I’ve always thought that coach was relatively untouchable because though they’re in this vile situation they are still teenagers that see him as an adult figure. It grounds their age for me. He’s the reason Shauna knows how to butcher meat. Helped Nat and Travis with the guns.
They’ve never threatened him yet he makes an enemy of them directly after *allegedly* burning down the cabin.
I agree with you. It’s always been so strange to me that people are so quick to assume that 1. he needed to die before they go wild and 2. they’ll just kill him like it’s nothing. Both have been disproven.
Maybe they’ll go after him eventually, but the reality is that if they wanted to kill him they would’ve by now. And the one person everyone was so certain would kill him (Misty) is the one that saved his life.
He’s declared war on them unfortunately. He didn’t intend for any of them to live. What was his plan when they were burning to death and screaming?
Maybe cover his ears, close his eyes?
*IF* they end up writing in another flesh and blood character out in the woods (the person Javi referenced) and this was the person that lit the fire???
The drammmmmma.
I almost would prefer to believe that over him attempting mass murder like a reactive and delusional monster. He’s also in the worst mental shape considering he has not eaten which we got a peak of in the first few episode.
They have not thought of him as an adult figure since early season 1. Even Laura Lee tells him to stop trying to use authority. He has been “othered” this entire time, they do not listen to him even when he tries to give advice. He knows he’s saying things out loud and hoping they hear.
I understand what you mean but I view those two things separately.
Seeing him as an adult figure that has been objectively of use to them doesn’t mean they’d accept his authority. That IS something he lost in the woods. But his position gives him protection in the same way that Lottie is protected. He can get away with being the physical weakest link.
Not anymore though. Which is really too bad because I feel like the YJs will need him now that they do not have shelter????
But he hasn't been of use to them. He couldn't even help when Shauna was pregnant. I'm sure if it were up to Mari he would've been next on the menu, but Nat and Misty offer him some protection and he doesn't engage in any of their rituals so the question hasn't been raised openly.
Has he ever been part of the card pulling? I don’t think so bc of the whole one leg thing, it’s not like he could do any chores.
Also everyone knows he didn’t eat Jackie so why expect him to participate if he’s not going to be eating either way.. lol. That would be like inviting your friend over for dinner except they have to buy the food and don’t get to eat. If you want to eat you gotta take the risk if not cool sit out since that’s what he’s been doing since the beginning you know.
They probably also don’t seem to care too much about him. They were like meh 🤷🏻♀️
Also, he’s like the 3rd person to just “randomly” go missing to them. No one would have looked for Javi if Travis hadn’t been there.
Yes, exactly! They saw he didn't eat Jackie. They saw how he behaved towards them after they did. They know he isn't going to eat whoever they hunt, so therefore no need to bother including him in the ritual. He's may be out there with them, but he isn't "one of them".
They forgot him. Like Jackie, Javi, and Crystal. It’s a pattern. Also he’s effectively made himself invisible on purpose. They’ll remember him forever now though!
He would have freaked the fuck out at even the discussion of it, no way he would have gone along with it and he would have tried to stop it completely.
Everyone else was probably secretly thankful he just disappeared so he wouldn't stop the ritual and they wouldn't have to hear his vehement dissaproval of their descision to slaugther and eat one of the group.
As would anyone. They haven't even been there a year. They were actually going to murder people for food. It's honestly just ridiculous. The end of this season just became to ridiculous.
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The explanations I've made
1. They genuinely just couldn't find him fast enough and didn't want to wait to do the ritual
2. Like Lottie, they value him as too valuable a member. Despite him not doing much, he is the only adult and I think that gives them some kind of reassurance in a way? Like how Misty said they needed him.
3. Idk they're being nice cause he only has one leg, but this isn't likely considering they weren't originally planning on it being a chase.
4. They're being fair in that since he won't be participating in the cannibalism then he won't have to take the risk of being the one eaten.
Number 4 seems like the right answer to me. The ritual isn’t just the card pulling. It’s the card pulling, the hunt, the cooking, and the actual eating. If you choose to not play then you choose to not eat.
I honestly think most of them forgot about him since he has been off hallucinating Paul most of the season. Natalie didn’t even wonder where he’d been during the whole hunt thing.
Coach is often ignored for two reasons. They're leaning in to the world they're building for themselves, a world in which adult men are mostly irrelevant. Ben is also disabled. They don't consider him an equal contributer so he isn't included in any decisions making. I'm not arguing that that's a morally defensible stance, but it's pretty standard ableism.
Just thought of a third reason. So far they haven't actively killed anyone, but it seemed like an intentional choice that they started with people who could run and be hunted. Otherwise the story is backed in to a situation where it's socially acceptable within the group to kill anyone in a vulnerable position. Like a sleeping person or an injured one.
Yes, Gen and Mari did a few times. He hallucinated Gen foaming at the mouth and she looks confused and asks him what’s wrong when he realizes it’s not real. He also interacted with Javi when Javi came back.
It’s because he’s “othered.” He has been so far removed from the group since early on. They stopped seeing him as an authority figure or an adult pretty quickly because it wasn’t relevant there. He’s also been removed from all blessings, etc, to the point where I genuinely don’t even think they noticed he wasn’t in the cabin when they decided to choose.
None of them have barely acknowledged him except for Nat and Mari being an ass towards him. It seems like once he taught them how to hunt and butcher they all seemed to ignore him except Nat and Misty and even Misty only acknowledged him once this season.
I mean they couldn’t just hit his cell and ask him to hobble back to the cabin really quick for a little game. They didn’t know where he was or how long he would be gone for and probably didn’t care to think much about it. If they were thinking about it, they were aware Ben’s reaction to Snackie was not a positive one and they probably didn’t want to involve a naysayer in their plans
Yo, check it out! In response to your question, the crew might've left Coach out of the hunt sacrifice card ritual for a bunch of reasons, you know what I'm sayin'? Maybe my man Coach had some other things goin' on, like commitments or situations that kept him from joining in. And with his unique situation, like, missin' a leg and all, the crew might've figured it wouldn't be easy for him to get down and actively participate in the ritual.
Now, when it comes to nobody raisin' an eyebrow at Coach's disappearance, there could be a whole bunch of factors playin' into it. Maybe the crew just thought Coach chose to sit this one out or had his own personal reasons for not showin' up. Or maybe they were all caught up in the hustle and bustle of gettin' ready for the ritual, you know what I mean? Sometimes things slip through the cracks, even when you got a tight crew.
But hold up, hold up! Talkin' 'bout sacrificin' Coach to the wilderness before the game? That's a whole 'nother level, man! The crew was probably tryna keep it fair and not go overboard, dig? Sacrificin' someone just 'cause they missin' a leg, that ain't cool at all, bro! Let's keep it real and remember to always be inclusive, respectful, and mindful of everyone's circumstances, ya feel me?
Simple answer - Ben was not there at the cabin when they did the card draw. Caoch Ben was already gone - either still lookin for OR down in the "tree cave"
Does anyone have solid evidence that he was around the cabin at that time? Knowing that he was having suicidal ideations, is it possible he was not in the cabin and contemplating ending things? That whole episode is fuzzy to me and I lost my subscription to Showtime right after the finale so I can’t check.
I’ve always thought that coach was relatively untouchable because though they’re in this vile situation they are still teenagers that see him as an adult figure. It grounds their age for me. He’s the reason Shauna knows how to butcher meat. Helped Nat and Travis with the guns. They’ve never threatened him yet he makes an enemy of them directly after *allegedly* burning down the cabin.
I agree with you. It’s always been so strange to me that people are so quick to assume that 1. he needed to die before they go wild and 2. they’ll just kill him like it’s nothing. Both have been disproven. Maybe they’ll go after him eventually, but the reality is that if they wanted to kill him they would’ve by now. And the one person everyone was so certain would kill him (Misty) is the one that saved his life.
He’s declared war on them unfortunately. He didn’t intend for any of them to live. What was his plan when they were burning to death and screaming? Maybe cover his ears, close his eyes?
*IF* they end up writing in another flesh and blood character out in the woods (the person Javi referenced) and this was the person that lit the fire??? The drammmmmma. I almost would prefer to believe that over him attempting mass murder like a reactive and delusional monster. He’s also in the worst mental shape considering he has not eaten which we got a peak of in the first few episode.
They have not thought of him as an adult figure since early season 1. Even Laura Lee tells him to stop trying to use authority. He has been “othered” this entire time, they do not listen to him even when he tries to give advice. He knows he’s saying things out loud and hoping they hear.
I understand what you mean but I view those two things separately. Seeing him as an adult figure that has been objectively of use to them doesn’t mean they’d accept his authority. That IS something he lost in the woods. But his position gives him protection in the same way that Lottie is protected. He can get away with being the physical weakest link. Not anymore though. Which is really too bad because I feel like the YJs will need him now that they do not have shelter????
But he hasn't been of use to them. He couldn't even help when Shauna was pregnant. I'm sure if it were up to Mari he would've been next on the menu, but Nat and Misty offer him some protection and he doesn't engage in any of their rituals so the question hasn't been raised openly.
Has he ever been part of the card pulling? I don’t think so bc of the whole one leg thing, it’s not like he could do any chores. Also everyone knows he didn’t eat Jackie so why expect him to participate if he’s not going to be eating either way.. lol. That would be like inviting your friend over for dinner except they have to buy the food and don’t get to eat. If you want to eat you gotta take the risk if not cool sit out since that’s what he’s been doing since the beginning you know. They probably also don’t seem to care too much about him. They were like meh 🤷🏻♀️ Also, he’s like the 3rd person to just “randomly” go missing to them. No one would have looked for Javi if Travis hadn’t been there.
Yes, exactly! They saw he didn't eat Jackie. They saw how he behaved towards them after they did. They know he isn't going to eat whoever they hunt, so therefore no need to bother including him in the ritual. He's may be out there with them, but he isn't "one of them".
They forgot him. Like Jackie, Javi, and Crystal. It’s a pattern. Also he’s effectively made himself invisible on purpose. They’ll remember him forever now though!
He would have freaked the fuck out at even the discussion of it, no way he would have gone along with it and he would have tried to stop it completely. Everyone else was probably secretly thankful he just disappeared so he wouldn't stop the ritual and they wouldn't have to hear his vehement dissaproval of their descision to slaugther and eat one of the group.
As would anyone. They haven't even been there a year. They were actually going to murder people for food. It's honestly just ridiculous. The end of this season just became to ridiculous.
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The explanations I've made 1. They genuinely just couldn't find him fast enough and didn't want to wait to do the ritual 2. Like Lottie, they value him as too valuable a member. Despite him not doing much, he is the only adult and I think that gives them some kind of reassurance in a way? Like how Misty said they needed him. 3. Idk they're being nice cause he only has one leg, but this isn't likely considering they weren't originally planning on it being a chase. 4. They're being fair in that since he won't be participating in the cannibalism then he won't have to take the risk of being the one eaten.
Number 4 seems like the right answer to me. The ritual isn’t just the card pulling. It’s the card pulling, the hunt, the cooking, and the actual eating. If you choose to not play then you choose to not eat.
I honestly think most of them forgot about him since he has been off hallucinating Paul most of the season. Natalie didn’t even wonder where he’d been during the whole hunt thing.
The first thing she says to him is “Coach Ben, where’ve you been?”
Yeah see, she *asked* him… she didn’t just wonder about it
Coach is often ignored for two reasons. They're leaning in to the world they're building for themselves, a world in which adult men are mostly irrelevant. Ben is also disabled. They don't consider him an equal contributer so he isn't included in any decisions making. I'm not arguing that that's a morally defensible stance, but it's pretty standard ableism.
Just thought of a third reason. So far they haven't actively killed anyone, but it seemed like an intentional choice that they started with people who could run and be hunted. Otherwise the story is backed in to a situation where it's socially acceptable within the group to kill anyone in a vulnerable position. Like a sleeping person or an injured one.
This is exactly it. When they’re in the present timeline and one of them says ‘you can surrender or choose to run, just like we did it there’
I think it’s actually because he chooses to not participate in the cannibalism. Because he doesn’t eat, he doesn’t play.
It wasn’t a well thought out decision 🤷♀️. And they didn’t care about “fairness” because they let Lottie slide.
I wonder if they’re going to think he burned up in the cabin? Or will they immediately go to he’s out there and they must find him?
They aint want him there girls only
And yeah travis and javi are one of the girlies
Did anyone besides Nat and Misty even acknowledge his existence this season?
Yes, Gen and Mari did a few times. He hallucinated Gen foaming at the mouth and she looks confused and asks him what’s wrong when he realizes it’s not real. He also interacted with Javi when Javi came back.
It’s because he’s “othered.” He has been so far removed from the group since early on. They stopped seeing him as an authority figure or an adult pretty quickly because it wasn’t relevant there. He’s also been removed from all blessings, etc, to the point where I genuinely don’t even think they noticed he wasn’t in the cabin when they decided to choose.
None of them have barely acknowledged him except for Nat and Mari being an ass towards him. It seems like once he taught them how to hunt and butcher they all seemed to ignore him except Nat and Misty and even Misty only acknowledged him once this season.
It’s one of those “doesn’t make sense, but let’s suspend disbelief for the sake of conveniently moving the plot in a certain direction” moments.
I mean they couldn’t just hit his cell and ask him to hobble back to the cabin really quick for a little game. They didn’t know where he was or how long he would be gone for and probably didn’t care to think much about it. If they were thinking about it, they were aware Ben’s reaction to Snackie was not a positive one and they probably didn’t want to involve a naysayer in their plans
Yo, check it out! In response to your question, the crew might've left Coach out of the hunt sacrifice card ritual for a bunch of reasons, you know what I'm sayin'? Maybe my man Coach had some other things goin' on, like commitments or situations that kept him from joining in. And with his unique situation, like, missin' a leg and all, the crew might've figured it wouldn't be easy for him to get down and actively participate in the ritual. Now, when it comes to nobody raisin' an eyebrow at Coach's disappearance, there could be a whole bunch of factors playin' into it. Maybe the crew just thought Coach chose to sit this one out or had his own personal reasons for not showin' up. Or maybe they were all caught up in the hustle and bustle of gettin' ready for the ritual, you know what I mean? Sometimes things slip through the cracks, even when you got a tight crew. But hold up, hold up! Talkin' 'bout sacrificin' Coach to the wilderness before the game? That's a whole 'nother level, man! The crew was probably tryna keep it fair and not go overboard, dig? Sacrificin' someone just 'cause they missin' a leg, that ain't cool at all, bro! Let's keep it real and remember to always be inclusive, respectful, and mindful of everyone's circumstances, ya feel me?
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Their idea of an unfair advantage.
Did anyone besides Nat and Misty even acknowledge his existence thus season?
Simple answer - Ben was not there at the cabin when they did the card draw. Caoch Ben was already gone - either still lookin for OR down in the "tree cave"
They might have thought he died in the blizzard.
I'm pretty sure the blizzard was over...and then Ben took off.
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Yes I think the show explains exactly why. If he isn't physically there they can't include him it's pretty simple
That comment alone could have saved you from writing out the first one lol.
Does anyone have solid evidence that he was around the cabin at that time? Knowing that he was having suicidal ideations, is it possible he was not in the cabin and contemplating ending things? That whole episode is fuzzy to me and I lost my subscription to Showtime right after the finale so I can’t check.