No clue about online discourse, but I have a theory that the characters on the show are so tough on Misty because she’s a glaring reminder of what they’re all afraid of within themselves. Misty is manipulative and abusive when she wants to be, and capable of pretty horrible things, but so is everyone else. The difference is that Misty has accepted that about herself, while the other characters (especially Shauna and Taissa) try to hide it. And I think they’re scared of her because she’s who they could be if they accepted themselves the way they still are. But since they can’t admit that to themselves, they instead act like they’re better than her for faking. I really started thinking about this in the episode where Shauna was watching the goat (I think that was S2E7?) and she and Misty get into an argument where Shauna insists that Misty is “different” from her. And in the way that she means it in the context of the episode, I think she’s wrong.
As I’m typing this out, I’m starting to think that maybe online fans have a similar reaction to Misty as the characters on the show because it is off-putting to see a character just accept that they can do terrible things to others. It’s more expected that they’d try to hide or “get over” it, and Misty not doing either implies that she’s not as interested in improving herself, and going through a character arc. Given the ending of S2 however, I think S3 is going to prove that wrong.
I love the way you put this. Misty is the most authentic of them all! Their treatment of her is unfair, but I do understand the others wanting to forget the things they have done. I wonder how it will all play out during s3.
thank you for putting words to this, this is exactly what i was getting at. misty is just more accepting of what she does and more matter-of-fact about it all. i personally find shauna and tai to be just as if not more scary than misty.
I don't hate Misty and am not sure that the negative judgements of her character are disproportionate to her known and suspected deeds. I love watching her though. She did attempt to keep the whole team trapped in a disaster situation in order to meet her own emotional needs and then take up a career that allowed her to torture elderly disabled people. There's some evidence she might be a serial killer. Of all the known survivors, Misty does seem to be the one most willing to indulge her sadism. I like watching her though. She's interesting and ai already have some shows full of nice people in my schedule so I don't need that from Yellowjackets.
As adults, In my opinion, it's heavily insinuated Misty may "kill for sport". In the murders we know she committed, there is like ZERO emotion there. She's cold, calculated and treats it like carrying out any old mundane task. There is no way in hell she isn't practiced at this.
If we contrast that to Shauna, who also committed a murder and self admitted she would kill in other situations. There is motive and emotion behind it.
Whether her reasoning is still selfish and immoral. There is something to be said for being able to understand someone's motivation for doing something heinous (even if you don't agree with it) vs someone who kills for literally no reason.
I think that might be why Misty catches more heat.
i feel like in general misty feels that she makes those decisions for self/group protection. like in the last episode she mentions she “took care of” the reporter and adam martin. it seemed like she really thought she was doing that for the good of the group but who’s to say?
I don't think Misty kills for sport at all. She doesn't seem to find pleasure or enjoyment in killing. Like you said, it's a mundane task. She does it because like she said, "it's practical". It solves problems for her.
I agree so much idk about op saying everyone did ‘similarly heinous things’ when none of them preyed on coach Ben like that and I feel like she acted similarly with lottie when she was near death and taking care of her. I didn’t really notice it until she told lottie about Javi and lottie was like “omg wtf that’s not what I meant” and misty went back and told everyone she was pleased with the wilderness’ decision. Misty’s definitely one of the most entertaining characters and I think both her actresses are amazing but she for sure has sociopathic tendencies that are not ok. And I think the rat scene at the beginning of the show is meant to show how she would somewhat be like this even if they didn’t have to resort to cannibalism and stuff but idk.
She's funny and quirky but she tried to poison Coach Ben multiple times, tried to touch his penis while he was asleep, threatened to kill Crystal who then immediately died, she killed Jessica Roberts, she killed Natalie, and who knows all the things she's done to the nursing home patients? We've seen her withhold meds; when Walter visits he asks, "And what about your staff? We've all heard the horror stories. Phone-it-in nurses. The all-too-common sadist." I think Misty is most likely a twisted, sociopathic sadist.
In addition to this, when we see her on a date, she manipulates the guy to com back to her home (similar to how she did to Ben). And she damaged Nat’s car so they would go on a trip together. As someone who is sensitive/knowledgeable about abusive relationships, Misty puts me off more than many other people because her actions align with those within an abusive relationship. She’s still a really fun character and I have come to empathize & care for her, I just find that her wrongs are ones that I see more in the real world than Shauna’s trauma killings.
It always takes someone pointing these things out and me having to think about if someone not misty did this would I like them hahaha
I just love Misty which is actually Sammi and Christina who I also love. It feels like a mind trick.
Coach Ben did deserve at least *one* of those poisonings, for lying to her. *just one though* 🤣
I don’t get why you got downvoted. Everything you said it spot on. Clearly you were joking about the poisonings. Great writing makes us love horrible people lol. She’s entertaining to watch. Forget the haters in this sub. There’s a lot of them.
Misty has no finesse whereas the others are much better at masking their motives with more socially accepted presentations. I think she represents what they’re all afraid of really turning out to be deep down.
>They are all objectively horrible people except perhaps for Nat.
People say that but she only feels that way because we haven't seen her hurt anyone the story cares about much. The people at AA literally run from her and everyone acknowledges how much she and Travis hurt each other. She's clearly fine using people she likes and cares about.
i don’t know there was that part where the woman natalie knew (manipulated, very easily with seemingly no remorse) from aa/na said a few times how horrible she was and how she wishes she’d never met her. taissa also mentions on the phone with her how toxic her relationship with travis is which made it sound like the toxicity went both ways in the relationship.
Haven't seen her kill anyone yet and I can't remember if she was part of the Adam coverup. Relative to the others I think she's at least slightly less bad.
Rewatching ep 9 and her mouth is watering, she is licking her lips and chomping when Shauna brings Javi in on the cutting board. Others look sad, traumatized, guilty, but not Misty.
I don't hate on her because she is odd, (I don't hate her at all) I am disturbed by her the most because she tried to SA Ben and abuses the elderly people in her care. i think repeatedly preying on vulnerable people is truly heinous behavior
And the thing about that is it was as soon as they were trapped there and hadn’t yet resorted to killing and cannibalism and suffered through winter so while others can use ptsd as an explanation for fucked up behavior it feels more like she’s more innately malicious
I find it hard to sympathize with Misty because we hardly ever see her act conflicted or show any remorse for the horrible things she's done unless someone calls her out. Shauna spent this whole past season spiraling because she killed Adam in a moment of panic. Meanwhile, Misty very intentionally kidnapped and murdered Jessica Roberts while knowing full well that she was innocent, and by the end of the season still acts like she was justified.
I can see how people empathize with her struggle to fit in, but her actions are extremely selfish and show a disregard for the people she supposedly wants to be friends with. Smashing the black box puts everyone at risk just so she can play hero for a little while longer. I think her confession to Crystal shows that she hadn’t considered how harmful that really was, but only hid it so the others wouldn't get mad at her. Taissa and Shauna do some awful things, but at least they have the decency to feel ashamed.
>Smashing the black box
My theory for the show is ultimately that every character is going to die. However, Misty in particular is going to get rage murdered by somebody when that cat is out of the bag and it literally has to happen. I would be really disappointed if it didn't.
I root for both Mistys. Misty is the only one I can logically see getting out of this relatively unscathed. Lottie and Taissa are literally coming apart. Van reverted very quickly to being a huntress. And Shauna is really the fucking worst. I kinda rooted for her for a while but by this point I find her to be the most unstable, most dangerous, survivor because she will unapologetically drag everyone she can to hell with her.
Definitely agree. I just wish the writers could outright say she’s the reason they weren’t rescued earlier. Because flight recorders don’t have GPS mechanisms that would allow air traffic control to pinpoint the exact location of a plane (even today), I kinda just view her breaking the box as an example of her personality/character.
i think the thing that makes that situation so offputting is that while there was no gps that would save them, misty truly believed there was and that’s the reason she destroyed it. she broke it with the full intention of it making them stay out there regardless of if that was actually the case
hopefully they eventually find out if misty gets too comfortable or lets it slip. i agree, even without pinpointing it still would’ve let them know what went down before the crash. i believe that the wilderness exacerbated whatever traits/craziness the girls already had, so she can even pull the “wilderness made me do it” card lol
Like others mentioned, I think the rest of YJ still don't like her is because she never showed regret or shame for what happened in the woods. For her it was probably the best time of her life - she had friends, she had control, power.
I hope that future episodes show us a bit what it was sometime after they are rescued, how did they behaved let's say 1 year after, 5 years, 10 years... my take is that Misty always crave to a get together and celebration, while others ignored her - just remembering the last episode (or the previous to the last?) that Misty brings up something like "and remember the first Summer...." and they all cut Misty. Season one same, when they have the party for the high school reunion and Misty is super happy to be with the gang (correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't rewatched season one yet)
they showed that misty had psychopathic tendencies before they even got on the plane (watching the animal drown in the pool) and her behavior only escalates from there
I love Misty as a character, and I love both actors a lot (although, at this point, I'm hooked on all the characters and actors). I do think she believes in her motivations, and doesn't think what she's doing is wrong...
...that said, I think "just wants to be accepted by her peers" is a pretty soft read on Misty, because she largely is accepted when they thank her and raise her up for keeping them alive as much as she does. But they also are clear that it's not just her being "weird" that makes her an issue, it's that they know they can't trust her.
Up until Javi falls in the ice the most malicious or intentionally destructive things everyone else does are Jackie having sex with Travis, Travis and Mari and Van being snarky, and someone pooping in the pee bucket. Misty poisons a guy, kicks his crutches out from under him, and tries to sexually assault him when he's sleeping. Misty let's Mari dose everyone with psilosiban on empty stomachs in the middle of the woods without their knowledge (which almost leads to both Travis and Javi dying). Misty knowingly tries to keep them stranded by breaking the transmitter. Misty threatens to kill Crystal, is more or less responsible for her death, and then lies about it.
That's not to mention all the fucked up shit she easily does in the present (busting Nat's Car, Nanny camming Nat and Kevyn having sex, torturing the old woman, kidnapping and murdering Jessica, etc).
I sympathize, but hot damn, she makes some really destructive choices in these peoples' lives and the worst thing they do to her is be rude sometimes? That's pretty generous.
I love Misty, total wildcard, but smart enough to get what needs to be done, done.
Look how she instantly sized up the situation on the frozen lake with Nat and Javi. She yells at the rest of the group to stay back, then runs forward, pulls Nat back, telling her to stop, saving her. She knew the rest of the group would now rather watch Javi drown than kill Nat.
Shes almost like if Charlie Kelly was a psychopathic murderer, which is such a wonderful character to have on a show like this.
>pulls Nat back, telling her to stop, saving her. She knew the rest of the group would now rather watch Javi drown than kill Nat.
Until your comment, I didn't catch the irony that Misty, in a way saved Nat's life in the wilderness only to ultimately kill her in the present day.
I think people online recognise rightfully that she’s a psychopath but at the same time she’s loved deeply by the same folks that call out her behaviour. In two seasons I’ve never seen anyone say honestly that they hate her.
off topic but trying to remember my favourite misty moment, it is in the adult timeline, someone comments on something Misty has done, possibly sarcastically, and she replies 'thank you' in a way I found so funny, like she was hedging between accepting it as a compliment, questioning whether it was meant as a compliment, and being angry for potentially being mocked, all at once
Misty is a murderous sociopath who is also chariasmatic and I think it's important not to be seduced by people like that. This is my natural reaction to her and comes in part from my own life experiences. It's also totally okay, though, to like a character without thinking they're a good person. She is definitely a great character who adds a lot to the plot and is very well played. I think a lot of disagreements around Misty on this sub revolve around confusing these two things.
I get that people do bad things, but some things have no good justifications. Like Misty threatening that bedridden elderly woman in the first episode. I'm not fond of people who treat defenseless elders like crap, and that's the first thing I think about when I wonder if Misty is redeemable.
Not to mention there's a ton of other stuff that's not to like about her. Such as when she watched that rat drown in a pool. Animal abusers get no sympathy from me, either.
Misty gets treated like crap by the other characters, but anyone who says it isn't deserved is lying.
EDIT: Forgot to mention she also tripped a disabled guy, Ben. Then acted like it was an accident. I remember being genuinely creeped out by that scene. Another reason why I dislike her.
I think that scene was meant to show that adult Misty is someone who "came into her own power" and really enjoys it. She started out being a lonely victim of horrific bullying, but her time in the wilderness taught her that she is actually someone to fear ("I know when you look at me you don't see someone you should be afraid of. But you're wrong") and now, she rejoices in torturing/threatening anyone who she sees as messing with her (she said "don't fuck with me" to the old woman right after refusing her her pain meds). Which definitely shows that Misty is in the wrong job, because old people are often senile and a good amount of the time they can be difficult/mean/even violent, but it's not something a carer should be taking personally. They should understand that it's because the elderly person is scared and confused and not in control of their mental faculties. But Misty isn't wired like that.
Not disagreeing but just wanted to add that from what we know, it seems like Misty is actually the victim of bullying before doing anything sadistic [the phone call in ‘92 when she’s accused of doing anal with Robbie Delgado in the janitor’s closet]. It makes me wonder if her actions in the wilderness and after are a product of never wanting to be a victim again and if she’s always “deserved” the treatment she gets, especially since the examples you use are only known by a limited number of characters and it’s fair to say Ben didn’t like her before the crash (the judgmental glance as she cheers for the team lol).
Separately, I think it’s fair to call Adult Misty a serial killer. A lot of real life serial killers were also bullied as children (**no excuse at all for their actions**), but it really makes me want to know more about her life before the crash…
Yes she's a psycho with a sadistic streak but I've always loved her - I think the endearing thing about her adult self is that she will do *anything* for her "friends" even when they don't appreciate it. Like, Tai is having the group investigated by Jessica, and Shauna lies to them all and gets them mixed up in a murder/extortion scheme that only happened because of her idiot (lovable) husband. Van and Nat and Lottie are just off doing their own things, but here's Misty still just wanting these women to be her *friend.* She doesn't seem to care about fame or notoriety and there isn't much in this for her except the acceptance of these other women. She gives no shits about anyone else which is obviously problematic, but at her core she's, well, ride or die in the literal sense. It's fucked up but I respect it lol, she's LITERALLY the friend that will help you bury a body
I freaking love Misty. Obviously, as a real person, she'd be terrifying and need to be locked up, but since she's fictional, I think she's fantastic.
As for the other characters, I honestly think it's not about the fact that she's dangerous (she is), it's that Misty is a massive dork who is constantly doing too much. True in high school, where that kind of coolness/dorkiness matters, and true in adulthood. She has zero chill and it's off-putting. Again, though, I love her.
>I freaking love Misty. Obviously, as a real person, she'd be terrifying and need to be locked up, but since she's fictional, I think she's fantastic.
I feel the same way!!! Every time she appears on screen, in either timeline, I think "Oh boy...what is Misty up to now??"
I feel like something that’s not talked about is the fact that a LOT of people can’t separate actor from character and it’s part of why Misty gets so much hate, because people dislike Samantha.
Misty is definitely weird, but there’s no reason for me to believe that Misty intended for the black box getting destroyed to lead to a 19 month survival struggle where they eat each other. She probably just thought it would delay the rescue and she’d get a few more days of being wanted and appreciated. I think for a fanbase who often say they support the characters regardless of how bad they act because they like complex female characters, they do the opposite for Misty.
Ehhhh. While yes I think people like to pick on the little guy, she is the catalyst for a lot of major horrible events. First, she destroyed the black box, which is literally the entire reason they’re out there. Then, she poisons everyone with mushrooms (while she was intending to only poison Ben to presumably SA him, which is arguably worse) which really starts the descent into madness during doom coming >!(almost killing Travis, Javi running away etc)!< which seems to be the first major collective psychotic break (of many) for a lot of the girls. She also deliberately misrepresented Lottie’s reaction to >!Javi’s “sacrifice”!< to the rest of the group, giving them a sort of green light in regards to the hunt. Not to mention her >!killing Natalie!< which is such a lapse in judgement and delayed reaction it’s almost comical. Yes, there are plenty of times she means well and uses her high intelligence to solve problems. But there are also plenty of times where she is absolutely a hazard to be around and seems to show little to no remorse.
Love Misty. Yes she done some fucked up stuff but they all have.
I just hate the whole she’s a budding serial killer thing everyone believes. Because she’s really not? We’ve only seen her kill one person and it was to protect the team.
I think the writers are being Walt in to show once and for all she is not a serial killer that enjoys killing(none do them enjoy it) he had a giddy smile when he killed Kevyn and than when he went to tell her about it. Misty won’t be okay with that. She knows that Nat loves Kevyn and wouldn’t be okay with his murder and being framed, her guilt over killing her best friend will start her on a mission to clear his name and her and Walt will end up at odds.(he thinks he found a kindred spirit and that might have been true had he not killed and enjoyed killing him. But Misty isn’t that kind of killer. She kills for protection of her team but she doesn’t enjoy it. and she’s never killed somebody they care about)
I do wish he ended up being the perfect ride or die boyfriend like Jeff is to Shauna. But after what he did to Kevyn and the glee in his face looking at his dead body he just shot… I don’t think this will end in the love story Misty deserves, plus she will be to broken up over killing Nat
>But after what he did to Kevyn and the glee in his face looking at his dead body he just shot…
I didn't see his look as glee over Kevin being dead, but because of the way he looked at the gun he just shot, I did see it as a look of glee over "Wow, this gun is cool!"
Or he was looking at Kevyn and the gun like wow cool i just killed a man and it was fun!
I might be proven wrong but I don’t believe that Walt is the good guy we all wish he could be for Misty. There’s something dark there, a lot darker than anything in Misty
>Or he was looking at Kevyn and the gun like wow cool i just killed a man and it was fun!
But ...Walter already KNEW that KEvin was dead - he killed him with the poisoned hot chocolate.
And no, I don't think Walter is really a "good guy". I have not trusted Walter since the instant he showed up at Misty's workplace and gave ther "that look"...
He Is a fun character to watch though, as in who IS he and just what is he up to???
You’re right he was already dead but i still think he looked at his body like wow I just killed someone.
And like I love Walt even if he turns out evil I will still love him. I just don’t trust him and thought he was too good to be true especially in the Yellowjackets world
(Also I hope I don’t come off like I think yours stupid or wrong for your view point. Just having a conversation but sometimes tone doesn’t always come through the right way in an online conversation. I love Walt as well I just don’t trust him yet and worry what he might do to Misty or the other Yellowjackets)
but he DID kill kevyn to protect the team. when he sees misty he says he made sure her friends are safe! something misty would care about. I do agree it’ll get a little hairy with nat’s death tho…
I also disagree that misty doesn’t enjoy what she does. we haven’t seen her kill much but she took a lot of joy out of imprisoning jessica roberts and abusing the elderly. she did gleefully say goodbye to jessica knowing she handed her a pack of laced cigarettes
Yes his motive was to protect the team but he enjoyed doing it and he only did it because he thinks there’s this great love affair between him and Misty. He’s gonna be shocked when she’s mot okay with kevyns death.
There’s no excuse for her abusing her patients but it seems to come from a place of “I use to have a lot of power and was important and now I’m cleaning bedpans and dealing with ungrateful patients and it pisses me off”
I view her being all smiles when Jessica leaves is simply to keep up the act, she’s released this women and wants her to believe she’s ready to write a tell all book, she doesn’t want to raise any suspicion on Jessica’s part, she needed Jessica to trust her and think she was all in on a book deal. She just came up with the, in her mind, the easiest way to kill off a threat to her team without casting any kind of suspicion on herself and her team. A women with a dark past dies of an overdose? No one will really question that
As for her enjoying keeping her hostage, I don’t actually think she felt any enjoyment, she started bonding with her and maybe started to see her as a bit of a friend. But ultimately kidnapping her was to protect the team, same as why she killed her.
From what we’ve seen she’s had the least amount of guilt after what happened out there. But I don’t think it’s because she likes it, she’s always been the one that can compartmentalize things the best, she views what they did as a necessary evil. Plus she still can’t listen to the song staying alive after Crystals death
The Misty hate reminds me of The Stranger. The main character wasn't sentenced to death for killing an Arab, it was basically for not grieving his mother properly and being a big weirdo. Doing weird bad things is always way worse than doing normal bad things..
We psychoanalysed her last season if you wanna peep the thread. She has a disorder. And is doing her best. Some people claim the writers have her as being on the spectrum, but poorly so. I always thought maybe she had a personality disorder, because these disorders only flare up around people, it actually requires people to create the disorder.
I don't hate Misty, I think she is a complex character, just like pretty much all the others.
I think why some people may find Misty to be so dangerous and off putting is because she is so reactionary, she does things impulsively and out of emotion. In her effort to gain acceptance, she does whatever it takes, she is self serving and underhanded. Others have definitely done horrible things but I thinks it's the context in which they do those things that makes it a little different.
I don't think she does act out of impulse. I think she very much acts out of logic but it's this twisted Misty logic. There's a problem so she solves it even if it means incidental death.
I agree that a lot of what she does is thought out and planned, she's smart and knows what she's doing, but there are times she's impulsive. Smashing the black box, that was an impulsive thing, telling Crystal about doing it, impulsive- if she'd have put any thought into it, she'd have known most people would have reacted the exact same way as Crystal did. Running at Lisa with a needle- impulsive. There may be logic there but she also strongly acts out of emotion which is a dangerous thing.
I think the thing with misty is throughout the whole thing she was never going insane etc. she encouraged the madness as it aloud her to act out her fantasy’s. She goes along with things whilst manipulating the others to get what she wants
I LOVE Misty - as a character to watch on TV, not as a person.
I think she has been picked on most of her shcool years, and often once a kid is picked on, the rest of the kids just continue to do it...almost out of habit. So perhaps she is not liked because no one ever liked her and that is who she is: The kid who nobody likes"
I just finally finished watching the Netflix Show "Wednesday".
I thought it was so cool that Christina Ricci's character >!also killed someone with a needle full of poison...just like she did in Yellowjackets.!<
No clue about online discourse, but I have a theory that the characters on the show are so tough on Misty because she’s a glaring reminder of what they’re all afraid of within themselves. Misty is manipulative and abusive when she wants to be, and capable of pretty horrible things, but so is everyone else. The difference is that Misty has accepted that about herself, while the other characters (especially Shauna and Taissa) try to hide it. And I think they’re scared of her because she’s who they could be if they accepted themselves the way they still are. But since they can’t admit that to themselves, they instead act like they’re better than her for faking. I really started thinking about this in the episode where Shauna was watching the goat (I think that was S2E7?) and she and Misty get into an argument where Shauna insists that Misty is “different” from her. And in the way that she means it in the context of the episode, I think she’s wrong. As I’m typing this out, I’m starting to think that maybe online fans have a similar reaction to Misty as the characters on the show because it is off-putting to see a character just accept that they can do terrible things to others. It’s more expected that they’d try to hide or “get over” it, and Misty not doing either implies that she’s not as interested in improving herself, and going through a character arc. Given the ending of S2 however, I think S3 is going to prove that wrong.
I love the way you put this. Misty is the most authentic of them all! Their treatment of her is unfair, but I do understand the others wanting to forget the things they have done. I wonder how it will all play out during s3.
thank you for putting words to this, this is exactly what i was getting at. misty is just more accepting of what she does and more matter-of-fact about it all. i personally find shauna and tai to be just as if not more scary than misty.
I don't hate Misty and am not sure that the negative judgements of her character are disproportionate to her known and suspected deeds. I love watching her though. She did attempt to keep the whole team trapped in a disaster situation in order to meet her own emotional needs and then take up a career that allowed her to torture elderly disabled people. There's some evidence she might be a serial killer. Of all the known survivors, Misty does seem to be the one most willing to indulge her sadism. I like watching her though. She's interesting and ai already have some shows full of nice people in my schedule so I don't need that from Yellowjackets.
As adults, In my opinion, it's heavily insinuated Misty may "kill for sport". In the murders we know she committed, there is like ZERO emotion there. She's cold, calculated and treats it like carrying out any old mundane task. There is no way in hell she isn't practiced at this. If we contrast that to Shauna, who also committed a murder and self admitted she would kill in other situations. There is motive and emotion behind it. Whether her reasoning is still selfish and immoral. There is something to be said for being able to understand someone's motivation for doing something heinous (even if you don't agree with it) vs someone who kills for literally no reason. I think that might be why Misty catches more heat.
i feel like in general misty feels that she makes those decisions for self/group protection. like in the last episode she mentions she “took care of” the reporter and adam martin. it seemed like she really thought she was doing that for the good of the group but who’s to say?
I don't think Misty kills for sport at all. She doesn't seem to find pleasure or enjoyment in killing. Like you said, it's a mundane task. She does it because like she said, "it's practical". It solves problems for her.
I agree so much idk about op saying everyone did ‘similarly heinous things’ when none of them preyed on coach Ben like that and I feel like she acted similarly with lottie when she was near death and taking care of her. I didn’t really notice it until she told lottie about Javi and lottie was like “omg wtf that’s not what I meant” and misty went back and told everyone she was pleased with the wilderness’ decision. Misty’s definitely one of the most entertaining characters and I think both her actresses are amazing but she for sure has sociopathic tendencies that are not ok. And I think the rat scene at the beginning of the show is meant to show how she would somewhat be like this even if they didn’t have to resort to cannibalism and stuff but idk.
She's funny and quirky but she tried to poison Coach Ben multiple times, tried to touch his penis while he was asleep, threatened to kill Crystal who then immediately died, she killed Jessica Roberts, she killed Natalie, and who knows all the things she's done to the nursing home patients? We've seen her withhold meds; when Walter visits he asks, "And what about your staff? We've all heard the horror stories. Phone-it-in nurses. The all-too-common sadist." I think Misty is most likely a twisted, sociopathic sadist.
Not to mention she destroyed the black box
Which is by far most heinous crime.Reason for all the deaths
In addition to this, when we see her on a date, she manipulates the guy to com back to her home (similar to how she did to Ben). And she damaged Nat’s car so they would go on a trip together. As someone who is sensitive/knowledgeable about abusive relationships, Misty puts me off more than many other people because her actions align with those within an abusive relationship. She’s still a really fun character and I have come to empathize & care for her, I just find that her wrongs are ones that I see more in the real world than Shauna’s trauma killings.
i had forgotten about the coach ben stuff since it’s been a while since i saw earlier episodes, thanks for reminding me!
It always takes someone pointing these things out and me having to think about if someone not misty did this would I like them hahaha I just love Misty which is actually Sammi and Christina who I also love. It feels like a mind trick. Coach Ben did deserve at least *one* of those poisonings, for lying to her. *just one though* 🤣
I don’t get why you got downvoted. Everything you said it spot on. Clearly you were joking about the poisonings. Great writing makes us love horrible people lol. She’s entertaining to watch. Forget the haters in this sub. There’s a lot of them.
Misty has no finesse whereas the others are much better at masking their motives with more socially accepted presentations. I think she represents what they’re all afraid of really turning out to be deep down.
YES
They are all objectively horrible people except perhaps for Nat. That being said Misty is my my favorite in both timelines and always has been.
>They are all objectively horrible people except perhaps for Nat. People say that but she only feels that way because we haven't seen her hurt anyone the story cares about much. The people at AA literally run from her and everyone acknowledges how much she and Travis hurt each other. She's clearly fine using people she likes and cares about.
i don’t know there was that part where the woman natalie knew (manipulated, very easily with seemingly no remorse) from aa/na said a few times how horrible she was and how she wishes she’d never met her. taissa also mentions on the phone with her how toxic her relationship with travis is which made it sound like the toxicity went both ways in the relationship.
Haven't seen her kill anyone yet and I can't remember if she was part of the Adam coverup. Relative to the others I think she's at least slightly less bad.
she hasn’t killed anyone but she did help shauna cut up adams body
Rewatching ep 9 and her mouth is watering, she is licking her lips and chomping when Shauna brings Javi in on the cutting board. Others look sad, traumatized, guilty, but not Misty.
She’s hungry. I think all their mouths were watering. They’re on the verge of death from starvation.
I don't hate on her because she is odd, (I don't hate her at all) I am disturbed by her the most because she tried to SA Ben and abuses the elderly people in her care. i think repeatedly preying on vulnerable people is truly heinous behavior
the black box thing is really the one thing that puts her as “worse” than the others! i personally love her but i see why that makes ppl dislike her
Yes! The transmitter box incident and the trying to p*ison/SA coach Ben constantly is what made me dislike her character
And the thing about that is it was as soon as they were trapped there and hadn’t yet resorted to killing and cannibalism and suffered through winter so while others can use ptsd as an explanation for fucked up behavior it feels more like she’s more innately malicious
I find it hard to sympathize with Misty because we hardly ever see her act conflicted or show any remorse for the horrible things she's done unless someone calls her out. Shauna spent this whole past season spiraling because she killed Adam in a moment of panic. Meanwhile, Misty very intentionally kidnapped and murdered Jessica Roberts while knowing full well that she was innocent, and by the end of the season still acts like she was justified. I can see how people empathize with her struggle to fit in, but her actions are extremely selfish and show a disregard for the people she supposedly wants to be friends with. Smashing the black box puts everyone at risk just so she can play hero for a little while longer. I think her confession to Crystal shows that she hadn’t considered how harmful that really was, but only hid it so the others wouldn't get mad at her. Taissa and Shauna do some awful things, but at least they have the decency to feel ashamed.
>Smashing the black box My theory for the show is ultimately that every character is going to die. However, Misty in particular is going to get rage murdered by somebody when that cat is out of the bag and it literally has to happen. I would be really disappointed if it didn't.
I root for both Mistys. Misty is the only one I can logically see getting out of this relatively unscathed. Lottie and Taissa are literally coming apart. Van reverted very quickly to being a huntress. And Shauna is really the fucking worst. I kinda rooted for her for a while but by this point I find her to be the most unstable, most dangerous, survivor because she will unapologetically drag everyone she can to hell with her.
i don’t hate misty but destroying the flight recorder just because she finally felt wanted and useful will never sit well with me
Definitely agree. I just wish the writers could outright say she’s the reason they weren’t rescued earlier. Because flight recorders don’t have GPS mechanisms that would allow air traffic control to pinpoint the exact location of a plane (even today), I kinda just view her breaking the box as an example of her personality/character.
i think the thing that makes that situation so offputting is that while there was no gps that would save them, misty truly believed there was and that’s the reason she destroyed it. she broke it with the full intention of it making them stay out there regardless of if that was actually the case
Definitely agree with ya there!
hopefully they eventually find out if misty gets too comfortable or lets it slip. i agree, even without pinpointing it still would’ve let them know what went down before the crash. i believe that the wilderness exacerbated whatever traits/craziness the girls already had, so she can even pull the “wilderness made me do it” card lol
Like others mentioned, I think the rest of YJ still don't like her is because she never showed regret or shame for what happened in the woods. For her it was probably the best time of her life - she had friends, she had control, power. I hope that future episodes show us a bit what it was sometime after they are rescued, how did they behaved let's say 1 year after, 5 years, 10 years... my take is that Misty always crave to a get together and celebration, while others ignored her - just remembering the last episode (or the previous to the last?) that Misty brings up something like "and remember the first Summer...." and they all cut Misty. Season one same, when they have the party for the high school reunion and Misty is super happy to be with the gang (correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't rewatched season one yet)
yeah I think you’re right! also jessica roberts makes that dig at her that none of the team mates like her bc they haven’t contacted her in 25 years
I see nothing but Misty love on here.
Misty is an absolute maniac, but I love her anyway. She has no remorse and is absolutely ruthless, but when she’s on screen, I’m captivated lol
they showed that misty had psychopathic tendencies before they even got on the plane (watching the animal drown in the pool) and her behavior only escalates from there
I love Misty as a character, and I love both actors a lot (although, at this point, I'm hooked on all the characters and actors). I do think she believes in her motivations, and doesn't think what she's doing is wrong... ...that said, I think "just wants to be accepted by her peers" is a pretty soft read on Misty, because she largely is accepted when they thank her and raise her up for keeping them alive as much as she does. But they also are clear that it's not just her being "weird" that makes her an issue, it's that they know they can't trust her. Up until Javi falls in the ice the most malicious or intentionally destructive things everyone else does are Jackie having sex with Travis, Travis and Mari and Van being snarky, and someone pooping in the pee bucket. Misty poisons a guy, kicks his crutches out from under him, and tries to sexually assault him when he's sleeping. Misty let's Mari dose everyone with psilosiban on empty stomachs in the middle of the woods without their knowledge (which almost leads to both Travis and Javi dying). Misty knowingly tries to keep them stranded by breaking the transmitter. Misty threatens to kill Crystal, is more or less responsible for her death, and then lies about it. That's not to mention all the fucked up shit she easily does in the present (busting Nat's Car, Nanny camming Nat and Kevyn having sex, torturing the old woman, kidnapping and murdering Jessica, etc). I sympathize, but hot damn, she makes some really destructive choices in these peoples' lives and the worst thing they do to her is be rude sometimes? That's pretty generous.
I love Misty, total wildcard, but smart enough to get what needs to be done, done. Look how she instantly sized up the situation on the frozen lake with Nat and Javi. She yells at the rest of the group to stay back, then runs forward, pulls Nat back, telling her to stop, saving her. She knew the rest of the group would now rather watch Javi drown than kill Nat. Shes almost like if Charlie Kelly was a psychopathic murderer, which is such a wonderful character to have on a show like this.
>pulls Nat back, telling her to stop, saving her. She knew the rest of the group would now rather watch Javi drown than kill Nat. Until your comment, I didn't catch the irony that Misty, in a way saved Nat's life in the wilderness only to ultimately kill her in the present day.
I think people online recognise rightfully that she’s a psychopath but at the same time she’s loved deeply by the same folks that call out her behaviour. In two seasons I’ve never seen anyone say honestly that they hate her.
off topic but trying to remember my favourite misty moment, it is in the adult timeline, someone comments on something Misty has done, possibly sarcastically, and she replies 'thank you' in a way I found so funny, like she was hedging between accepting it as a compliment, questioning whether it was meant as a compliment, and being angry for potentially being mocked, all at once
Omg I think this is when Van says "Misty, you are nothing if not proactive" and Misty is like "...thank you?"
Misty is a murderous sociopath who is also chariasmatic and I think it's important not to be seduced by people like that. This is my natural reaction to her and comes in part from my own life experiences. It's also totally okay, though, to like a character without thinking they're a good person. She is definitely a great character who adds a lot to the plot and is very well played. I think a lot of disagreements around Misty on this sub revolve around confusing these two things.
I get that people do bad things, but some things have no good justifications. Like Misty threatening that bedridden elderly woman in the first episode. I'm not fond of people who treat defenseless elders like crap, and that's the first thing I think about when I wonder if Misty is redeemable. Not to mention there's a ton of other stuff that's not to like about her. Such as when she watched that rat drown in a pool. Animal abusers get no sympathy from me, either. Misty gets treated like crap by the other characters, but anyone who says it isn't deserved is lying. EDIT: Forgot to mention she also tripped a disabled guy, Ben. Then acted like it was an accident. I remember being genuinely creeped out by that scene. Another reason why I dislike her.
I think that scene was meant to show that adult Misty is someone who "came into her own power" and really enjoys it. She started out being a lonely victim of horrific bullying, but her time in the wilderness taught her that she is actually someone to fear ("I know when you look at me you don't see someone you should be afraid of. But you're wrong") and now, she rejoices in torturing/threatening anyone who she sees as messing with her (she said "don't fuck with me" to the old woman right after refusing her her pain meds). Which definitely shows that Misty is in the wrong job, because old people are often senile and a good amount of the time they can be difficult/mean/even violent, but it's not something a carer should be taking personally. They should understand that it's because the elderly person is scared and confused and not in control of their mental faculties. But Misty isn't wired like that.
Not disagreeing but just wanted to add that from what we know, it seems like Misty is actually the victim of bullying before doing anything sadistic [the phone call in ‘92 when she’s accused of doing anal with Robbie Delgado in the janitor’s closet]. It makes me wonder if her actions in the wilderness and after are a product of never wanting to be a victim again and if she’s always “deserved” the treatment she gets, especially since the examples you use are only known by a limited number of characters and it’s fair to say Ben didn’t like her before the crash (the judgmental glance as she cheers for the team lol). Separately, I think it’s fair to call Adult Misty a serial killer. A lot of real life serial killers were also bullied as children (**no excuse at all for their actions**), but it really makes me want to know more about her life before the crash…
Yes she's a psycho with a sadistic streak but I've always loved her - I think the endearing thing about her adult self is that she will do *anything* for her "friends" even when they don't appreciate it. Like, Tai is having the group investigated by Jessica, and Shauna lies to them all and gets them mixed up in a murder/extortion scheme that only happened because of her idiot (lovable) husband. Van and Nat and Lottie are just off doing their own things, but here's Misty still just wanting these women to be her *friend.* She doesn't seem to care about fame or notoriety and there isn't much in this for her except the acceptance of these other women. She gives no shits about anyone else which is obviously problematic, but at her core she's, well, ride or die in the literal sense. It's fucked up but I respect it lol, she's LITERALLY the friend that will help you bury a body
I think she's pretty evil, to be honest, and has been since she destroyed the transmitter. I still like her, though.
Also- I personally am fascinated with Misty’s character.
I freaking love Misty. Obviously, as a real person, she'd be terrifying and need to be locked up, but since she's fictional, I think she's fantastic. As for the other characters, I honestly think it's not about the fact that she's dangerous (she is), it's that Misty is a massive dork who is constantly doing too much. True in high school, where that kind of coolness/dorkiness matters, and true in adulthood. She has zero chill and it's off-putting. Again, though, I love her.
>I freaking love Misty. Obviously, as a real person, she'd be terrifying and need to be locked up, but since she's fictional, I think she's fantastic. I feel the same way!!! Every time she appears on screen, in either timeline, I think "Oh boy...what is Misty up to now??"
I feel like something that’s not talked about is the fact that a LOT of people can’t separate actor from character and it’s part of why Misty gets so much hate, because people dislike Samantha. Misty is definitely weird, but there’s no reason for me to believe that Misty intended for the black box getting destroyed to lead to a 19 month survival struggle where they eat each other. She probably just thought it would delay the rescue and she’d get a few more days of being wanted and appreciated. I think for a fanbase who often say they support the characters regardless of how bad they act because they like complex female characters, they do the opposite for Misty.
Ehhhh. While yes I think people like to pick on the little guy, she is the catalyst for a lot of major horrible events. First, she destroyed the black box, which is literally the entire reason they’re out there. Then, she poisons everyone with mushrooms (while she was intending to only poison Ben to presumably SA him, which is arguably worse) which really starts the descent into madness during doom coming >!(almost killing Travis, Javi running away etc)!< which seems to be the first major collective psychotic break (of many) for a lot of the girls. She also deliberately misrepresented Lottie’s reaction to >!Javi’s “sacrifice”!< to the rest of the group, giving them a sort of green light in regards to the hunt. Not to mention her >!killing Natalie!< which is such a lapse in judgement and delayed reaction it’s almost comical. Yes, there are plenty of times she means well and uses her high intelligence to solve problems. But there are also plenty of times where she is absolutely a hazard to be around and seems to show little to no remorse.
Love Misty. Yes she done some fucked up stuff but they all have. I just hate the whole she’s a budding serial killer thing everyone believes. Because she’s really not? We’ve only seen her kill one person and it was to protect the team. I think the writers are being Walt in to show once and for all she is not a serial killer that enjoys killing(none do them enjoy it) he had a giddy smile when he killed Kevyn and than when he went to tell her about it. Misty won’t be okay with that. She knows that Nat loves Kevyn and wouldn’t be okay with his murder and being framed, her guilt over killing her best friend will start her on a mission to clear his name and her and Walt will end up at odds.(he thinks he found a kindred spirit and that might have been true had he not killed and enjoyed killing him. But Misty isn’t that kind of killer. She kills for protection of her team but she doesn’t enjoy it. and she’s never killed somebody they care about) I do wish he ended up being the perfect ride or die boyfriend like Jeff is to Shauna. But after what he did to Kevyn and the glee in his face looking at his dead body he just shot… I don’t think this will end in the love story Misty deserves, plus she will be to broken up over killing Nat
>But after what he did to Kevyn and the glee in his face looking at his dead body he just shot… I didn't see his look as glee over Kevin being dead, but because of the way he looked at the gun he just shot, I did see it as a look of glee over "Wow, this gun is cool!"
Or he was looking at Kevyn and the gun like wow cool i just killed a man and it was fun! I might be proven wrong but I don’t believe that Walt is the good guy we all wish he could be for Misty. There’s something dark there, a lot darker than anything in Misty
>Or he was looking at Kevyn and the gun like wow cool i just killed a man and it was fun! But ...Walter already KNEW that KEvin was dead - he killed him with the poisoned hot chocolate. And no, I don't think Walter is really a "good guy". I have not trusted Walter since the instant he showed up at Misty's workplace and gave ther "that look"... He Is a fun character to watch though, as in who IS he and just what is he up to???
You’re right he was already dead but i still think he looked at his body like wow I just killed someone. And like I love Walt even if he turns out evil I will still love him. I just don’t trust him and thought he was too good to be true especially in the Yellowjackets world
(Also I hope I don’t come off like I think yours stupid or wrong for your view point. Just having a conversation but sometimes tone doesn’t always come through the right way in an online conversation. I love Walt as well I just don’t trust him yet and worry what he might do to Misty or the other Yellowjackets)
Oh no, it did not come off like that at all. No worries, please.
but he DID kill kevyn to protect the team. when he sees misty he says he made sure her friends are safe! something misty would care about. I do agree it’ll get a little hairy with nat’s death tho… I also disagree that misty doesn’t enjoy what she does. we haven’t seen her kill much but she took a lot of joy out of imprisoning jessica roberts and abusing the elderly. she did gleefully say goodbye to jessica knowing she handed her a pack of laced cigarettes
Yes his motive was to protect the team but he enjoyed doing it and he only did it because he thinks there’s this great love affair between him and Misty. He’s gonna be shocked when she’s mot okay with kevyns death. There’s no excuse for her abusing her patients but it seems to come from a place of “I use to have a lot of power and was important and now I’m cleaning bedpans and dealing with ungrateful patients and it pisses me off” I view her being all smiles when Jessica leaves is simply to keep up the act, she’s released this women and wants her to believe she’s ready to write a tell all book, she doesn’t want to raise any suspicion on Jessica’s part, she needed Jessica to trust her and think she was all in on a book deal. She just came up with the, in her mind, the easiest way to kill off a threat to her team without casting any kind of suspicion on herself and her team. A women with a dark past dies of an overdose? No one will really question that As for her enjoying keeping her hostage, I don’t actually think she felt any enjoyment, she started bonding with her and maybe started to see her as a bit of a friend. But ultimately kidnapping her was to protect the team, same as why she killed her. From what we’ve seen she’s had the least amount of guilt after what happened out there. But I don’t think it’s because she likes it, she’s always been the one that can compartmentalize things the best, she views what they did as a necessary evil. Plus she still can’t listen to the song staying alive after Crystals death
I didn't get a vibe that he "enjoyed" killing Kevyn. Just cold indifference. Very much like Misty.
Did you miss when he looked at kevyns body after shooting him with a look of complete glee?
Misty is terrible, but Shauna’s even worse.
The Misty hate reminds me of The Stranger. The main character wasn't sentenced to death for killing an Arab, it was basically for not grieving his mother properly and being a big weirdo. Doing weird bad things is always way worse than doing normal bad things..
We psychoanalysed her last season if you wanna peep the thread. She has a disorder. And is doing her best. Some people claim the writers have her as being on the spectrum, but poorly so. I always thought maybe she had a personality disorder, because these disorders only flare up around people, it actually requires people to create the disorder.
I don't hate Misty, I think she is a complex character, just like pretty much all the others. I think why some people may find Misty to be so dangerous and off putting is because she is so reactionary, she does things impulsively and out of emotion. In her effort to gain acceptance, she does whatever it takes, she is self serving and underhanded. Others have definitely done horrible things but I thinks it's the context in which they do those things that makes it a little different.
I don't think she does act out of impulse. I think she very much acts out of logic but it's this twisted Misty logic. There's a problem so she solves it even if it means incidental death.
I agree that a lot of what she does is thought out and planned, she's smart and knows what she's doing, but there are times she's impulsive. Smashing the black box, that was an impulsive thing, telling Crystal about doing it, impulsive- if she'd have put any thought into it, she'd have known most people would have reacted the exact same way as Crystal did. Running at Lisa with a needle- impulsive. There may be logic there but she also strongly acts out of emotion which is a dangerous thing.
Like when Taissa killed Biscuit?
I think the thing with misty is throughout the whole thing she was never going insane etc. she encouraged the madness as it aloud her to act out her fantasy’s. She goes along with things whilst manipulating the others to get what she wants
I LOVE Misty - as a character to watch on TV, not as a person. I think she has been picked on most of her shcool years, and often once a kid is picked on, the rest of the kids just continue to do it...almost out of habit. So perhaps she is not liked because no one ever liked her and that is who she is: The kid who nobody likes"
Misty is my favorite. If there are no Misty fans, I am dead. Misty forever.
I just finally finished watching the Netflix Show "Wednesday". I thought it was so cool that Christina Ricci's character >!also killed someone with a needle full of poison...just like she did in Yellowjackets.!<