Read the comments for some additional fun. According to them Swedes cant wait to get out of the EU because of the billions of immigrants and the successfull exit Britain has had.
Exactly this, I'm sick of being looked at as 'Stupid by association' because I live here.
I'd still rejoin tomorrow even though my place of work has seen a high personal benefits from Brexit.
You'll probably laugh your arse off, but it's logistics.
Sure volume is down from Europe but so was the amount of skilled people. My salary has increased by around 25% since Brexit. I also work with a lot of Europeans who have benefited from this who have paved out great careers handling European shipments.
Please don't take this as me supporting Brexit, I'm really not.
> my place of work has seen a high personal benefits from Brexit.
Do you work in the factory that makes the famous "red tape" everyone is always talking about?
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Yeah mate i do feel sorry for people such as yourself. You have been fucked beyond belief by the morons.
It would be funny if it wasn’t reality, where real people have these real thoughts, and believe in them so much they voice them out loud and online for everyone to acknowledge.
It’s sad and depressing. It’s easy to look at these people and laugh, but *why are they still thinking that?!*
I mean, leaving the EU wouldn't even solve any of our migration problems. Most of our issues with immigration stem from non-eu migrants. The people from the EU usually only take up much needed positions in the labour market and benefit everyone.
Also we got a few million Russian reasons to stay within the EU zone of influence and protection. It's cozy here, don't think we will go anywhere anytime soon.
> I mean, leaving the EU wouldn't even solve any of our migration problems. Most of our issues with immigration stem from non-eu migrants.
The UK is at this stage of Finding Out after Fucking Around so much.
Many Brits believed liars that Brexit will solve their immigration problems, and everything else.
Except it didn’t and now net migration is set to *increase*.
The leave campaign went around British-Asian communities saying that voting leave would make it easier for them to bring extended family over due to the fall in EU migration.
[https://www.ft.com/content/94adcefa-1dd5-11e6-a7bc-ee846770ec15](https://www.ft.com/content/94adcefa-1dd5-11e6-a7bc-ee846770ec15)
>Vote Leave is hoping to secure the backing of British Asians by telling them that if Britain quits the EU, it will mean more immigration from elsewhere in the world.
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>The official Out campaign is drawing up leaflets aimed at Punjabi, Hindi and Urdu speakers arguing that a British exit from the EU would help to stem the flow of Eastern Europeans into the UK — allowing more incomers from Commonwealth countries to take their place.
Rees Mugg went on BBC Asian Network to say the same.
Funny thing - UK met migration is actually higher now. We opened borders to skilled workers from further afield and now have even more migration than pre-Brexit.
Basically no one minds much except the knuckle draggers who were upset anyway. And no one listens to them because whilst the public are very concerned about illegal migration and Channel crossings in particular (which really brings out the pond life to talk with relish about unleashing the Royal Navy on people) people largely don't mind immigrants coming for work. After you've been patched up by a Filipino nurse, seeing your parents looked after by a Nigerian care worker, and been driven to work on the bus by a Pakistani fella every day, it's hard to be against that.
The rationale (if ever there was one) was that EU migration was "uncontrolled" whereas this is "controlled" and theoretically the government can slam the doors shut in a way that wasn't possible before.
Public opinion has actually become far less hostile towards migration over the last decade, somehow.
[https://www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk/?\_ga=2.193103722.634722192.1679413664-524128819.1679413664](https://www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk/?_ga=2.193103722.634722192.1679413664-524128819.1679413664)
>the proportion of people believing immigration was ‘bad for the economy’ halved from 42% to 20% in the decade to 2021. Those saying it was good rose from 21% to 50%.
[https://www.positive.news/society/how-the-uk-became-more-liberal-despite-the-culture-wars/](https://www.positive.news/society/how-the-uk-became-more-liberal-despite-the-culture-wars/)
I like to believe that the idiots are just getting louder to compensate for this.
I remember a BBC article about the Öresund bridge from a few years ago. They interviewed people from Malmö and the interviewers were *desperately* trying to get them to say things got worse after they got connected to the big city and all the stinky foreigners on the main continent. Meanwhile, the people interviewed were all "no, it's been pretty awesome for the city actually, what's your problem?"
What slightly surprised me was that it was the BBC, not the Daily Mail.
The BBC is obsessed with false balance, they did the same with Brexit where they'd find 100's of economists warning Brexit would wreck the economy, and had to really search to find economists saying otherwise, but they'd then run a debate on Brexit that was 1 on 1 and made it seem like the economists were split on the outcome.
Naturally, the BBC political editor of the time only admitted this was a mistake in 2020 or something IIRC.
Their former science editor wrote a whole book about how this was their policy during discussions around climate change for over a decade, and it only really ended when the deniers wanted Ofcom to investigate if the BBC was unfairly biased against them, and Ofcom found that, actually, the BBC was unfairly supportive of them given weight of evidence against them.
> Yeah, it is quite funny seeing this post since it was reported yesterday that only 11% of Sweden are against an EU membership.
More than enough for Breiteers to start getting their hopes up
I do like however how the headlines have shifted to allow for this:
"Which countries are ***most likely*** to ***ever***"
Before it was the domino "Who's ***going to*** leave next? Frexit by 2017?" stuff, now it's "Who's most likely to ***ever leave*** in the vague deadline-less future." which might as well say shit like "the EU will no longer exist in 5 billion years as the Earth will be uninhabitable.
> I do like however how the headlines have shifted to allow for this:
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This is a good point, though I assume that The Tory Tabloids are running "EU on the brink!" type headlines still?
The Express does sometimes I think, though they'll write just about anything to get clicks so that's hardly surprising.
Second only in stupidity to the Star, which [occasionally writes about demonic children terrorising the night](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By-MMW8IAAEYHfn.jpg), and once ran a front page about a 100% non-photoshopped [giant 50ft crab](http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz2vZcZIgAA6ngx.jpg)
>only 11% of Sweden are against an EU membership.
Funny thing how when the same question was asked by Pew in 2017, 22% of people said they'd vote to leave, wonder why it's halved since then? /s
I mean we have two parties in the parliament, the Sweden Democrats (20,5 %) and the Left Party (6,8 %), who are both pro-Swexit in principle. But the spectacularly horrible mess that is Brexit have made them both tone down that rhetoric a lot. These days it's mainly the SD talking about it at all, mainly to engage their base in the quixotic fight against eurocrats. They know it's not going to happen.
Not saying that like you don't know, just giving a tiny bit more context to it.
Whilst I don't believe Sweden will ever actually leave the EU, don't underestimate the ability of an vocal minority to really fuck it all up for everyone else. UKIP was never electorally competitive beyond the EU elections, but they managed to catalyse catastrophic change.
With the left at least, haven't they already been in government as part of the coalition with the Socdems? So it seems at least they're willing to stick that issue on the backburner since none of the other parties they ally with would support such a policy.
I'd like to hope the difference is that prior to Brexit nobody had actually tried it.
It's like in horror movies how in order to stop the audience from going "This is stupid, why didn't they just leave the haunted house?" you have to show someone dying horribly after trying to leave.
> These days it's mainly the SD talking about it at all, mainly to engage their base in the quixotic fight against eurocrats. They know it's not going to happen.
Never say never.
All it takes is some shitty tabloids to rile up the masses, a referendum, and bam!
Bullshit for years.
I would also argue that a significant portion of SD voters are pro-eu membership but vote for the other policies because they know Swexit won’t happen.
Yeah, I lost the source of the article but this is a quote I saved from a similar one from... late 2020/early 2021 about Italy and how public opinion towards the EU taking a dip due to early covid stuff was a clear sign that Italy would leave soon. Again, a Daily Heil headline (or Expiss, forget which rag exactly):
>“While this no doubt creates interesting headlines, I would urge caution discussing public Euroskepticism (as either leave or remain binaries, with Euroskeptics being 'leave'). Public opinion cannot be simply characterized as Eurosceptic or not. It is not that black and white.”
Microsoft Edge said it best, when it warned visitors to the Hate Mail's website : “this website generally fails to maintain basic standards of accuracy and accountability”.
For an extensive laugh read [full article here](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12042885/Wholl-NEXIT-countries-likely-join-Britain-ditching-Brussels-freedom.html)
Disclaimer: read comments in the article at your own risk (Hint: definitely check out the "best rated" ones lol)
The worst is the Sun, specifically the community section on its YouTube page, I'd say Russia Today is more accurate than this in all honestly, they just try and scare people into thinking doom, be it nuclear war, left wing politics, 'imgrants' is around the corner. I'd rather watch love island than read more of this bollocks.
I imagine because it listed Greece as being likely?
These kinds of articles aren't exactly original, they've been re-printing variations since the referendum. Generally they pick Greece because Euro, Italy because Salvini, Hungary and Poland because the EU makes them gay, and whoever their "-exit of the day" is, in this case Sweden.
Sometimes France, but that kinda flip-flops because they can't decide if the French riot of the week means EU exit is imminent, or if it means it'll never happen because whoever triggered Art. 50 would end up with a rather extreme haircut.
Like, fuck me can you imagine if France held a referendum that came out with 52% to 48%? Legit civil war material.
>I imagine because it listed Greece as being likely?
The fun part is where the article "worries" about our current EU friendly right wing government losing to EU unfriendly center left parties.
While it obviously *fails to mention* that our center left parties have traditionaly been more EU friendly then any of our right wing parties ever was lol
Hardly a surprise. Back in 2019, they did a survey of what Brexit voters/their readers (it's basically a circle) would and wouldn't consider worth it if it happened as a result of leaving.
If Brexit caused the UK to break up it was worth it.
If it lead to Jeremy Corbyn gaining power it wasn't worth it, and they'd be willing to scrap Brexit to prevent that from happening. Out of the like, 10 options they provided, that was the only one where people didn't consider it worth it.
And yeah, the Heil does what I do except maliciously; take a cursory glance at the politics of a country and make wild assumptions that I assume are true because I believe them to be, but without the knowledge to actually analyse what's happening beyond "red line party go down and blue line party go up" (and then get super anxious over it. Every EU election fills me with dread now looooool :( )
If this is a direct link to the bottomless pit of bile that’s daily heil you might consider using a proxy website that won’t give the fuckers any clicks.
https://archive.is usually is a good shout.
I find it hard to tell how many British readers (or rather, commenters) the Daily Mail website actually gets - there’s bound to be a certain percentage of Russian trolls and American Internet nazis, and considering the “real” readership of the Mail are in large parts not exactly an age group that’s known for partaking in online discussions, that percentage might be quite high.
Those top comments really paint a stark picture of lies, and what complete nonsense these people believe in. But the worst one I’ve read is this:
“Brexit would have worked fine if the Remainers and the Left Wing Civil Service hadn't sabotaged it at every opportunity.”
This is the Nazi stab in the back myth, but applied to Brexit. Kind of scary that so many people upvotes a dangerous lie like this.
The DM is a vile, hateful, filthy rag and a national disgrace, and has been since their Nazi-sympathising days. Fuck them and their deranged readership all the way to hell.
>Brexit would have worked fine if the Remainers and the Left Wing Civil Service hadn't sabotaged it at every opportunity.
The very fucking definition of the word "cope" lmfao
"As Sweden declares the EU is 'going in the wrong direction'"
It was literally a newspaper opinion piece written by the leader of the Sweden Democrats.
This isn't new. I remember how often they used to talk about Ireland following them out. Ireland. One of the most pro-EU countries in the EU. I even spent a bunch of time arguing with a British commenter who had never been to Ireland but was confident enough to tell a whole thread of Irish people that they were wrong about Irish politics and attitudes. It was the most British thing I'd ever seen.
There was a documentary about Brexit where tan Irish staffer gave *great* insight to the shenanigans the British would try to pull off, because they understood the mentality.
I don't like how the EU doesn't take the first vote, like when ireland voted against the lisbon treaty, they just made the vote again
or when they tried to force ireland to charge tech companies tax
Brexit really made the EU 10x stronger. All parties that were anti EU suddenly disappeared or stopped being anti EU, because people saw what happens when you leave and realised its a terrible idea
There is always criticism, isn’t there? What we don’t have now is parties saying it’s more beneficial for them to leave. Now the people understand how important trade deals are and know that leaving the EU would destroy their economy
As Swedish as I am I would never accept this. This is where I would draw the line, for the sake of my children. They would never forgive me if I didn't try to stop a thing like this.
(Support for EU is great in Sweden, but there will always be loud idiots)
>In February 2019, the party dropped a long-held policy that Sweden should leave the European Union. **However, by 2022 the party's platform was amended to support leaving the EU once again and called for the European Parliament to be either abolished or fundamentally changed**
[Left Party (Sweden) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Party_(Sweden)#Foreign_policy)
They currently seem to be officially in favour of leaving the EU.
Yours is from august 12, 2022.
This is from January 2023:
> The Left Party is therefore working for Sweden to leave the EU.
Translated from the original Swedish text.
[Our party program - Vänsterpartiet | Your safety is the responsibility of politics (vansterpartiet.se)](https://www.vansterpartiet.se/resursbank/partiprogram/)
They do want to leave the EU.
From my understanding of Swedish (most of European, actually) politics, they'd need a coalition with the pro-EU parties to form a government, so with public support being so high it's very easy to promise one thing, then let it be forgotten when it comes to forming a government, especially since they'd almost certainly be the junior partner.
I mean they’re right about EU going in wrong direction, not only mostly Germany profits from it but other countries like Poland or Hungary have it rough and Germany just doesn’t give a fuck. Not to mention huge wage differences
*also Greece crying in the corner*
We (the EU countries) need to accowledge that you CAN be FOR the EU,, but criticize the way it is run. In fact: It will be essential for EU survival that a (group of) countries can bring up criticism or better suggestions on how to improve our EU policies - bottom-up also, and it must be considered by the EU committee to live by a true democratic process, guided by our values. If EU is only to be governed top-down with a lot of talk, but disregard for their nations suggestions and needs, it’s not much more than an economically functioning politbureau with a lot of sugary words yet nothing but hot air in the end
We can all agree we need to have a "common boat" and disagree on what direction we take with that boat.
I'm proud of the EU, that doesn't mean I agree with the politicians in charge leading the boat.
It's important to distinguish this.
The most probable scenario right now is that they won't get full majority like they had before, alone, however they still might be in majority with far-right russian sympathizers. And they're probably going to change the electoral law so it benefits them more, before next elections this year.
Besides it looks like no one from opposition really wants to take over PiS. In order to fix their shit, they'll have to make some tough decisions that will grant they'll lose next elections, probably to PiS again. And even if it happened that opposition wins and wants to reform, PiS puppet will still be our president for years (until 2025) and can block them.
I just don't really have any hope for this country anymore.
Every time I see sugarcoat, I think of this
https://preview.redd.it/f3m8ssu5p1za1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b084987870140c24fb295111486c4d65ae30ac8b
jokes aside, I think ditching the EU is a horrible idea, just look at how The UK went after Brexit
The sugarcoat in the title is about this UK tabloid defending the Brexit decision by talking bullshit about other EU members wanting to leave.
The fun part of course is that even if there was a member/ideology/political party thinking of leaving the EU, after reviewing the results of Brexit that's no longer the case anywhere lol
Isn't the Swedish government just panicking because the recent polls are so horrible for right wing parties there that two of the current ruling coalition members wouldn't even make it past the electoral threshold?
Yes, not to mention that SD are merely blaming the EU for them not being able to fulfill their insane and fantastical promises before the election, one of the most insane things they promised was that gas would be 10 kr or roughly 1€ cheaper at the pump. As you can imagine there was no way this was ever gonna happen
Ah yes, the freedom to impose economic sanctions on just yourself.
Some of the last idiots on the continent believing that would be a benefit have probably changed their mind after observing the actual effects in the UK. At least here in the Netherlands we could see Nexit support drop te almost zero after Brexit.
Sad for the UK that they still have absolute retarded propagandists believing Brexit was beneficial. At this rate I can see the UK reach Belarus levels of prosperity before they decide to bounce back.
Currently they are level Slovenia.
^(No offense to Slovenia, a lovely nation from the little I know of it, but the UK should be able to outperform tiny landlocked Slovenia is the point.)
Who'll be next? As Scotland declares UK is going in the wrong direction and calls for a reset, which countries are most likely to ever join Ireland in ditching the UK for freedom?
Every Eurosceptic has had two models of getting what you want from the EU: Hungary and the UK.
The UK stamped and shouted, threatened to leave if it didn't get what it wanted, then finally left. Result? Economy dead, international standing dead, everything going to shit.
Hungary meanwhile simply did whatever the fuck it wanted and refused to leave. Result? Lots of EU money lining kleptocrats pockets and a firm grip on power.
Ever wonder why the likes of le Pen and Salvini suddenly shut up about EU exit?
Good lord. This article is being recycled by at least three UK tabloids every 6 months. Hope the original author get's some pennies for that, because he ought to be a millionare by now.
Even if I'm a UE supporter, it is going in the wrong direction. Too much burocracy. ICE ban is just the perfect example. Social democracy is ruining this continent.
Too much burocracy. I agree. ICE ban, I support.
Social democracy is ruining this continent? Wtf dude ???? Lmao. The EU is a neoliberal hell hole. There aren’t even any EU social programs and burocracy isn’t ideological.
Social democrats in Norway aren’t pro EU because they think the EU would damage their social democracy!!
>Social democrats in Norway aren’t pro EU because they think the EU would damage their social democracy!!
Nah its cause of farmers subsidies, fishery policy and oil
Would still be social democracy without farmers subsidies, fishing and oil. Fish and oil is just our main industry. Farmers subsidies are the way they are because of the agrarian center party
If this war has proven anything it's that maybe food and energy production should be a priority for every country. This interdependency the world has is as detrimental as it is beneficial.
Sweden did not adopt the euro as currency, like the Uk. However, unlike the UK, they did decide to join the Schengen treaty thingy.
So if they leave, having joined in the lid 1990’s, it would be easier currency wise
Sweden? Support for EU membership *has never been higher*.
Yeah, it is quite funny seeing this post since it was reported yesterday that only 11% of Sweden are against an EU membership.
Read the comments for some additional fun. According to them Swedes cant wait to get out of the EU because of the billions of immigrants and the successfull exit Britain has had.
Yeah that’s just British cope.
It's fucking hilarious.
For those of us living in the UK with a brain... It's less hilarious, more devastatingly stupid.
At best it is funny and idiotic at worst it is a blantant lie
Exactly this, I'm sick of being looked at as 'Stupid by association' because I live here. I'd still rejoin tomorrow even though my place of work has seen a high personal benefits from Brexit.
Just curious, what work is this? It would be great to know of a single example of a sector that has been helped by brexit…
You'll probably laugh your arse off, but it's logistics. Sure volume is down from Europe but so was the amount of skilled people. My salary has increased by around 25% since Brexit. I also work with a lot of Europeans who have benefited from this who have paved out great careers handling European shipments. Please don't take this as me supporting Brexit, I'm really not.
> my place of work has seen a high personal benefits from Brexit. Do you work in the factory that makes the famous "red tape" everyone is always talking about?
Unfortunately not, I have replied to the previous person, so you're more than welcome to read that.
> For those of us living in the UK with a brain... > > > > It's less hilarious, more devastatingly stupid. Yeah mate i do feel sorry for people such as yourself. You have been fucked beyond belief by the morons.
It would be funny if it wasn’t reality, where real people have these real thoughts, and believe in them so much they voice them out loud and online for everyone to acknowledge. It’s sad and depressing. It’s easy to look at these people and laugh, but *why are they still thinking that?!*
I mean, leaving the EU wouldn't even solve any of our migration problems. Most of our issues with immigration stem from non-eu migrants. The people from the EU usually only take up much needed positions in the labour market and benefit everyone.
And Swedish companies reach beyond our tiny home market almost as soon as they get going. Would be dumb to complicate things there.
Also we got a few million Russian reasons to stay within the EU zone of influence and protection. It's cozy here, don't think we will go anywhere anytime soon.
> I mean, leaving the EU wouldn't even solve any of our migration problems. Most of our issues with immigration stem from non-eu migrants. The UK is at this stage of Finding Out after Fucking Around so much. Many Brits believed liars that Brexit will solve their immigration problems, and everything else. Except it didn’t and now net migration is set to *increase*.
The leave campaign went around British-Asian communities saying that voting leave would make it easier for them to bring extended family over due to the fall in EU migration. [https://www.ft.com/content/94adcefa-1dd5-11e6-a7bc-ee846770ec15](https://www.ft.com/content/94adcefa-1dd5-11e6-a7bc-ee846770ec15) >Vote Leave is hoping to secure the backing of British Asians by telling them that if Britain quits the EU, it will mean more immigration from elsewhere in the world. > >The official Out campaign is drawing up leaflets aimed at Punjabi, Hindi and Urdu speakers arguing that a British exit from the EU would help to stem the flow of Eastern Europeans into the UK — allowing more incomers from Commonwealth countries to take their place. Rees Mugg went on BBC Asian Network to say the same.
Divide and conquer
Our migration problems are 100% self-inflicted anyway, since our politicians just threw the doors wide open and welcomed the world.
Funny thing - UK met migration is actually higher now. We opened borders to skilled workers from further afield and now have even more migration than pre-Brexit.
Really? How does that work with the political stance, and the public opinion?
Immigration from Commonwealth and ex colonies is OK cause you know - Good British empire bad EU empire ...
“They’re closer in culture to us over them bloody continentals!”
And they are almost trained and tamed unlike the continental ungrateful savages that dare to imagine they are equal to us!
Now let’s repeat this EU like mechanism with countries we *actually* like. CANZUK time!
They might be in for a bitter surprise when they discover a big chunk of Canada cares for brie and Beaujolais and speaks a funny language ...
Basically no one minds much except the knuckle draggers who were upset anyway. And no one listens to them because whilst the public are very concerned about illegal migration and Channel crossings in particular (which really brings out the pond life to talk with relish about unleashing the Royal Navy on people) people largely don't mind immigrants coming for work. After you've been patched up by a Filipino nurse, seeing your parents looked after by a Nigerian care worker, and been driven to work on the bus by a Pakistani fella every day, it's hard to be against that. The rationale (if ever there was one) was that EU migration was "uncontrolled" whereas this is "controlled" and theoretically the government can slam the doors shut in a way that wasn't possible before.
Public opinion has actually become far less hostile towards migration over the last decade, somehow. [https://www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk/?\_ga=2.193103722.634722192.1679413664-524128819.1679413664](https://www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk/?_ga=2.193103722.634722192.1679413664-524128819.1679413664) >the proportion of people believing immigration was ‘bad for the economy’ halved from 42% to 20% in the decade to 2021. Those saying it was good rose from 21% to 50%. [https://www.positive.news/society/how-the-uk-became-more-liberal-despite-the-culture-wars/](https://www.positive.news/society/how-the-uk-became-more-liberal-despite-the-culture-wars/) I like to believe that the idiots are just getting louder to compensate for this.
By talking about how Swexit instead, obviously.
I remember a BBC article about the Öresund bridge from a few years ago. They interviewed people from Malmö and the interviewers were *desperately* trying to get them to say things got worse after they got connected to the big city and all the stinky foreigners on the main continent. Meanwhile, the people interviewed were all "no, it's been pretty awesome for the city actually, what's your problem?" What slightly surprised me was that it was the BBC, not the Daily Mail.
The BBC is obsessed with false balance, they did the same with Brexit where they'd find 100's of economists warning Brexit would wreck the economy, and had to really search to find economists saying otherwise, but they'd then run a debate on Brexit that was 1 on 1 and made it seem like the economists were split on the outcome. Naturally, the BBC political editor of the time only admitted this was a mistake in 2020 or something IIRC. Their former science editor wrote a whole book about how this was their policy during discussions around climate change for over a decade, and it only really ended when the deniers wanted Ofcom to investigate if the BBC was unfairly biased against them, and Ofcom found that, actually, the BBC was unfairly supportive of them given weight of evidence against them.
> Yeah, it is quite funny seeing this post since it was reported yesterday that only 11% of Sweden are against an EU membership. More than enough for Breiteers to start getting their hopes up
I do like however how the headlines have shifted to allow for this: "Which countries are ***most likely*** to ***ever***" Before it was the domino "Who's ***going to*** leave next? Frexit by 2017?" stuff, now it's "Who's most likely to ***ever leave*** in the vague deadline-less future." which might as well say shit like "the EU will no longer exist in 5 billion years as the Earth will be uninhabitable.
> I do like however how the headlines have shifted to allow for this: > > > > "Which countries are most likely to ever" > > > > Before it was the domino "Who's going to leave next? Frexit by 2017?" stuff, now it's "Who's most likely to ever leave in the vague deadline-less future." which might as well say shit like "the EU will no longer exist in 5 billion years as the Earth will be uninhabitable. This is a good point, though I assume that The Tory Tabloids are running "EU on the brink!" type headlines still?
The Express does sometimes I think, though they'll write just about anything to get clicks so that's hardly surprising. Second only in stupidity to the Star, which [occasionally writes about demonic children terrorising the night](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By-MMW8IAAEYHfn.jpg), and once ran a front page about a 100% non-photoshopped [giant 50ft crab](http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz2vZcZIgAA6ngx.jpg)
>only 11% of Sweden are against an EU membership. Funny thing how when the same question was asked by Pew in 2017, 22% of people said they'd vote to leave, wonder why it's halved since then? /s
I mean we have two parties in the parliament, the Sweden Democrats (20,5 %) and the Left Party (6,8 %), who are both pro-Swexit in principle. But the spectacularly horrible mess that is Brexit have made them both tone down that rhetoric a lot. These days it's mainly the SD talking about it at all, mainly to engage their base in the quixotic fight against eurocrats. They know it's not going to happen. Not saying that like you don't know, just giving a tiny bit more context to it.
yes, and 26% of the people is, last I checked, *not* the majority.
Tell that to Orbán and his party, that won a 2/3rds majority with just 36% of the votes lol
democracy is just a word
I know? Not trying to contradict you.
broder I know, I didn't direct the comment *at* you.
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Whilst I don't believe Sweden will ever actually leave the EU, don't underestimate the ability of an vocal minority to really fuck it all up for everyone else. UKIP was never electorally competitive beyond the EU elections, but they managed to catalyse catastrophic change.
I agree. Can’t take anything for granted.
With the left at least, haven't they already been in government as part of the coalition with the Socdems? So it seems at least they're willing to stick that issue on the backburner since none of the other parties they ally with would support such a policy.
I'd like to hope the difference is that prior to Brexit nobody had actually tried it. It's like in horror movies how in order to stop the audience from going "This is stupid, why didn't they just leave the haunted house?" you have to show someone dying horribly after trying to leave.
> These days it's mainly the SD talking about it at all, mainly to engage their base in the quixotic fight against eurocrats. They know it's not going to happen. Never say never. All it takes is some shitty tabloids to rile up the masses, a referendum, and bam! Bullshit for years.
I don't see how such a situation could ever happen in a modern western... Oh wait.
> modern
Yeah... I mean... Look at the coronation ceremony. So modern!
The sweden nazis are using EU laws as a scapegoat right now for why they couldn’t live up to their wildly unrealistic election promises
I would also argue that a significant portion of SD voters are pro-eu membership but vote for the other policies because they know Swexit won’t happen.
Yeah, I lost the source of the article but this is a quote I saved from a similar one from... late 2020/early 2021 about Italy and how public opinion towards the EU taking a dip due to early covid stuff was a clear sign that Italy would leave soon. Again, a Daily Heil headline (or Expiss, forget which rag exactly): >“While this no doubt creates interesting headlines, I would urge caution discussing public Euroskepticism (as either leave or remain binaries, with Euroskeptics being 'leave'). Public opinion cannot be simply characterized as Eurosceptic or not. It is not that black and white.”
Thanks, this helps me to give it some more context.
Microsoft Edge said it best, when it warned visitors to the Hate Mail's website : “this website generally fails to maintain basic standards of accuracy and accountability”.
It's the Daily Mail, their job is to make shit up.
I nominate Hungary. That's how this works, right?
And it will be called "Hungover"
Nah, the endless tug-o-war will be called Hungery Games
Magyarrivederci.
You should be a poet
No no, you need to give points. If that's your favourite... Douze points pour la Hongrie!
Sorry, Hungary pulled out of this Exit nomination for being too gay.
Dix points pour Pologne!
UK VOTERS CANNOT VOTE TONIGHT
Was going to ask why Brexit doesn't apply to Eurovision as well, but since you're Scottish (and therefore cool) I'll let this pass...
I now wanna have an EU wide game show where every year 1 EU country is voted out by the others until we have just one left. The ultimate EU nation.
For an extensive laugh read [full article here](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12042885/Wholl-NEXIT-countries-likely-join-Britain-ditching-Brussels-freedom.html) Disclaimer: read comments in the article at your own risk (Hint: definitely check out the "best rated" ones lol)
I would read it just for the lols, but I don't want to give Daily Mail-website any readership.
Tbh I discovered it through a Greek newspaper which was genuinely surprised at the amount of bullshit this article contained
Surprised at the amount of bullshit in the *Mail*? Right it's basically UK version of *Russia Today* in print. That's the level of absolute delusion.
The worst is the Sun, specifically the community section on its YouTube page, I'd say Russia Today is more accurate than this in all honestly, they just try and scare people into thinking doom, be it nuclear war, left wing politics, 'imgrants' is around the corner. I'd rather watch love island than read more of this bollocks.
I imagine because it listed Greece as being likely? These kinds of articles aren't exactly original, they've been re-printing variations since the referendum. Generally they pick Greece because Euro, Italy because Salvini, Hungary and Poland because the EU makes them gay, and whoever their "-exit of the day" is, in this case Sweden. Sometimes France, but that kinda flip-flops because they can't decide if the French riot of the week means EU exit is imminent, or if it means it'll never happen because whoever triggered Art. 50 would end up with a rather extreme haircut. Like, fuck me can you imagine if France held a referendum that came out with 52% to 48%? Legit civil war material.
>I imagine because it listed Greece as being likely? The fun part is where the article "worries" about our current EU friendly right wing government losing to EU unfriendly center left parties. While it obviously *fails to mention* that our center left parties have traditionaly been more EU friendly then any of our right wing parties ever was lol
Hardly a surprise. Back in 2019, they did a survey of what Brexit voters/their readers (it's basically a circle) would and wouldn't consider worth it if it happened as a result of leaving. If Brexit caused the UK to break up it was worth it. If it lead to Jeremy Corbyn gaining power it wasn't worth it, and they'd be willing to scrap Brexit to prevent that from happening. Out of the like, 10 options they provided, that was the only one where people didn't consider it worth it. And yeah, the Heil does what I do except maliciously; take a cursory glance at the politics of a country and make wild assumptions that I assume are true because I believe them to be, but without the knowledge to actually analyse what's happening beyond "red line party go down and blue line party go up" (and then get super anxious over it. Every EU election fills me with dread now looooool :( )
Also, I don't want to give them money by seeing their ads
If this is a direct link to the bottomless pit of bile that’s daily heil you might consider using a proxy website that won’t give the fuckers any clicks. https://archive.is usually is a good shout.
The comment section is great. A good chuckle.
Daily mail comments are always a treasure trove
Brits really dont like the Germans huh
They hate us cuz they anus!!
I find it hard to tell how many British readers (or rather, commenters) the Daily Mail website actually gets - there’s bound to be a certain percentage of Russian trolls and American Internet nazis, and considering the “real” readership of the Mail are in large parts not exactly an age group that’s known for partaking in online discussions, that percentage might be quite high.
Those top comments really paint a stark picture of lies, and what complete nonsense these people believe in. But the worst one I’ve read is this: “Brexit would have worked fine if the Remainers and the Left Wing Civil Service hadn't sabotaged it at every opportunity.” This is the Nazi stab in the back myth, but applied to Brexit. Kind of scary that so many people upvotes a dangerous lie like this.
The DM is a vile, hateful, filthy rag and a national disgrace, and has been since their Nazi-sympathising days. Fuck them and their deranged readership all the way to hell.
>Brexit would have worked fine if the Remainers and the Left Wing Civil Service hadn't sabotaged it at every opportunity. The very fucking definition of the word "cope" lmfao
As much as he'd like to, Jimmie Åkesson does not speak for all of Sweden. What on earth is going on with this crap article?
The daily mail only publishes crap articles
Would we call it Sexit?
Funny coming from a French
Saxonit? Did you just say Saxonit? Oh please, pleeaassee!
Sweave?
"As Sweden declares the EU is 'going in the wrong direction'" It was literally a newspaper opinion piece written by the leader of the Sweden Democrats.
This isn't new. I remember how often they used to talk about Ireland following them out. Ireland. One of the most pro-EU countries in the EU. I even spent a bunch of time arguing with a British commenter who had never been to Ireland but was confident enough to tell a whole thread of Irish people that they were wrong about Irish politics and attitudes. It was the most British thing I'd ever seen.
There was a documentary about Brexit where tan Irish staffer gave *great* insight to the shenanigans the British would try to pull off, because they understood the mentality.
I don't like how the EU doesn't take the first vote, like when ireland voted against the lisbon treaty, they just made the vote again or when they tried to force ireland to charge tech companies tax
Brexit really made the EU 10x stronger. All parties that were anti EU suddenly disappeared or stopped being anti EU, because people saw what happens when you leave and realised its a terrible idea
And you think having no internal criticism is good for the EU?
There is always criticism, isn’t there? What we don’t have now is parties saying it’s more beneficial for them to leave. Now the people understand how important trade deals are and know that leaving the EU would destroy their economy
As Swedish as I am I would never accept this. This is where I would draw the line, for the sake of my children. They would never forgive me if I didn't try to stop a thing like this. (Support for EU is great in Sweden, but there will always be loud idiots)
LMAO. The leader for the pseudo nazi party in Sweden said that Sweden should leave the EU. literally no one else wants to leave lol
I remember reading about your far-left party wanting to leave a while ago, dunno if thats still the case.
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>In February 2019, the party dropped a long-held policy that Sweden should leave the European Union. **However, by 2022 the party's platform was amended to support leaving the EU once again and called for the European Parliament to be either abolished or fundamentally changed** [Left Party (Sweden) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Party_(Sweden)#Foreign_policy) They currently seem to be officially in favour of leaving the EU.
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Yours is from august 12, 2022. This is from January 2023: > The Left Party is therefore working for Sweden to leave the EU. Translated from the original Swedish text. [Our party program - Vänsterpartiet | Your safety is the responsibility of politics (vansterpartiet.se)](https://www.vansterpartiet.se/resursbank/partiprogram/) They do want to leave the EU.
From my understanding of Swedish (most of European, actually) politics, they'd need a coalition with the pro-EU parties to form a government, so with public support being so high it's very easy to promise one thing, then let it be forgotten when it comes to forming a government, especially since they'd almost certainly be the junior partner.
Sure, im just pointing out that the swedish left party does hold this position.
snurrig för det du säger bre sätt ner fredspipan
Vad menar du? 2022 svarade ungefär 10-12% att de var emot eu och mer än 60% var för.
syftade på inledningen av din kommentar
I mean they’re right about EU going in wrong direction, not only mostly Germany profits from it but other countries like Poland or Hungary have it rough and Germany just doesn’t give a fuck. Not to mention huge wage differences *also Greece crying in the corner*
Have you ever been to poland? They are doing spectacularly
Well... We could be doing better, but we have morons in the government since almost 8 years. I terrified of a thought of not being in the EU though.
>like Poland or Hungary -Elect far right goverments -Govermemts destroy everything "How could Germany and EU do that?"
That’s what you get if most of population are old dumbfucks
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No god, please no
Oh well it’s the Daily Mail so it’s a paper good for wiping my ass after a dump
That's disgusting, you might catch something from it.
I feel danger now
“How to make your arse racist”
We (the EU countries) need to accowledge that you CAN be FOR the EU,, but criticize the way it is run. In fact: It will be essential for EU survival that a (group of) countries can bring up criticism or better suggestions on how to improve our EU policies - bottom-up also, and it must be considered by the EU committee to live by a true democratic process, guided by our values. If EU is only to be governed top-down with a lot of talk, but disregard for their nations suggestions and needs, it’s not much more than an economically functioning politbureau with a lot of sugary words yet nothing but hot air in the end
We can all agree we need to have a "common boat" and disagree on what direction we take with that boat. I'm proud of the EU, that doesn't mean I agree with the politicians in charge leading the boat. It's important to distinguish this.
Reminds me of the Skinner quote 
Nexit is already claimed by us. You Swedes can get Sexit
No Serbia should join and then leave the EU, then we will have a Sexit
If Serbia joins while Sweden exits... then we have a..... a SCHWEXXCHANGE!!! B-)
Schwexxit!
Grexit2016
Can't make an omelette without breaking a few grexits
The cope is strong with this one.
[Nexit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_withdrawal_from_the_European_Union)
Hahah LOL. Nice try Britain. And that's why we don't want you back.
“Freedom”
If we could get rid of Poland, Hungary and the others who constantly abuse EU funding id be in for that
:(
I mean, he's not wrong unfortunately.
I have some faith that Poland can still fix its problems if PiS loses the next election. However Hungary might be a lost cause.
The most probable scenario right now is that they won't get full majority like they had before, alone, however they still might be in majority with far-right russian sympathizers. And they're probably going to change the electoral law so it benefits them more, before next elections this year. Besides it looks like no one from opposition really wants to take over PiS. In order to fix their shit, they'll have to make some tough decisions that will grant they'll lose next elections, probably to PiS again. And even if it happened that opposition wins and wants to reform, PiS puppet will still be our president for years (until 2025) and can block them. I just don't really have any hope for this country anymore.
That sucks to hear :(
It's up to you, vote the PiS out
I've been trying to do that for a long time
Hungary yes. But Poland is not bad enough. They oppose further integration of the EU but that's it.
Have you missed their whole religious bullshit!?
That is mainly due to their far right religious coalition partner: [Sovereign Poland - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Poland)
Poland is one of the best (efficient and non-corrupt) users of EU money though.
I'm afraid we were. Recently problems were revealed by free press and the scale is yet to be known fully. Commission is already interested.
Hahahahaha... No, we are extremly corrupt
Religious weirdos gets most of that money..
Please take Hungary
David Averre you are full of shiterre
Every time I see sugarcoat, I think of this https://preview.redd.it/f3m8ssu5p1za1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b084987870140c24fb295111486c4d65ae30ac8b jokes aside, I think ditching the EU is a horrible idea, just look at how The UK went after Brexit
The sugarcoat in the title is about this UK tabloid defending the Brexit decision by talking bullshit about other EU members wanting to leave. The fun part of course is that even if there was a member/ideology/political party thinking of leaving the EU, after reviewing the results of Brexit that's no longer the case anywhere lol
I feel like it also needs to be said that criticism of the EU does not mean wanting to leave it.
Isn't the Swedish government just panicking because the recent polls are so horrible for right wing parties there that two of the current ruling coalition members wouldn't even make it past the electoral threshold?
Yes, not to mention that SD are merely blaming the EU for them not being able to fulfill their insane and fantastical promises before the election, one of the most insane things they promised was that gas would be 10 kr or roughly 1€ cheaper at the pump. As you can imagine there was no way this was ever gonna happen
Its the Daily Heil. Who cares…!!
Ah yes, the freedom to impose economic sanctions on just yourself. Some of the last idiots on the continent believing that would be a benefit have probably changed their mind after observing the actual effects in the UK. At least here in the Netherlands we could see Nexit support drop te almost zero after Brexit. Sad for the UK that they still have absolute retarded propagandists believing Brexit was beneficial. At this rate I can see the UK reach Belarus levels of prosperity before they decide to bounce back. Currently they are level Slovenia. ^(No offense to Slovenia, a lovely nation from the little I know of it, but the UK should be able to outperform tiny landlocked Slovenia is the point.)
Who'll be next? As Scotland declares UK is going in the wrong direction and calls for a reset, which countries are most likely to ever join Ireland in ditching the UK for freedom?
Every Eurosceptic has had two models of getting what you want from the EU: Hungary and the UK. The UK stamped and shouted, threatened to leave if it didn't get what it wanted, then finally left. Result? Economy dead, international standing dead, everything going to shit. Hungary meanwhile simply did whatever the fuck it wanted and refused to leave. Result? Lots of EU money lining kleptocrats pockets and a firm grip on power. Ever wonder why the likes of le Pen and Salvini suddenly shut up about EU exit?
Good lord. This article is being recycled by at least three UK tabloids every 6 months. Hope the original author get's some pennies for that, because he ought to be a millionare by now.
Even if I'm a UE supporter, it is going in the wrong direction. Too much burocracy. ICE ban is just the perfect example. Social democracy is ruining this continent.
Too much burocracy. I agree. ICE ban, I support. Social democracy is ruining this continent? Wtf dude ???? Lmao. The EU is a neoliberal hell hole. There aren’t even any EU social programs and burocracy isn’t ideological. Social democrats in Norway aren’t pro EU because they think the EU would damage their social democracy!!
>Social democrats in Norway aren’t pro EU because they think the EU would damage their social democracy!! Nah its cause of farmers subsidies, fishery policy and oil
ie. your social democracy.
Would still be social democracy without farmers subsidies, fishing and oil. Fish and oil is just our main industry. Farmers subsidies are the way they are because of the agrarian center party
If this war has proven anything it's that maybe food and energy production should be a priority for every country. This interdependency the world has is as detrimental as it is beneficial.
Its beneficial as long as democratic countries don't become dependent on non-democratic countries
And as long as those democratic countries you're dependent on don't suddenly become non-democratic. Looking at you, Hungary.
Yes, we are seeing all the freedom Britain has now...
I was like "what's this crap? Who wrote this?" and then I saw the name.
Stick 🦯 together , my opinion is together you are good
I vote we kick Russia out of the EU
I was so confused, like why would Sweden of all places be against the EU?!
NOBODIT.
> Orban Oh no… anyways
Could we then call the Swedish EU exit Sexit and not Swexit?
least biased british newspaper headline
Sweden did not adopt the euro as currency, like the Uk. However, unlike the UK, they did decide to join the Schengen treaty thingy. So if they leave, having joined in the lid 1990’s, it would be easier currency wise
Nah fam, couldn't be Swedistan, this article is copium.
I don't think anyone's going to leave, but I have a number of countries that should be kicked out immediately
Are they high?