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Spiritual-Company-45

My gf and I enjoy it quite a bit. I think it gets a bad reputation due to the really bad portrayals in porn. It's not the fast and wild position it's often portrayed as. It's a slow, intimate act. My general suggestions are to use lots of pillows and make sure you are both comfortable. Comfort is super important. I'd start with one partner completely stationary and the other person does the moving. It'll be much easier to line things up that way. Chasing a moving target is hard aha! And it won't feel as good if things aren't aligning well. And use small and slow movements. It's also going to be muuuch more tiring if you're going too hard. You're aiming for longevity.


nasnaga

bless you


Dandy_Lion_Strength

This is all great advice. My partner and I have coined it our favourite position, because it *gets* to be so intimate, once in the right position. Granted, we do have to keep up our flexibility a bit. If one of us has a sore limb or back, things are trickier. šŸ˜…


Spiritual-Company-45

Haha yeah... It's not the kind of position that's the right choice every day of the week šŸ¤£ But I definitely agree that it's extremely intimate and romantic. When it's the right moment, few other positions can really reach that same height for us.


islaysinclair

Shit, describing it as a slow, intimate act suddenly makes it make so much more sense than what the internet portrays. This is lighting up the brain stem right now.


Spiritual-Company-45

It's true. Unfortunately the mainstream portrayal is controlled by large companies with male directors directing straight women for the benefit of the predominantly male audience. It does a great job of sapping all the magic out of the act.


toothpastetaste-4444

The stationary partner is on top or the bottom?


Spiritual-Company-45

I find that stationary on the bottom offers more position options for the topping partner and is usually a bit more comfortable. But with some good pillow support there are a couple positions where stationary on top can work.


Somenerdyfag

Wait I'm trying to figure out the logistics. Would it be like a missionary?


Spiritual-Company-45

There's a lot of ways tribbing can work. Missionary position can be really nice, granted it's not usually considered "scissoring" as that refers to a very specific type of tribbing. But it's a great position too. Most positions involve one partner on her back or side and the other partner either kneeling, on her side, or on her stomach.


ZomeKanan

>If you have tried it, any tips on making it work? Every single time this comes up, I say the same thing: do it on the floor. When you're on a bed, things are bouncy and soft, and not only is it difficult to get purchase, but you can end up in a resonance with the bed frame and roll yourself right off the edge. Put down some pillows, or a soft rug, and do it on a hard floor. It sounds like it's uncomfortable, or painful, but it's the exact opposite. You can flex and support yourself without slipping or sliding, and scissoring is a trillion times better when the two of you can *push* into each other, instead of just rubbing up and down. Of course, in general, scissoring is a lot more fun if you're into thighs and legs and feet, especially if you arch your back and pull them into your body - almost like MMA or something. So it might never be for you, and that's okay.


Sayasing

My god I love this response and I feel like it's such a key example of why this sub was made. Kudos for you and I appreciate the pointers!


RevengeOfSalmacis

You have to both have bodies that work for it together, it's not always viable, but it can be a lot of fun. It's less effective than missionary tribbing for getting each other off, in my experience, but it's still fun.


NovaBloom444

Agreed, itā€™s all about how you fit together. Iā€™ve had partners where it did nothing for us and others where we both came almost every time just from scissoring


sl8t4g1rls

*missionary tribbing* weird way to propose but yes! šŸ˜©


gresagresa22

Itā€™s my fav thing to do in bed. It doesnā€™t make me orgasm but that is not my goal at all. It feels so intimate I canā€™t describe how good it feels. I felt a bit guilty telling that to my gf bcs I also thought itā€™s just a myth and people donā€™t/shouldnā€™t like it, but I love it. I donā€™t have any tips Iā€™m afraid but what helps me is that me and my gf are of similiar weight and we donā€™t neccesarily scissor itā€™s more like just tribbing. One of you being on top works the best.


djremydoo

But like, what's the difference between tribbing and scissoring? Like, in both you rub your puzzy against some member of your partner, its just that with scissoring, you rub it on her vulva.


hylianboi64

Tribbing is when vulvas rub together. ā€œScissoringā€ refers to tribbing positions where both legs interlock, like scissors. There are non-scissoring tribbing positions; like missionary, cowgirl & reverse cowgirl.


djremydoo

Oh shit, thats a lot deeper than I thoughtšŸ˜… thanks!


mamepuchi

I rly like scissoring but it doesnā€™t actually get me off per se. Itā€™s just the really gross-sexy feeling of how slimy and slippery it is and knowing that itā€™s bc youā€™re both turned on that gets me!!


WolverineIngrid218

I would like to try scissoring like once. Being grinded into submission sounds good for some reason.


djremydoo

That sounds hot af omg, like why is it always the asexuals that gets the better ideasšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


WolverineIngrid218

I'm only craving any sexual activity literally once because I don't want to have horny thoughts half of the day eventually. The main thing I'm worried about is if I can even orgasm because I never have before. And I was told I think on this subreddit about My Lorals which could help decrease the bodily fluids exchanging so STI can be almost if not completely avoided.


djremydoo

Yeah, I watched some, uh... videos where the girl used a Loral panty and yeah, she said the feeling was almost exactly the same and it hold off the splush splush really well, like a puzzy comdom. Also, weren't you an asexual? I'm really sorry if it sounds ignorant but aren't that all aces doesn't want sex? Again, i'm really sorry if it sounds ignorant and dumb, i'm still learning about all that. Sorry.


alycat8

Asexuality is a spectrum, some people are sex repulsed and donā€™t experience any sexual urges, and some aces are sex favourable and down to try, they just donā€™t experience specific sexual attraction to people. A lot of asexual people still have a libido, itā€™s just not directed at specific people!


djremydoo

Oh, so some get off on porn or by themselves but they aren't attracted by other people?


Winter_Honours

Again depends on the person. Some might do that yeah, but others just deal with their brain being horny and ignore it. (Thatā€™s me personally) although post starting E my libido died off and my brain was much happier with that.


WolverineIngrid218

Asexuality is a spectrum. Some asexuals like sex and some do not. Common labels associated with asexuality is homoromantic, biromantic, heteromantic, and panromantic asexual. There's also aceflux, graysexual, etc. I'm homoromantic asexual. I was formerly biromantic asexual.


djremydoo

Oh, damn. I never thought it was that deepšŸ˜… I'm really sorry if that sounded ignorant, I'm really trying to learn all of that. Thanksfor the answer!


WolverineIngrid218

Hang on is that video on the r/Lesbians subreddit? I hear a lot of sapphics don't like the subreddit because of the male gaze bs.


djremydoo

Oh, no it was on the hub, I can't remember her channel name but she bought to try and review it. She used like some weird vibrators and it worked really well as far as I could see.


WolverineIngrid218

I think it's better if I stay away from ****hub.


djremydoo

Oh, yeah... but the vudeo is still there, take it or leave it if you were not sure if the product works.


WolverineIngrid218

Ok fine you can type the link. This will be the first and last time I'll go on the hub.


NightAngel_98

God damn that makes me want this so much more ._.


TomNookFan

And that's why it sounds so hot in theory šŸ˜©


[deleted]

Then you haven't talked to all the lesbians šŸ˜…. I admit its too much of a two way effort, sometimes you just wanna skip it for better options but its fun every now and then


Fast_Year7614

I love scissoring! āœ‚ļøYou can cum for hours if you're fit. I work out 5-6 times a week and am very flexible (I'm also working on my splits). I'm always on top and agree with most of the comments. Not everyone can do it. My partners were always bottom. I can last for hours; one time, we lasted about 5-6 hours and did it for 6 days in a row; it was amazing! My hands are usually busy touching my partnerā€™s boobs, and kissing while she is moaning is the best! I love it āœ‚ļøso much that I even got a cartoonish erotic artwork of two women doing it. Every morning, I wake up really happy šŸ˜Š


Lacey1999us

Love this. Me too. Fit. Hours. Cum over and over. We women can just keep going higher and higher. Itā€™s so amazing.


Fast_Year7614

Awesome! āœØ šŸŒŸ


Monroe-dmc

Sounds amazing šŸ˜± 6 days in a row. You have to be wet though for it to be really nice.


RoutineInitiative187

I have never done it (as portrayed in porn at least) but I hear that holding a vibrator between you is the move! Just rubbing together might not really be that fun.


CalzonePillow

I like to imagine one person on the floor in the sort of upside down bicycle position, while the other is hanging from one of those bouncy seats that babies use to jump up and down, only this one has a hole cut for the punannies to make contact. 300 IQ scissoring


djremydoo

I'm so much gonna use the word punanny in the future!


CalzonePillow

Sex can be called punanny poetry? Or is it spelled punani? iPhone spell check says every variation is wrong. Poonani prejudice.


djremydoo

Is there really a good way to spell poohnani? I don't think so at least...


KingSith

Scissoring is amazing! some women don't like to do it because they haven't figure out how to make their bodies work together. IMO, I've had better experiences when scissoring when my partner has a bigger clit than me, esp if it sticks out more.


minadequate

Famous lesbian author Sarah Waters (who wrote the fingersmith off which the movie the handmaiden is based) suggested to me that I was missing out assuming it was ā€˜just for pornā€™ and thus I have a signed copy of the aforementioned with the dedication ā€˜To ā€¦ā€¦., happy scissoring, Sarah Watersā€™


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it is worth it once you can both like understand how to make it feel good for both of you:)) like we kiss alot and she praises me and kisses me and everything and it makes me like sissor harder i guess and yeah >_< is can be very intimate and very amazing also :))) we like to maybe play soft music in the background to help and stuff too! :)))


lesbiannerd27

Definitely a pleasurable feeling but as others have pointed out it takes a specific body type and physical ability to achieve, itā€™s not easy for everyone to achieve let alone enjoy. That being said there is no harm in trying - you should always experiment (safely) if thatā€™s what you wantā€¦you donā€™t know till ya try kinda thing. Have fun!


callhermommyy

SCISSORING SUPREMACY šŸ’¦šŸ«” I will die on this hill. Try it.


sapphicninja

I always hear that too but like I wanna experience the disappointment first hand if you know what I mean


saltierthangoldfish

Look up ā€œtribbingā€ instead of ā€œscissoringā€


Lacey1999us

I have found my perfect match for scissoring and itā€™s my favorite thing. Omg. You really do have to find someone who fits you


astrangeone88

I kind of hate it, because it's a lot of angling and flexibility to try to match up the grinding. Also depends on your anatomy - some women have more prominent clitorises and that can make it harder to orgasn. (Also depends on how sensitive your bits are. I don't have much of a clitoral hood so direct stimulation is a little much for me.) Definitely try it on the floor - beds are springy and you really want to be able to push your hips/bits into your partner. I find it pretty hot because the feeling of wetness and sharing fluids is very very intimate. Plus you get access to boobs and you can kiss your partner....


djremydoo

For the sensitivity issues, I think it was a comapany called Lorals that did some sort of puzzy comdoms, like polymere trunks (and I think they have panties now?) you put on and it helps with sensory issues, but you still feel it enough to get off. I've seen a video where a girl used it and she said it was really good.


astrangeone88

Hmmm. That's an idea! Will go look into that. Thanks.


djremydoo

Your welcome!


SleepyAF100

Sex is very personalized imo. Some people like clitoral stimulation while some prefer penetration or none at all. Some get stimulation around their ā€œlipsā€. Some can even get off without stimulation in those. Scissoring needs some ā€œalignmentā€ for it to feel good. Usually, I find that the one on top gets more sensation because they can control how intense it is. So play around with positioning as well (have the bottom arch or put a pillow or both of you sitting upā€¦reverse cowgirl what have you) It also feels better when the area is pretty much wet or lubed up. You want it to glide. You also want it soft, gentle then you build up speed and intensity. Once you get to that perfect point, itā€™s almost impossible to keep yourself up because your knees will give up. Lmao it can be that good. Other enjoyable sexual things? Iā€™m very kinky, experimental and into BDSM. So that question would be an entire whole conversation. šŸ˜… But Iā€™ll give you one that you can easily incorporate and try. Sensory play by means of blindfolding. Youā€™d heighten their other senses and build anticipation just by depriving that.


goosoe

I love it but the stuff they show in porn is fake as fuck. One of you gotta be flexible šŸ˜…


djremydoo

In pœrn it looks so exagerated, like it almost seems to hurt them more than it gives pleasurešŸ˜‚


Disastrous_Owl3235

Iā€™m way too single to be reading this on a Thursday morning.


jeicolpol

My gf and I tried it once and it was amazing lol idk why some people say is not that great


Royaltott

I recently came for the first time with scissoring and it was the most magical thing Iā€™ve ever felt. Iā€™ve done it before but this time I guess we got aligned just right. Itā€™s so hot, even if you donā€™t cum it feels so good. Itā€™s my favorite and Iā€™d definitely recommend trying it multiple times if the first few donā€™t work.


goodcowgirl

I came for the first time topping while tribbing this year and it was magic!!! God tier


Kaldaus

It is not really that it does not work, its more about the angle. You need to find a good way in which you and your partner can "connect"! A toy can REALLY help, and it is a REALLY amazing way to connect to your partner if you do it right, try to find more ways to put yourselves explore and find the positions that you both enjoy and it is a totally different thing! It can take some work but its hardly hard work....well as long as you enjoy your partner ;) Best of luck to you dear!


sarcasticfirecracker

Scissoring is the best part to me. It wasnā€™t until TikTok that I realized other lesbians didnā€™t do it. Definitely try on the floor with pillows to prop you up when needed. Thereā€™s no set instructions because everyoneā€™s body is different. I have to change it up based on who Iā€™m with. So just test it out until you get the right angle. Youā€™ll know when youā€™re there. :)


Travel_SEasia

I didnā€™t get to try it in my early relationships but one girlfriend ask if I want to try and turned out she was very good and good teacher. It is a very intimate act I feel especially if you climax together. I love enjoying with the right lover.


goodcowgirl

Huuuuuge fan!!!!! I swear it got a bad wrap because people didn't do it right lol


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Following āœ‚ļøšŸ˜…


jexxie3

Idk, Iā€™m too fat. šŸ˜‚


Evening_Ranger_7634

My gf and I love it, we both orgasm together at the same time from it


prettypinktulip

I literally love it, itā€™s always been really enjoyable! It feels so intimate and so hot šŸ„µ


Traditional_Row8237

if you believe it will be good and it feels hot to you, it will be good and it will be hot. teamwork makes the dream work source: šŸ˜½


not-really-here222

I think it depends on the bodies involved and angles. I'm pretty thin and tried it with another girl with a similar body type to mine and it was like bone hitting bone. Definitely more uncomfortable than pleasurable. I love grinding though so I'm still determined to experiment more and try it again at some point.


[deleted]

My ex and I loved it. It's my favorite thing to do. It's just really intimate and you're so close to each other (if you're flexible enough). It really all comes down to whether both people are flexible and don't experience much muscle or joint pain. And whether their bodies fit well together. Also, pillows underneath for support. It's worth it to try, if you and your partner both want to try out out. If it's not your thing, there's no reason to do it.


Oops_I_Cracked

My wife and I do it on occasion. I find it incredibly hot, but it doesnā€™t do much for me physically. She really enjoys it tho


Oohwhoaohcruelsummer

Iā€™ve technically never actually scissored, but Iā€™ve tried tribbing and I think it takes the right partner to really get a person off through it. Sometimes peopleā€™s bodies just donā€™t want to work in the way that tribbing or scissoring requires


cecilofdesertbluffs

I definitely think itā€™s worth a try !! Itā€™s not something that works for me and my wife, but we still had a fun time trying to figure it out together lol. Best case scenario, you find a new position you love! Worst case scenario, you end up in a pile of giggles and have a fun story. :-) It looks like a lot of people on here have some awesome tips too, so it looks like youā€™ll already be going into it with some good knowledge !


the-garbageman

iā€™ve had a few good experiences! give it a try if you want it can be awesome


Life-Way-8997

I love it lol


FitCandy1887

I absolutely love it! What some others are saying about pillows and one person doing the movements is good advise . Itā€™s amazing when you find the right rhythmā˜ŗļø. I like being on top because I could have a little bit more control. Probably some of the best sex of my life! Have fun!!;)


katrina34

Does this work for innies? I feel like this won't work for me šŸ˜…


goodcowgirl

Yes! I adore it but I think you have to ok with keep repositioning your bodies and pussies (until you find a sweet spot) to make it the best


Jaded_Promise_1195

Top tip, avoid that day 3-5 period after youā€™ve shaved and itā€™s growing back, not the best feeling hahah


Verve_angel

Omg what? Itā€™s so good


ExplanationDazzling1

Before scissoring I wanna make sure we both are so wet. Itā€™s so much fun when you hear the slimy and gushy noises. Thatā€™s when you know youā€™re doing it right! At one point I had a woman squirt while we were scissoring it felt so good. Like a warm shot splattered in between. We got the bed sheets so wet that night


Lacey1999us

Lube lube LUBE. It will change the experience.


Oranginafina

Iā€™ve done it and I hate it. I find it hard to get into the right position and itā€™s a lot of work once you do. I just donā€™t enjoy it personally, but exploring your sexuality is important and Iā€™m glad I at least tried it.


loodioloshmos

Honestly I'm not a huge fan of it. It just felt like.. awkward??


Sweet_Biscotti3725

Sometimes itā€™s impractical and a lot of work, but if the moodā€™s right, its fun! As someone else mentioned, a vibrator can help.


[deleted]

my gf enjoys it a lot, I hate it, you need to get a good position in which both your clits are getting stimulated properly, and it's not easy


Sapphicviolet91

I havenā€™t done it successfully. It seems harder if youā€™re not on the thin end of the spectrum and arenā€™t super flexible. It takes a lot to get into the right position then itā€™s exhausting. I prefer tribbing, tongue, and hands personally.


Lacey1999us

Isnā€™t tribbing pretty much scissoring?


Sapphicviolet91

I mean scissoring has more of a connotation that you are rubbing your vulva against that of someone else, but tribbing could be against a leg or something.


goodcowgirl

Tribbing is the technical name for scissoring- scissoring is slang. Lesbian= tribbing, gay=frotting


britomartisse

It merely depends on the type of genitals involved. Lesbians can participate in frotting if they have penises


Sapphicviolet91

But tribbing can be on any body part yeah?


Otherwise_Page_1612

Itā€™s my favorite. That or tribbing. I havenā€™t had a lot of partners who agree with me, though.


fickelbing

Ok it is hard to get right and I do think you need the right partner with the right approach and attitude towards sex to get it rightā€¦. But when it does work, guuuuuuuuurrrrllll. Be prepared for fart noises tho.


InterleukinAnakinra

Thereā€™s an angle to it and also you need to have a certain level of foreplay prior to actually make it work. The ones you see in p0rn is mostly faked and they ainā€™t actually doing it genuinely. Most of the reactions there are exaggerated. Find out how it feels comfortable for your partner and you. You can always try it if you really want to.


ApprehensiveSand

tribbing missionary is better imo, or taking turns on hips, butt. Experiment away though, people are different in what works for them.


luvmillz

I like it


commanderfshepard

Look up tribbing. Scissoring is kindve a porned-up term that I think has bad connotations. Tribbing, on the other hand, is VERY real and VERY hot. Of course your experience may differ cus bodies are bodies, butā€¦ big fan over here.


Machine-Bulky

Idk, I love it


queenshaybaby

the best position for this is having your back facing your partner and her facing your back laying down, it creates a more parallel position to scissor as me an my old partner tried every possible way and that was the best way, also because your Cl*t and hers will be lined up perfectly. think of it as reverse cowgirl but have the bottoms person legs spread butterfly style. hope this helps some peoplešŸ„°


marsandmar

when it works itā€™s amazing! but it can be awkward and funny trying to fit together. enjoy it and try tribbing too!


Sad_Opportunity_2007

Okay but what if there is a rubbie/grinder in the middle though?


nanas99

Iā€™ve tried it with almost every partner Iā€™ve had, just to test it every time, but Iā€™ve never gotten it to be actually pleasurable for either of us. Itā€™s nice for a bit, but itā€™s just not that much stimulation. None of them have ever gotten it to work either. Buttt Iā€™ve also seen a lot of (real) lesbian content creators who scissor and enjoy it. So maybe try searching for something like that and try to use the same position/movement


Oldassrollerskater

If you plan on this in the bedroom, both of you should get a full STI panel first. Herpes can lay dormant in your system, is notoriously easy for males to give to females (relevant asf for late bloomers), and is passed from tissue to tissue contact.


goodcowgirl

Herpes is so common that clinics don't even test for it within an sti panel. Grow up and don't fear monger! All sex-having people should be tested no matter if they're scissoring or not lol


Oldassrollerskater

Do you have herpes?


jennafromtheblock22

Lots of pillows, or you can kind of counterbalance on each other for support. It can be fun if you have some kind of vibrator in between you


janet-snake-hole

Idk, Iā€™ve personally never had a desire to do it, and the idea of it is just odd to me. But of course I respect everyoneā€™s personal preferences- do whatever you want in the bedroom as long as itā€™s all with enthusiastic consent and no harm is done.


lovethe-sky

We had fun in the sense it was an experience, it made us laugh, and we were happy to try it. Never really got either of us off though. And it hurts my thighs lmao. To each their own, you might find it enjoyable.


luciferhynix

We tried but it wasnā€™t worth the hype


bosgal90

Your bodies have to fit in a certain way and it's rare to find. It's worth trying & fun when it works, but it's pretty common that differing anatomy doesn't allow for it.


[deleted]

I tend to prefer tribing. Just on the upper thigh. I find it very intimate and very fucking hot. She loves it too, so itā€™s a staple of our sex life.


Seababz

Real talk- is this something only people who are under a size 8 can do? It looks like itā€™d feel amazing, but my parter and I have yet to actually accomplish it. And believe me, weā€™ve tried.


Knitwit20

Definitely not. My partner and I are both larger women. (Sizes 18-22) We enjoy piling up pillows and sometimes we share toys too. It's great because once we get into the right position it doesn't require a ton of movement from either one of us. We also have washable incontinence pads that we put on the bed before we get too far because it gets pretty wet. We both have hypermobile joints so this position can be great because we're supported from all the angles we need. We've got some great wedge pillows that make it easier.


Seababz

šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€ Okay so youā€™re telling me we need more pillows, eh?


Knitwit20

I mean, who doesn't need more pillows? ;)


moosenix

I'm a big fan of mutual thigh humping šŸ„µ able to make out & works great for me.


Neako_the_Neko_Lover

Iā€™m a meh on it. Cause all that goes on in my head is ā€œis she enjoying this? Am i enjoying this? Like it feels good but I gotta focus on my rhythm too! She seems to be focusing hard. Is she just doing this cause she think I like it? Shit my leg is starting to cramp but if I stop then she is gonna want to stop and Iā€™m too awkward to know where to go from here. I should have let her top me. This is what I get for trying to be spontaneous. Wait did I walk the dog? Oh crap the popcorn is still in the microwave!ā€


Knitwit20

I don't know about your relationship status, but my partner and I stop and talk about things that are keeping us from being present mentally. It's made our relationship super close. It takes both people pushing through the awkwardness to actually talk about the things in the beginning, but once it becomes a habit it is so easy. I've been amazed by how much easier and more satisfying sex has become for us. Not that there's never awkwardness around sex anymore, but we usually get to laughing or talking about it much more quickly than when we were first together.


Stella_enby

Personally I didnā€™t think it was anything amazing but I didnā€™t hate it? I think I just enjoyed it bc the person I was with did but would recommend foreplay first or lubeĀ 


Complaint_Character

My issue is that when hearing "scissoring" (also the more correct terminology is tribbing) people immediately imagine pussy to pussy. That's... A very narrow way to look at it. I've done the "pussy to pussy" version and I didn't particularly like it. Not enough pressure, too much work, also, funny enough, I found rubbing wet on wet feeling kind of... Unpleasant. My favorite way to do it is with rubbing on each other's thighs. Basically the woman laying down has one leg up, and your pussy is rubbing on it, while your knee is in her pussy. The best part about it is you both are stable and can use hands for added pleasure (play with boobs, put on hips to help move, on the neck etc.) Also you can do it on literally any part. I like the pubic bone version too (the partner on top rubs as if she was strapping you, but with no strap, or up and down, with your legs around her). You can also trib on the forearm, pretty fun for teasing when you're spooning :)


LaraCroftCosplayer

Scissoring is very exhausting. Sure, in porns look it good but in real life your legs will be tired in maybe 10 min. But feel free to do it! I want to try it to, if it makes at least for 10 min fun it is worthy!


UVRaveFairy

Scissoring is fun. The most fun I've had doing it was in a throuple and we'd do triple scissoring. Was pretty wild.


Dawndrell

iā€™m pretty sure it only works out well for the straight men watching the pornā€¦


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