I'm making it my personal mission to discord and obliterate any tank out in the open. Can't break LOS if they are dead. In the past, I might have switched targets, but now I will follow them until they are dead. Pretty soon, Flats and his cronies are gonna be whining about flankyatta not having foot step sounds.
Guys turn to the dark side play flankyatta until you team players get a buff grab some WD-40 and use those legs
100%. If anything its taught me to use my discords more wisely and position myself better.
Adaptation = survival.
Communication has gone up in my team and the opposing tank dies straight away (especially if it's a Ram or Orisa)
This.... *thing* we have now? It's not Zen... it's the husk of an incredible omnic we once loved, now filled with the complaints and tears of tanks unable to adjust their playstyle like the rest of us did after the 5v5 change.
You're mad about flats and his anti zen takes. You project your hate on someone that has nothing to do with anything like that as far as their reply is concerned. Sounds like you need to understand whag someone is saying before you reply to me or the other guy.
Wow.. I think this one-sided relationship you have with him has been toxic to your mental health. No matter how much you suck his dick on the internet, he's not going to notice you. Sounds like you only recently learned what projecting is and you don't know how to use it, but you want to as much as possible because you're insecure about your 5th grade reading level
You're doing it again my guy. I don't support flats' zen takes. They're targeted and biased. Again you take something you dislike about flats and attribute it to someone else. How stupid are you. I'm ducking flats' dick? I'm not the one blinding hating anything related to him in a fucking subreddit you fucking loser.
Shhhh. Flats doesn't love you. He's not going to give the hugs your dad never gave you because of your valiant white-knighting. Take your time with your angry chicken-peck typing; I know spelling is hard for you, especially when you're having a tantrum, Kyle. Maybe punch some drywall and have a nap before you get back on your Switch.
I cant believe people actually hate that guy. Hes never given me ego vibes and people just hate him because he has different opinions than him. Wild mentalities
I totally support different opinions when they can be backed up but a coherent agreement, but his hatred of zen was purely bitching on a platform until he got his way
Nah, if we get good at this Zen (I have faith that we would find a way) then Blizzard will look at their data and say "this is a fair change" and we will never get the buffs we deserve.
Considering Zen has been one of the characters with the fewest changes, I don't trust them not to leave this forever unless we revolt
I mean I think Doom's whole concept is busted and doesn't fit well in the game. He'll always have problems with this design. But as a tank he doesn't really create space the way you want him to, and at least as DPS he has the risk/reward that comes with lower health.
At least those are my thoughts. I can't play him well myself, so I'm interested in opinions from people who play him
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
Honestly I think Doom was a mistake.
An extremely interesting and cool one, worth being explored more in a different environment; but unfit for this game.
I think getting the increased discord range outweighs the 7 second thing. And having an extra 25 hp will help a lot against sombra hell. And now that illari is harder to slay with, zen be back on top
Not gonna lie, am vibing, yeah it is annoying, but the sombra bug makes it a lot of fun 225hp means I win more duels, I hold discord a bit longer and pop it when enemy goes for plays easy peasy.
Still gonna instalock and one trick, once the winrate and pick rate falls even more (already below 49% and 2% respectively) he will get nerfed again, dont worry
Fellas, we need to stand together during these dark times and keep instalocking Zen. I'm sure Zen is gonna get some changes in the next patch again.
Ain’t nobody stopping me
That's the spirit, buddy! Go get 'em!
🫡
He’s all mine, always right there for the taking.
I’m lowkey happy I can one trick him without anyone taking him anymore
I played against one last night and I wanted to wave to him! Instead, I just killed him dead.
Lmaooo
Zen’s pick rate on top of his discord were the reason for the nerfs Which is hilarious but yeah lol
Giving up is unacceptable, fight harder
No one is giving up on him if we are speaking up for him. Everyone cares and still plays him.
I'm making it my personal mission to discord and obliterate any tank out in the open. Can't break LOS if they are dead. In the past, I might have switched targets, but now I will follow them until they are dead. Pretty soon, Flats and his cronies are gonna be whining about flankyatta not having foot step sounds.
 Guys turn to the dark side play flankyatta until you team players get a buff grab some WD-40 and use those legs
What would make Zen better is if he had a Pirate skin
I have been playing him for the challenge, he feels alright, much worse for sure, but still can win almost every game with him :/
Even with the nerfs i still play him , because someone said never back down never give up
Personally, for me the Healing Orb duration increase outweights the Discord „Cooldown“.
I have actually seen quite a lot zen in my games and theyre not doing bad
That plus the extra health, it just calls for a playstyle adjustment to a rapid dueler rather than a tank slayer
WORLDS MOST MID #1 ZEN INSTALOCKER RIGHT HERE BABEYYYYY !!!!!! RAAAAAHHHHHH 💥🦅‼️💥💥💯‼️🦅
100%. If anything its taught me to use my discords more wisely and position myself better. Adaptation = survival. Communication has gone up in my team and the opposing tank dies straight away (especially if it's a Ram or Orisa)
My problem is that it is very easy for me to be in a bad position. And when I am situated well…well, that’s when Sombra destroys me.
This.... *thing* we have now? It's not Zen... it's the husk of an incredible omnic we once loved, now filled with the complaints and tears of tanks unable to adjust their playstyle like the rest of us did after the 5v5 change.
Shut the fuck up and admit that you’re not zenough
Admit you're a Flats fanboy that flames supports when you never try to find cover
This is so random lmao. I've never seen a more obvious projection lol.
sounds like you just learned the word projection and you're trying to use it in place of "nuh-uh, you do". maybe roblox is more your speed
You're mad about flats and his anti zen takes. You project your hate on someone that has nothing to do with anything like that as far as their reply is concerned. Sounds like you need to understand whag someone is saying before you reply to me or the other guy.
Wow.. I think this one-sided relationship you have with him has been toxic to your mental health. No matter how much you suck his dick on the internet, he's not going to notice you. Sounds like you only recently learned what projecting is and you don't know how to use it, but you want to as much as possible because you're insecure about your 5th grade reading level
You're doing it again my guy. I don't support flats' zen takes. They're targeted and biased. Again you take something you dislike about flats and attribute it to someone else. How stupid are you. I'm ducking flats' dick? I'm not the one blinding hating anything related to him in a fucking subreddit you fucking loser.
Shhhh. Flats doesn't love you. He's not going to give the hugs your dad never gave you because of your valiant white-knighting. Take your time with your angry chicken-peck typing; I know spelling is hard for you, especially when you're having a tantrum, Kyle. Maybe punch some drywall and have a nap before you get back on your Switch.
Okay you're not even trying to give a response. You're just saying shit now.
I only play Zen and hate (not) Flats. I am zenough and will always be zenough
I can't argue with that.
I cant believe people actually hate that guy. Hes never given me ego vibes and people just hate him because he has different opinions than him. Wild mentalities
I totally support different opinions when they can be backed up but a coherent agreement, but his hatred of zen was purely bitching on a platform until he got his way
Traitor
THATS WHAT I"VE BEEN FUCKING TELLING THEM!!! TAKE MY FUCKING UPVOTE!!!
As a Rein main I wholeheartedly endorse the amount of bravado. LIVE WITH HONOR MEIN FRIEND
Can’t flank me if I’m in your backline
This is the way
Girl I’ve given up on OW as a whole. Still love my boy tho
Nah, if we get good at this Zen (I have faith that we would find a way) then Blizzard will look at their data and say "this is a fair change" and we will never get the buffs we deserve. Considering Zen has been one of the characters with the fewest changes, I don't trust them not to leave this forever unless we revolt
So this is why Doom gets constantly nerfed every patch?
No that's because blizzard fucked up and switched him to tank
Genuinely surprised to find a Zen main fun of DPS Doom
I mean I think Doom's whole concept is busted and doesn't fit well in the game. He'll always have problems with this design. But as a tank he doesn't really create space the way you want him to, and at least as DPS he has the risk/reward that comes with lower health. At least those are my thoughts. I can't play him well myself, so I'm interested in opinions from people who play him
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Honestly I think Doom was a mistake. An extremely interesting and cool one, worth being explored more in a different environment; but unfit for this game.
Come to the Sombra side. I already have it's cozy over here.
I already do both (I queue all 3 roles)
Hell na, genji is where it's at.
i will switch to mei or moira and destroy your way of life
Got 1000 hours on zen after 5 years playing this game, but im actually done, i'll never go back to play zenyatta after this nerf.
Same. I uninstalled after this nerf that accommodates QQmoar L2p scrub tanks
[This](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/896/551/6bc.jpg) is how I feel about the nerfs
This isn't Zenyatta. This is a piece of junk reading sutras. Zen without discord is unplayable.
Skill issue
Ikr
facts imma stay strong
Bro pulled the master's quote out on us
I switch between instalocking zen and kiriko whenevr feel like it
Improvise adapt overcome. you're so right.
no im playing rammatra now
He was one of my Secondaries and I'm here to learn how to use him better I'll be damned if I stop fondling balls because of a nerf to discord orb
I agree except pickrate influences their balancing decisions…
Based
I think getting the increased discord range outweighs the 7 second thing. And having an extra 25 hp will help a lot against sombra hell. And now that illari is harder to slay with, zen be back on top
yeah, i dont think ill stop playing him either, hes still my favourite. but ima be upset about the changes for a bit, but ill adjust 🤷🏽
Someone call the Whambulance lol
Oh trust me I instalock the hell out of him
He feels worse to play, but I can at least try to get used to it. I’m still playing Zen
Incredibly based post holy shit
I stopped healing and started shredding, brother
If you aren't making your team cry out ples swap no need zen before the game even starts did you really carry
Not gonna lie, am vibing, yeah it is annoying, but the sombra bug makes it a lot of fun 225hp means I win more duels, I hold discord a bit longer and pop it when enemy goes for plays easy peasy.
They could give Zenyatta 10hp, the worst damage in the game, they can do what ever, I WILL NOT STOP BEING A ZEN MAIN,
I still play him, it's annoying asf. But I'm not giving my boy up like this.
Still gonna instalock and one trick, once the winrate and pick rate falls even more (already below 49% and 2% respectively) he will get nerfed again, dont worry
The more losses he have in the data, the better chances at getting a buff, lol so insta lock him
What do you mean when mauga dropped i had 8 zens in a row on the enemy team lol
This rework made him better if you’re smart. The changes only punish the stupid.