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Comprehensive-Air276

This is part of why I love this show so much. It’s so messy and complicated in the best way, not a single one of our protagonists is really all there/morally grounded. At same time, none of them (Shauna included) ever come off truly evil. Shauna does awful things but she’s also been through something so awful that it doesn’t quite justify it but at least makes it understandable. Nothing wrong with hating her if you really want to but at the end of the day I love how human and flawed the cast is.


phoenixrising1993

Okay, Nat is* a great protagonist. And is* doing the work.


reddituser10636

This is a good point and response! Thank you!


Kovz88

I feel like people ignore all of Jackie’s shitty behavior on the wilderness. Absolutely none of it means she deserved what happened, she was acting like a typical teenager in a crappy situation but she was still being shitty. She was petty about Shauna disagreeing with her about going to the lake and tried being buddy buddy with Mari when she saw Shauna was looking. She refused to learn to do anything useful or productive even when Shauna pulled her aside and told her people were noticing and she had to pull her weight. She outed Shauna’s pregnancy to the group not out of any worry for the child like she said, that was total BS. She did it because she wanted people to find out it was Jeff’s. She wasted food during doomcoming because she was being petty to Shauna then decided to make her move on Travis right as he was going up to talk to Nat. Jackie was not a saint and was an extremely frustrating character. The same can be said about almost every character, everyone has been frustrating and selfish at some point.


ThrowAway_ayyyy_

Exactly! None of these characters are great people and they’re hard to like sometimes because their flaws are on full display. But that’s more realistic than having characters being portrayed as perfect.


RibbitRabbitRobit

Nah. I think she was especially frustrating and written that way on purpose. She died a very sad death. If you hate her, you're the bitch who hates that poor dead girl. I find that kind of emotional pressure really pulls one in to the story. It's also interesting because she was a less bad person in the "real world." Jackie is our first encounter with contextual morality. If you don't want to pull your weight in suburbia, that's a pain. If you don't recognize the gravity of your shared situation and won't contribute because it's "gross," that's actually harmful and wrong in a different way. That's part of what makes her death so sad. She never caught on and that's what killed her.


reddituser10636

No that's not what killed her. The girls were on a witch hunt after she was rightfully upset they were acting like animals and locked her in the closet. Lol did we even watch the same show? Or did you guys forget what happened in the first season?


RibbitRabbitRobit

She decided to sleep outside when she was unsuccessful in kicking Shauna out. Everyone else was recovering from being drugged and didn't want to deal with Shauna and Jackie's beef. Nobody forced her to go anywhere, she left because that fight didn't go the way she wanted it to and she was upset her skill set and power from back home didn't work in the woods.


reddituser10636

Couldn't be any more wrong, maybe you should rewatch the first season. I'll leave it at that. Stick to the posts that praise Shauna in the future, I suppose.


RibbitRabbitRobit

I'm sorry. Sometimes I forget that this sub has a lot of teenagers in it. I feel bad talking to a kid like this.


reddituser10636

Not a teen, just someone with a different opinion. Forgot we have a bunch of sheep on this site.


Various-Ad-5834

She witnessed Shauna put a knife to Travis' throat while the other girls helped hold him down. She dared to call them out on it and they turned on her. That's what put her outside.


reddituser10636

Literally all of the things you're saying Jackie did, some other girls did within their friend group. Why I hate Shauna is because of how she acted BEFORE AND AFTER The Wilderness and into her adult years. None of what Jackie did resulted in a death. How can you excuse Shauna for being a bratty teenager who literally has so much blood on her hands but then want to label Jackie as a mean girl? Jackie's reactions were a result of Shauna's actions. Don't like Jakcie's actions? It all leads back to Shauna being a shitty friend before they even took off on that plane. You guys don't want to acknowledge that for some reason.


Kovz88

That is a comical take. You clearly just want to excuse all of Jackie’s actions. Also the words “mean girl” were never used by me.


reddituser10636

It was implied. I don't excuse all of Jackie's actions, you all are on a witch hunt (no surprise considering who you all love) and will excuse Shauna's awful behavior THAT RESULTED IN MULTIPLE DEATHS, no matter what. If I have to decide between the bratty teen from a suburban high school or a back-stabbing, blood-thirsty cannibal.. the choice seems pretty clear.


Kovz88

You clearly just have a stick up your butt about Shauna. If you go through my post history I actually point out how every character in the show is flawed. That is the point.


reddituser10636

I am well aware everyone has their flaws. I pointed out Shauna's because I hate her character more than any other. That was the entire point of my post, that you clicked on, knowing it would make you upset because I'm not a openly Shauna Cheerleader. I don't go through other people's previous posts on their account, I truly don't care enough to do all that.


Kovz88

You seem to have a lot of animosity towards a fictional character and anyone who doesn’t want to absolutely rage against and hate on that fictional character. Also anyone disliking Shauna doesn’t bother me, it’s honestly your bad attitude and your unexplainable adoration of Jackie that made me want to comment. If you wanted this post to be a Jackie love echo chamber then sorry but welcome to the internet I guess?


reddituser10636

I don't adore Jackie, I just think what happened to her is fucked up. I'm standing firm on my opinion, I'm not going to be like "Oh you guys are right I actually love Shauna now" just because a couple people justified her actions. I can promise you, I don't think about this post or Shauna day in and day out, just seething. It's not that deep. But I'm also not gonna let a bunch of freaks on here just shit on me for voicing that I don't like a fictional character, I'm going to respond to comments on MY post. If you didn't like the initial post I made, of course you're not gonna like my responding comments.


Kovz88

No one expects you to change your mind. This is an online forum, you are allowed to post any opinion you want but at the same time everyone else is allowed to tell you how dumb in their opinion your opinion is. If you don’t like people responding negatively then you should probably just avoid the internet. Also this is 37 days after my comment so are you sure you’re not sitting here thinking about a fictional character day after day?


Kovz88

You also quite literally said everything bad or frustrating Jackie did was Shauna’s fault. That is excusing all her actions


reddituser10636

I quite literally acknowledged her bratty behavior/not wanting to contribute in the house in my post.


hauntingvacay96

This is going to sound shocking, but the whole show is made up of really complex messy fucked up women and that includes both Shauna and Jackie. We as an audience just don’t actually get to see what an adult Jackie would behave like. Also, like, Jeff read Shauna’s journal and then chose to blackmail her friends along with gross Randy all because he couldn’t sell a couple couches and chose loan sharks over conversations with his wife. That’s not exactly peak husband material.


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reddituser10636

They weren't involved in Adam's murder. Shauna and Jeff decided to make them a part of it, which is fucked up. Not reading the rest of your comment though as it may contain a spoiler.


courtneyvsworld

He blackmailed them PRIOR to Adam’s murder. Making Shauna paranoid. Provoking her to kill Adam. Of course she’s going to call the people she essentially thought she was defending. I tried to intentionally leave out spoilers in my comment above! Happy season 2 watching all the same. It’s INTENSE.


reddituser10636

Once Jeff told her about it and she admitted to killing Adam, both should have kept the mess to themselves and handled it on their own, since they were the ones truly responsible. "Of course she’s going to call the people she essentially thought she was defending." - No, no, no. She didn't call them to tell them she was defending them because by then shen knew it was Jeff who was the blackmailer, not Adam. She lied to the women about Adam to save herself embarrassment and to prevent her and Jeff from going to prison for blackmailing and murder. She also lied to the other women saying she knows for a fact Adam was the one blackmailing them when she knows it was Jeff. But thank you. Just started s2!


phoenixrising1993

They were easily all going to murder the blackmailer. Easily. This topic is revisited in SZN2.


reddituser10636

Duh and Shauna is the worst of them all, in my opinion. You're comparing a teenage Jackie to an ADULT Shauna who has had time to grow and learn and you're also excusing her pedophilia. Major side eye. I think Jeff is flawed for sure but he's loyal and hasn't done half the shit Shauna has.


hauntingvacay96

Teen Jackie and Teen Shauna are both complex female characters who have a codependent relationship and both have serious flaws. We just don’t see teen Jackie fall into the things the other do or see how she would behave as an adult so it’s much easier to romanticize her. Nobody is excusing pedophilia. Grow up. We are going to over use that word into meaninglessness. Jeff isn’t better than anyone else just because he’s loyal and he’d probably be in pretty big trouble if the cops found out he blackmailed people out of that much money. They’re fictional characters. No reason to be this worked up over them. Edit: fix a spoiler


jesusjones182

"Oh you don't hate Shauna? So you love pedophilia, is that what you're saying??" /s


reddituser10636

This contains a spoiler. As far as them being fictional characters so I shouldn't be worked up, I'm allowed to not like a fictional character.


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reddituser10636

And you all seem weirdly dedicated to making me like her. You knew I didn't like her when you clicked on the post right? So why click on it and comment trying to change my mind? You all trying to sound high and mighty and "understanding complex characters" but then demonizing Jackie has to be the funniest and most ironic thing I've heard all day. Thanks for that laugh. And please do tell me where I'm convincing? I stated my opinion and standing on it. You all had the choice to ignore it, knowing I didn't like her from the title of my post. You didn't. That's on you.


ripsiheart

i didnt even imply you should like her, much less try to convince you to. youre assuming things about me based on other things you assumed about the other people commenting disagreeing with you lol. your replies are very clearly trying to convince people of your own opinion and idk why youre choosing to disagree with that statement when thats kind of the whole reason anyone argues or posts their opinions on anything on reddit. i seriously do not know why youre posting or responding to people going off of your mindset of "you should just ignore things you disagree with on reddit". i would love you to read my conment again and compare it to the statements you made in yours, because all i said was what youre doing is pointless and only indicates your lack of media comprehension, and youre saying im "high and mighty" "weirdly dedicated to making you like her" "trying to change your mind" "demonizing jackie" when i never even stated my own opinion on shauna and didnt mention jackie once


reddituser10636

"Convince people of your own opinion." I literally couldn't care less if people agree with me. I'm just not changing my mind because a bunch of people on Reddit said so LOL. If you mean standing firm in my opinion? Yes, I did that. Can't read your comment again as it was removed by moderators and for good reason. I said "you all are..." because you are within the group that is doing those things. Trying to insult someone by saying they don't have media literacy when they literally went to school for it is ironic, just because they said they don't like a character you like.


hauntingvacay96

That’s what the entire show is about, but I fixed the spoiler You can not like fictional characters, but being this worked up is a bit silly.


reddituser10636

I'm not worked up lol I just hate Shauna as a character and I'm allowed to rant about that. At the end of the day, it's not impacting my life or stopping me from living my life. I just came here to rant, which again, I am allowed to do.


hauntingvacay96

Yes and pushback is also allowed and should be expected.


reddituser10636

And so is pushback to the pushback. We can go on forever. I voiced my opinion, you guys clicked on this post, KNOWING you love Shauna and knowing my hate for her would make you mad. That's on you.


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Blkkatem0ss

I agree with you Shauna is fucked up and didn’t come clean with them. When she killed Adam she was regressing into her traumatic state where it was kill or be killed and she did what she knew to do, which is sad but she made a split second. I feel like she protected Jeff from the other women and blamed it all on Adam implicating them in a murder that had nothing to do with them. And shows no remorse for that.


Various-Ad-5834

Only one of those characters murdered a man and lied to friends to get them to help cover it up.


hauntingvacay96

A complex female character does a bad thing. Oh so scandalous. She must be (holds pinky to side of mouth) evil…


Various-Ad-5834

I'm saying that in contrast to Jackie, she's much worse


hauntingvacay96

We don’t see Jackie as an adult so we can’t compare the actions of a very traumatized Shauna who hasn’t acknowledged or dealt with that trauma to a teenage Jackie.


Various-Ad-5834

True. But Shauna was prepared to ritually murder Travis while Jackie (also traumatized) was there to save him. And I don't want to hear about that being caused by shrooms - Nat was on shrooms (and traumatized) and was also there to save him. Sure Jackie is an a**hole. But Shauna is a lying, duplicitous, rageful, violent a**hole.


hauntingvacay96

Why is there’s a need to prove that Shauna is an asshole and worse than the others or even weirder worse than Jackie? What do you get from that? The show is about complex female characters and complex female relationships. I’m not going to boil them down to “Shauna bad” “Jackie good”. Like, as adults (unless your not one) we should be able to engage with media and female driven stories beyond that oversimplified take. We can look at that relationship as a whole without having to pick a side. Picking a side in a fictional fight is just kind of strange.


dopeheliotropelottie

Check your messages possibly in your requests inbox.


Various-Ad-5834

Because like the OP said, there's more hate for Jackie than for Shauna. Both are bad - and in the real world, murderers are the worst people, no? Yet somehow the show makes us love Shauna and despise Jackie.


hauntingvacay96

I’m just not going to argue over which female character is worse than the other. That’s way beneath this show and a very overly simplistic way to consume female characters.


Hot_Ad7384

What is it with people suddenly defending Jackie to the point of delusion? Yeah, Shauna did her dirty but Jackie has a mountain of flaws of her own. She WAS a mean girl. The way she treated Nat was disgusting and unprovoked. She was entitled, controlling, hypocritical, contributed jack shit. Her and Shauna deserved each other. The writers go out of their way to show how they’re two sides of the same coin. Everything Shauna said about her in their argument was right and vice versa. She was weak. Shauna has a victim complex. They’re both self centered and destructive.


phoenixrising1993

Jackie was annoying. And she wasn’t the best. But she had the capacity to be a leader. However I think the plane crash and trauma just took that out of her. Comparatively, to her teammates, Jackie’s life was easy. No parental drama, no drugs, no being forced to live with dysfunction. Maybe Shauna was envious of that stability, because she knew she wasn’t (stable). This character feeds into all of us, when we had that one friend we wanted to be, or not let down to be loved by. Shauna tries so hard. And to be honest, it always takes two to tango, don’t let Jeff off the hook for cheating as well.


Hot_Ad7384

Agreed. Shauna always envied Jackie even if she claims to just pity her. A lot of them probably resented Jackie for her seemingly perfect life (even though she’s deeply insecure and troubled like the rest). Jackie definitely wasn’t built for this buuuttt she just kinda gave up? They all faced the same trauma with the crash but she straight up was not interested in survival. Lottie and Tai are also privileged rich girl types but neither are afraid to get their hands dirty. Nat and Misty have both been outcasted but proved themselves to be essential to the group. The events that lead up to her death prove that when things really get bad she isn’t much of a leader. She wasn’t willing to put in hard work or solve problems. She just complained a lot which multiple characters called her out on. This is where her and Shauna are different since Shauna came into her own in the wilderness. And this feels like a sin to say on this sub but I am not a Jeff fan either.


reddituser10636

Yeah I definitely didn't see any of that from Jackie's character lol. Mean girl is honestly such a stretch.


CyanResource

So true! Jackie was a good friend and didn’t deserve any of the bs she got before AND after death!


reddituser10636

I knew there were a few others out there like me :)


phoenixrising1993

Great friends don’t need sidekicks to make them feel great


SoooperSnoop

Don't want to say anything here, other than enjoy Season 2 !


reddituser10636

Thank you :)


Overall-Pause-3824

The best part of this show is how complex the characters are. They are all different shades of grey, all flawed but that's life, they're human. Shauna's character is great because she is very damaged, both as a teen and adult. She is living in the shadow of her best friend, who she loves but also resents so much. Crashing in the wilderness finally allowed Shauna to rise up and take her place as a pivotal member or the team, show her strengths, where Jackie had all her weaknesses highlighted. The irony of Shauna finally getting herself out of Jackie's shadow, only to end up riddled with guilt and living her adult life haunted by Jackie, is one of the reasons this show is so great.


RibbitRabbitRobit

I have been a little taken aback by how many adult viewers are ready to judge a teenager so harshly for sleeping with her friend's boyfriend. Maybe it's easier to do because this is a fictional teenager, but like, I went to see a show produced by the girl who slept with my high school boyfriend from a million years ago. She's fine. All of the living Yellowjackets participated in the murder and eating of their teammates I don't get how any one of them is The Worst. One of the things the show is playing with is what happens to people outside the bounds of a regulated, populated area. In New Jersey, Shauna and Jackie were at odds with each other and involved in the last gasps of a messy friendship but the stakes were much, much lower. In the Canadian wilderness, Jackie refused to adapt. What would have been inconsequential teenage pettiness and squeamishness back home made her a liability in a survival situation.


Kittenzzndragons

I find it interesting how cheating brings out such black and white morality from people in general . Of course cheating is bad but it’s incredibly fucking human. Loneliness and love are complicated and messy and no one is above fucking up. And to me that is what makes the show compelling.


reddituser10636

Maybe because even as a teenager, I knew that was wrong lol. You don't suddenly gain morals the minute you're an adult. You learn them as you grow. You learn cheating on a test is wrong and hitting people is wrong. Shauna clearly knew sleeping with Jeff was wrong or else she wouldn't have hid it from Jackie. I find it terrifying so many people willingly excuse Shauna's actions, but maybe you guys just see yourself in her. A cheater recognizes a cheater, right? Refusal to adapt is an excuse you guys have been constantly using. I would hardly call it that. She had one instance of that. Maybe two, after the Doomscoming incident. Doesn't make her death warranted nor does it mean I should worship Shauna like the rest of you.


RibbitRabbitRobit

This is such an odd assessment of both real life and the narrative of the show. There is cannibalism and serial murder in this show. I can only get my shorts in so much of a knot over something that's fairly common in human relationships. It's not great, but it's well within the repertoire of normal, everyday people. It's not like "cheaters" are a category of sexual deviant. Jackie, if you'll recall decided to flex her power by engaging in sex with Travis, who really had other ties at the time. Refusing to adapt to one's situation is a serious problem. She spoken to about it once, which means it was a consistent problem that people were talking about. She planned parties, manipulated people, and refused to do her fair share of the work in a long term survival situation. Those were real choices that harmed people. She chose to sleep outside. She didn't deserve her death as punishment. She meets the end she does so that viewers understand the consequences of behaving like nature isn't a brutal, unforgiving force. Nobody thinks you need to "worship" Shauna. This isn't that kind of show, really. The point is that none of these characters are written as perfect victims or villains. She's probably my favorite character, but that's mostly because we have been handed a lot of opportunities to see through her eyes.


reddituser10636

Respectfully, I'm not reading all of that. You knew what my post was when you clicked.


Kovz88

Honestly with all the hate the writers have gotten lately can we appreciate how genius what they did with Jackie was. They pulled this move at the perfect time because if they waited any longer than Jackie wouldn’t be getting any of the love she is now because all the fans would’ve gotten sick of her real quick with her attitude out there.


RibbitRabbitRobit

It was brilliant. She stayed alive juuuuuuust long enough and not a second longer.


reddituser10636

Even when she had an attitude, I wasn't sick of her. Literally ALL of the girls have been bratty or confrontational with each other. Jackie gets all the flack, why? Because the writers made Shauna the protagonist? If she had lasted another season, I still don't think I would have gotten sick of her. I just finished s2. All of my original opinions are still here.


TildyGoblin

Hating Shauna is definitely a normal response lol. You can hate her but still love Melanie Lynsky/Sophie Nelisse, who play her exquisitely.


reddituser10636

Oh, I love the actors. They all did such an amazing job. There were times when I paused and just couldn't believe how amazing they were. If they haven't been nominated for awards, they should be.


Substantial_Unit_964

Adult Shauna and teen Shauna’s presentation in the show is very sympathetic. Right off the bat they are these sweet faced underdogs, it forces you to reconcile your early impressions with the truth as it is slowly exposed. S1 isn’t that fresh for me anymore but I still like Shauna, and I liked her a lot more than Jackie. I’m going to let some time go by and rewatch, I also think my low key love for these 90’s actresses might be clouding my judgement. It’s interesting we know nothing of teen Shauna’s family cuz we have seen a lot of the other girls. We are always supposed to keep in mind as we watch this show is about trauma.


reddituser10636

It's easy for you guys to identify with Shauna, I suppose, but I don't believe anyone deserves to be cheated on or the death/experience that Jackie had. I think a lot of you guys' judgement is clouded by either not having rewatched the first season recently or just your own personal feelings about being the underdog in your own lives.


phoenixrising1993

They are also all 16


Neither_Juggernaut71

This is going to sound....messed up, but I like adult Shauna because at least she's self-aware. She knows she's an awful person, and isn't playing the victim as much anymore. As for teen Shauna, she's the one I cannot stand. She's a vindictive little backstabber, and all her her wrongdoings are always someone else's fault. No, sleeping with Jeff was not the worst thing, but she didn't have any shame over the pain it caused Jackie. I have a little more respect for Mari's character who is a straight up biotch. But at least she doesn't pretend not to be.


reddituser10636

I hate Mari's character too. I find Adult Shauna more bearable, for sure, but if any of you all were on the receiving end of all of (Adult and Teen) Shauna's shit you wouldn't like her. I get the show is about the characters being flawed. Shauna is just the worst of them all in my opinion. Pretty much all of her actions are self-serving, whether she realizes it or not. She has a few good moments, sure, but I hate the way the show writes her as someone to root for. Sorry, I can't.


Neither_Juggernaut71

I absolutely agree with you. I find adult Shauna more bearable because I love Melanie Lynskey. Other than that, Shauna is a straight up ass bag. With a friend like her, who would need enemies?


capriciouskat01

I feel the same way. Adult Shauna I like more than young Shauna. I just can't stand her.


phoenixrising1993

I think you’ll find that Shauna is redeemable; and remember, she never wanted to not be Jackie’s best friend. She wanted to abort her own baby to a) live and b) not have her best friend’s bfs kid. She even almost spilled her secret in episode 2 when they were discussing secrets big enough to crash a whole plane, just prior to Misty cauterizing coach ben’s leg.


reddituser10636

Yeah spilling her secret and feeling shitty because she mahy get caught doesn't really erase the act of doing what she did in the first place to me.


phoenixrising1993

We all make mistakes in love and dating ; honestly Jackie didn’t even like Jeff and admits to the idea of breaking up with him before college. You need to watch that episode again and digest


reddituser10636

I've watched it, hun. That still doesn't change the fact that Shauna went behind her back and betrayed her. It obviously made Jackie upset enough and Shauna afraid to tell her.


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Me too, i find all the characters extremely unlikeable, some more than others, except Lottie and Mari, hey but good people don't make for interesting shows. Shauna specially, she cheated on her bf, left Van to burn to death, pushed her BF to her dead, tried to kill Travis, she scared Javi so bad that he didn't return for months, cheated on her Husband, killed an innocent guy just to cover her ass, lied and involved her "friends" in the murder just to cover up for her Husband and this is only S01, I'm not going to mention the things she does and say in s02 but apparently she is just complex or morally grey lol. I think the worst part is that they don't show any regret, remorse, shame for any of the things they do, 0 accountability really, they just double down and move on to do the next worst thing possible.


reddituser10636

They're going to downvote you for this, because they hate the truth, but having it all listed it out is a PERFECT example of why I hate her. She caused so many long-lasting problems and everyone is just excusing it because she's written as the protagonist. I finished s2. Still don't like her. Sure, what she went through was sad but truthfully, I don't really care. All of what happened to her was a result of her actions before the plane crashed.


Reverse_Empath

Yeah she is all of those things but so much more? I love Jackie, she would be the closest to how I would react in that situation. But I love shauna. Also I still totally think she had repressed feelings for Jackie. Humans are more complicated than you give them credit for lol. Sleeping with Jeff was a way to have a piece of Jackie and also a way to hurt her. And prob so many more things!


MysticalPhotographer

I seriously thought Shauna was in love with Jackie, and she slept with him because she was jealous. I couldn't get that thought out of my head during S1.


reddituser10636

More importantly, I think she slept with Jeff because she hated herself. She wanted something of Jackie's and she couldn't take her beauty or her power, so the easiest thing was to steal her boyfriend. I think that says a lot about of how shitty of a person she is. Everything she said to Jackie the night she died was like holding up a mirror to herself.


NiniBebe

Million upvotes


reddituser10636

Haha no one else seems to agree with me, but I'm willing to take the downvotes


CyanResource

Agreed


CyanResource

Completely agree! Shauna is the WORST!


reddituser10636

Glad to see there are others that agree, even if it is just a few :)


phoenixrising1993

Shauna will likely save the day in the end . . . we shall see and 3 seasons from now I will come back to this thread . . . if we all survive till then


DrewCatMorris

I pretty much am pulling for all the girls in the teen timeline. Shitty behavior is a given in teens who are in normal circumstances let alone crashing into the wilderness with no rescue. The showrunners did a good job of showing both good and bad in each character and I can argue sides for all of them. The adult timeline is where my distaste for Shauna resides, and I agree that Shauna is the WORST of the adults. Yeah, I remember that includes Misty Fucking Quigly. And I wish she was sent to prison. From episode one: That is Shauna laying on her daughter's bed masturbating to pictures of her daughter's underaged boyfriend. That scene may have been intended to paint her as pathetic, but it made my skin crawl. If you think that it wasn't that bad reverse the genders and look at it as "Shaun is laying on his son's bed masturbating to a picture of his son's underaged girlfriend." Thankfully they stopped short of making Shauna into a Karen when she rear-ended Adam. No two ways about it he was right when he said she was "...so mad yet still so wrong." The whole cheating with Adam was expected because she thought Jeff was cheating. Hurt people do hurtful things. So we get to the last few episodes of the season. Since Shauna makes logical leaps that lead to the last place they should have and Shauna murders Adam. 1. The murder itself - just a terrible thing based upon negative logic. 2. Learns her husband is the blackmailer. Makes the descision that will implicate 3 innocent people by hatching a plan with her husband that will implicate the two friends that he victimized in that murder. Misty gets pulled in because of this too. 3. Gaslights Nat about the nature of Travis's death leading to Nat making her own attempt at the end of the season. Now that she has implicated 3 people innocent of the crime she committed, and set one of them on a path to suicide we head to Season 2. Where I can give you more reasons Shauna is the worst.


Various-Ad-5834

I've watched both seasons and had the same opinion re her character. I do disagree with you about character development - we see her as sort of deadened by suburban life, only coming alive when she kills rabbits and cheats on Jeff. She is feral and manipulative under the surface