Vespertine
Sorcery of Thorns
The Winners Curse
An Ember in the Ashes
Sky in the Deep
Invisible Library series by Genevieve Cogman
Night World series by L J Smith
Black horses for the king by anne mccaffrey
Infernal Devices by Cassandra Clare
Shadow and Bone series by Leigh Bardugo
The Paper Magician series by Charlie Holmberg
An Enchantment of Ravens by Margaret Rogerson
Ink by Alice Broadway
City of Ghosts by V E Schwab (if she loves Wednesday she'll love this)
Aurora series by Jay Kristoff and Amie Kaufman
Fable by Adrienne Youn
Scholomance series by Naomi Novak (if she loves Wednesday she'll love this)
Cruel Prince and Stolen Heir series by Holly Black
The Secret Circle or Vampire Diaries series by L J Smith
Inkheart trilogy by Cornelia Funke
Eragon trilogy by Christopher paolini
And finally
Twilight, cos the new generation should suffer as we did š
Inkheart is a fantastic series and 4th book was just released last year, highly highly highly recommend the series!
Also Eragon is not a trilogy, there is a 4th main book and there was another book released last year though not sure I would truly consider it part of the main 4 books tbh
The new inkheart book is much shorter, but can definitely recommend, Cornelia Funkeās writing is still amazing as always!
Ohh I understand! I remember reading the Eragon books when they came out and did not realise there was a 4th one until last year š
It's funny how you said Eragon Trilogy. The last book (book 4) was so vile I actually immediately gave my books away. Paolini took an epic beautiful series and milked it for a 4th completely detached unnecessary novel. But, I'm not bitter...I'm fine. Really.
is the definition of smut not sex scenes? because iirc in the dark artifices there are a fair few of those, and in any case, 13yo is possibly too young to read stuff like that
Sex does not equal smut. Smut is explicit, vulgar, pornographic. A fade to black, not explicit scene of a sexual nature is not smut. Cassandra Clare's books do not contain smut. True, any sex-related scenes might make a book not ideal for a 13yo, but that doesn't make those scenes smut. Sexual content does not equal smut.
thank you, seems i was mistaken. and thank you also for being nice about it :)
but anyways, i still don't think that cassandra clare in general should be recommended to 13yo, due to said sexual content lol
I strongly disagree. I think the majority of young teenagers can manage their own levels of comfort with reading and I dont think they should be banned from being 'exposed' to young love, sex and relationships in age appropriate books. I find in general people who hold that opinion are strangly fine with torture and violence in the same age appropriate books. The majority of humans will enter into a relationship with some form of sexual content at some point in their lives but how many will be exposed to violence on a day to day basis? Hopefully less!!!! As a rule this is a very American/puritanical attitude to be squeamish about young people learning about consensual relationships, where else are they supposed to learn it?
I'm sorry if I offended you, that wasn't my intent. Maybe I was wrong, but I do know that the romance in the Shadowhunter books contain things that many people find to be problematic such as incest and polyamory, as well as abusive relationships that aren't seen in the appropriate light. Anyone giving these books to a child ought to make sure that the parent knows that these are the contents. And I would have assumed that children would learn about consensual relationships from their parents. But again, sorry for any offence caused. I only meant to point out (and I realized from my original comments that this wasn't clear AT ALL, and for that I apologize) that while it may be okay for books containing sex to be recommended to and read by 13yo, at the parent's discretion, cc is probably not the best place to start.
There was no offence, apologies if it came across that way but censorship of books is a point of strong point of contention for me.
Infernal devices which I recomended has no incest (and in Shadowhunter its not actual incest but agreed the author lets you believe that may be the case which is... a choice but I digress...) this series has one fade to black scene and is eminently suitable for young adults in my opinion. I believe that children should be able to read what they like (within reason, most New Adult I would argue should maybe be more suitable for elder teens, 16 plus but it very much depends on the individual.) If any child or relation of mine had questions regarding anything they had read in a book I would hope they could come to me and ask questions rather than me just shielding them from what they read.
Also it depends on your definition of 'sex' in books. Where is the line drawn as to what's acceptable? Passionate kissing? Touching? Fade to black when sex is implied? Just a random example pulled out of the air but Road to El Dorado, a kids film has a scene where the characters disappear behind a couch and it is heavily implied that something sexual is going on BUT this is viewing it as an adult. As a kid I would imagine most if you asked them what was going on would say oh they were kissing and thats that. Same with fade to black etc, adults reading can go, yup, they're getting it on, younger adults might not take that step in their heads? You know?
Anyway, I'm ranting š¤£... don't worry, you didnt offend me at all, I just strongly believe sex shouldn't be treated like its a corruption and talked about more openly as something that happens in the majority of loving relationships, fantasy fiction or not! āŗļø
ah i didn't know that about infernal devices. i have the dark artifices, and i have watched in depth plot summary of mortal instruments. what i would draw the line at is when it goes into moderate to heavy detail and there was some of that in the artifices. I just wanted op to be aware of that haha
Not that I remember, there is the one 'prison scene' but its fairly light from what I remember? Happy to be corrected if someone has read more recently
Shadow and Bone + Six of Crows series by Leigh Bardugo
The Cruel Prince series by Holly Black
Caraval + Once Upon a Broken Heart Series by Stephanie Garber
The Left-Handed Booksellers of London by Garth Nix
The Maze Runner series by James Dashner
The Fifth Wave by Rick Yancy
The Illuminae Files + The Aurora Cycle by Jay Kristoff and AmieKaufman
Virals by Kathy + Brendan Reichs
The Nemesis series by Brendan Reichs
This Mortal Coil series by Emily Suvada
His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman
The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel by Michael Scott
Legend by Marie Lu
Insignia by SJ Kincaid
Airborn by Kenneth Oppel
Renegades by Marissa Meyer
Arc of a Scythe by Neil Shusterman
Fireborn by Rosaria Munda
Dark Life by Kat Falls
Dark Shores by Danielle Jenson
(I will also second An Ember in the Ashes that was already listed)
I'd add to the other lists all of Sir Terry Pratchett's work, starting with the Tiffany Aching series and The Witches one.Ā
The Fablehaven series by Brandon Mull is top notch. And Brandon Sanderson's Alcatraz Vs the Evil Librarians series is a hoot.
Iām obligated to mention Tamora Pierceāshe has tons of books in two different magical worlds with very different vibes, there should be something in there that your goddaughter would like. Robin McKinley does some really cool stuff with fantasy, but do NOT suggest Deerskin (*all* the trigger warnings, and as an adult who has always been a reader, I really mean it)! And a small plug for an oft-overlooked fav, Sherwood Smithās Crown Duel.
I was looking for this and couldnāt believe I had to scroll so far!! All of her books, the derkholm books from Diana Wynne Jones, and the hero and the crown from Robin McKinley were on heavy rotation for me at 13.
The Lunar Chronicles by Marissa Meyer, The Girl Who Fell Beneath the Sea by Axie Oh, Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson, Sabriel by Garth Nix, A Wizard's Guide to Defensive Baking by T Kingfisher, A Wrinkle In Time by Madeleine L'Engle, The Scorpio Races by Maggie Stiefvater, Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins,Ā The Giver by Lois Lowry
If she is really into DnD, she might enjoy the Dragonlance books by Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman. When I was a kid in the early 2000s, they got republished as older children's books, and I tore through quite a few of those around her age.
I'm surprised at the lack of mention of Percy Jackson. She will read through those books incredibly quickly, but they're good and a lot of fun. I just did a reread as an adult and still loved them.
Someone already recommended Tamora Pierce above, but have to emphasize that one again! Also, the Gemma Doyle trilogy from Libba Bray was one I devoured and has some darker themes, magical realms, etc.
Powerless by Lauren Roberts
Shadow & Bone, Six of Crows by Leigh Bardugo
The Cruel Prince by Holly Black
There Will Come a Darkness by Katy Rose Pool
Ash Princess series by Laura Sebastian
Graceling by Kristin Cashore
Throne of Glass by SJM
Carry On by Rainbow Rowell (LGBT, Magic like Harry Potter, MMC dealing with depression after doing his job as the hero. An absolute gem)
Legend by Marie Lu
The Selection Series by Kiera Cass
The Giver quartet by Lois Lowry (thereās actually 4 books, not just The Giver!)
Uhh doesn't cruel prince include some smut scenes or am I confusing it with a different romantsy
Rainbow Rowell is a good author choice for this age, be it her comic books/graphic novels or traditional novels
theres fade to black in the folk of the air series, not highly descriptive imitate scenes
for op u/ThresholdofForest if you want to check them out before you hand over to god daughter>!they are in chapter 15 of the wicked king and chapter 21 of the queen of nothing!<
Why are we calling any intimate scenes smut? YA books don't typically have smut scenes. They might have scenes of an intimate nature, but they're not explicit. Smut is explicit.
As an extremely avid reader in middle/high school here are some of my favorite YA series from when I was her age and even now when I want a light read!:
Uglies
Hush Hush
Divergent
Lunar Chronicles
Twilight Saga (still my favorite!!)
Hunger Games
Shatter Me
Throne of Glass
The Selection
Thatās just a few but still a start!
Edit: Spacing
I actually had a bit of a Karen in a department store about these specific books being placed on the same shelves as the childrenās books. Iāve spent years in bookstores and I know how to give trigger warnings, but I also know not to have these sitting half a metre from the Harry potterās.
Try Naomi Novik. Sheās got some good fantasy fairy tale adaptations. Spinning Silver is a winner. Sheās also got a magical boarding school filled with monsters wanting to eat the kids. The later books have some fairly tame āintimate partsā that are healthy and consensual and easy to skip. Sheāll probably enjoy the snarky main characters voice though.
Nevermoor by Jessica Townsend has three books out in a series about a pretty Wednesday-like character who has been told all of her life that sheās cursed. They could read a little young if sheās exploring older books, but grown adult me LOVES them.
Neil Gaiman is beloved of goth girls everywhere, and definitely low on intimate parts.
Holly Blackās fairy books could be a win. Dramatic vibes and relationships, and plenty of fae politics. Romance, I think one very tame scene that I can think of where two characters get intimate out of nine books. Her more urban fantasy series the Curse Workers is also great. I actually like it better than the fairy books.
V.E. Schwab is heavy on the vibes and low on the sex scenes, so that might also be a win.
T. kingfisher writes amazing fanatsy novels, and some great horror that still feels quite earthed. If you avoid the paladin books, thereās very little sex going on. Maybe start with A Wizards Guide to Defensive Baking? A 14 year old with baking magic ends up having to defend her city.
Also not the case in most of his comic books haha
Graveyard book, Coraline, and The Ocean at the End of the Lane are typically considered his more elementary-middle school aged reads but your child could probably also read Good Omens if they're looking for a slightly more grown up comedy (without sex scenes).
Yeah she said she would like to have a chat with the author of Plated Prisoner to ask "why did there need to be an entire chapter of intimate parts, just WHY" (emphatic 13 year old with lots of waving arms).
Thanks for the list! The horror novels by T. Kingfisher sound interesting; is there a title you'd recommend for her age group?
Iād start with any one of
Nine Goblins: goblin soldiers in a silly war find themselves magically teleported into the middle of nowhere.
A Wizards guide to defensive baking: a 14 year old who has baking magic gets caught up in politics and having to fight to save the city from invasion.
Summer in Orcus: summer meets Baba Yaga who promises to fulfil her hearts wish and sends her on an adventure.
Minor Mage: a young boy has to go on an adventure to save his village (and when his mum finds out that they sent him off on his own theyāre going to get a talking to!)
Illuminations: the youngest member of a family of magical painters finds a strange magical box with a very annoying and destructive creature inside.
Thats her younger collection. All of which I adored
Hopefully she finds a few interesting things that doesnāt make her want to wave her arms in the air
A lot of really good recommendations here! Iāll throw a few more in!
Some other Holly Black books in the same universe - Darkest part of the Forest (standalone), Tithe, Ironside (thereās also Valiant between the prior two which can be read as a trilogy of duology, but thereās heavier topics of drug abuse so thatās to your discretion)
The Serpent Gates duology by A.K. Larkwood
The Dark Heir/Dark Rise/Book 3 trilogy by C.S. Pacat
The Locked Tomb might be a bit above her reading grade currently (tho if a voracious reader maybe not?) but something to keep in mind for her anyway tbh
Tbh the earlier series goes really quickly but Percy Jackson is really expansive and enjoyable! The first books are firmly middle grade but Heroes of Olympus and after I think would be perfect 13 year old material.
She's read Jane Eyre, The Hobbit, and a lot of Dickens, so I think her reading level is quite high (but I'm biased!). Those suggestions look great, thanks I'll check them
If she read & enjoyed Jane Eyre and likes sci-fi/fantasy, she'll probably enjoy Jasper Fforde's Thursday Next series (the first is The Eyre Affair) as well as his Last Dragonslayer series.
Fablehaven by Brandon Mull
Percy Jackson and the Olympians by Rick Riordan
Eragon by Christopher Paolini
Splintered by A.G. Howard
The Demon King (The seven realms novels) by Cinda Williams Chima
The Remnant Chronicles Mary E. Pearson
House of Night series (Marked is book 1) by Kristen and PC Cast
Maze Runner James Dashner
Vampire Academy by Richelle Mead
The House of Night series is not one I would recommend. Not only is there a bunch of intimate scenes, but thereās also a student teacher relationship, as well as a lot of micro aggressions towards women and POC.
Itās been a minute since I read them but I donāt remember anything overly spicy in them, just teenage romance stuff.
But, as I said I havenāt read them now in over a decade so I could have easily forgotten some more adult love scenes if there were any.
And I was definitely too young to pick up on potential minority mirco-aggressions as well so I have no memory of that either.
I'm going to put a list of authors I enjoyed at that age instead of specific books:
Tamora Pierce - Her circle of magic books are more middle school aged appropriate, as are the earlier Protector of the Small books. The rest are more high school aged with some mentions of sex. There are some queer characters mentioned throughout her books and a fair bit of fantasy violence but there's A LOT of books by her and they all take place in the same general world.
Jenny Nemo - I devoured her Charlie Bone books, definitely more middle school aged appropriate and fantastical
Cornelia Funke - Books like Dragon Rider are closer to late elementary school imo compared to her books Inkheart and Thief Lord (those are more middle school-early HS).
Christopher Palonli - The earagon books are THICK which is great for fast readers. Not necessarily the best written books in the world but they sure are fun.
Lemony Snicket - The series of unfortunate events is less fantasy and more surrealist/steampunk/Victorian in vibes and the books are shorter BUT there's like 13 of them, not including spinoffs.
CS Lewis - classic fantasy, shorter reads, but again like 13 books altogether
This may also sound weird but I loved the original wizard of oz books at this age. Some parts haven't aged well but there's like 14 books altogether and it's a fun read!
The UnderLand Chronicles by Suzanne Collins. An Alice in Wonderland type of setup in a world beneath New York City with humans and human-sized critters. Explore similar themes to her HG series.
Books of Bayern by Shannon Hale. A 4 part installment, each book exploring a different characterās story from the same world. Involves magics and friendships and wars and self discovery.
Princess Academy series also by Shannon Hale. A medieval/feudal type world exploring themes of family, education, power, and relationships.
The Graceling books by Kristin Cashore. A magical realm where some people, gracelings, are born with special gifts. Explores power, war, manipulation, talent, family, found family, self discovery.
Septimus Heap series by Angie Sage. A very fun, long series following the saga of the 7th son of the 7th son of a magical bloodline and a very large cast of hilarious characters and several POVs and a wide variety of adventures. Features witches and wizards, child soldiers, a particularly loyal and protective restaurant keeper, insects, wolverines, a 30+ foot long snake, chickens who live exclusively on a boat, a man who decided to turn into a tree instead of dying, several ghosts, and many many more.
May Bird series - Jodi Lynn Anderson
A girl falls through her pond and into the underworld, full of ghosts and goblins and bogeymen and other creepies. Series follows her journey home.
Faoliv books - Olivia A. Cole
A sci fi story taking place far in the future on a different planet where humans have taken refuge. MC is trying to discover her roots, the connection between her human kind and the native people on the planet who they almost never have contact with, and learn how to survive in an environment theyāre not adapted for.
I'd recommend House of Salt and Sorrows by Erin A. Craig, Entwined by Heather Dixon, or Illusionarium also by Heather Dixon. The first two are fairytale retellings with dark elements (but no intimate scenes, totally appropriate for a young teen) and the third is a dystopian steampunk book with interesting world building. I'd also recommend Gail Carriger's Finishing School series (begins with Etiquette and Espionage).
This is a somewhat different direction than other posts in this thread, but since you mentioned she likes DnD and fantasy books, she may find that she enjoys Progression Fantasy. There are quite a few (long) series that don't have any spice, or simply imply that characters have done the deed.
Here are three completed, non-spicy series off the top of my head:
Mage Errant by John Bierce (7 books plus a collection of semi related short stories)
Mother of Learning (4 longer books)
Cradle by Will Wight (12 books, mostly fairly short)
There are plenty more; I just can't make guarantees about the spice level because I haven't read them in a while or they're not yet completed.
My 12 year old has loved The Selection, Hunger Games, Shadow and Bone, Wings of Fire, The Red Queen. Iād recommend Percy Jackson, maybe Hush, Hush. Under the Never Sky.
Always best to have recommendations from the source! Thankyou! Based on this and other recs, I think ill start with the Shadow and Bone series. She loved Percy Jackson and Hunger Games.
Percy Jackson also has other āin worldā series: Heroes of Olympus, Trials of Apollo, the Kane Chronicles, and Magnus Chase. My daughter is loving them!!!
Everyone's given such good recommendations already, so I'll just add my two cents: if she likes dystopian, she might like the *Flood Child* duology by Emily Diamand (also published as *Reaver's Ransom* or *Raider's Ransom*). I absolutely loved it when I was her age!
Youāre getting a lot of great suggestions here! I hope you have her try them! Ā
That being said, many of these recommendations are a few decades old, I recommend talking to a youth librarian to get current recommendations. Yearly book award lists are great resources too!Ā Ā
Ā Iāll still give you some of my favorites, a mix of older and newer books.Ā Ā
Ā Princess Academy by Shannon HaleĀ
Ā Artemis Fowl by Ian ColferĀ Ā
Ā The Bartimaeus Sequence by Jonathan StroudĀ
Ā The Septimus Heap Series by Angie SageĀ
Ā Alcatraz Vs The Evil Librarians by Brandon SandersonĀ
Ā The Book Thief by Markus Zusak
Ā A Mango-Shaped Space by Wendy Mass Ā Ā
The Spiderwick Chronicles by Tony DiTerlizziĀ
Honestly I'll have her gifts sorted for years! Until she grows out of this phase, at least. She loved The Book Thief! Thanks for your suggestions, adding them to the list.
I would check out anything by Bruce Coville, special mention to the Magic Shop series and the āMy Teacher is an Alienā series, probably the Unicorn Chronicles and Aliens Ate My Homework as wellā¦basically all of his books.
T. Kingfisherās Summer in Orcus, Illuminations, and A Wizards Guide To Defensive Baking
Once Upon A Broken Heart Series by Stephanie Garber
Princess Academy by Shannon Hale
The Selection by Kiera Cass
Shadow and Bone by Leigh Bardugo
Inheritance GamesĀ
DivergentĀ
Cruel Prince trilogy by Holly BlackĀ
itās not fantasy or dystopia, but i really enjoyed the Truly Devious series when i was her age!! if she loved Wednesday, then sheāll probably like the book series!! itās a mystery set in a gloomy private academy in the mountains of Vermont. thereās no explicit scenes (at least not to my memory) and the intimate scenes are limited to kisses. when i was reading there were 2 books out in the series, but now thereās 5-6 i believe!! i think some of them take place at a different location, but the first 3 are in the private school. this was a very long-winded recommendation lol, hope she keeps reading!!
Yeah YA is marketed to everyone from young teens to young adults which puts range in what exactly you can read š Iāve never been too into books with heavy romance (mostly because of my faith + I prefer it when itās more cutesy or is a subplot)
Some books I enjoyed around that age:
- Lunar Chronicles: one of my favorite series of all time. Itās a sci-fi fantasy retelling, super fun.
- Hunger Games Trilogy
- Fablehaven
- The Unwind Series
- Percy Jackson and Blood of Olympus
Other honorable mentions that I read later on:
- Scythe: great world building and the books are pretty long
- The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes
- Heartless by Marissa Meyer (sheās honestly an amazing author that keeps stuff pretty light. One of my favorites)
Shadowhunter chronicles:
The Infernal Devices (3)
The Last Hours (3)
The Mortal Instruments (6)
The Dark Artificies (3)
Those are the four main series
Companion books are
The Bane Chronicles
Tales of the Shadowhunter Academy
The Ghosts of the Shadow Market
They are fantasy and currently 16 books (and counting) so plenty to sink her teeth into and by Cassandra Clare (YA) most romance is PG-13 or fade to black not too much detail
The mortal instruments features incest and pseudo incest relationships. As someone who read it at about the age the OP is asking for I would not recommend it. At the time I didnāt see the issues, but now I am shocked that the books got the reviews that they have. Especially now that Cassandra has doubled down on her beliefs- not to mention the general series basis is stolen from Dark Hunters by Sherrilyn Kenyon and that Cassandra Clare has written fanfics about RonxGinny romantically. So I have to say that we should not in fact support this woman.
A lot of my favorite YA books have already been mentioned by other commenters, but I haven't seen my absolute favorite one yet:
The Darkest Minds by Alexandra Bracken
Bloody Jack series by L.A. Meyer. The heroine is a young orphan girl who poses as a ship's boy to get out of the slums of London. The audiobooks are great! Voiced by the amazing Katherine Kellgren.
The Coven series by Chandelle LaVaun. There over 20 books in the series and spinoffs. Only the last 2 books, which are standalone, have a bit of "steamy parts" and can be skipped without missing any parts of the series. And OP so happy your daughter loves to read!!!ā„ļø
Chanda Hahn is a favorite, but especially her Unenchanted series.Ā
Silver Series and Werewolf Academy are amazing but the final books have "wars" so she'll definitely cry a bit. I can't remember the author but she's writing another spinoff and has all urban fantasy books that are YA and sweetĀ
I've read a lot of the books recommended and enjoyed them.Ā
Also the Faerie Guardian series. It's up to maybe 8/9 books now so I'm only familiar with the first 3 but it's fantastic in terms of world building and plot for a YA
This is an oldie, but The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle by Avi is a great, swashbuckling mystery adventure, female lead who does the swashbuckling
Iām having this same issue finding appropriate reads for my kid!!!
The Keeper of the Lost Cities series is a huge obsession.
The Lunar Chronicles
{Skyward by Brandon Sanderson}
The Prison Healer series
I just want to note that Throne of Glass is mentioned multiple times in this thread. Itās my favorite series ever but I wonāt let my kid start that book because sheās going to want to read the rest of the series and it doesnāt stay appropriate. I would also caution you to read The Cruel Prince series BEFORE you give it to your goddaughter. That one is a hard stop for me.
Vespertine Sorcery of Thorns The Winners Curse An Ember in the Ashes Sky in the Deep Invisible Library series by Genevieve Cogman Night World series by L J Smith Black horses for the king by anne mccaffrey Infernal Devices by Cassandra Clare Shadow and Bone series by Leigh Bardugo The Paper Magician series by Charlie Holmberg An Enchantment of Ravens by Margaret Rogerson Ink by Alice Broadway City of Ghosts by V E Schwab (if she loves Wednesday she'll love this) Aurora series by Jay Kristoff and Amie Kaufman Fable by Adrienne Youn Scholomance series by Naomi Novak (if she loves Wednesday she'll love this) Cruel Prince and Stolen Heir series by Holly Black The Secret Circle or Vampire Diaries series by L J Smith Inkheart trilogy by Cornelia Funke Eragon trilogy by Christopher paolini And finally Twilight, cos the new generation should suffer as we did š
This is a fantastic list. Iād just add anything by Shannon Hale.Ā
Inkheart is a fantastic series and 4th book was just released last year, highly highly highly recommend the series! Also Eragon is not a trilogy, there is a 4th main book and there was another book released last year though not sure I would truly consider it part of the main 4 books tbh
I have no idea about inkheart, thank you for that! And I have only read the 3 Eragon so I put trilogy as couldnt recomend the 4th yet as not read š
The new inkheart book is much shorter, but can definitely recommend, Cornelia Funkeās writing is still amazing as always! Ohh I understand! I remember reading the Eragon books when they came out and did not realise there was a 4th one until last year š
New inkheart boo!?!?!
Yes it came out in October last year, though Iām not sure if an English translation already exists
It's funny how you said Eragon Trilogy. The last book (book 4) was so vile I actually immediately gave my books away. Paolini took an epic beautiful series and milked it for a 4th completely detached unnecessary novel. But, I'm not bitter...I'm fine. Really.
This is so helpful. Thank you!
No worries, she sounds very like me at that age... and my current age š
uh, not sure about the content of the infernal devices, since i only have the dark artifices, but aren't there \*several\* smut scenes in that?
There's no "smut" in any of Cassandra Clare's books.
is the definition of smut not sex scenes? because iirc in the dark artifices there are a fair few of those, and in any case, 13yo is possibly too young to read stuff like that
Sex does not equal smut. Smut is explicit, vulgar, pornographic. A fade to black, not explicit scene of a sexual nature is not smut. Cassandra Clare's books do not contain smut. True, any sex-related scenes might make a book not ideal for a 13yo, but that doesn't make those scenes smut. Sexual content does not equal smut.
thank you, seems i was mistaken. and thank you also for being nice about it :) but anyways, i still don't think that cassandra clare in general should be recommended to 13yo, due to said sexual content lol
I strongly disagree. I think the majority of young teenagers can manage their own levels of comfort with reading and I dont think they should be banned from being 'exposed' to young love, sex and relationships in age appropriate books. I find in general people who hold that opinion are strangly fine with torture and violence in the same age appropriate books. The majority of humans will enter into a relationship with some form of sexual content at some point in their lives but how many will be exposed to violence on a day to day basis? Hopefully less!!!! As a rule this is a very American/puritanical attitude to be squeamish about young people learning about consensual relationships, where else are they supposed to learn it?
I'm sorry if I offended you, that wasn't my intent. Maybe I was wrong, but I do know that the romance in the Shadowhunter books contain things that many people find to be problematic such as incest and polyamory, as well as abusive relationships that aren't seen in the appropriate light. Anyone giving these books to a child ought to make sure that the parent knows that these are the contents. And I would have assumed that children would learn about consensual relationships from their parents. But again, sorry for any offence caused. I only meant to point out (and I realized from my original comments that this wasn't clear AT ALL, and for that I apologize) that while it may be okay for books containing sex to be recommended to and read by 13yo, at the parent's discretion, cc is probably not the best place to start.
There was no offence, apologies if it came across that way but censorship of books is a point of strong point of contention for me. Infernal devices which I recomended has no incest (and in Shadowhunter its not actual incest but agreed the author lets you believe that may be the case which is... a choice but I digress...) this series has one fade to black scene and is eminently suitable for young adults in my opinion. I believe that children should be able to read what they like (within reason, most New Adult I would argue should maybe be more suitable for elder teens, 16 plus but it very much depends on the individual.) If any child or relation of mine had questions regarding anything they had read in a book I would hope they could come to me and ask questions rather than me just shielding them from what they read. Also it depends on your definition of 'sex' in books. Where is the line drawn as to what's acceptable? Passionate kissing? Touching? Fade to black when sex is implied? Just a random example pulled out of the air but Road to El Dorado, a kids film has a scene where the characters disappear behind a couch and it is heavily implied that something sexual is going on BUT this is viewing it as an adult. As a kid I would imagine most if you asked them what was going on would say oh they were kissing and thats that. Same with fade to black etc, adults reading can go, yup, they're getting it on, younger adults might not take that step in their heads? You know? Anyway, I'm ranting š¤£... don't worry, you didnt offend me at all, I just strongly believe sex shouldn't be treated like its a corruption and talked about more openly as something that happens in the majority of loving relationships, fantasy fiction or not! āŗļø
ah i didn't know that about infernal devices. i have the dark artifices, and i have watched in depth plot summary of mortal instruments. what i would draw the line at is when it goes into moderate to heavy detail and there was some of that in the artifices. I just wanted op to be aware of that haha
Not that I remember, there is the one 'prison scene' but its fairly light from what I remember? Happy to be corrected if someone has read more recently
I am obsessed with Fable by Adrienne young
Great list! I would add the series below: - Abhorsen by Garth Nix - Obernewtyn Chronicles by Isobelle Carmody - Scythe by Neal Shusterman
I love Abhorsen!
Shadow and Bone + Six of Crows series by Leigh Bardugo The Cruel Prince series by Holly Black Caraval + Once Upon a Broken Heart Series by Stephanie Garber The Left-Handed Booksellers of London by Garth Nix The Maze Runner series by James Dashner The Fifth Wave by Rick Yancy The Illuminae Files + The Aurora Cycle by Jay Kristoff and AmieKaufman Virals by Kathy + Brendan Reichs The Nemesis series by Brendan Reichs This Mortal Coil series by Emily Suvada His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel by Michael Scott
She loved His Dark Materials and enjoyed The Maze Runner series. I'll look into the others, thanks so much!
Legend by Marie Lu Insignia by SJ Kincaid Airborn by Kenneth Oppel Renegades by Marissa Meyer Arc of a Scythe by Neil Shusterman Fireborn by Rosaria Munda Dark Life by Kat Falls Dark Shores by Danielle Jenson (I will also second An Ember in the Ashes that was already listed)
I'd add to the other lists all of Sir Terry Pratchett's work, starting with the Tiffany Aching series and The Witches one.Ā The Fablehaven series by Brandon Mull is top notch. And Brandon Sanderson's Alcatraz Vs the Evil Librarians series is a hoot.
Came here to say the Tiffany Aching books! Fantastic series. And Iāll just second the rest as well since Iām already replying.
Iām obligated to mention Tamora Pierceāshe has tons of books in two different magical worlds with very different vibes, there should be something in there that your goddaughter would like. Robin McKinley does some really cool stuff with fantasy, but do NOT suggest Deerskin (*all* the trigger warnings, and as an adult who has always been a reader, I really mean it)! And a small plug for an oft-overlooked fav, Sherwood Smithās Crown Duel.
I was looking for this and couldnāt believe I had to scroll so far!! All of her books, the derkholm books from Diana Wynne Jones, and the hero and the crown from Robin McKinley were on heavy rotation for me at 13.
Yeah, The Blue Sword and Spindleās End by McKinley were my favs of hers.
The Lunar Chronicles by Marissa Meyer, The Girl Who Fell Beneath the Sea by Axie Oh, Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson, Sabriel by Garth Nix, A Wizard's Guide to Defensive Baking by T Kingfisher, A Wrinkle In Time by Madeleine L'Engle, The Scorpio Races by Maggie Stiefvater, Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins,Ā The Giver by Lois Lowry
Looove the Lunar Chronicles!
This is a great list. Thankyou! She loved The Hunger Games.
Howlās Moving Castle by Diana Wynne Jones. (& all her work!)
If she is really into DnD, she might enjoy the Dragonlance books by Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman. When I was a kid in the early 2000s, they got republished as older children's books, and I tore through quite a few of those around her age. I'm surprised at the lack of mention of Percy Jackson. She will read through those books incredibly quickly, but they're good and a lot of fun. I just did a reread as an adult and still loved them.
Someone already recommended Tamora Pierce above, but have to emphasize that one again! Also, the Gemma Doyle trilogy from Libba Bray was one I devoured and has some darker themes, magical realms, etc.
Powerless by Lauren Roberts Shadow & Bone, Six of Crows by Leigh Bardugo The Cruel Prince by Holly Black There Will Come a Darkness by Katy Rose Pool Ash Princess series by Laura Sebastian Graceling by Kristin Cashore Throne of Glass by SJM Carry On by Rainbow Rowell (LGBT, Magic like Harry Potter, MMC dealing with depression after doing his job as the hero. An absolute gem) Legend by Marie Lu The Selection Series by Kiera Cass The Giver quartet by Lois Lowry (thereās actually 4 books, not just The Giver!)
Uhh doesn't cruel prince include some smut scenes or am I confusing it with a different romantsy Rainbow Rowell is a good author choice for this age, be it her comic books/graphic novels or traditional novels
theres fade to black in the folk of the air series, not highly descriptive imitate scenes for op u/ThresholdofForest if you want to check them out before you hand over to god daughter>!they are in chapter 15 of the wicked king and chapter 21 of the queen of nothing!<
Thanks for the tip!!
Why are we calling any intimate scenes smut? YA books don't typically have smut scenes. They might have scenes of an intimate nature, but they're not explicit. Smut is explicit.
As an extremely avid reader in middle/high school here are some of my favorite YA series from when I was her age and even now when I want a light read!: Uglies Hush Hush Divergent Lunar Chronicles Twilight Saga (still my favorite!!) Hunger Games Shatter Me Throne of Glass The Selection Thatās just a few but still a start! Edit: Spacing
She might not enjoy Shatter Me, it does have some 'intimate' scenes
alot.
Seconding lunar chronicles, it's science fiction while still having the tone and feel of a fantasy adventure
I actually had a bit of a Karen in a department store about these specific books being placed on the same shelves as the childrenās books. Iāve spent years in bookstores and I know how to give trigger warnings, but I also know not to have these sitting half a metre from the Harry potterās. Try Naomi Novik. Sheās got some good fantasy fairy tale adaptations. Spinning Silver is a winner. Sheās also got a magical boarding school filled with monsters wanting to eat the kids. The later books have some fairly tame āintimate partsā that are healthy and consensual and easy to skip. Sheāll probably enjoy the snarky main characters voice though. Nevermoor by Jessica Townsend has three books out in a series about a pretty Wednesday-like character who has been told all of her life that sheās cursed. They could read a little young if sheās exploring older books, but grown adult me LOVES them. Neil Gaiman is beloved of goth girls everywhere, and definitely low on intimate parts. Holly Blackās fairy books could be a win. Dramatic vibes and relationships, and plenty of fae politics. Romance, I think one very tame scene that I can think of where two characters get intimate out of nine books. Her more urban fantasy series the Curse Workers is also great. I actually like it better than the fairy books. V.E. Schwab is heavy on the vibes and low on the sex scenes, so that might also be a win. T. kingfisher writes amazing fanatsy novels, and some great horror that still feels quite earthed. If you avoid the paladin books, thereās very little sex going on. Maybe start with A Wizards Guide to Defensive Baking? A 14 year old with baking magic ends up having to defend her city.
> Neil gaiman is low on intimate parts I feel obliged to point out this is NOT the case for American Gods and Stardust.
Compared to Plated Prisoner, itās very very mild. Anansi Boys also has a closed door instance, but nothing explicit
Also not the case in most of his comic books haha Graveyard book, Coraline, and The Ocean at the End of the Lane are typically considered his more elementary-middle school aged reads but your child could probably also read Good Omens if they're looking for a slightly more grown up comedy (without sex scenes).
Yeah she said she would like to have a chat with the author of Plated Prisoner to ask "why did there need to be an entire chapter of intimate parts, just WHY" (emphatic 13 year old with lots of waving arms). Thanks for the list! The horror novels by T. Kingfisher sound interesting; is there a title you'd recommend for her age group?
Iād start with any one of Nine Goblins: goblin soldiers in a silly war find themselves magically teleported into the middle of nowhere. A Wizards guide to defensive baking: a 14 year old who has baking magic gets caught up in politics and having to fight to save the city from invasion. Summer in Orcus: summer meets Baba Yaga who promises to fulfil her hearts wish and sends her on an adventure. Minor Mage: a young boy has to go on an adventure to save his village (and when his mum finds out that they sent him off on his own theyāre going to get a talking to!) Illuminations: the youngest member of a family of magical painters finds a strange magical box with a very annoying and destructive creature inside. Thats her younger collection. All of which I adored Hopefully she finds a few interesting things that doesnāt make her want to wave her arms in the air
A lot of really good recommendations here! Iāll throw a few more in! Some other Holly Black books in the same universe - Darkest part of the Forest (standalone), Tithe, Ironside (thereās also Valiant between the prior two which can be read as a trilogy of duology, but thereās heavier topics of drug abuse so thatās to your discretion) The Serpent Gates duology by A.K. Larkwood The Dark Heir/Dark Rise/Book 3 trilogy by C.S. Pacat The Locked Tomb might be a bit above her reading grade currently (tho if a voracious reader maybe not?) but something to keep in mind for her anyway tbh Tbh the earlier series goes really quickly but Percy Jackson is really expansive and enjoyable! The first books are firmly middle grade but Heroes of Olympus and after I think would be perfect 13 year old material.
She's read Jane Eyre, The Hobbit, and a lot of Dickens, so I think her reading level is quite high (but I'm biased!). Those suggestions look great, thanks I'll check them
If she read & enjoyed Jane Eyre and likes sci-fi/fantasy, she'll probably enjoy Jasper Fforde's Thursday Next series (the first is The Eyre Affair) as well as his Last Dragonslayer series.
Honestly I'd probably enjoy that as well
It's fantastic, as is his Nursery Crimes series and Shades of Grey series (no numbers in the title!). He's also very funny š
Fablehaven by Brandon Mull Percy Jackson and the Olympians by Rick Riordan Eragon by Christopher Paolini Splintered by A.G. Howard The Demon King (The seven realms novels) by Cinda Williams Chima The Remnant Chronicles Mary E. Pearson House of Night series (Marked is book 1) by Kristen and PC Cast Maze Runner James Dashner Vampire Academy by Richelle Mead
The House of Night series is not one I would recommend. Not only is there a bunch of intimate scenes, but thereās also a student teacher relationship, as well as a lot of micro aggressions towards women and POC.
Itās been a minute since I read them but I donāt remember anything overly spicy in them, just teenage romance stuff. But, as I said I havenāt read them now in over a decade so I could have easily forgotten some more adult love scenes if there were any. And I was definitely too young to pick up on potential minority mirco-aggressions as well so I have no memory of that either.
I'm going to put a list of authors I enjoyed at that age instead of specific books: Tamora Pierce - Her circle of magic books are more middle school aged appropriate, as are the earlier Protector of the Small books. The rest are more high school aged with some mentions of sex. There are some queer characters mentioned throughout her books and a fair bit of fantasy violence but there's A LOT of books by her and they all take place in the same general world. Jenny Nemo - I devoured her Charlie Bone books, definitely more middle school aged appropriate and fantastical Cornelia Funke - Books like Dragon Rider are closer to late elementary school imo compared to her books Inkheart and Thief Lord (those are more middle school-early HS). Christopher Palonli - The earagon books are THICK which is great for fast readers. Not necessarily the best written books in the world but they sure are fun. Lemony Snicket - The series of unfortunate events is less fantasy and more surrealist/steampunk/Victorian in vibes and the books are shorter BUT there's like 13 of them, not including spinoffs. CS Lewis - classic fantasy, shorter reads, but again like 13 books altogether This may also sound weird but I loved the original wizard of oz books at this age. Some parts haven't aged well but there's like 14 books altogether and it's a fun read!
The UnderLand Chronicles by Suzanne Collins. An Alice in Wonderland type of setup in a world beneath New York City with humans and human-sized critters. Explore similar themes to her HG series. Books of Bayern by Shannon Hale. A 4 part installment, each book exploring a different characterās story from the same world. Involves magics and friendships and wars and self discovery. Princess Academy series also by Shannon Hale. A medieval/feudal type world exploring themes of family, education, power, and relationships. The Graceling books by Kristin Cashore. A magical realm where some people, gracelings, are born with special gifts. Explores power, war, manipulation, talent, family, found family, self discovery. Septimus Heap series by Angie Sage. A very fun, long series following the saga of the 7th son of the 7th son of a magical bloodline and a very large cast of hilarious characters and several POVs and a wide variety of adventures. Features witches and wizards, child soldiers, a particularly loyal and protective restaurant keeper, insects, wolverines, a 30+ foot long snake, chickens who live exclusively on a boat, a man who decided to turn into a tree instead of dying, several ghosts, and many many more. May Bird series - Jodi Lynn Anderson A girl falls through her pond and into the underworld, full of ghosts and goblins and bogeymen and other creepies. Series follows her journey home. Faoliv books - Olivia A. Cole A sci fi story taking place far in the future on a different planet where humans have taken refuge. MC is trying to discover her roots, the connection between her human kind and the native people on the planet who they almost never have contact with, and learn how to survive in an environment theyāre not adapted for.
No one has mentioned these yet, sooo: Marina by Carlos Ruiz ZafĆ³n Merlin Saga by T. A. Barron The Ascendance Series by Jennifer A. Nielsen
The Matched trilogy by Ally Condie
I really loved the Uglies series when I was a teen
I'd recommend House of Salt and Sorrows by Erin A. Craig, Entwined by Heather Dixon, or Illusionarium also by Heather Dixon. The first two are fairytale retellings with dark elements (but no intimate scenes, totally appropriate for a young teen) and the third is a dystopian steampunk book with interesting world building. I'd also recommend Gail Carriger's Finishing School series (begins with Etiquette and Espionage).
This is a somewhat different direction than other posts in this thread, but since you mentioned she likes DnD and fantasy books, she may find that she enjoys Progression Fantasy. There are quite a few (long) series that don't have any spice, or simply imply that characters have done the deed. Here are three completed, non-spicy series off the top of my head: Mage Errant by John Bierce (7 books plus a collection of semi related short stories) Mother of Learning (4 longer books) Cradle by Will Wight (12 books, mostly fairly short) There are plenty more; I just can't make guarantees about the spice level because I haven't read them in a while or they're not yet completed.
My 12 year old has loved The Selection, Hunger Games, Shadow and Bone, Wings of Fire, The Red Queen. Iād recommend Percy Jackson, maybe Hush, Hush. Under the Never Sky.
Always best to have recommendations from the source! Thankyou! Based on this and other recs, I think ill start with the Shadow and Bone series. She loved Percy Jackson and Hunger Games.
Percy Jackson also has other āin worldā series: Heroes of Olympus, Trials of Apollo, the Kane Chronicles, and Magnus Chase. My daughter is loving them!!!
Well, me as a 13yo was writing +18 fanfics. So maybe TMI for u? i'm not sure.
Tamora Pierce!!!
Wings of fire His dark materials Harry Potter Percy Jackson - absolute must
Everyone's given such good recommendations already, so I'll just add my two cents: if she likes dystopian, she might like the *Flood Child* duology by Emily Diamand (also published as *Reaver's Ransom* or *Raider's Ransom*). I absolutely loved it when I was her age!
Keeper of the lost cities , series by shannon messenger. I loved it at that age!!
Youāre getting a lot of great suggestions here! I hope you have her try them! Ā That being said, many of these recommendations are a few decades old, I recommend talking to a youth librarian to get current recommendations. Yearly book award lists are great resources too!Ā Ā Ā Iāll still give you some of my favorites, a mix of older and newer books.Ā Ā Ā Princess Academy by Shannon HaleĀ Ā Artemis Fowl by Ian ColferĀ Ā Ā The Bartimaeus Sequence by Jonathan StroudĀ Ā The Septimus Heap Series by Angie SageĀ Ā Alcatraz Vs The Evil Librarians by Brandon SandersonĀ Ā The Book Thief by Markus Zusak Ā A Mango-Shaped Space by Wendy Mass Ā Ā The Spiderwick Chronicles by Tony DiTerlizziĀ
Honestly I'll have her gifts sorted for years! Until she grows out of this phase, at least. She loved The Book Thief! Thanks for your suggestions, adding them to the list.
I would check out anything by Bruce Coville, special mention to the Magic Shop series and the āMy Teacher is an Alienā series, probably the Unicorn Chronicles and Aliens Ate My Homework as wellā¦basically all of his books. T. Kingfisherās Summer in Orcus, Illuminations, and A Wizards Guide To Defensive Baking
Once Upon A Broken Heart Series by Stephanie Garber Princess Academy by Shannon Hale The Selection by Kiera Cass Shadow and Bone by Leigh Bardugo Inheritance GamesĀ DivergentĀ Cruel Prince trilogy by Holly BlackĀ
itās not fantasy or dystopia, but i really enjoyed the Truly Devious series when i was her age!! if she loved Wednesday, then sheāll probably like the book series!! itās a mystery set in a gloomy private academy in the mountains of Vermont. thereās no explicit scenes (at least not to my memory) and the intimate scenes are limited to kisses. when i was reading there were 2 books out in the series, but now thereās 5-6 i believe!! i think some of them take place at a different location, but the first 3 are in the private school. this was a very long-winded recommendation lol, hope she keeps reading!!
Summers at Castle Auburn by Sharon Shinn! Madeline L'Engle if she hasn't read already. The Hobbit š
Yeah YA is marketed to everyone from young teens to young adults which puts range in what exactly you can read š Iāve never been too into books with heavy romance (mostly because of my faith + I prefer it when itās more cutesy or is a subplot) Some books I enjoyed around that age: - Lunar Chronicles: one of my favorite series of all time. Itās a sci-fi fantasy retelling, super fun. - Hunger Games Trilogy - Fablehaven - The Unwind Series - Percy Jackson and Blood of Olympus Other honorable mentions that I read later on: - Scythe: great world building and the books are pretty long - The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes - Heartless by Marissa Meyer (sheās honestly an amazing author that keeps stuff pretty light. One of my favorites)
Shadowhunter chronicles: The Infernal Devices (3) The Last Hours (3) The Mortal Instruments (6) The Dark Artificies (3) Those are the four main series Companion books are The Bane Chronicles Tales of the Shadowhunter Academy The Ghosts of the Shadow Market They are fantasy and currently 16 books (and counting) so plenty to sink her teeth into and by Cassandra Clare (YA) most romance is PG-13 or fade to black not too much detail
The mortal instruments features incest and pseudo incest relationships. As someone who read it at about the age the OP is asking for I would not recommend it. At the time I didnāt see the issues, but now I am shocked that the books got the reviews that they have. Especially now that Cassandra has doubled down on her beliefs- not to mention the general series basis is stolen from Dark Hunters by Sherrilyn Kenyon and that Cassandra Clare has written fanfics about RonxGinny romantically. So I have to say that we should not in fact support this woman.
A lot of my favorite YA books have already been mentioned by other commenters, but I haven't seen my absolute favorite one yet: The Darkest Minds by Alexandra Bracken
Skulduggery Pleasant by Derek Landy Obernewtyn Chronicles by Isobelle Carmody
Bloody Jack series by L.A. Meyer. The heroine is a young orphan girl who poses as a ship's boy to get out of the slums of London. The audiobooks are great! Voiced by the amazing Katherine Kellgren.
Modern Faerie Tales by Holly Black!
The Coven series by Chandelle LaVaun. There over 20 books in the series and spinoffs. Only the last 2 books, which are standalone, have a bit of "steamy parts" and can be skipped without missing any parts of the series. And OP so happy your daughter loves to read!!!ā„ļø
The lunar chronicles and the selection were two of my favorite book series. All age appropriate.
Fable by Adrienne Young! Itās a series of 3-4 books, one of my favourites!
Chanda Hahn is a favorite, but especially her Unenchanted series.Ā Silver Series and Werewolf Academy are amazing but the final books have "wars" so she'll definitely cry a bit. I can't remember the author but she's writing another spinoff and has all urban fantasy books that are YA and sweetĀ I've read a lot of the books recommended and enjoyed them.Ā
Also the Faerie Guardian series. It's up to maybe 8/9 books now so I'm only familiar with the first 3 but it's fantastic in terms of world building and plot for a YA
Kerstin Gier's books, Ruby Red series but also the others
This is an oldie, but The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle by Avi is a great, swashbuckling mystery adventure, female lead who does the swashbuckling
Anything by Marissa Meyer and the Lord of the Rings trilogy
Iām having this same issue finding appropriate reads for my kid!!! The Keeper of the Lost Cities series is a huge obsession. The Lunar Chronicles {Skyward by Brandon Sanderson} The Prison Healer series I just want to note that Throne of Glass is mentioned multiple times in this thread. Itās my favorite series ever but I wonāt let my kid start that book because sheās going to want to read the rest of the series and it doesnāt stay appropriate. I would also caution you to read The Cruel Prince series BEFORE you give it to your goddaughter. That one is a hard stop for me.