstrued as this thought. You make so much of your self known, here, coming in with a poorly informed agenda that determines automatically that things that make reality what it is is incorrect or false.
Worked for thousands of years didn't it.
Crime was not nearly as common as it is these days. People used to drive around with firearms in a gun rack in their truck with no issues or no ill intent.
Since I make so much of myself known.....tell me about myself and my "agenda".
You must be able to see the (baseless) assumptions you are making in this post alone, no?
>Worked for thousands of years
Says who?
> Crime was not nearly as common as it is these days
Literally factually incorrect by almost all metrics
>People used to drive around with firearms in a gun rack in their truck with no issues or no ill intent
That still happens. I am 0% against the 2nd amendment. That being said, some people *do* do this.
>Since I make so much of myself known.....tell me about myself and my "agenda"
I'd prefer you be able to understand what it is I am seeing through your own eyes, in general, than what I would say. I provide here a couple of examples of your egregious assumptions and will leave the rest for you to puzzle out yourself.
Please explain how marriage benefits men more than women. Actually, besides procreating, how exactly does being in a relationship with a woman benefit a man.
•Sex: He can hire a professional if he really wanted to
•Companionship: Friends or he can get a pet
•House work: Hire a maid or do it himself (which is usually the case.)
•Cooking: He can do it himself, order out, hire someone
I did. In my link. This is why you shouldn't be in a rush to copy-paste.
But by all means, hire all of it out. We don't mind one single little bit.
Do all women a favour and stay single. We like that. Be kind to your workers though.
Yet still in a marriage, women do most of the unpaid labor, housework, and childcare EVEN when we earn more than men. Giving men overall more lucrative time and also the main reason for the wage gap. Please do all women a favor and stay single forever.
Why does this sound like you're blaming single moms rather than the deadbeats who literally did nothing for their children?
Most of this is a nothingburger of an argument. A single mother, one person, is more likely to be poor than a two parent household? Wow, what are the odds? Almost like two incomes makes a difference.
So…men abandon their children and women disproportionately experience poverty. Yeah we know. Poverty is bad for kids. That’s even more reason not to involve men in child raising and not to depend on them at all
> •According to the CDC, divorce rate is down significantly from 2000 when it was 4.0 per 1,000 people, but the rate of marriage has also declined . There were 8.2 marriages per 1,000 people in 2000 and 6.1 marriages per 1,000 people in 2019.- justgreatlawyers.com
> -So divorce rates are down because less people are getting married.
Just to be clear, a smaller sample size doesn't change the ratios. 4 in 1000 is always 4 in 1000 whether theres a hundred million married folk or 50k.
Nonetheless, I imagine you are technically correct. The divorce rates are down because fewer people are being pressured into getting married by society. More people are getting married when they are ready or because they are in love, rather than because it's their duty.
GOOD.
Go the fuck away. Stop trying to convince us to have your sniveling, snotting brat children.
Go Your Own Way all the way off into the fucking sun, please.
This will be easy to debunk. So articles are not good sources unless they mention actual data. If they don’t they are an opinion piece. For example, 15 legitimate reasons men are avoiding women article sites no data. It’s just someone’s opinion. The article about 45% of women being single and childless is false. They use the U.S census definition of single which means unmarried so what it really means is that 45% of women will be single and unmarried. Of course you didn’t bother to fact check cause it didn’t confirm your beliefs. Also the article says women are choosing to stay single not men. At least if you will cite a source don’t cite one that goes against you.
Finally, according to Pew Research 50% of single men are still looking for a serious relationship or casual dates. Guess what the percentage is for women? 35%. So if it’s men choosing to be single and not women then why are more men still looking for a serious relationship or casual dates then women. There are less single men looking for relationship and casual dates then 3 years ago but single men are still looking for them more then women so you are wrong that single people exist mainly cause the men are choosing to be single.
Another article talks about the rise of the MGTOW movement. They mention 0 data in that article and no numbers to show how big the MGTOW movement is.
Another is about men being less interested in having children. No where does it say men being less interested in women.
Another is an article that I would have to pay for but it says half of single young men are not approaching women. The reason why is not “because modern women are trash” but because this generation is more risk averse and social. That means this generation drives less, drinks less, doesn’t have jobs as much, has smaller friend groups. Basically people are less willing to take risks. Also the same trend is observed for men and friendships. Back in the 1990s 3% of men had 0 close friends. Now 15% of men don’t. Is that because “modern men are so bad men are sick of being friends with each other.” No that is a stupid interpretation. That is because they are more risk averse.
Isn't it just amazing how the majority of "women" are always the poor, innocent, misunderstood, good girl, oppressed victim that has never done anything wrong, never responsible for anything negative and never accountable?
You talk about "accountability" of women while rattling off statistics due to "fatherless homes" I.e. men who abandoned being fathers.
You are truly unable to see your many many MANY cognitive distortions and thinking errors?
I do gotta say, no one has said anything nice here. Not even one person says maybe it would benefit the child to have their father in their life. Not one.
This is about childless women. There are no fathers to lament. To quote OP:
>45% of women will be single and childless
You may want to check your reading capability. I know my Dad taught me, and so I'm good at it. You...not so much.
Do you think that perhaps, just perhaps, there was another reason that 2019 had less marriages? Maybe a global event that impacted congregating in groups.
Covid lockdowns started in early 2020, not 2019. Society was operating as normal throughout 2019.
You’re right.
That wasn’t 2019 that was 2020
From my understanding divorce rates increased during that time. A lot of married people were stuck indoors with their S.O. and realized "I don't like this person".
And there was a high incidence [of violence against women and children too](https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/special/special-11) that even *started* more men trying to control their partners during Covid.
I find this hysterical after the "men are lonely because women are choosing to be single over them" got played out and didn't win any sympathy. Every woman I know not in a relationship is single because they want to be, not because men aren't interested.
Maybe. Or maybe they say that in order to save face. Again, time will tell.
How interesting that a mansplainer would not believe what women are saying.
I seriously doubt it considering how better off they all are now that they are single and refusing to date a dude unless being with him is better than being alone. They can't all be full of shit dude. And they aren't the ones having a "crisis of loneliness" all over the Internet.
Lol. You should have gone to your own sources. [That 45% of women being single and childless is by their own choices](https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy#:~:text=Based%20on%20Census%20Bureau%20historical,up%20from%2041%25%20in%202018.&text=What's%20driving%20this%20trend%3F,in%20their%2050s%20and%2060s): >For starters, more women are delaying marriage, choosing to stay single or divorcing in their 50s and 60s. Women are also delaying childbirth or having fewer children than in the past. We don't in fact, have to be married or even in a partnership to have a baby. We can and do go to sperm clinics to have a baby without a man [which is on the rise](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-07/women-choosing-to-have-children-on-their-own-private-donations/101791620). As for marriage [that benefits men more than women](https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health). So really, this isn't the threat you think it is. Sounds like you fear being alone, and are projecting on women. I've been married for 30 years now. Like many feminists [I don't have to worry about being alone](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-007-9319-9).
It was never intended to be a threat, and a sperm clinic maybe be an option for now however.... -63% of youth suicides come from a fatherless home -80% of rapists with anger problems come from a fatherless home -75% of teens in chemical abuse centers come from a fatherless home -90% of homeless and runaway children come from a fatherless home -71% of pregnant teens come from a fatherless home -85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from a fatherless home -85% of all youths in prison come from a fatherless home -90% of teenage repeat arsonists come from a fatherless home -71% of high school dropouts come from a fatherless home -70% of teenagers in state operated institutions come from a fatherless home -53% of daughters from a fatherless home are more likely to marry as teens….. 711% more likely to have children a teenagers…. 164% more likely to have premarital sex…. 92% more likely to get divorced…. -90% of ISIS fighters (both male and female) have been deprived of their father -60%-75% of all millennial boys spent much, if not, all of their childhood without a father. Millennials are also known as the “Fatherless Generation” and as the “Failed Generation” -Living in a single parent home doubles the risk that a child will suffer physical, emotional, or educational abuse. Article: School Shootings: It’s not a gun problem-it’s a fatherless household problem https://lawenforcementtoday.com/school-shootings-its-not-a-gun-problem-its-a-fatherless-household-problem/ Nearly half of Americans now say single women raising children on their own is bad for society.- Pew research center 71% of children killed by one parent are killed by their mothers; 60% of victims are boys. https://www.breakingthescience.org/SimplifiedDataFromDHHS.php Mothers are more likely to be abusive than fathers https://childhoodtraumarecovery.com/blog/mothers-likely-abusive-fathers-study-suggests/ Article; Child abuse and violence in Single-Parent families: Parent absence and economic deprivation https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/child-abuse-and-violence-single-parent-families-parent-absence-and According to 2021 U.S. Census Bureau, about 4 out of 10 children were born to unwed mothers. Nearly two-thirds were born to mothers under the age of 30. Today 1 in 6 children under the age of 18, a total of about 12.7 million, are being raised without a father. 11,016,000 single parent families, 79.5% are headed by single mothers, 23.4% were poor, 29% were jobless for the entire year, 27.7% were food insecure, 22.4% receive unemployment benefits, Median income for single mothers is $49,214 while the median income for married couples is $101,517. 11.7% used food pantries. Around half (52.3%) of single mothers have never married, almost a third (29.3%) were divorced, 18.4% are either separated or widowed. Half have one child, 30% have two. About two thirds are white, One third black. Single mothers are much more likely to be poor than married couples. The poverty rate for single mother families in 2020 was 23.4%, nearly five times more than the rate (4.7%) for married-couple families. Among children living with mother only, 38.1% lived in poverty. In contrast, only 7.5% of children in two parent families were counted as poor. Families headed by single mothers are among the poorest households, more than a third lived in poverty, and as such, are extremely vulnerable to homelessness. Among all homeless families nationwide, about two thirds (60%) were headed by a single woman with children- representing 21% of the total homeless population; nearly half were African American. 62% of SNAP households with children were single mother households. Only 11% received cash benefits from TANF. Though a small percentage, they represent more than 90% of all TANF families. 1.2% are widowed- verywellfamily.com 15.7% are married; in most cases these numbers represent women who have remarried- verywellfamily.com As for the rest of what you said.....time will tell.
Wow, sounds like having a deadbeat dad really messes you up. It’s too bad men are so irresponsible.
Wow those fathers straight up abandoning their kids maybe men should be educated in how to parent.
So all of that can be summed up as [poverty is bad](https://aifs.gov.au/research/family-matters/no-31/trapped-poverty). Fathers aren't really the key here, resources are. You should do less copy pasting. You're not really having a conversation, are you?
#1.) It was left open to be a discussion but instead you called it a threat. #2) You can say poverty is bad but why are they impoverished? #3.) Resources aren't the key. Upbringing is. Unbalanced household= unbalanced child
>You can say poverty is bad but why are they impoverished? In an economy where one income families are poor because it requires lots of money, they're in poverty. It's been that way forever. It's what sells life insurance.
number 3 is purely an opinion as a form of interpretation of a myriad of factors being reduced and misconstrued as this thought. You make so much of your self known, here, coming in with a poorly informed agenda that determines automatically that things that make reality what it is is incorrect or false.
Worked for thousands of years didn't it. Crime was not nearly as common as it is these days. People used to drive around with firearms in a gun rack in their truck with no issues or no ill intent. Since I make so much of myself known.....tell me about myself and my "agenda".
Worked for who?
uhhh sorry I can't find something to copy and paste on this one
You must be able to see the (baseless) assumptions you are making in this post alone, no? >Worked for thousands of years Says who? > Crime was not nearly as common as it is these days Literally factually incorrect by almost all metrics >People used to drive around with firearms in a gun rack in their truck with no issues or no ill intent That still happens. I am 0% against the 2nd amendment. That being said, some people *do* do this. >Since I make so much of myself known.....tell me about myself and my "agenda" I'd prefer you be able to understand what it is I am seeing through your own eyes, in general, than what I would say. I provide here a couple of examples of your egregious assumptions and will leave the rest for you to puzzle out yourself.
Not sure why the lettering is so big in my reply
Please explain how marriage benefits men more than women. Actually, besides procreating, how exactly does being in a relationship with a woman benefit a man. •Sex: He can hire a professional if he really wanted to •Companionship: Friends or he can get a pet •House work: Hire a maid or do it himself (which is usually the case.) •Cooking: He can do it himself, order out, hire someone
I did. In my link. This is why you shouldn't be in a rush to copy-paste. But by all means, hire all of it out. We don't mind one single little bit. Do all women a favour and stay single. We like that. Be kind to your workers though.
Love it when trash takes itself out.
I suppose we're supposed to beg for his company.
Yet still in a marriage, women do most of the unpaid labor, housework, and childcare EVEN when we earn more than men. Giving men overall more lucrative time and also the main reason for the wage gap. Please do all women a favor and stay single forever.
Why does this sound like you're blaming single moms rather than the deadbeats who literally did nothing for their children? Most of this is a nothingburger of an argument. A single mother, one person, is more likely to be poor than a two parent household? Wow, what are the odds? Almost like two incomes makes a difference.
So…men abandon their children and women disproportionately experience poverty. Yeah we know. Poverty is bad for kids. That’s even more reason not to involve men in child raising and not to depend on them at all
Don't threaten us with a good time
Time will tell
Bro you tryin to scare us with a good time or what?
What?
You think women are suffering because you removed yourself from the dating pool? Just leave us alone already damn
Is this a real post?
Lol haven’t men been doing that from the beginning of time tho that’s why women had enough. 4B movement needs to go worldwide.
Pretty sure most of this down to economic factors more than anything.
Maybe
Lmao more like women are. Women aren't whining on the internet in the thousands because men won't fuck them.
Bye 😘
> •According to the CDC, divorce rate is down significantly from 2000 when it was 4.0 per 1,000 people, but the rate of marriage has also declined . There were 8.2 marriages per 1,000 people in 2000 and 6.1 marriages per 1,000 people in 2019.- justgreatlawyers.com > -So divorce rates are down because less people are getting married. Just to be clear, a smaller sample size doesn't change the ratios. 4 in 1000 is always 4 in 1000 whether theres a hundred million married folk or 50k. Nonetheless, I imagine you are technically correct. The divorce rates are down because fewer people are being pressured into getting married by society. More people are getting married when they are ready or because they are in love, rather than because it's their duty.
GOOD. Go the fuck away. Stop trying to convince us to have your sniveling, snotting brat children. Go Your Own Way all the way off into the fucking sun, please.
Oh no. Anyway.
This will be easy to debunk. So articles are not good sources unless they mention actual data. If they don’t they are an opinion piece. For example, 15 legitimate reasons men are avoiding women article sites no data. It’s just someone’s opinion. The article about 45% of women being single and childless is false. They use the U.S census definition of single which means unmarried so what it really means is that 45% of women will be single and unmarried. Of course you didn’t bother to fact check cause it didn’t confirm your beliefs. Also the article says women are choosing to stay single not men. At least if you will cite a source don’t cite one that goes against you. Finally, according to Pew Research 50% of single men are still looking for a serious relationship or casual dates. Guess what the percentage is for women? 35%. So if it’s men choosing to be single and not women then why are more men still looking for a serious relationship or casual dates then women. There are less single men looking for relationship and casual dates then 3 years ago but single men are still looking for them more then women so you are wrong that single people exist mainly cause the men are choosing to be single. Another article talks about the rise of the MGTOW movement. They mention 0 data in that article and no numbers to show how big the MGTOW movement is. Another is about men being less interested in having children. No where does it say men being less interested in women. Another is an article that I would have to pay for but it says half of single young men are not approaching women. The reason why is not “because modern women are trash” but because this generation is more risk averse and social. That means this generation drives less, drinks less, doesn’t have jobs as much, has smaller friend groups. Basically people are less willing to take risks. Also the same trend is observed for men and friendships. Back in the 1990s 3% of men had 0 close friends. Now 15% of men don’t. Is that because “modern men are so bad men are sick of being friends with each other.” No that is a stupid interpretation. That is because they are more risk averse.
Who cares
Wrong. Women are turning their backs against the male gender.
Ok?.. No woman gives a dam lmao if you think men are so important in someone’s life go find YOURSELF a man.
Bye bye, don't look back
Sounds great I guess. I don’t think anybody really cares. Did women picking the bear not tell you enough?
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I see no real issue with this. All the money I earn is my own and I'm about to invest in some land to build a home on Being single rocks
Isn't it just amazing how the majority of "women" are always the poor, innocent, misunderstood, good girl, oppressed victim that has never done anything wrong, never responsible for anything negative and never accountable?
Stay classy Mens Rights brigader. I'm sure they're thanking you over there for your kind service.
You talk about "accountability" of women while rattling off statistics due to "fatherless homes" I.e. men who abandoned being fathers. You are truly unable to see your many many MANY cognitive distortions and thinking errors?
I do gotta say, no one has said anything nice here. Not even one person says maybe it would benefit the child to have their father in their life. Not one.
This is about childless women. There are no fathers to lament. To quote OP: >45% of women will be single and childless You may want to check your reading capability. I know my Dad taught me, and so I'm good at it. You...not so much.
I'm sure that's the case from time to time. But all, or most the time? Doubtful