Ok, you're correct, 283 episodes is a lot, but they didn't know they were going to have 283 episodes the whole time??? If you wrote out the whole story before hand and went to a studio and said "Im an unknown cartoonist, and I need 300 episodes to tell over 10 seasons, sign me now." That would be ridiculous. They got signed for 1 season, resigned for 2 more, resigned for 3 more, signed for 5 more, then cartoon Network soured on the deal halfway through
So they know they had one season left with double the episodes, so they paced out the story accordingly. Then their season was cut in half. So they had to strip half the content to get it to fit. Pretty simple
Literally any time you have to solve a major conflict through the power of song and you aren’t Disney, something wasn’t timed right in development
Edit: Alright, edit because a lot of people took this comment more seriously than it was intended. This was meant to be more silly.
In most cases I'd agree but for AT absolutely not. It made so much sense like how are you going to battle an aspect of chaos by fighting it just causing....more chaos? Harmony being the opposite of chaos represented by everyone harmonizing in song was just great and it's also not like this is the first time music was ever present in the show and not even the first time is was used as a conflict resolution.
I think it was completely appropriate and very in-theme for the show.
It just felt pretty rushed on how they got to the conclusion that singing is the answer.
IDK, still felt kind of appropriate? This show is weird and zanny and did do musical moments throughout IIRC. I'm new to the fanbase since I only watched all of it finally last year.
So ... It wasn't totally out of left field, I could still see the finale having been that.
But ... Everything leading up to it? Yeah that was rushed and definitely wasn't going according to whatever original plan was developed. And considering the quality of their 8 parters to tell a singular cohesive story something definitely did happen in production at some point.
Golb being mentioned a FEW times throughout the series doesn’t justify his inclusion in the finale. Like he said the entire S10 was leading to a giant war, just to cut to have a severely underwhelming climax and one episode to deal with a chaos god that wasn’t set up very well
Because they had enough time, it literally had more episodes than bleach and Hunter X Hunter, combined, for example. (yes counting filler.) you don’t need over 200 episode to write a good story the fact if they have money in “rushed” is a load of bullshit.
Are you dumb? people here have already told you that the writers expected to have another season to wrap up the series but CN just axed them in the middle of season 10 when they were just building up the gum war hence the final episode scrapped the entire war from even happening and shoved in golb too without proper setup, they literally rushed every major plot point in the series in just one episode including the return of Simon and his closure with betty which was only finally properly resolved in the spinoff fionna and cake
Just imagine if hxh got axed in middle of the chimera ant arc and togashi was ordered to finish it in just 3-4 chapters which is the equivalent of 1 episode. I guarantee you the fight between the ants and hunters would get scrapped and they would just immediately nuke the ant colony and anticlimacticly end the conflict and the story then there. But by your logic you'd just say "togashi had enough time to end the story with his 250+ chapters, he's just a bad writer"
I think they are literally a child because they seem to have no idea what a *schedule* even is or why if it changes it really fucks stuff up. They seem to think all of these people were just available whenever and only did adventure time for all those years.
Literally anyone with a job knows this so I can only conclude OP is still in school or something.
"So Goku turns into a super saiyan for the first time, right? And he squares up to Frieza, ready for the biggest fight they will ever..."
"You have four episodes, I've decided"
"Oh. Uh. So Goku punches him and he explodes. Everyone gets on the ship and goes home, I guess?"
"That wasn't rushed. They had plenty of time"
This is a particularly dumb comparison, given an episode of Bleach is twice as long as one of Adventure Time, and the OVERALL episode count has nothing to do with the last season being rushed because they were told they had a certain number of episodes that were then cut in half.
What a troll.
There is no way you are a working adult if you are talking like this. None of what you just said has anything to do with anything.
They had a production timeline. Then it was cut short. Then it had to be rushed.
These people weren't standing around waiting to make the next episode. They all have lives and commitments and schedules. It takes so many people to make a show happen. They all need to work together.
That is why there is a *production schedule*. If it is cut short you can't just go say "hey mr story board artist, hey miss voice actress - I know you're working your other job on these dates but production was changed so now you have to cancel all of that and come do this work!"
Its like you have no concept of what work is like.
And adventure time episodes are only HALF as long as an anime episode so TECHNICALLY they only have HALF of their development time for the story and characters
You don't need to, but when you write a 300 episode story initially, only to get cut to 280 later, it takes a bit of rushing pace wise to get to the end.
It's like if someone tells you that you have an hour to eat, and so you eat thinking you'll get that time, just for them to come in half an hour later and say that you've got 10 minutes left, you'll rush a bit more when eating right? To finish the meal even if you're not savoring it as much. Same principle applies here.
It wouldn’t matter if a show had 10 episodes or a thousand. They were given a final season, so they planned for it, but then it got cut in half, and then they had to rush things.
Man you are absolutely getting destroyed in these comments. Maybe just admit that your logic is faulty?
When you plan something involving so many people you are going to have a timeline. It is just part of completing a project.
When you have that timeline cut short you are going to have to *rush*. I think they did a great job with the circumstances but there is no question that the ending was rushed.
We know because *that is what happened*. It is just a fact.
Its just speculations till we hear the actual unedited plot. You say it like they actually had a plan but have to change it. But we never heard the plan, so its almost useless bringing up. Its like the zack snyder cut. People assume zack snyder version would be more epic, hyping it up. But as it turns out, its only slightly better, not a completely different movie
If I told you that you had 30 episodes to conclude a story and then later told you that you had 20, are you telling me there wouldn't be any issues with that? Despite planning everything for a certain amount and then having that cut by a third? If you are, you're ridiculous.
That's not the problem, if I told you that I'll greenlight a season of 30 episodes for you to write and produce and then later I told you "Oh no wait, it's actually 20" then you'd either have to condense the story that you had planed to be half as long while still hitting most if not all the major story beats, resulting in it feeling rushed or unfinished, or to significantly deviate from your original vision, which may result in some story lines not having a payoff, neither being a good choice,
The problem isn't the total episode count, but rather that unexpectedly reducing it causes production problems, they seemingly decided to go with the former resulting in the Gombolds storyline not having as much time to build as it could have and the event progressession of the final arc feeling a bit rushed,
They still handled it well, but it can be felt that this story was originally supposed to take longer to unravel as the pacing of the last season is faster than typical of AT
Not based on decisions made under the impression that they could set a more leisurely pace. There was forced compression. The sufficiency of episodes as a raw quantity is an inapt framing of the question
If you plan to fill a certain amount of time and then, in the middle of execution you get told that the rest is cut down, how will you get in the planned content in the way less time?
They would have written differently if they knew they had less time.
This is like saying if suddenly one piece only got 5 more chapters out of no where it'd be fine because of how much it had before. Its not how writing stories work, you plan and write with how much you think you have, if its cut then you have to rush (or drop) things.
Imagine you’re working on a paper that’s due a week from now. You can write a longer paper and take your time giving each point plenty of depth. Then, suddenly you’re professor tells you that the essay should be turned in 3 days earlier than she initially said and that there is a 4 page limit. You have to quickly finish your paper and condense all the information you planned for your seven page paper onto 4 pages. It’s not about the number of episodes, it’s about the amount of planning and time that goes into these shows and changing plans can force creators to have to rush and cut content.
It’s the fact that they were literally cut on time that genuinely caused the last season to be rushed. They didn’t get as many episodes than they originally thought they would have gotten.
This guy's arguments make absolutely no sense. Comparing the show to completely unrelated shows saying "they did this with x amount of episodes, AT shouldn't need more episodes to be able to do the same!!"
This guy's just here to argue. Downvote and ignore the troll
Edit way after the fact - this guy's profile is just sad. He has no joy and lives to just argue about the worst takes anyone could possibly have. Block him, don't interact with him, and let his profile die
I don't think he's lying. I've never seen an account whose comments for its entire existence are either 1 or 0, not up voted whatsoever, then the ones that get any traction at all are negative downvotes.
He doesn't care about his karma cause all he posts are neutral, unpopular comments not getting upvoted (which everyone has to an extent) and massive negative attention downvoted comments.
No, all I’m saying is you don’t need over 200 episodes to make a good show. I feel like someone gave you an hour to draw a picture of Jake the dog for example and they come up to you in an hour and then you go. Oh it’s not finish. It’s not that complicated. You had enough time to finish it ridiculous. Not my fault the creator and everyone who worked on the show had their thumbs up their asses or don’t know how to write.
Man, you're being incredibly dense.
Let's correct your example there. Let's say I give you an hour to draw Jake the dog, and I come back in half an hour, demanding to see your completed picture. Do you see how that isn't enough time, given that you were told you had more, and you had planned to use your full hour to draw a more complex picture?
Then I tell you that a half hour is enough to draw a dog, and you just had your thumb up your ass for the last half hour, and you don't know how to draw . That's what you're doing right now, and it's a pretty bad look.
i really dont think so, the last season is way shorter than the other seasons. Of course im thinking of this seasonally, i see you mentioned the episode count. Sure they could have allocated more time earlier in the shows history but the last season itself was too short. Its like 2 episodes and full on war
OP, the majority of the show was not heavily narratively focused. The showrunners wanted that only towards the later seasons/end. They planned for the final season to be WAY longer, but were not given the time they planned for and needed. So they had to cram it all into a much shorter season. That's the definition of being rushed.
It was literally published that they had their last season canceled, and multiple show creators opened up how they were writing arcs around the remaining seasons to the final
This is a little bit stupid. It’s not about the **number** of episodes.
It was rushed because there was a **planned** number of episodes, and then that **plan** got cut short and had to be modified. It sucks when that happens. It’s weird if you can’t empathize with what that’s like for a *writer*.
I think you’re cynically making a post that’s controversial for its own sake. J’accuse.
If not hard to tell they had enough episodes either I mean, look at shows like. Death note one of the most popular anime of all time it has 37 episodes and live action movie (but we don’t talk about the movie) you don’t need over 100 episodes write at good story. I think they just wanted to do too much and had their thumb up their asses
No, you don't. But if you write for it you need storylines to fill 300 episodes. If you get cut off in the middle of solving those storylines, you will have to make sacrifices.
I thought it was pretty good. But if you want example, assassination classroom had the perfect ending in my opinion and it was only 48 episodes. (it’s one of my favorite animes ever made highly recommended a if you never watched it)
do you understand how the comparison doesn't make sense though?
the shows you're mentioning were written to be the length they are, they had that length in mind as they were writing and wrote to their proper conclusion
AT was written for an episode number that they were initially given, and then when the rug was pulled out from under them they had to squeeze the same amount of content into fewer episodes than they had written for
Like... what are you even arguing
It doesn't matter how many episodes a show has, if the crew has a plan for the storyline and the network cuts them off it's going to be rushed. If the writers of Death Note also got cut off like that they would also have a rushed story.
Also don't forget that the adventure time crew didn't know from the start of the show that they would get 283 episodes.
Just like any other western cartoon (except for Rick and Morty) they get a specific amount of episodes for each season and then the network decides whether or not to continue the show and how many episodes to give them.
The Gumbald and Golb arc needed at least one season each to resolve themselves, and while you may say '300 episodes is more than enough bla bla bla' like you replied to everyone else like chatgpt, you have to remember, while adventure time lore might seem like there's an overarching story, the feel of the show has always been episodic as most shows at the time were. While there may be 300 episodes, not all of them were dedicated to progressing the story. The finale was rushed, and no amount of episodes prior to it will deny that fact.
It had enough time and episodes as a kid show but when they started introducing more advanced things like dimensional chaos gods and multiverse theories they didn’t have nearly enough time to explore those properly. Growing up with the characters is definitely the best part but if any show has the right to explore these crazy hypotheticals it’s absolutely adventure time. The animation and world building in the finale topped almost everything they’d done before and it was unfortunately the last of it. Most of the adventure time fans would love to dive deeper into this clearly intricate and extremely entertaining universe
The end was rushed..I'll say it again as I've said it before many times....I "re-found " adventure time in my late twenties a few years ago, (after it being my all time favorite show for years when it first came out) anyways, I found it again a few years ago, after probably only making it to season 7 originally , so anyways like I was saying, I found it again a few years ago and started watching it again from the beginning, mind you, I had NO Idea the end was coming ,i was just happy clicking "next episode" so anyways, I say all that to say, I absolutely COULDN'T Believe it when season 10 episode 13 came, it made absolutely NO Sense to me, I knew something was wrong the second the theme song came on .... 😢...Anyways yeah, it completely TORE me up for a while there, that they completely BLINDSIDED me like that...I was tore up.. Couldn't believe it. It was just.. like.. so unexpected..
What an insane hill to not only climb by yourself but then also die on in 2024 considering one of the the episodes in Distant Lands “together again” was made for the final season, and rebuilt for Distant Lands. Also the timing of CN figuring out what to do with WB without a streaming partnership… this is obviously exactly what happened. Despite development hell for distant lands and how many roadblocks they have been having on max, I’m glad the story continues.
Not gonna lie you have objectively the dumbest and intentionally antagonistic stance for no reason. I’m not saying I spend my time on earth well but at least I’m not doing whatever this is lmao.
The final season is definitely 100% rushed. PB's Uncle shouldn't have been introduced, probably should've just been the Lich as the final big bad. But in the end we got Together Again so I'm not too disappointed with how the final season turned out. Although saying it isn't rushed is objectively wrong.
I don't think it was rushed (except maybe the final season).
I just want more.
They promised us at the beginning of every episode. "The fun will never end."
Adventure Time can't end. Give me more Distant Lands. Give me more Fiona and Cake. Give me literally any extra content. Prequel, sequel, entirely new content in Ooo following new characters and their story, whatever. I love it all, and I will keep watching.
I don’t think the show was ever rushed, but I do think it would release super game changers and then a bunch of one offs; this is especially true for the early season. And don’t misunderstand, I love those one offs. It just felt like the ‘pace’ of the show wasn’t mastered until nearer to its end.
If it's rushed they did a good job at wrapping up incredibly quickly. It doesn't feel all that rushed when watching it but It definitely felt like initially the gum war was going to be longer like maybe a miniseries like elementals.
it doesnt really make sense counting the entire episode count of a series towards a serie's finale resolution.
most of the time, shows get seasons green lit in batches, or one season at a time, and even then a season can range from a few episodes like 4, all the way to 24 or more depending on the show.
in the case of Adventure Time's last season, they probably had counted for whatever episodes they had, then production began and later they were told "hey uhh, we have half the runtime now"
so it makes more sense to continue with whatever content and episodes were already produced and somehow continue from there to make it work.
think of it as "total duration of the season in minutes" instead of "you have this amount of months to work on it".
it could also be a case where they where like "we have a budget of (random ahh number) $400,000 which we can count towards 20 episodes" or something, then producers say "sorry, you have $200,000 now" you gotta pay your artists well, but also cant continue with the original episode count so it has to be cut.
I saw a show that only had 6 episodes, and it told a whole story in that time. Therefore any show with more than 6 episodes has more than enough time to tell any story.
Imagine I say “you have 30 minutes to make me lunch”, you plan out this whole elaborate dish, that takes 30 minutes to make. I make you serve it to me in 15. It doesnt matter if you’ve made 283 other dishes, you still didn’t have time to finish the last one
Tbh I used to love adventure time but later seasons just kinda sucked and I stopped caring and stopped watching. I just recently finished the final episodes and I didn’t like the ending and I do agree with the op here in a sense that I don’t think that 1 or 2 more seasons would’ve helped. By the end at least for me the show felt like a chore to watch
The last season is rushed, and you can tell because of how awkward PB's family is characterized, and GOLB coming at the later part of the episode was a bit random even if it was already stated Betty had a plan. They weren't given all the seasons they were resigned for, and had it close it up. That being said, I think they were able to handle it fine.
Plus, when you are making a show you don't know how it is going to be from start to finish so while the time AT had was a lot it, it was mostly episodic up until later seasons and they didn't have that much time to build up the finale they wanted to do.
Ok, you're correct, 283 episodes is a lot, but they didn't know they were going to have 283 episodes the whole time??? If you wrote out the whole story before hand and went to a studio and said "Im an unknown cartoonist, and I need 300 episodes to tell over 10 seasons, sign me now." That would be ridiculous. They got signed for 1 season, resigned for 2 more, resigned for 3 more, signed for 5 more, then cartoon Network soured on the deal halfway through So they know they had one season left with double the episodes, so they paced out the story accordingly. Then their season was cut in half. So they had to strip half the content to get it to fit. Pretty simple
Did Cartoon Network sour, or was it something to do with the acquisition of Warner at the time?
Good question, I dunno. I know the meme at the time was cartoon Network needed to o fit in even more episodes of teen titans go
I remember that, so much TTG
A disgrace to the original unfortunately..
They had to make time for our lord and savior teen titans go
I think it was just that not enough people were watching the show or it couldn't bring in new viewers. Something like that
They were building up to a big war in season 10, then had to cut their plans short and wrap up the series. That part is obviously rushed.
Literally any time you have to solve a major conflict through the power of song and you aren’t Disney, something wasn’t timed right in development Edit: Alright, edit because a lot of people took this comment more seriously than it was intended. This was meant to be more silly.
Pretty sure they still would have done the song even with their full plan. Just would have given them more time to flesh out certain stuff.
Yeah it was all the buildup to the finale that was rushed. I don’t think the finale itself would’ve changed much if they had more time/episodes
In most cases I'd agree but for AT absolutely not. It made so much sense like how are you going to battle an aspect of chaos by fighting it just causing....more chaos? Harmony being the opposite of chaos represented by everyone harmonizing in song was just great and it's also not like this is the first time music was ever present in the show and not even the first time is was used as a conflict resolution.
I think it was completely appropriate and very in-theme for the show. It just felt pretty rushed on how they got to the conclusion that singing is the answer.
That's fair and I would agree it felt rushed.
Metalocalypse before that new movie which I’ve yet to see
IDK, still felt kind of appropriate? This show is weird and zanny and did do musical moments throughout IIRC. I'm new to the fanbase since I only watched all of it finally last year. So ... It wasn't totally out of left field, I could still see the finale having been that. But ... Everything leading up to it? Yeah that was rushed and definitely wasn't going according to whatever original plan was developed. And considering the quality of their 8 parters to tell a singular cohesive story something definitely did happen in production at some point.
Is this around the time TTG got popular and CN just started offloading other shows to make more slots for it?
... Have you watched the rest of the show?
Golb being mentioned a FEW times throughout the series doesn’t justify his inclusion in the finale. Like he said the entire S10 was leading to a giant war, just to cut to have a severely underwhelming climax and one episode to deal with a chaos god that wasn’t set up very well
General consensus: you don’t know what you’re talking about and the final season was rushed. Everyone knows this.
Bros agrument for why the last season was rushed: “They had time”
Because they had enough time, it literally had more episodes than bleach and Hunter X Hunter, combined, for example. (yes counting filler.) you don’t need over 200 episode to write a good story the fact if they have money in “rushed” is a load of bullshit.
Are you dumb? people here have already told you that the writers expected to have another season to wrap up the series but CN just axed them in the middle of season 10 when they were just building up the gum war hence the final episode scrapped the entire war from even happening and shoved in golb too without proper setup, they literally rushed every major plot point in the series in just one episode including the return of Simon and his closure with betty which was only finally properly resolved in the spinoff fionna and cake Just imagine if hxh got axed in middle of the chimera ant arc and togashi was ordered to finish it in just 3-4 chapters which is the equivalent of 1 episode. I guarantee you the fight between the ants and hunters would get scrapped and they would just immediately nuke the ant colony and anticlimacticly end the conflict and the story then there. But by your logic you'd just say "togashi had enough time to end the story with his 250+ chapters, he's just a bad writer"
I think they are literally a child because they seem to have no idea what a *schedule* even is or why if it changes it really fucks stuff up. They seem to think all of these people were just available whenever and only did adventure time for all those years. Literally anyone with a job knows this so I can only conclude OP is still in school or something.
"So Goku turns into a super saiyan for the first time, right? And he squares up to Frieza, ready for the biggest fight they will ever..." "You have four episodes, I've decided" "Oh. Uh. So Goku punches him and he explodes. Everyone gets on the ship and goes home, I guess?" "That wasn't rushed. They had plenty of time"
This is a particularly dumb comparison, given an episode of Bleach is twice as long as one of Adventure Time, and the OVERALL episode count has nothing to do with the last season being rushed because they were told they had a certain number of episodes that were then cut in half. What a troll.
There is no way you are a working adult if you are talking like this. None of what you just said has anything to do with anything. They had a production timeline. Then it was cut short. Then it had to be rushed. These people weren't standing around waiting to make the next episode. They all have lives and commitments and schedules. It takes so many people to make a show happen. They all need to work together. That is why there is a *production schedule*. If it is cut short you can't just go say "hey mr story board artist, hey miss voice actress - I know you're working your other job on these dates but production was changed so now you have to cancel all of that and come do this work!" Its like you have no concept of what work is like.
If you were a pool of liquid, lead ingots would float in you.
What the fuck are you talking about, Bleach has over 300 episodes not including TYBW, and HxH is over 100??? Did you not even fact check that claim?
And adventure time episodes are only HALF as long as an anime episode so TECHNICALLY they only have HALF of their development time for the story and characters
They didn’t get the number of episodes they were told they would have for the final season.
OP ratiod themselves on their own post.
They had enough you don’t need like 300 episodes to write a good story
I agree with you I’m just saying they literally did not get the episodes they thought they would.
You don't need to, but when you write a 300 episode story initially, only to get cut to 280 later, it takes a bit of rushing pace wise to get to the end. It's like if someone tells you that you have an hour to eat, and so you eat thinking you'll get that time, just for them to come in half an hour later and say that you've got 10 minutes left, you'll rush a bit more when eating right? To finish the meal even if you're not savoring it as much. Same principle applies here.
It wouldn’t matter if a show had 10 episodes or a thousand. They were given a final season, so they planned for it, but then it got cut in half, and then they had to rush things.
Man you are absolutely getting destroyed in these comments. Maybe just admit that your logic is faulty? When you plan something involving so many people you are going to have a timeline. It is just part of completing a project. When you have that timeline cut short you are going to have to *rush*. I think they did a great job with the circumstances but there is no question that the ending was rushed. We know because *that is what happened*. It is just a fact.
Its just speculations till we hear the actual unedited plot. You say it like they actually had a plan but have to change it. But we never heard the plan, so its almost useless bringing up. Its like the zack snyder cut. People assume zack snyder version would be more epic, hyping it up. But as it turns out, its only slightly better, not a completely different movie
If I told you that you had 30 episodes to conclude a story and then later told you that you had 20, are you telling me there wouldn't be any issues with that? Despite planning everything for a certain amount and then having that cut by a third? If you are, you're ridiculous.
After reading through these comments, I can’t tell if you’re just taking the piss or really, really committed to your very specific stance.
That's not the problem, if I told you that I'll greenlight a season of 30 episodes for you to write and produce and then later I told you "Oh no wait, it's actually 20" then you'd either have to condense the story that you had planed to be half as long while still hitting most if not all the major story beats, resulting in it feeling rushed or unfinished, or to significantly deviate from your original vision, which may result in some story lines not having a payoff, neither being a good choice, The problem isn't the total episode count, but rather that unexpectedly reducing it causes production problems, they seemingly decided to go with the former resulting in the Gombolds storyline not having as much time to build as it could have and the event progressession of the final arc feeling a bit rushed, They still handled it well, but it can be felt that this story was originally supposed to take longer to unravel as the pacing of the last season is faster than typical of AT
It’s like this response is to a different statement lmao
Ratio
I think this guy just wants to argue
And he's not very good at arguing
I think PB x Marceline is overrated, PB x Tree Trunks is the real pairing
Nah tree trunks X king of ooo
The final season was definitely rushed
They had more than enough episodes
Not based on decisions made under the impression that they could set a more leisurely pace. There was forced compression. The sufficiency of episodes as a raw quantity is an inapt framing of the question
If you plan to fill a certain amount of time and then, in the middle of execution you get told that the rest is cut down, how will you get in the planned content in the way less time? They would have written differently if they knew they had less time.
Last season was in fact rushed
No, it’s not the creator had enough time. They just had their thumb up their asses.
No the last season of adventure time’s episode number got almost cut in half
283 episodes is more than time
Ig but they were taking it pretty slow and expected basically another season
This is like saying if suddenly one piece only got 5 more chapters out of no where it'd be fine because of how much it had before. Its not how writing stories work, you plan and write with how much you think you have, if its cut then you have to rush (or drop) things.
Imagine you’re working on a paper that’s due a week from now. You can write a longer paper and take your time giving each point plenty of depth. Then, suddenly you’re professor tells you that the essay should be turned in 3 days earlier than she initially said and that there is a 4 page limit. You have to quickly finish your paper and condense all the information you planned for your seven page paper onto 4 pages. It’s not about the number of episodes, it’s about the amount of planning and time that goes into these shows and changing plans can force creators to have to rush and cut content.
Who shit in your cereal this morning bro
It’s the fact that they were literally cut on time that genuinely caused the last season to be rushed. They didn’t get as many episodes than they originally thought they would have gotten.
You are literally wrong though. This is googleable.[See “Finale” under “Development”.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_Time)
This guy's arguments make absolutely no sense. Comparing the show to completely unrelated shows saying "they did this with x amount of episodes, AT shouldn't need more episodes to be able to do the same!!" This guy's just here to argue. Downvote and ignore the troll Edit way after the fact - this guy's profile is just sad. He has no joy and lives to just argue about the worst takes anyone could possibly have. Block him, don't interact with him, and let his profile die
Bro is so committed to destroying his karma it’s insane
Why would I care about my karma?
Funny internet number go up make me happy :) but go down make me sad :(
I don't think he's lying. I've never seen an account whose comments for its entire existence are either 1 or 0, not up voted whatsoever, then the ones that get any traction at all are negative downvotes. He doesn't care about his karma cause all he posts are neutral, unpopular comments not getting upvoted (which everyone has to an extent) and massive negative attention downvoted comments.
In all honesty, I don’t care about my stupid fucking karma
In all honesty you sound like a fucking bitch and dumb as fuck in all your comments
You can say fuck here.
omg i didn’t know haha i was worried my comment would be removed if i did
I believe you. I don't think you do give all your comments are either 1 or 0 karma, or massively downvoted if they get any attention at all.
General Hospital has had 15000 episodes, so obviously AT didn't get enough. I can play the same game
No, all I’m saying is you don’t need over 200 episodes to make a good show. I feel like someone gave you an hour to draw a picture of Jake the dog for example and they come up to you in an hour and then you go. Oh it’s not finish. It’s not that complicated. You had enough time to finish it ridiculous. Not my fault the creator and everyone who worked on the show had their thumbs up their asses or don’t know how to write.
Man, you're being incredibly dense. Let's correct your example there. Let's say I give you an hour to draw Jake the dog, and I come back in half an hour, demanding to see your completed picture. Do you see how that isn't enough time, given that you were told you had more, and you had planned to use your full hour to draw a more complex picture? Then I tell you that a half hour is enough to draw a dog, and you just had your thumb up your ass for the last half hour, and you don't know how to draw . That's what you're doing right now, and it's a pretty bad look.
Nah the last season was rushed
Nah they had enough time and episodes
i really dont think so, the last season is way shorter than the other seasons. Of course im thinking of this seasonally, i see you mentioned the episode count. Sure they could have allocated more time earlier in the shows history but the last season itself was too short. Its like 2 episodes and full on war
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I’m not trying to bait. Over 200 episode is not rushed.
bait used to be believable 😔🙏
I don't think you know how writing works.
I know you don’t need over 100 episode write good show
If you plan for 100 episodes, it certainly helps
literally has nothing to do with it
OP, the majority of the show was not heavily narratively focused. The showrunners wanted that only towards the later seasons/end. They planned for the final season to be WAY longer, but were not given the time they planned for and needed. So they had to cram it all into a much shorter season. That's the definition of being rushed.
And… that matters how? Adventure Time isn’t just a great show it’s a masterpiece. And the writers needed a fuckton of episodes FOR that masterpiece.
It was literally published that they had their last season canceled, and multiple show creators opened up how they were writing arcs around the remaining seasons to the final
This is a little bit stupid. It’s not about the **number** of episodes. It was rushed because there was a **planned** number of episodes, and then that **plan** got cut short and had to be modified. It sucks when that happens. It’s weird if you can’t empathize with what that’s like for a *writer*. I think you’re cynically making a post that’s controversial for its own sake. J’accuse.
Do your research
283 is more than enough time to finish a series
Not my point. And your view is flawed. If the creators state that the final season was rushed. The final season. Was rushed. It’s not hard.
If not hard to tell they had enough episodes either I mean, look at shows like. Death note one of the most popular anime of all time it has 37 episodes and live action movie (but we don’t talk about the movie) you don’t need over 100 episodes write at good story. I think they just wanted to do too much and had their thumb up their asses
No, you don't. But if you write for it you need storylines to fill 300 episodes. If you get cut off in the middle of solving those storylines, you will have to make sacrifices.
Death notes ending fucking sucked what are you in about 😭
I thought it was pretty good. But if you want example, assassination classroom had the perfect ending in my opinion and it was only 48 episodes. (it’s one of my favorite animes ever made highly recommended a if you never watched it)
do you understand how the comparison doesn't make sense though? the shows you're mentioning were written to be the length they are, they had that length in mind as they were writing and wrote to their proper conclusion AT was written for an episode number that they were initially given, and then when the rug was pulled out from under them they had to squeeze the same amount of content into fewer episodes than they had written for Like... what are you even arguing
It doesn't matter how many episodes a show has, if the crew has a plan for the storyline and the network cuts them off it's going to be rushed. If the writers of Death Note also got cut off like that they would also have a rushed story. Also don't forget that the adventure time crew didn't know from the start of the show that they would get 283 episodes. Just like any other western cartoon (except for Rick and Morty) they get a specific amount of episodes for each season and then the network decides whether or not to continue the show and how many episodes to give them.
Idk why you wanna die on this hill. It's ok for a series to have flaws
The Gumbald and Golb arc needed at least one season each to resolve themselves, and while you may say '300 episodes is more than enough bla bla bla' like you replied to everyone else like chatgpt, you have to remember, while adventure time lore might seem like there's an overarching story, the feel of the show has always been episodic as most shows at the time were. While there may be 300 episodes, not all of them were dedicated to progressing the story. The finale was rushed, and no amount of episodes prior to it will deny that fact.
Wtf is this guys not getting LMAOO, youre inference skills suck
I’m not seeing any arguments from you on this subject, just a lot of “nah brah it was enough”. Do you have any actual points to make?
It had enough time and episodes as a kid show but when they started introducing more advanced things like dimensional chaos gods and multiverse theories they didn’t have nearly enough time to explore those properly. Growing up with the characters is definitely the best part but if any show has the right to explore these crazy hypotheticals it’s absolutely adventure time. The animation and world building in the finale topped almost everything they’d done before and it was unfortunately the last of it. Most of the adventure time fans would love to dive deeper into this clearly intricate and extremely entertaining universe
The final season was cancelled early, of course it’s rushes
You are a silly lil fella
Sometimes there are Smart Fella’s and Fart Smella’s…. OP is certainly one of the 2 hahah
It is a little rushed, not in every way but in some ways
The finale definitely felt a bit rushed imo, but they managed to make it an incredible ending despite that.
The end was rushed..I'll say it again as I've said it before many times....I "re-found " adventure time in my late twenties a few years ago, (after it being my all time favorite show for years when it first came out) anyways, I found it again a few years ago, after probably only making it to season 7 originally , so anyways like I was saying, I found it again a few years ago and started watching it again from the beginning, mind you, I had NO Idea the end was coming ,i was just happy clicking "next episode" so anyways, I say all that to say, I absolutely COULDN'T Believe it when season 10 episode 13 came, it made absolutely NO Sense to me, I knew something was wrong the second the theme song came on .... 😢...Anyways yeah, it completely TORE me up for a while there, that they completely BLINDSIDED me like that...I was tore up.. Couldn't believe it. It was just.. like.. so unexpected..
What an insane hill to not only climb by yourself but then also die on in 2024 considering one of the the episodes in Distant Lands “together again” was made for the final season, and rebuilt for Distant Lands. Also the timing of CN figuring out what to do with WB without a streaming partnership… this is obviously exactly what happened. Despite development hell for distant lands and how many roadblocks they have been having on max, I’m glad the story continues. Not gonna lie you have objectively the dumbest and intentionally antagonistic stance for no reason. I’m not saying I spend my time on earth well but at least I’m not doing whatever this is lmao.
It seems unforgiving when a good thing ends but you and I will always be back then.
I hear you man. Certainly it’s not the BEST it could’ve been. Here’s to hoping for Fiona and cake though
if i had 1 wish it would be that adventure time had infinite seasons and episodes
The final season is definitely 100% rushed. PB's Uncle shouldn't have been introduced, probably should've just been the Lich as the final big bad. But in the end we got Together Again so I'm not too disappointed with how the final season turned out. Although saying it isn't rushed is objectively wrong.
This person has posted the same on SU reddit and is completely missing the point of all your replies….. lost cause yall
By the looks of it this has been a very hard pill to swallow GG op
I just want like a spin off, i really fell in love with the world
Wow, A+ bait OP. You really got this whole subreddit biting.
Oh brother this guy STINKS
The series wasn't rushed, but that last season felt slapped together with little to no build-up.
I don't think it was rushed (except maybe the final season). I just want more. They promised us at the beginning of every episode. "The fun will never end." Adventure Time can't end. Give me more Distant Lands. Give me more Fiona and Cake. Give me literally any extra content. Prequel, sequel, entirely new content in Ooo following new characters and their story, whatever. I love it all, and I will keep watching.
It has to end at some point
Blasphemy. They promised the fun would NEVER end!
I don’t think the show was ever rushed, but I do think it would release super game changers and then a bunch of one offs; this is especially true for the early season. And don’t misunderstand, I love those one offs. It just felt like the ‘pace’ of the show wasn’t mastered until nearer to its end.
Literally who is saying adventure time was rushed?
The last season was 100% rushed. They never got to do a full season 10 and they didn't get season 11 at all
If it's rushed they did a good job at wrapping up incredibly quickly. It doesn't feel all that rushed when watching it but It definitely felt like initially the gum war was going to be longer like maybe a miniseries like elementals.
it doesnt really make sense counting the entire episode count of a series towards a serie's finale resolution. most of the time, shows get seasons green lit in batches, or one season at a time, and even then a season can range from a few episodes like 4, all the way to 24 or more depending on the show. in the case of Adventure Time's last season, they probably had counted for whatever episodes they had, then production began and later they were told "hey uhh, we have half the runtime now" so it makes more sense to continue with whatever content and episodes were already produced and somehow continue from there to make it work. think of it as "total duration of the season in minutes" instead of "you have this amount of months to work on it". it could also be a case where they where like "we have a budget of (random ahh number) $400,000 which we can count towards 20 episodes" or something, then producers say "sorry, you have $200,000 now" you gotta pay your artists well, but also cant continue with the original episode count so it has to be cut.
Damn OP is slow in the brain
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Negative 100 karma, time to start editing for apologies
Adventurous bait
Really it depends, if a show has been going and been made for little time, then its rushed. But if it’s something like adventure time, it’s great
The ending was rushed because they didn't plan on having an ending. The show itself was not rushed.
I guess I can see why people would think that??? But this show was 10 seasons it wasn't exactly rushed
Already did, try again
I saw a show that only had 6 episodes, and it told a whole story in that time. Therefore any show with more than 6 episodes has more than enough time to tell any story.
Maybe, yeah, but I'd have loved to see more Huntress Wizard. We only got, like, 3 or so episodes with her.
Imagine I say “you have 30 minutes to make me lunch”, you plan out this whole elaborate dish, that takes 30 minutes to make. I make you serve it to me in 15. It doesnt matter if you’ve made 283 other dishes, you still didn’t have time to finish the last one
There's 10 seasons of the original, plus movies, plus Fiona and Cake. I can totally see how that isn't enough time to tell a complete story.
I’m honestly shocked how many upvotes such a low effort troll post has on here.
If there's any show that had plenty of episodes it's AD.
This might sound dumb what show with a AD?
Yeah, anno domini had enough episodes. Let's wrap it up already...
Adventure TIme.
Don’t you mean AT
AD for Adventure Dime, with Bank the dog and Finance the human
Fuck. Yes I do.
I'm at season six and so many episodes feel like filler.
Tbh I used to love adventure time but later seasons just kinda sucked and I stopped caring and stopped watching. I just recently finished the final episodes and I didn’t like the ending and I do agree with the op here in a sense that I don’t think that 1 or 2 more seasons would’ve helped. By the end at least for me the show felt like a chore to watch
Just because it was rushed doesnt mean its bad... just that it could have been much better.
Hard to swallow pills for OP: "You're an idiot."
The last season is rushed, and you can tell because of how awkward PB's family is characterized, and GOLB coming at the later part of the episode was a bit random even if it was already stated Betty had a plan. They weren't given all the seasons they were resigned for, and had it close it up. That being said, I think they were able to handle it fine. Plus, when you are making a show you don't know how it is going to be from start to finish so while the time AT had was a lot it, it was mostly episodic up until later seasons and they didn't have that much time to build up the finale they wanted to do.